Medical Marijuana

[Vindog]

> @vishkarchaudhary said:

> > > In that case we should ban all fast food, sugary drinks, desserts, etc. If you are obese, you should go to a government run fat camp. We should also outlaw poverty.

> >

> > So what you are saying everything should be legal and there should be no restrictions at all?

>

> Yeah, I don’t agree with this at all. Legality exists if there is something illegal. Besides, humans and our societies are built on rules. Anarchism and nihilist beliefs are easy to fall prey to, especially with the terrible things happen today but with a nihilistic world, we will still end up getting a class system albeit highly different from the one we’re familiar now. It’s not about restrictions, rules are the foundations of human interactions

 

Bingo. The last sentence really hit on one of my earlier posts, in particular, "the foundation of human interactions." My opinion is that laws should be based in that societal view, and should chiefly govern where members of the society effect that society, and what we do with and to each other. I love it.

 

But that's where I think it should end, mostly. Legislation that creeps into personal life is where unjust law begins.

[dpb5031]

Aside from the legality issue, I think at some point research is going to get to a point where we'll be able to identify individuals who are prone to opioid addiction. It amazes me that some folks are prescribed oxycontin and become addicted straight away, while many others simply use them for a brief period of time with no addictive impulses. There's got to be some sort of bio/chemical receptor that's different in those who become addicted so easily. Perhaps if we can identify it in advance through a biomarker or something, we'll be able to save a lot of families from the horrors of addiction.

[Mikey5e]

> @dpb5031 said:

> Aside from the legality issue, I think at some point research is going to get to a point where we'll be able to identify individuals who are prone to opioid addiction. It amazes me that some folks are prescribed oxycontin and become addicted straight away, while many others simply use them for a brief period of time with no addictive impulses. There's got to be some sort of bio/chemical receptor that's different in those who become addicted so easily. Perhaps if we can identify it in advance through a biomarker or something, we'll be able to save a lot of families from the horrors of addiction.

 

I am in agreement with a lot of what you have posted, but not sure how it relates to the op?

[Krt22]

> @Mikey5e said:

> > @dpb5031 said:

> > Aside from the legality issue, I think at some point research is going to get to a point where we'll be able to identify individuals who are prone to opioid addiction. It amazes me that some folks are prescribed oxycontin and become addicted straight away, while many others simply use them for a brief period of time with no addictive impulses. There's got to be some sort of bio/chemical receptor that's different in those who become addicted so easily. Perhaps if we can identify it in advance through a biomarker or something, we'll be able to save a lot of families from the horrors of addiction.

>

> I am in agreement with a lot of what you have posted, but not sure how it relates to the op?

 

Agreed, despite being classed the same by uncle sam opioids and THC are radically different when it comes to actual addiction and not quite related to golf performance. This on the other hand is very interesting....

 

https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cannabis/19/05/13674653/bubba-watson-believes-cbd-for-golfers-is-a-no-brainer

 

 

[dpb5031]

> @Mikey5e said:

> > @dpb5031 said:

> > Aside from the legality issue, I think at some point research is going to get to a point where we'll be able to identify individuals who are prone to opioid addiction. It amazes me that some folks are prescribed oxycontin and become addicted straight away, while many others simply use them for a brief period of time with no addictive impulses. There's got to be some sort of bio/chemical receptor that's different in those who become addicted so easily. Perhaps if we can identify it in advance through a biomarker or something, we'll be able to save a lot of families from the horrors of addiction.

>

> I am in agreement with a lot of what you have posted, but not sure how it relates to the op?

 

Yea, I wandered off on a semi-random tangent...lol! Just something I've been pondering with it being such a crisis...

 

Relative to the thread, I don't see marijuana as a clear-cut performance enhancer. I'd guarantee that for each person who claims it helps, there will be multiple who perform poorer while under the influence. Alcohol is similar. I know guys who play great with a few in them, and others who can't play a lick after 2 beers. I don't think we need bans for anything other than professional play, just some common sense. Banning substances opens a real can of worms and effectively testing to prove a case is both expensive, cumbersome, and generally impractical.

[Mikey5e]

> @dpb5031 said:

> > @Mikey5e said:

> > > @dpb5031 said:

> > > Aside from the legality issue, I think at some point research is going to get to a point where we'll be able to identify individuals who are prone to opioid addiction. It amazes me that some folks are prescribed oxycontin and become addicted straight away, while many others simply use them for a brief period of time with no addictive impulses. There's got to be some sort of bio/chemical receptor that's different in those who become addicted so easily. Perhaps if we can identify it in advance through a biomarker or something, we'll be able to save a lot of families from the horrors of addiction.

> >

> > I am in agreement with a lot of what you have posted, but not sure how it relates to the op?

>

> Yea, I wandered off on a semi-random tangent...lol! Just something I've been pondering with it being such a crisis...

>

> Relative to the thread, I don't see marijuana as a clear-cut performance enhancer. I'd guarantee that for each person who claims it helps, there will be multiple who perform poorer while under the influence. Alcohol is similar. I know guys who play great with a few in them, and others who can't play a lick after 2 beers. I don't think we need bans for anything other than professional play, just some common sense. Banning substances opens a real can of worms and effectively testing to prove a case is both expensive, cumbersome, and generally impractical.

 

I recently have tried CBD in the form of an ointment, like that of a ChapStick dispenser and rub it on my ankle which gives me pain during golf and after golf. I'm not sure if it does anything to relieve the pain, if it does I haven't noticed much at all, and haven't used it that much but only about three times. Personally, I see some good in marijuana when used properly. For example, my next door neighbor who was is in her low-80s developed cancer and had to go through extensive medical procedures to cure the cancer. She was very much depressed and giving up until she took a derivative of cannabis in the form of a pill prescribed by doctors which many would say saved her life. With reasonable Minds even the marijuana plant can be a good thing. Although we may not like it, we depend on legislators a lot to tell us what is reasonable and safe for us. Now I don't want to start another political escapade here with legislators and so on, that's just the way life is and because the law says it is that way we pretty much have to accept it or petition to have it changed. I do find the link someone posted above in reference to Bubba Watson and others on the use of CBD, very interesting to read.

[BiggErn]

> @Roadking2003 said:

> > @Krt22 said:

> > You should really look up the history of Marijuana laws in the US. Laws are made by imperfect politicians, not by medical professionals.

> >

>

> It's actually worse than that. It stared for racial reasons.

 

Lol. When all else fails.

[Philomathesq]

So, in an attempt to steer away from all the other stuff, has anyone participated in a competition/tournament where participants were directly made aware of the drug policy for such competition/tournament?

[bigred90gt]

> @dpb5031 said:

> > @Mikey5e said:

> > > @dpb5031 said:

> > > Aside from the legality issue, I think at some point research is going to get to a point where we'll be able to identify individuals who are prone to opioid addiction. It amazes me that some folks are prescribed oxycontin and become addicted straight away, while many others simply use them for a brief period of time with no addictive impulses. There's got to be some sort of bio/chemical receptor that's different in those who become addicted so easily. Perhaps if we can identify it in advance through a biomarker or something, we'll be able to save a lot of families from the horrors of addiction.

> >

> > I am in agreement with a lot of what you have posted, but not sure how it relates to the op?

>

> Yea, I wandered off on a semi-random tangent...lol! Just something I've been pondering with it being such a crisis...

>

> Relative to the thread, I don't see marijuana as a clear-cut performance enhancer. I'd guarantee that for each person who claims it helps, there will be multiple who perform poorer while under the influence. Alcohol is similar. I know guys who play great with a few in them, and others who can't play a lick after 2 beers. I don't think we need bans for anything other than professional play, just some common sense. Banning substances opens a real can of worms and effectively testing to prove a case is both expensive, cumbersome, and generally impractical.

 

I am that person whose game tanks when I drink. And I’m not talking about being drunk, I’m talking literally 1-2 beers has caused more than plenty 4-6 stroke difference front 9 to back. The worst was one round I shot a 35 on the front, drank 1 beer at the turn, shot 53 on the back.

 

Fortunately for me, I no longer play competitive golf and if my score goes south it doesn’t really bother me anymore, lol.

 

 

[southplains]

I've been trying out high-CBD hemp, less than 0.3 THC, now legal Federally, in Texas and many other states. Surprisingly, it produces a relaxing buzz effect maybe similar to the op's medical marijuana competitor's claim. Walking and swinging a golf club seem unaffected, but the relaxation is definite. However, the same effect can be produced by Xanax, which is allowed by PGA tour rules. Of course, I would be in violation anyway due to the beta blocker I take for heart trouble. Go figure.

[Mikey5e]

Man, CBD retailers are cropping up everywhere around the area. I tried a few drops of oil underneath the tongue yesterday to see if it would help an aching ankle but about all it did was nauseate me. I think there is a safe place within our society for cannabis products, but I also think the THC portion needs to be seriously scrutinized.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

> @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > > @Krt22 said:

> > > > > You should really look up the history of Marijuana laws in the US. Laws are made by imperfect politicians, not by medical professionals.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's actually worse than that. It stared for racial reasons.

> > >

> > > Conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory. Officially jumped the shark now.

> >

> > There was no conspiracy. Just ignorance and racism.

> >

> > Harry Anslinger took the scientifically unsupported idea of marijuana as a violence-inducing drug, connected it to black and Hispanic people, and created a perfect package of terror to sell to the American media and public. By emphasizing the Spanish word marihuana instead of cannabis, he created a strong association between the drug and the newly arrived Mexican immigrants who helped popularize it in the States. He also created a narrative around the idea that cannabis made black people forget their place in society. He pushed the idea that jazz was evil music created by people under the influence of marijuana.

> >

> > https://www.businessinsider.com/racist-origins-marijuana-prohibition-legalization-2018-2

>

> That's interesting. Thanks for sharing. The notion that M is violence inducing has got to be one of the greatest lies of all time.

> @Mikey5e said:

> Man, CBD retailers are cropping up everywhere around the area. I tried a few drops of oil underneath the tongue yesterday to see if it would help an aching ankle but about all it did was nauseate me. I think there is a safe place within our society for cannabis products, but I also think the THC portion needs to be seriously scrutinized.

 

Should it be scrutinized anymore than alcohol? If so, do explain the logic.

[Mikey5e]

> @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > > > @Krt22 said:

> > > > > > You should really look up the history of Marijuana laws in the US. Laws are made by imperfect politicians, not by medical professionals.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It's actually worse than that. It stared for racial reasons.

> > > >

> > > > Conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory. Officially jumped the shark now.

> > >

> > > There was no conspiracy. Just ignorance and racism.

> > >

> > > Harry Anslinger took the scientifically unsupported idea of marijuana as a violence-inducing drug, connected it to black and Hispanic people, and created a perfect package of terror to sell to the American media and public. By emphasizing the Spanish word marihuana instead of cannabis, he created a strong association between the drug and the newly arrived Mexican immigrants who helped popularize it in the States. He also created a narrative around the idea that cannabis made black people forget their place in society. He pushed the idea that jazz was evil music created by people under the influence of marijuana.

> > >

> > > https://www.businessinsider.com/racist-origins-marijuana-prohibition-legalization-2018-2

> >

> > That's interesting. Thanks for sharing. The notion that M is violence inducing has got to be one of the greatest lies of all time.

> > @Mikey5e said:

> > Man, CBD retailers are cropping up everywhere around the area. I tried a few drops of oil underneath the tongue yesterday to see if it would help an aching ankle but about all it did was nauseate me. I think there is a safe place within our society for cannabis products, but I also think the THC portion needs to be seriously scrutinized.

>

> Should it be scrutinized anymore than alcohol? If so, do explain the logic.

 

I'm not sure what the answer is but imagine all the problems in the lives of many humans caused by alcohol consumption. Then again oh, I'm sure that can be said about many things. As a Lutheran, many lutherans joke about how we like Lutheran lemonade, which is actually beer.

[dpb5031]

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/matt-every-suspended-pga-tour-12-weeks-after-testing-positive-cannabis

[Hawkeye77]

> @fore_life said:

> Just because they don’t prosecute doesn’t mean it isn’t illegal on the federal level there

>

> “Recreational marijuana is illegal in Germany. However, less than 11 grams is considered a "small amount" in Berlin, and criminal charges may be dropped by the authorities. Many people say that most small amount charges in Berlin are not prosecuted, but that's not guaranteed. However, possession charges above 11 grams must be prosecuted by law.”

 

> @fore_life said:

> Just because they don’t prosecute doesn’t mean it isn’t illegal on the federal level there

>

> “Recreational marijuana is illegal in Germany. However, less than 11 grams is considered a "small amount" in Berlin, and criminal charges may be dropped by the authorities. Many people say that most small amount charges in Berlin are not prosecuted, but that's not guaranteed. However, possession charges above 11 grams must be prosecuted by law.”

 

> @Philomathesq said:

> > @fore_life said:

> > Picking pieces here, but it’s rad when people with little understanding form **options** based on perception.

>

> My perception is that you were high when you typed this. Also, what does "Picking pieces" mean? Never heard that one before.

 

Someone is high based on reading a typed sentence?

 

Save us from lawyers who jump to conclusions, lol.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

> @Mikey5e said:

> > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > > > > @Krt22 said:

> > > > > > > You should really look up the history of Marijuana laws in the US. Laws are made by imperfect politicians, not by medical professionals.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's actually worse than that. It stared for racial reasons.

> > > > >

> > > > > Conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory. Officially jumped the shark now.

> > > >

> > > > There was no conspiracy. Just ignorance and racism.

> > > >

> > > > Harry Anslinger took the scientifically unsupported idea of marijuana as a violence-inducing drug, connected it to black and Hispanic people, and created a perfect package of terror to sell to the American media and public. By emphasizing the Spanish word marihuana instead of cannabis, he created a strong association between the drug and the newly arrived Mexican immigrants who helped popularize it in the States. He also created a narrative around the idea that cannabis made black people forget their place in society. He pushed the idea that jazz was evil music created by people under the influence of marijuana.

> > > >

> > > > https://www.businessinsider.com/racist-origins-marijuana-prohibition-legalization-2018-2

> > >

> > > That's interesting. Thanks for sharing. The notion that M is violence inducing has got to be one of the greatest lies of all time.

> > > @Mikey5e said:

> > > Man, CBD retailers are cropping up everywhere around the area. I tried a few drops of oil underneath the tongue yesterday to see if it would help an aching ankle but about all it did was nauseate me. I think there is a safe place within our society for cannabis products, but I also think the THC portion needs to be seriously scrutinized.

> >

> > Should it be scrutinized anymore than alcohol? If so, do explain the logic.

>

> I'm not sure what the answer is but imagine all the problems in the lives of many humans caused by alcohol consumption. Then again oh, I'm sure that can be said about many things. As a Lutheran, many lutherans joke about how we like Lutheran lemonade, which is actually beer.

 

Definitely THC is way more mild than alcohol. If people consumed THC instead of alcohol there would be far fewer problems.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

> @dpb5031 said:

> https://www.golfchannel.com/news/matt-every-suspended-pga-tour-12-weeks-after-testing-positive-cannabis

 

Would like to see the tour sued and lose.

[Hawkeye77]

Not sure how Dallas fits with wacky tobacky - but, since things seem to be going in circles for several pages why not pause on a Saturday morning and reflect on the Ewings.

 

[HappyGilmoresBoots]

> @Mikey5e said:

> Man, CBD retailers are cropping up everywhere around the area. I tried a few drops of oil underneath the tongue yesterday to see if it would help an aching ankle but about all it did was nauseate me. I think there is a safe place within our society for cannabis products, but I also think the THC portion needs to be seriously scrutinized.

 

That's what I'm most optimistic for: As decriminalization and legalization occur, that makes it legally okay to study the long-term effects (of CBD and THC), and their suitability for actual medical usage.

[bladehunter]

> @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > @dpb5031 said:

> > https://www.golfchannel.com/news/matt-every-suspended-pga-tour-12-weeks-after-testing-positive-cannabis

>

> Would like to see the tour sued and lose.

 

Idon’t know the rules on medical ways of using it as far as the federal level. It probably depends on how it’s ingested ? But if it’s federally illegal , then I’d guess you’d have a hard time winning anything in court.

[Mikey5e]

> @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > @Mikey5e said:

> > > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > > > > > @Krt22 said:

> > > > > > > > You should really look up the history of Marijuana laws in the US. Laws are made by imperfect politicians, not by medical professionals.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It's actually worse than that. It stared for racial reasons.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory. Officially jumped the shark now.

> > > > >

> > > > > There was no conspiracy. Just ignorance and racism.

> > > > >

> > > > > Harry Anslinger took the scientifically unsupported idea of marijuana as a violence-inducing drug, connected it to black and Hispanic people, and created a perfect package of terror to sell to the American media and public. By emphasizing the Spanish word marihuana instead of cannabis, he created a strong association between the drug and the newly arrived Mexican immigrants who helped popularize it in the States. He also created a narrative around the idea that cannabis made black people forget their place in society. He pushed the idea that jazz was evil music created by people under the influence of marijuana.

> > > > >

> > > > > https://www.businessinsider.com/racist-origins-marijuana-prohibition-legalization-2018-2

> > > >

> > > > That's interesting. Thanks for sharing. The notion that M is violence inducing has got to be one of the greatest lies of all time.

> > > > @Mikey5e said:

> > > > Man, CBD retailers are cropping up everywhere around the area. I tried a few drops of oil underneath the tongue yesterday to see if it would help an aching ankle but about all it did was nauseate me. I think there is a safe place within our society for cannabis products, but I also think the THC portion needs to be seriously scrutinized.

> > >

> > > Should it be scrutinized anymore than alcohol? If so, do explain the logic.

> >

> > I'm not sure what the answer is but imagine all the problems in the lives of many humans caused by alcohol consumption. Then again oh, I'm sure that can be said about many things. As a Lutheran, many lutherans joke about how we like Lutheran lemonade, which is actually beer.

>

> Definitely THC is way more mild than alcohol. If people consumed THC instead of alcohol there would be far fewer problems.

 

mental health problems?

[Vindog]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > @dpb5031 said:

> > > https://www.golfchannel.com/news/matt-every-suspended-pga-tour-12-weeks-after-testing-positive-cannabis

> >

> > Would like to see the tour sued and lose.

>

> Idon’t know the rules on medical ways of using it as far as the federal level. It probably depends on how it’s ingested ? But if it’s federally illegal , then I’d guess you’d have a hard time winning anything in court.

 

The rub for any type of lawsuit here is that a substance doesn't have to be illegal to be on a banned list, so I doubt a suit would go anywhere. An appeal maybe, but in court? Probably not.

[Bill Broderick]

> @Mikey5e said:

> Man, CBD retailers are cropping up everywhere around the area. I tried a few drops of oil underneath the tongue yesterday to see if it would help an aching ankle but about all it did was nauseate me. I think there is a safe place within our society for cannabis products, but I also think the THC portion needs to be seriously scrutinized.

 

IMO, a big problem with CBD oil right now is that there is a complete lack of oversight as to quality and ingredients. I've read may articles that talk about studies that have been done that indicate that a very high percent of products don't contain the amount of CBD promised on the label (some more, some less). I have severe arthritis in both of my knees and will need knee replacements. But, doctors don't perform knee replacements before a patient turns 60. So, I'm trying to live with it for at least a few more years. When I had surgery to repair a torn meniscus in one of my knees last year, my surgeon, who is very pro-active in researching new treatments, recommended that I try CBD. He told me that he also has knee problems and that it's the only thing that has helped him. He also told me that he had done a lot of research, and recommended a specific brand (Canbiola). It's more expensive than other brands. But, the dosage appears to be less than those cheaper brands. So, it's kind of a wash. On the other hand, my Primary Care Physician knows absolutely nothing about CBD, had no recommendations and just deferred to the Orthopedic surgeon. Also, a friend of mine, who had shoulder surgery around the same time that I had my knee surgery, uses a different brand of CBD oil. She tells me that it tastes horrible. The stuff that I take doesn't taste bad at all (it doesn't taste good, but it's not bad either).

 

I take both drops and a salve. They have definitely helped. But, arthritis is arthritis. Nothing is going to eliminate the pain completely (until I get the knee replacements). But, I definitely have less pain when I take both regularly than if I don't.

 

I also use a local, independently owned pharmacy owned by a woman who make sure that she's knowledgeable about everything that she sells. At the time that I began taking CBD products, she didn't carry anything because she was also in the process of investigating various brands/companies. She now carries some CBD products. But, I don't know anything about what she carries.

 

To make a long story short (I know, too late), before just going out and buying random CBD products, you should speak with a medical professional that you trust. If your doctor can't give you advice, ask if he/she knows of someone you can speak with. If you don't use a national brand pharmacy and know & trust your pharmacist, that might be another resource to tap into.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

> @Mikey5e said:

> > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > @Mikey5e said:

> > > > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > > > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > > > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > > > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > > > > > > @Krt22 said:

> > > > > > > > > You should really look up the history of Marijuana laws in the US. Laws are made by imperfect politicians, not by medical professionals.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It's actually worse than that. It stared for racial reasons.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory. Officially jumped the shark now.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There was no conspiracy. Just ignorance and racism.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Harry Anslinger took the scientifically unsupported idea of marijuana as a violence-inducing drug, connected it to black and Hispanic people, and created a perfect package of terror to sell to the American media and public. By emphasizing the Spanish word marihuana instead of cannabis, he created a strong association between the drug and the newly arrived Mexican immigrants who helped popularize it in the States. He also created a narrative around the idea that cannabis made black people forget their place in society. He pushed the idea that jazz was evil music created by people under the influence of marijuana.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > https://www.businessinsider.com/racist-origins-marijuana-prohibition-legalization-2018-2

> > > > >

> > > > > That's interesting. Thanks for sharing. The notion that M is violence inducing has got to be one of the greatest lies of all time.

> > > > > @Mikey5e said:

> > > > > Man, CBD retailers are cropping up everywhere around the area. I tried a few drops of oil underneath the tongue yesterday to see if it would help an aching ankle but about all it did was nauseate me. I think there is a safe place within our society for cannabis products, but I also think the THC portion needs to be seriously scrutinized.

> > > >

> > > > Should it be scrutinized anymore than alcohol? If so, do explain the logic.

> > >

> > > I'm not sure what the answer is but imagine all the problems in the lives of many humans caused by alcohol consumption. Then again oh, I'm sure that can be said about many things. As a Lutheran, many lutherans joke about how we like Lutheran lemonade, which is actually beer.

> >

> > Definitely THC is way more mild than alcohol. If people consumed THC instead of alcohol there would be far fewer problems.

>

> mental health problems?

 

Mental health problems? Masking, treating or causing them? Please explain.

[J13]

For anyone looking to try CBD in tinctures vs lotions

 

CBD tinctures (oil drops under tongue) are great and have a much bigger effect than the lotions. I don't think CBD is great transdermally but the tinctures are amazing for stress, anxiety, and general sense of well being. With that said they aren't immediate and take about a week of daily use to feel the cumulative effect. ALso make sure you are getting quality CBD oils and not junk. There's a lot of snake oil out there so if you need a suggestion lmk i'm happy to help or visit your local reputable shop, preferably one that has testing involved.

[cxx]

> @J13 said:

> For anyone looking to try CBD in tinctures vs lotions

>

> CBD tinctures (oil drops under tongue) are great and have a much bigger effect than the lotions. I don't think CBD is great transdermally but the tinctures are amazing for stress, anxiety, and general sense of well being. With that said they aren't immediate and take about a week of daily use to feel the cumulative effect. ALso make sure you are getting quality CBD oils and not junk. There's a lot of snake oil out there so if you need a suggestion lmk i'm happy to help or visit your local reputable shop, preferably one that has testing involved.

 

It does seem like CBD is treated like a supplement rather than a drug, at least by a big part of the industry.

[J13]

> @cxx said:

> > @J13 said:

> > For anyone looking to try CBD in tinctures vs lotions

> >

> > CBD tinctures (oil drops under tongue) are great and have a much bigger effect than the lotions. I don't think CBD is great transdermally but the tinctures are amazing for stress, anxiety, and general sense of well being. With that said they aren't immediate and take about a week of daily use to feel the cumulative effect. ALso make sure you are getting quality CBD oils and not junk. There's a lot of snake oil out there so if you need a suggestion lmk i'm happy to help or visit your local reputable shop, preferably one that has testing involved.

>

> It does seem like CBD is treated like a supplement rather than a drug, at least by a big part of the industry.

 

Defining what is and isn't a drug is subjective. Sugar and caffeine are drugs so is CBD? hard to say. CBD is natural and healthy with many positive effects that can help people far more than the pressed chemicals that pharma companies pump out. Problem is you can't patent a plant so big pharma and alcohol fought to get it banned with the hemp plant that is amazing for clothing, manufacturing and other things. Sad to see our govt politicians value big money over human beings health.

[cxx]

> @J13 said:

> > @cxx said:

> > > @J13 said:

> > > For anyone looking to try CBD in tinctures vs lotions

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> > > CBD tinctures (oil drops under tongue) are great and have a much bigger effect than the lotions. I don't think CBD is great transdermally but the tinctures are amazing for stress, anxiety, and general sense of well being. With that said they aren't immediate and take about a week of daily use to feel the cumulative effect. ALso make sure you are getting quality CBD oils and not junk. There's a lot of snake oil out there so if you need a suggestion lmk i'm happy to help or visit your local reputable shop, preferably one that has testing involved.

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> > It does seem like CBD is treated like a supplement rather than a drug, at least by a big part of the industry.

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> Defining what is and isn't a drug is subjective. Sugar and caffeine are drugs so is CBD? hard to say. CBD is natural and healthy with many positive effects that can help people far more than the pressed chemicals that pharma companies pump out. Problem is you can't patent a plant so big pharma and alcohol fought to get it banned with the hemp plant that is amazing for clothing, manufacturing and other things. Sad to see our govt politicians value big money over human beings health.

 

I was referring to the lack of enforced quality standards in supplements as opposed to pharmaceuticals. I'm not sure what you really get when purchasing from a gas station.

[Mikey5e]

> @J13 said:

> For anyone looking to try CBD in tinctures vs lotions

>

> CBD tinctures (oil drops under tongue) are great and have a much bigger effect than the lotions. I don't think CBD is great transdermally but the tinctures are amazing for stress, anxiety, and general sense of well being. With that said they aren't immediate and take about a week of daily use to feel the cumulative effect. ALso make sure you are getting quality CBD oils and not junk. There's a lot of snake oil out there so if you need a suggestion lmk i'm happy to help or visit your local reputable shop, preferably one that has testing involved.

 

Thanks for the good right up, I think it's quite informative. I purchased a paste stick of CBD rub on salve, that looks like an oversized chapstick applicator, and put it on my ankle which is arthritic due to injury. It doesn't seem to do that much for me but I'll continue to use it. As far as the drops under the tongue with oil, I have tried that only one time from a friend's Supply. I would probably have to try it more consistently to get good benefit from it. I did get a little nauseated from it, but my friend said he put a little extra under my tongue when he gave me some. I guess I am a little leery of using it under the tongue because of all the negative hype that marijuana has had throughout the years. I am concerned about what other side effects it might have that could be damaging?

[BlackDiamondPar5]

@Mikey5e said "all the negative hype that marijuana has had throughout the years."

 

The only negative hype is baseless propaganda.

 

Also in earlier post to me you mentioned something about M and mental health. What do you mean?