2019 Rules of Golf

[Mr. Bean]

 

So disappointed!! I waited all the time when he would toss the book into the fire ...

[Hawkeye77]

Working our way to minus 6 F by 10 am tomorrow - people want to get all excited about how they are playing by the new rules on Jan. 1 I don't want to read about it.

 

Hawk, are you guys supposed to warm up by the end of the week though. Talking around 50* here Friday.

 

Whoa, this got me to check the forecast - we'll be 45 degrees by Saturday!

[deadsolid...shank]

Working our way to minus 6 F by 10 am tomorrow - people want to get all excited about how they are playing by the new rules on Jan. 1 I don't want to read about it.

 

Hawk, are you guys supposed to warm up by the end of the week though. Talking around 50* here Friday.

 

Whoa, this got me to check the forecast - we'll be 45 degrees by Saturday!

 

New (to me) irons and a 4 wood coming Friday and Wednesday respectively. 50*, and I don’t have a course anymore. Dropped my CC membership when we moved and my yearly pass at the public has expired. Hopefully my old pro will throw me a bone and let me play.

[nsxguy]

 

So disappointed!! I waited all the time when he would toss the book into the fire ...

 

Was that Under2hours reading ?!?!?! :cheesy:

[Mr. Bean]

 

So disappointed!! I waited all the time when he would toss the book into the fire ...

 

Was that Under2hours reading ?!?!?! :cheesy:

 

I don't understand.

[Mr. Bean]

Dropped my CC membership when we moved and my yearly pass at the public has expired. Hopefully my old pro will throw me a bone and let me play.

 

Question from Europe: what is a 'yearly pass at the public'? Isn't a public course public? That is, open to anyone who pays the fee?

[duffer987]

Dropped my CC membership when we moved and my yearly pass at the public has expired. Hopefully my old pro will throw me a bone and let me play.

 

Question from Europe: what is a 'yearly pass at the public'? Isn't a public course public? That is, open to anyone who pays the fee?

You pay a lump sum or maybe a quarterly fee for an "annual pass" for a year/season's worth of golf, in lieu of paying individual green fees for each round at a public course.

Fairly typical example here:

http://www.austintexas.gov/department/fees-memberships

[deadsolid...shank]

Dropped my CC membership when we moved and my yearly pass at the public has expired. Hopefully my old pro will throw me a bone and let me play.

 

Question from Europe: what is a 'yearly pass at the public'? Isn't a public course public? That is, open to anyone who pays the fee?

You pay a lump sum or maybe a quarterly fee for an "annual pass" for a year/season's worth of golf, in lieu of paying individual green fees for each round at a public course.

Fairly typical example here:

http://www.austintexas.gov/department/fees-memberships

 

Yes, exactly. It’s called a membership here, but basically it’s one fee for unlimited golf for the year. Anyone can “join”.

[Mr. Bean]

Dropped my CC membership when we moved and my yearly pass at the public has expired. Hopefully my old pro will throw me a bone and let me play.

 

Question from Europe: what is a 'yearly pass at the public'? Isn't a public course public? That is, open to anyone who pays the fee?

You pay a lump sum or maybe a quarterly fee for an "annual pass" for a year/season's worth of golf, in lieu of paying individual green fees for each round at a public course.

Fairly typical example here:

http://www.austintex...ees-memberships

 

Yes, exactly. It’s called a membership here, but basically it’s one fee for unlimited golf for the year. Anyone can “join”.

 

Understood, but as your pass has expired why don't you just pay the fee for one round?

[nsxguy]

 

So disappointed!! I waited all the time when he would toss the book into the fire ...

 

Was that Under2hours reading ?!?!?! :cheesy:

 

I don't understand.

 

Sorry. Under2hours is (was ?) one of the most vociferous posters who didn't care about playing by the Rules - but figured his handicap was as valid as anybody else's.

 

So the reader tossing the book into the fire,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[deadsolid...shank]

Dropped my CC membership when we moved and my yearly pass at the public has expired. Hopefully my old pro will throw me a bone and let me play.

 

Question from Europe: what is a 'yearly pass at the public'? Isn't a public course public? That is, open to anyone who pays the fee?

You pay a lump sum or maybe a quarterly fee for an "annual pass" for a year/season's worth of golf, in lieu of paying individual green fees for each round at a public course.

Fairly typical example here:

http://www.austintex...ees-memberships

 

Yes, exactly. It’s called a membership here, but basically it’s one fee for unlimited golf for the year. Anyone can “join”.

 

Understood, but as your pass has expired why don't you just pay the fee for one round?

 

Cause I’m cheap. But mainly I don’t want to pay full green fees for a winter condition course. At this one, they don’t have any cups, you putt to a small (the size of the cup) metal disc. If your ball touches the disc it is considered “holed”. I can live with that if it’s not any extra cash out of pocket.

[Halebopp]

Cause I’m cheap��. But mainly I don’t want to pay full green fees for a winter condition course. At this one, they don’t have any cups, you putt to a small (the size of the cup) metal disc. If your ball touches the disc it is considered “holed”. I can live with that if it’s not any extra cash out of pocket.

 

And someone's charging full fee for that? :D

[deadsolid...shank]

Cause I’m cheap��. But mainly I don’t want to pay full green fees for a winter condition course. At this one, they don’t have any cups, you putt to a small (the size of the cup) metal disc. If your ball touches the disc it is considered “holed”. I can live with that if it’s not any extra cash out of pocket.

 

And someone's charging full fee for that? :D

 

Yes. The same way many courses charge full rate after aeration

[Sawgrass]

Okay, it's essential that I get this off my chest. I've spent countless hours learning and teaching the 2019 Rules. I was smugly comfortable with them. Then, today, New Year's day, Connecticut was unseasonably warm and I ventured out to play. Here's what happened the first time I used the 2019 rules in the real world:

 

The first time I took a drop I dumbly dropped from shoulder height. Bozo! I think I might have illegally played that ball if it wasn't for the fact that it ended up still impeded by the immovable obstruction from which I was taking relief, and when I had to drop again I remembered what the hell I was supposed to do. (Curtsey while I drop my ball.) If that wasn't dopey enough, every single time I took a drop after that, and there were several, (I would have scored better if the water on my course had been frozen!) I almost dropped from shoulder height until I caught myself at the last moment and dropped from my knee. Man, I've got to develop some new reflexes to go along with the new dogma!

 

The other terrorizing feature of my round is that my three friends and I were hopeless when we got to the green. We did save some time by naturally allowing a player on the green further from the hole to putt with the flagstick in, rather than have him wait for his buddy who was closer but off the green to play first (as has been our longtime custom to speed play outside of match play). But once we were all on the green I felt we spent way too much time figuring out what our friends wanted to do with the stick. And we sounded like a bunch of dopes,

 

"You want it in or out?"

 

"I don't care!"

 

"Okay, how about you?"

 

"Maybe instead of asking what someone wants we should wait for someone to tell us to pull or attend it."

 

Anyway, it surely won't take too long for us to work out something where we politely accommodate our friend's wishes and still move quickly, but it's not nearly as natural as my mind's eye told me it would be.

 

Welcome to 2019!

[ruca]

Okay, it's essential that I get this off my chest. I've spent countless hours learning and teaching the 2019 Rules. I was smugly comfortable with them. Then, today, New Year's day, Connecticut was unseasonably warm and I ventured out to play. Here's what happened the first time I used the 2019 rules in the real world:

 

The first time I took a drop I dumbly dropped from shoulder height. Bozo! I think I might have illegally played that ball if it wasn't for the fact that it ended up still impeded by the immovable obstruction from which I was taking relief, and when I had to drop again I remembered what the hell I was supposed to do. (Curtsey while I drop my ball.) If that wasn't dopey enough, every single time I took a drop after that, and there were several, (I would have scored better if the water on my course had been frozen!) I almost dropped from shoulder height until I caught myself at the last moment and dropped from my knee. Man, I've got to develop some new reflexes to go along with the new dogma!

 

The other terrorizing feature of my round is that my three friends and I were hopeless when we got to the green. We did save some time by naturally allowing a player on the green further from the hole to putt with the flagstick in, rather than have him wait for his buddy who was closer but off the green to play first (as has been our longtime custom to speed play outside of match play). But once we were all on the green I felt we spent way too much time figuring out what our friends wanted to do with the stick. And we sounded like a bunch of dopes,

 

"You want it in or out?"

 

"I don't care!"

 

"Okay, how about you?"

 

"Maybe instead of asking what someone wants we should wait for someone to tell us to pull or attend it."

 

Anyway, it surely won't take too long for us to work out something where we politely accommodate our friend's wishes and still move quickly, but it's not nearly as natural as my mind's eye told me it would be.

 

Welcome to 2019!

 

On the same note, it seems inevitable that when the first comp comes, players are going to be inadvertently breaking lots of rules.

What you gonna do, penalise lots (and be that guy), or turn around and not watch drops etc (unless asked), at least for a while.

 

Okay, it's essential that I get this off my chest. I've spent countless hours learning and teaching the 2019 Rules. I was smugly comfortable with them. Then, today, New Year's day, Connecticut was unseasonably warm and I ventured out to play. Here's what happened the first time I used the 2019 rules in the real world:

 

The first time I took a drop I dumbly dropped from shoulder height. Bozo! I think I might have illegally played that ball if it wasn't for the fact that it ended up still impeded by the immovable obstruction from which I was taking relief, and when I had to drop again I remembered what the hell I was supposed to do. (Curtsey while I drop my ball.) If that wasn't dopey enough, every single time I took a drop after that, and there were several, (I would have scored better if the water on my course had been frozen!) I almost dropped from shoulder height until I caught myself at the last moment and dropped from my knee. Man, I've got to develop some new reflexes to go along with the new dogma!

 

The other terrorizing feature of my round is that my three friends and I were hopeless when we got to the green. We did save some time by naturally allowing a player on the green further from the hole to putt with the flagstick in, rather than have him wait for his buddy who was closer but off the green to play first (as has been our longtime custom to speed play outside of match play). But once we were all on the green I felt we spent way too much time figuring out what our friends wanted to do with the stick. And we sounded like a bunch of dopes,

 

"You want it in or out?"

 

"I don't care!"

 

"Okay, how about you?"

 

"Maybe instead of asking what someone wants we should wait for someone to tell us to pull or attend it."

 

Anyway, it surely won't take too long for us to work out something where we politely accommodate our friend's wishes and still move quickly, but it's not nearly as natural as my mind's eye told me it would be.

 

Welcome to 2019!

 

On the same note, it seems inevitable that when the first comp comes, players are going to be inadvertently breaking lots of rules.

What you gonna do, penalise lots (and be that guy), or turn around and not watch drops etc (unless asked), at least for a while.

 

Okay, it's essential that I get this off my chest. I've spent countless hours learning and teaching the 2019 Rules. I was smugly comfortable with them. Then, today, New Year's day, Connecticut was unseasonably warm and I ventured out to play. Here's what happened the first time I used the 2019 rules in the real world:

 

The first time I took a drop I dumbly dropped from shoulder height. Bozo! I think I might have illegally played that ball if it wasn't for the fact that it ended up still impeded by the immovable obstruction from which I was taking relief, and when I had to drop again I remembered what the hell I was supposed to do. (Curtsey while I drop my ball.) If that wasn't dopey enough, every single time I took a drop after that, and there were several, (I would have scored better if the water on my course had been frozen!) I almost dropped from shoulder height until I caught myself at the last moment and dropped from my knee. Man, I've got to develop some new reflexes to go along with the new dogma!

 

The other terrorizing feature of my round is that my three friends and I were hopeless when we got to the green. We did save some time by naturally allowing a player on the green further from the hole to putt with the flagstick in, rather than have him wait for his buddy who was closer but off the green to play first (as has been our longtime custom to speed play outside of match play). But once we were all on the green I felt we spent way too much time figuring out what our friends wanted to do with the stick. And we sounded like a bunch of dopes,

 

"You want it in or out?"

 

"I don't care!"

 

"Okay, how about you?"

 

"Maybe instead of asking what someone wants we should wait for someone to tell us to pull or attend it."

 

Anyway, it surely won't take too long for us to work out something where we politely accommodate our friend's wishes and still move quickly, but it's not nearly as natural as my mind's eye told me it would be.

 

Welcome to 2019!

 

On the same note, it seems inevitable that when the first comp comes, players are going to be inadvertently breaking lots of rules.

What you gonna do, penalise lots (and be that guy), or turn around and not watch drops etc (unless asked), at least for a while.

[antip]

Think of it as a once in a lifetime opportunity to get REALLY familiar with Rule 14.5: Correcting mistake made in substituting, replacing, dropping and placing ball.

[Colin L]

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Think of it as a once in a lifetime opportunity to get REALLY familiar with Rule 14.5: Correcting mistake made in substituting, replacing, dropping and placing ball.

 

You must be Dr Pangloss, I presume.

[fairways4life]

Okay, it's essential that I get this off my chest. I've spent countless hours learning and teaching the 2019 Rules. I was smugly comfortable with them. Then, today, New Year's day, Connecticut was unseasonably warm and I ventured out to play. Here's what happened the first time I used the 2019 rules in the real world:

 

The first time I took a drop I dumbly dropped from shoulder height. Bozo! I think I might have illegally played that ball if it wasn't for the fact that it ended up still impeded by the immovable obstruction from which I was taking relief, and when I had to drop again I remembered what the hell I was supposed to do. (Curtsey while I drop my ball.) If that wasn't dopey enough, every single time I took a drop after that, and there were several, (I would have scored better if the water on my course had been frozen!) I almost dropped from shoulder height until I caught myself at the last moment and dropped from my knee. Man, I've got to develop some new reflexes to go along with the new dogma!

 

The other terrorizing feature of my round is that my three friends and I were hopeless when we got to the green. We did save some time by naturally allowing a player on the green further from the hole to putt with the flagstick in, rather than have him wait for his buddy who was closer but off the green to play first (as has been our longtime custom to speed play outside of match play). But once we were all on the green I felt we spent way too much time figuring out what our friends wanted to do with the stick. And we sounded like a bunch of dopes,

 

"You want it in or out?"

 

"I don't care!"

 

"Okay, how about you?"

 

"Maybe instead of asking what someone wants we should wait for someone to tell us to pull or attend it."

 

Anyway, it surely won't take too long for us to work out something where we politely accommodate our friend's wishes and still move quickly, but it's not nearly as natural as my mind's eye told me it would be.

 

Welcome to 2019!

 

On the same note, it seems inevitable that when the first comp comes, players are going to be inadvertently breaking lots of rules.

What you gonna do, penalise lots (and be that guy), or turn around and not watch drops etc (unless asked), at least for a while.

 

Okay, it's essential that I get this off my chest. I've spent countless hours learning and teaching the 2019 Rules. I was smugly comfortable with them. Then, today, New Year's day, Connecticut was unseasonably warm and I ventured out to play. Here's what happened the first time I used the 2019 rules in the real world:

 

The first time I took a drop I dumbly dropped from shoulder height. Bozo! I think I might have illegally played that ball if it wasn't for the fact that it ended up still impeded by the immovable obstruction from which I was taking relief, and when I had to drop again I remembered what the hell I was supposed to do. (Curtsey while I drop my ball.) If that wasn't dopey enough, every single time I took a drop after that, and there were several, (I would have scored better if the water on my course had been frozen!) I almost dropped from shoulder height until I caught myself at the last moment and dropped from my knee. Man, I've got to develop some new reflexes to go along with the new dogma!

 

The other terrorizing feature of my round is that my three friends and I were hopeless when we got to the green. We did save some time by naturally allowing a player on the green further from the hole to putt with the flagstick in, rather than have him wait for his buddy who was closer but off the green to play first (as has been our longtime custom to speed play outside of match play). But once we were all on the green I felt we spent way too much time figuring out what our friends wanted to do with the stick. And we sounded like a bunch of dopes,

 

"You want it in or out?"

 

"I don't care!"

 

"Okay, how about you?"

 

"Maybe instead of asking what someone wants we should wait for someone to tell us to pull or attend it."

 

Anyway, it surely won't take too long for us to work out something where we politely accommodate our friend's wishes and still move quickly, but it's not nearly as natural as my mind's eye told me it would be.

 

Welcome to 2019!

 

On the same note, it seems inevitable that when the first comp comes, players are going to be inadvertently breaking lots of rules.

What you gonna do, penalise lots (and be that guy), or turn around and not watch drops etc (unless asked), at least for a while.

 

Okay, it's essential that I get this off my chest. I've spent countless hours learning and teaching the 2019 Rules. I was smugly comfortable with them. Then, today, New Year's day, Connecticut was unseasonably warm and I ventured out to play. Here's what happened the first time I used the 2019 rules in the real world:

 

The first time I took a drop I dumbly dropped from shoulder height. Bozo! I think I might have illegally played that ball if it wasn't for the fact that it ended up still impeded by the immovable obstruction from which I was taking relief, and when I had to drop again I remembered what the hell I was supposed to do. (Curtsey while I drop my ball.) If that wasn't dopey enough, every single time I took a drop after that, and there were several, (I would have scored better if the water on my course had been frozen!) I almost dropped from shoulder height until I caught myself at the last moment and dropped from my knee. Man, I've got to develop some new reflexes to go along with the new dogma!

 

The other terrorizing feature of my round is that my three friends and I were hopeless when we got to the green. We did save some time by naturally allowing a player on the green further from the hole to putt with the flagstick in, rather than have him wait for his buddy who was closer but off the green to play first (as has been our longtime custom to speed play outside of match play). But once we were all on the green I felt we spent way too much time figuring out what our friends wanted to do with the stick. And we sounded like a bunch of dopes,

 

"You want it in or out?"

 

"I don't care!"

 

"Okay, how about you?"

 

"Maybe instead of asking what someone wants we should wait for someone to tell us to pull or attend it."

 

Anyway, it surely won't take too long for us to work out something where we politely accommodate our friend's wishes and still move quickly, but it's not nearly as natural as my mind's eye told me it would be.

 

Welcome to 2019!

 

On the same note, it seems inevitable that when the first comp comes, players are going to be inadvertently breaking lots of rules.

What you gonna do, penalise lots (and be that guy), or turn around and not watch drops etc (unless asked), at least for a while.

 

I'm playing in a Golfweek Am Tour event in a few weeks. I've played in about a dozen of them before and have been pretty shocked at the lack of understanding around very basic rules --- guys trying to hit "provisionals" for balls they think went in a water hazard. Not knowing you could take back on the line relief for an unplayable ball. Not knowing the opposite side of the hazard option for red stakes even existed. And these are all single digit handicappers in my flight.

 

Many didn't know the old rules, so introducing a set of changes to those rules should make things interesting.

[nsxguy]

Okay, it's essential that I get this off my chest. I've spent countless hours learning and teaching the 2019 Rules. I was smugly comfortable with them. Then, today, New Year's day, Connecticut was unseasonably warm and I ventured out to play. Here's what happened the first time I used the 2019 rules in the real world:

 

The first time I took a drop I dumbly dropped from shoulder height. Bozo! I think I might have illegally played that ball if it wasn't for the fact that it ended up still impeded by the immovable obstruction from which I was taking relief, and when I had to drop again I remembered what the hell I was supposed to do. (Curtsey while I drop my ball.) If that wasn't dopey enough, every single time I took a drop after that, and there were several, (I would have scored better if the water on my course had been frozen!) I almost dropped from shoulder height until I caught myself at the last moment and dropped from my knee. Man, I've got to develop some new reflexes to go along with the new dogma!

 

The other terrorizing feature of my round is that my three friends and I were hopeless when we got to the green. We did save some time by naturally allowing a player on the green further from the hole to putt with the flagstick in, rather than have him wait for his buddy who was closer but off the green to play first (as has been our longtime custom to speed play outside of match play). But once we were all on the green I felt we spent way too much time figuring out what our friends wanted to do with the stick. And we sounded like a bunch of dopes,

 

"You want it in or out?"

 

"I don't care!"

 

"Okay, how about you?"

 

"Maybe instead of asking what someone wants we should wait for someone to tell us to pull or attend it."

 

Anyway, it surely won't take too long for us to work out something where we politely accommodate our friend's wishes and still move quickly, but it's not nearly as natural as my mind's eye told me it would be.

 

Welcome to 2019!

 

On the same note, it seems inevitable that when the first comp comes, players are going to be inadvertently breaking lots of rules.

What you gonna do, penalise lots (and be that guy), or turn around and not watch drops etc (unless asked), at least for a while.

 

Okay, it's essential that I get this off my chest. I've spent countless hours learning and teaching the 2019 Rules. I was smugly comfortable with them. Then, today, New Year's day, Connecticut was unseasonably warm and I ventured out to play. Here's what happened the first time I used the 2019 rules in the real world:

 

The first time I took a drop I dumbly dropped from shoulder height. Bozo! I think I might have illegally played that ball if it wasn't for the fact that it ended up still impeded by the immovable obstruction from which I was taking relief, and when I had to drop again I remembered what the hell I was supposed to do. (Curtsey while I drop my ball.) If that wasn't dopey enough, every single time I took a drop after that, and there were several, (I would have scored better if the water on my course had been frozen!) I almost dropped from shoulder height until I caught myself at the last moment and dropped from my knee. Man, I've got to develop some new reflexes to go along with the new dogma!

 

The other terrorizing feature of my round is that my three friends and I were hopeless when we got to the green. We did save some time by naturally allowing a player on the green further from the hole to putt with the flagstick in, rather than have him wait for his buddy who was closer but off the green to play first (as has been our longtime custom to speed play outside of match play). But once we were all on the green I felt we spent way too much time figuring out what our friends wanted to do with the stick. And we sounded like a bunch of dopes,

 

"You want it in or out?"

 

"I don't care!"

 

"Okay, how about you?"

 

"Maybe instead of asking what someone wants we should wait for someone to tell us to pull or attend it."

 

Anyway, it surely won't take too long for us to work out something where we politely accommodate our friend's wishes and still move quickly, but it's not nearly as natural as my mind's eye told me it would be.

 

Welcome to 2019!

 

On the same note, it seems inevitable that when the first comp comes, players are going to be inadvertently breaking lots of rules.

What you gonna do, penalise lots (and be that guy), or turn around and not watch drops etc (unless asked), at least for a while.

 

Okay, it's essential that I get this off my chest. I've spent countless hours learning and teaching the 2019 Rules. I was smugly comfortable with them. Then, today, New Year's day, Connecticut was unseasonably warm and I ventured out to play. Here's what happened the first time I used the 2019 rules in the real world:

 

The first time I took a drop I dumbly dropped from shoulder height. Bozo! I think I might have illegally played that ball if it wasn't for the fact that it ended up still impeded by the immovable obstruction from which I was taking relief, and when I had to drop again I remembered what the hell I was supposed to do. (Curtsey while I drop my ball.) If that wasn't dopey enough, every single time I took a drop after that, and there were several, (I would have scored better if the water on my course had been frozen!) I almost dropped from shoulder height until I caught myself at the last moment and dropped from my knee. Man, I've got to develop some new reflexes to go along with the new dogma!

 

The other terrorizing feature of my round is that my three friends and I were hopeless when we got to the green. We did save some time by naturally allowing a player on the green further from the hole to putt with the flagstick in, rather than have him wait for his buddy who was closer but off the green to play first (as has been our longtime custom to speed play outside of match play). But once we were all on the green I felt we spent way too much time figuring out what our friends wanted to do with the stick. And we sounded like a bunch of dopes,

 

"You want it in or out?"

 

"I don't care!"

 

"Okay, how about you?"

 

"Maybe instead of asking what someone wants we should wait for someone to tell us to pull or attend it."

 

Anyway, it surely won't take too long for us to work out something where we politely accommodate our friend's wishes and still move quickly, but it's not nearly as natural as my mind's eye told me it would be.

 

Welcome to 2019!

 

On the same note, it seems inevitable that when the first comp comes, players are going to be inadvertently breaking lots of rules.

What you gonna do, penalise lots (and be that guy), or turn around and not watch drops etc (unless asked), at least for a while.

 

I'm playing in a Golfweek Am Tour event in a few weeks. I've played in about a dozen of them before and have been pretty shocked at the lack of understanding around very basic rules --- guys trying to hit "provisionals" for balls they think went in a water hazard. Not knowing you could take back on the line relief for an unplayable ball. Not knowing the opposite side of the hazard option for red stakes even existed. And these are all single digit handicappers in my flight.

 

Many didn't know the old rules, so introducing a set of changes to those rules should make things interesting.

 

Here in the States the game is clearly not taken with the reverence as in the UK or even other places in the "Old World". And that. of course, includes knowing the Rules.

 

I played in the World Amateur in Myrtle Beach some 20 years ago and in 1 round, on the 9th hole, a par 5, my fellow competitor hit one over a yellow WH. The ball hit outside the yellow line and came back in and he wanted to hit from the green side (does all this sound familiar ? LOL).

 

I told him he couldn't and another FC in the group said he could. It actually got a little heated and I told the guy "Look, play 2 balls, one from each spot and before you play a ball tell the group which one you want to count IF it is permitted by rule and we'll check on it later".

 

Of course he declared he wanted the ball up by the green to count. He proceeded to make bogey with that one and triple with the one going back over the hazard.

 

Since we were at the turn they went into the clubhouse to find the Pro. He wasn't there but they asked the guy who WAS there to ask the Pro to come out to us asap. He found us on the next fairway, listened to the circumstances and delivered the guy the bad news.

 

And this is one of the easier rules to understand.

[davep043]

Here in the States the game is clearly not taken with the reverence as in the UK or even other places in the "Old World". And that. of course, includes knowing the Rules.

 

I played in the World Amateur in Myrtle Beach some 20 years ago and in 1 round, on the 9th hole, a par 5, my fellow competitor hit one over a yellow WH. The ball hit outside the yellow line and came back in and he wanted to hit from the green side (does all this sound familiar ? LOL).

 

I told him he couldn't and another FC in the group said he could. It actually got a little heated and I told the guy "Look, play 2 balls, one from each spot and before you play a ball tell the group which one you want to count IF it is permitted by rule and we'll check on it later".

 

Of course he declared he wanted the ball up by the green to count. He proceeded to make bogey with that one and triple with the one going back over the hazard.

 

Since we were at the turn they went into the clubhouse to find the Pro. He wasn't there but they asked the guy who WAS there to ask the Pro to come out to us asap. He found us on the next fairway, listened to the circumstances and delivered the guy the bad news.

 

And this is one of the easier rules to understand.

Easy solution to this one is to have the rule book with you, and show the guy that he's required to keep the entry point between himself and the hole. As we've read in the "Yellow PA" thread, it may not be quite so clear now, but having quick access to the rules can clear up a lot of questions pretty quickly.

[Mr. Bean]

Don't you guys ever check what you are quoting before posting..?

 

I mean, quoting text quoted three times :swoon:

 

That is just TOO much...

[Sawgrass]

Don't you guys ever check what you are quoting before posting..?

 

I mean, quoting text quoted three times :swoon:

 

That is just TOO much...

It's especially hurtful when the multiple quotes are of me making fun of myself!

[Sawgrass]

Here's a peculiarity with the new rules. Last week, if my ball had wrong green interference, I would always get a (mandatory) free drop. Today, if no Local Rule is in force, I may be in a situation where I don't get a free drop from wrong green interference. Any takers on how this might happen?

[jlbos83]

Oh, my. After reading Sawgrass' missive, I fear that I dropped from shoulder height when I took relief from a cart path. That habit is going to be hard to break! I played on New Year's Eve and paid my last penalty for double strike!

[SNIPERBBB]

My rule going forward with the flag stick, I'm not asking and unless the player whose turn it is to play says something...I am not touching the flag nor asking.

[Colin L]

My rule going forward with the flag stick, I'm not asking and unless the player whose turn it is to play says something...I am not touching the flag nor asking.

 

Good to see the spirit of cooperation lives on. :)

[Mr. Bean]

Here's a peculiarity with the new rules. Last week, if my ball had wrong green interference, I would always get a (mandatory) free drop. Today, if no Local Rule is in force, I may be in a situation where I don't get a free drop from wrong green interference. Any takers on how this might happen?

 

Well, America is the Land of Promises and Fortune, so I guess that is something that could only happen there.

 

Did I win??

[Colin L]

Here's a peculiarity with the new rules. Last week, if my ball had wrong green interference, I would always get a (mandatory) free drop. Today, if no Local Rule is in force, I may be in a situation where I don't get a free drop from wrong green interference. Any takers on how this might happen?

 

Well, America is the Land of Promises and Fortune, so I guess that is something that could only happen there.

 

Did I win??

 

Last week you would never have had free relief from the situation that now requires a Local Rule to create.

[Mr. Bean]

Here's a peculiarity with the new rules. Last week, if my ball had wrong green interference, I would always get a (mandatory) free drop. Today, if no Local Rule is in force, I may be in a situation where I don't get a free drop from wrong green interference. Any takers on how this might happen?

 

Well, America is the Land of Promises and Fortune, so I guess that is something that could only happen there.

 

Did I win??

 

Last week you would never have had free relief from the situation that now requires a Local Rule to create.

 

I give up.

 

What is it?

[Matt J]

That was the complaint many of us made all along, Sawgrass. Perhaps it depends on whom you play with, for instance my usual partners I cannot imagine many will convert to using the pin other than to speed up play for long putts, not having to have anyone attend. But, DeChambeau has already made mention on the PGA Tour that he is looking for a strategic advantage of using the pin in for certain types of putts. That won't be a problem in a professional tournament where everybody has a caddie and pace is already abysmal. The issue I have is that I try and be polite and do my part when playing competitively without a caddie or with strangers. I always offer to tend for the guy with the long putt. Typically, everyone else in the foursome will say, "I can see it" you tend for the guy who's a long way from the hole and then throw the flagstick over to the side of the green. Under the new rules, I will basically convert to the theory that everyone is their own caddie, now I don't mind if no one tends for me for a long putt, fine, the pin gets left in... but then what?

 

An old school guy goes over grabs it and tosses it into the fringe, then DeChambeau of the men's club says, you know, this think looks a little slippery (after he goes through his whole routine and walks around the hole) and asks for it back in. Is Player B who was nice enough to pull it obligated to go get it and put it back in? I say not. If DeChambeau wants it in, go get it, and put it back in. Pace slower. What if every other guy prefers it in or out, it's a constant thing to take it out and put it back in.

 

Those of us that want to play like we've always played have a choice to slow down pace or just jar our short putts after DeShampoo with the pin in. I don't even putt on the practice green with the pin in. I think it encourages too much pace and long comebacks, so now I have to choose between being a premadonna and having pulling it and handing it off to someone who's already in or just slamming it at the flagstick. Once again, we fixed something that wasn't a problem.