Sergio disqualified from the Saudi tournament on the European tour

[Titleist 670]

I really thought he changed since having a wife and a kid...

 

OR by being a Masters champ.... Imagine sitting next to Sergio at the champions dinner knowing he acted like this.

 

Why would anyone think that winning the Masters completely changes you as a person?

[new2g0lf]

Wow, here is the European Tour position.

 

Garcia later issued an apology, and European Tour chief Keith Pelley considered the matter closed with the organization issuing no further discipline.

 

Shocked the tour will not sanction or suspend him - spineless is not a good look.

 

Guess all the Tour's are afraid to discipline their contractors unless they smoke pot or use deer antler spray.

[Guia]

He is still an immature brat.

[Hawkeye77]

DQ isn’t an inconsequential penalty. Scrape and some scuff marks, he apologized to the other players. The level of “outrage” is a little surprising. Even the actual scrape was an easy fix, the rest apparently a temporary annoyance. Not at all surprised he wasn’t suspended, and I’m sure people that had the actual facts and saw the actual damage were involved in the decision. The people actually affected have had no trouble putting it behind them.

[ebrasmus21]

DQ isn't an inconsequential penalty. Scrape and some scuff marks, he apologized to the other players. The level of "outrage" is a little surprising. Even the actual scrape was an easy fix, the rest apparently a temporary annoyance. Not at all surprised he wasn't suspended, and I'm sure people that had the actual facts and saw the actual damage were involved in the decision. The people actually affected have had no trouble putting it behind them.

 

But outrage is fashionable...

[MMB1500]

DQ isn't an inconsequential penalty. Scrape and some scuff marks, he apologized to the other players. The level of "outrage" is a little surprising. Even the actual scrape was an easy fix, the rest apparently a temporary annoyance. Not at all surprised he wasn't suspended, and I'm sure people that had the actual facts and saw the actual damage were involved in the decision. The people actually affected have had no trouble putting it behind them.

 

Normally I would agree with you given modern society's outrage culture, however in this instance Garcia merits all the criticism he's getting. It doesn't matter what the damage was like, the fact he inflicted it deliberately is enough - not to mention the fact he did this 5 times. The fact it was supposedly an "easy fix" is completely and utterly irrelevant.

 

He acted like a fu*king tw@t and what he did is, in a golfing context, indefensible.

 

Brooks Koepka also agrees:

 

“Ugh, it’s frustrating as a player to see, to act like that, to disrespect everybody. To act like a child out there is not cool. It’s not setting a good example and it’s not cool to us, showing us no respect or anybody else.

 

That’s just Sergio acting like a child. It’s unfortunate that he’s got to do that and complain. Everybody’s got to play the same golf course. I didn’t play very good, but you didn’t really see anybody else doing that. You’re 40 years old so you gotta grow up eventually.”

[MMB1500]

DQ isn't an inconsequential penalty. Scrape and some scuff marks, he apologized to the other players. The level of "outrage" is a little surprising. Even the actual scrape was an easy fix, the rest apparently a temporary annoyance. Not at all surprised he wasn't suspended, and I'm sure people that had the actual facts and saw the actual damage were involved in the decision. The people actually affected have had no trouble putting it behind them.

 

But outrage is fashionable...

 

Fashionable yes, but sometimes also warranted, such as in this instance.

[ebrasmus21]

DQ isn't an inconsequential penalty. Scrape and some scuff marks, he apologized to the other players. The level of "outrage" is a little surprising. Even the actual scrape was an easy fix, the rest apparently a temporary annoyance. Not at all surprised he wasn't suspended, and I'm sure people that had the actual facts and saw the actual damage were involved in the decision. The people actually affected have had no trouble putting it behind them.

 

But outrage is fashionable...

 

Fashionable yes, but sometimes also warranted, such as in this instance.

 

Well for a professional of the standard and clout that Sergio enjoys it does seem rather bush league that he'd do what he did. That being said it seems the tournament officials and the ETour handled it the way they wanted to (which we, the internets, may or may not agree with).

[HitEmTrue]

But they penalized Li Hatong for a controversial breach. Interesting

 

Sergio was DQ. Biggest penalty on the books.

 

[Mr. Grumpy]

Brooks,,, lol

 

It's not like Sergio is the only one to act like this. Brooks might as well say that half the field in my sport needs to grow up... And then double apologize when he he himself acts like a child...

 

Meltdowns happen,, it's a human thing..

[augustgolf]

Which is worse?

 

 

 

Or

 

 

 

What's behind door #3, Bob?

 

Thought it was kinda funny, someone asking what that was in picture #1 - seen too many in my life, my friend

[Dpavs]

I actually had to laugh when I read this part;

 

"The feeling among our officials is that Garcia did enough damage to his reputation with this latest episode and the harm done to his image is punishment enough."

 

To my thinking, I'm not sure there was much damage to his "reputation" at all. Reinforcement perhaps, but damage... nah.

[chigolfer1]

DQ isn't an inconsequential penalty. Scrape and some scuff marks, he apologized to the other players. The level of "outrage" is a little surprising. Even the actual scrape was an easy fix, the rest apparently a temporary annoyance. Not at all surprised he wasn't suspended, and I'm sure people that had the actual facts and saw the actual damage were involved in the decision. The people actually affected have had no trouble putting it behind them.

 

Normally I would agree with you given modern society's outrage culture, however in this instance Garcia merits all the criticism he's getting. It doesn't matter what the damage was like, the fact he inflicted it deliberately is enough - not to mention the fact he did this 5 times. The fact it was supposedly an "easy fix" is completely and utterly irrelevant.

 

He acted like a fu*king tw@t and what he did is, in a golfing context, indefensible.

 

Brooks Koepka also agrees:

 

“Ugh, it’s frustrating as a player to see, to act like that, to disrespect everybody. To act like a child out there is not cool. It’s not setting a good example and it’s not cool to us, showing us no respect or anybody else.

 

That’s just Sergio acting like a child. It’s unfortunate that he’s got to do that and complain. Everybody’s got to play the same golf course. I didn’t play very good, but you didn’t really see anybody else doing that. You’re 40 years old so you gotta grow up eventually.”

 

 

Wow, did he really say this? I mean you don't often hear a PGA player call out another player this strongly. And, you're exactly right, damaging four(!) greens intentionally is damaging multiple greens intentionally. It doesn't matter if you could easily repair it. And, realistically, you aren't going to damage a green so blatantly that it's obvious and beyond repair. If he went that far, you'd be talking suspending him half a season IMO.

 

Honest question, has anyone ever heard of this happening before at this level in recent memory? For those more on the inside, is this something that's done now and then or is this pretty unprecedented?

[BNGL]

Which is worse?

 

 

 

Or

 

 

 

What's behind door #3, Bob?

 

Thought it was kinda funny, someone asking what that was in picture #1 - seen too many in my life, my friend

 

Pic one was renowned tour player “good guy” DL3 at Bay Hill on 17 in the third round? He hit a poor shot and slammed his club into a sprinkler head.

[ebrasmus21]

Which is worse?

 

 

 

Or

 

 

 

What's behind door #3, Bob?

 

Thought it was kinda funny, someone asking what that was in picture #1 - seen too many in my life, my friend

 

Pic one was renowned tour player “good guy” DL3 at Bay Hill on 17 in the third round? He hit a poor shot and slammed his club into a sprinkler head.

 

Didn't the hosting course send DL3 the bill for damages? Thought I remember reading about that somewhere a long time ago.

[shotmark]

Good! If it was the weak US tour he would had got away with it. Unruly behaviour is not accepted or the norm on the ET unlike the US tour.

 

Yes 'cos we penalise slow play all the time.

[csiachos]

Brooks,,, lol

 

It's not like Sergio is the only one to act like this. Brooks might as well say that half the field in my sport needs to grow up... And then double apologize when he he himself acts like a child...

 

Meltdowns happen,, it's a human thing..

Meltdowns happen, but to damage 5 greens is a different issue. Disqualification is not enough in my book. He was going to miss the cut anyway, so is basically the same thing. There needs to be a fine to prevent this from happening.

[shotmark]

I think he just did a Phil. Greens were awful, making a point, went about it totally the wrong way.

[BNGL]

Which is worse?

 

 

 

Or

 

 

 

What's behind door #3, Bob?

 

Thought it was kinda funny, someone asking what that was in picture #1 - seen too many in my life, my friend

 

Pic one was renowned tour player “good guy” DL3 at Bay Hill on 17 in the third round? He hit a poor shot and slammed his club into a sprinkler head.

 

Didn't the hosting course send DL3 the bill for damages? Thought I remember reading about that somewhere a long time ago.

 

Yes I believe that is true, it wasn’t the course though, it was Arnie. I heard that rumor as well from friends I trust in the industry.

[egehoski]

Which is worse?

 

 

 

Or

 

 

 

What's behind door #3, Bob?

 

Thought it was kinda funny, someone asking what that was in picture #1 - seen too many in my life, my friend

 

Pic one was renowned tour player “good guy” DL3 at Bay Hill on 17 in the third round? He hit a poor shot and slammed his club into a sprinkler head.

 

Didn't the hosting course send DL3 the bill for damages? Thought I remember reading about that somewhere a long time ago.

 

Yes. I believe Arnie personally billed him.

[new2g0lf]

Brooks,,, lol

 

It's not like Sergio is the only one to act like this. Brooks might as well say that half the field in my sport needs to grow up... And then double apologize when he he himself acts like a child...

 

Meltdowns happen,, it's a human thing..

 

Pretty sure no one else has intentionally damaged 5 greens and hacked up a bunker. Damaging one green, throwing a club in the water, breaking a club, hitting a moving ball on the green, hitting all the balls in your bag into the water are meltdowns. What he did wasn't a meltdown, it was a 5 hole temper tantrum and it's not normal.

[bmurph]

Brooks,,, lol

 

It's not like Sergio is the only one to act like this. Brooks might as well say that half the field in my sport needs to grow up... And then double apologize when he he himself acts like a child...

 

Meltdowns happen,, it's a human thing..

 

Pretty sure no one else has intentionally damaged 5 greens and hacked up a bunker. Damaging one green, throwing a club in the water, breaking a club, hitting a moving ball on the green, hitting all the balls in your bag into the water are meltdowns. What he did wasn't a meltdown, it was a 5 hole temper tantrum and it's not normal.

 

And has been discussed several times over, Sergio has already had several garden variety meltdowns that would be forgiven if considered as isolated incidents.

[Mr. Grumpy]

Brooks,,, lol

 

It's not like Sergio is the only one to act like this. Brooks might as well say that half the field in my sport needs to grow up... And then double apologize when he he himself acts like a child...

 

Meltdowns happen,, it's a human thing..

 

Pretty sure no one else has intentionally damaged 5 greens and hacked up a bunker. Damaging one green, throwing a club in the water, breaking a club, hitting a moving ball on the green, hitting all the balls in your bag into the water are meltdowns. What he did wasn't a meltdown, it was a 5 hole temper tantrum and it's not normal.

 

None of it is normal,, even the other examples you listed. Why give any of it a pass?

[rangersgoalie]

Which is worse?

 

 

 

Or

 

 

 

What's behind door #3, Bob?

 

Thought it was kinda funny, someone asking what that was in picture #1 - seen too many in my life, my friend

 

Pic one was renowned tour player “good guy” DL3 at Bay Hill on 17 in the third round? He hit a poor shot and slammed his club into a sprinkler head.

 

Didn't the hosting course send DL3 the bill for damages? Thought I remember reading about that somewhere a long time ago.

 

As a joke, Palmer sent Love a bill for like $110.00 Or something for the repair of the head.

Nothing else even though his action changed the playing conditions right in front of the hole for the groups behind him

[MMB1500]

I think he just did a Phil. Greens were awful, making a point, went about it totally the wrong way.

 

Yes, but they were awful for everyone. That's the point. Garcia wasn't being unfairly treated or singled-out by the fact he had to putt on them.

[new2g0lf]

Brooks,,, lol

 

It's not like Sergio is the only one to act like this. Brooks might as well say that half the field in my sport needs to grow up... And then double apologize when he he himself acts like a child...

 

Meltdowns happen,, it's a human thing..

 

Pretty sure no one else has intentionally damaged 5 greens and hacked up a bunker. Damaging one green, throwing a club in the water, breaking a club, hitting a moving ball on the green, hitting all the balls in your bag into the water are meltdowns. What he did wasn't a meltdown, it was a 5 hole temper tantrum and it's not normal.

 

None of it is normal,, even the other examples you listed. Why give any of it a pass?

 

I don't give it a pass but there's a big difference from a momentary lapse of judgement that causes you to do something stupid in the moment compared to having a 5 hole temper tantrum.

[rukahs]

Not read the whole thread but can we make a list of things Sergio has done??

 

Spat in the hole.... actually opened his mouth and SPAT in the cup???

Thrown his shoe into the gallery and then kicked it when they threw it back

This latest tantrum

[bscinstnct]

Not read the whole thread but can we make a list of things Sergio has done??

 

Spat in the hole.... actually opened his mouth and SPAT in the cup???

Thrown his shoe into the gallery and then kicked it when they threw it back

This latest tantrum

 

 

[rukahs]

I laugh every time. Every single time.

[chigolfer1]

Brooks,,, lol

 

It's not like Sergio is the only one to act like this. Brooks might as well say that half the field in my sport needs to grow up... And then double apologize when he he himself acts like a child...

 

Meltdowns happen,, it's a human thing..

 

Pretty sure no one else has intentionally damaged 5 greens and hacked up a bunker. Damaging one green, throwing a club in the water, breaking a club, hitting a moving ball on the green, hitting all the balls in your bag into the water are meltdowns. What he did wasn't a meltdown, it was a 5 hole temper tantrum and it's not normal.

 

None of it is normal,, even the other examples you listed. Why give any of it a pass?

 

And most of those other meltdowns have absolutely no impact on your playing partners. What makes this so bad, IMO, is the fact he was damaging it for other players. This wasn't just a "ceremonial" meldown so to speak, this had or could have had a tangible impact on everyone behind him.