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New Trend - drivers with Low loft ?


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Down to the individual. Lofts on tour would range somewhere from 6ish to 12 ish degrees.

BTW, Bryson is at 5.5, Morikawa is at 9.5

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Titleist TSi2 (18), Tensei AV Raw White 85TX

Srixon U85 (22), PX 6.5

Ping i210 (5-UW), X100

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Bryson has a 7.5* that he cranks down to 5.5* which is kind of crazy, but he's a beast now. Morikawa has an 8.0* that he has dialed up to 9.5*.

I used to have a 10.5* driver that I kept adjusting down, for awhile below 9* because my flight was too high. Now I game a 9.5* that I'm considering cranking down a notch or two.

I'm not particularly fast or strong, I think it's just the way that I make contact needs less loft, otherwise the ball just sails upward.

Driver: Cobra LTDx 10.5° Helium Nanocore

Fairway: Cobra RADSPEED 18.5° Motore X

Hybrids: Titleist TSi2 21°, 24° TENSEI AV RAW Blue

Utility Iron: Titleist 718 AP1 24° Recoil 780

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I play an M5 turned all the way down, have hit the SIM 8* turned all the way down as well. Like the comment above, I add loft at impact along with an A0A between 4-5 up. I don't feel I lose any control at all, but it keeps my spin in a reasonable range.

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Sim TI Rocket 14* w/ Atmos Black TS 7x

Callaway UW 17* w/ Tensei Pro White 70tx

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I'm the same. 8.5 to 8 actually gets me rollout. 9.5 I carry the farthest but it stops right away.

Taylormade Sim 9.0° Diamana ZF 60 stiff

Taylormade Sim Ti 15° Diamana ZF 70 stiff

Cobra F7 4-5 Ti 18.5° Diamana Kai'li 80 stiff

Ping G25 Hybrid 23° Kbs C-Taper Lite stiff 

Bridgestone Tour-B X-CB 5-PW Project X LZ 6.0

Cobra MiM Black 50°v, 56°v, 60°w Kbs Hi-REV 2.0 125 stiff 

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Srixon Z-Star 

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In general, ever since the solid core ball was the norm, the trend was drivers having higher degree lofts for the high launch and low spin for most players. People with low lofted drivers have either a crazy swing speed (125+ MPH) that imparts a lot of spin and/or have a very upward attack angle. Most golfers with swing speeds under 100 MPH need more spin to keep the ball the in air.

10.5 deg Titleist 905R with stock UST Proforce V2 Shaft (Stiff flex)
Titleist 990 (3-PW) with stock Dynamic Gold in S300
Taylormade V-Steel 5W & 3W with Grafalloy Prolaunch Red shafts (Regular Flex)
2011 Adams Tom Watson signature wedges in 52 and 56 degrees with stock steel shafts (Player's Grind)
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"Loft for loft, length for length, and shaft for shaft, the ball will go the same distance when hit on the sweet spot regardless how old the iron."

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IDK what my numbers are. I hit a nice mid flight draw with an 8.5º Titleist 915 set at C1. (7.75). I use a lightweight 50g shaft in S flex.

No trend for me. I used to hit a 975d in 8.5º. I've hit 8.5º drivers forever.

Taylormade 16' M2 9.5º (Tensei 60 Orange R)

Taylormade 17' M1 HL3 17º (Kuro Kage 70 S)

Titleist 910H 21º and 24º (Stock Diamana Kai'li R)

Srixon 745 5-PW (TT DG Lite S300)

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I think it depends on the head. I can easily hit a low-lofted Ping driver because they seem to launch higher. Same with Srixon. So I’ll go with 9 degree heads in those and even dial it down and confirmed this was best in fittings. In other heads, such as TM M6, the 10.5 fit me better. These were all with swings in the 103-105 range.

Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond 10.5 w/Diamana TB 60S

PXG GEN6 5 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Yamaha RMX VD 7 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Callaway Mavrik Pro hybrid (22) w/Aldila Tour Blue 85 stiff hybrid

Wilson Staff Model CB 5-G w/DG s300 shafts

Edel T grind 54 w/Nippon 125 wedge shaft

Fourteen RM-12 58 w/Dynamic Golds400

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Many years ago, when I was getting serious about golf after taking it up again in my early 20's, I had an 8.5 Titleist 905T. To this day I think I hit some of my longest drives with it. But I was young, fit, strong, flexible... After that I moved on to a 7 degree Bang (or Krank? it was a long time ago!) head and I could hit it just fine. Long, straight, fun. I didn't use it much because it put me out of position when I played, and I'd rather have a full pitching wedge in on a par 4 rather than a partial 52. The 905T was in the bag most often unless it were a windy day. I then had an 8.5 Cobra L4VX, then an 8.5 (I think?) degree Adams head for a long time and loved it. I think my driver head speed was somewhere between 112mph and 123mph during this stage. No trouble with launch, spin, control, etc. I think the L4V is up there with the 905T for me, as "best of the best."

I recently broke my Adams driver and was fitted for a Titleist TS2, 9.5 knocked down .75. It works for me - while I'm still in my 30's I've lost a bunch of speed due to non-golf related shoulder and back issues. I'm down to 111mph and could probably get away with a more forgiving loft but I really like the launch I'm familiar with. I still get the ball pretty high into the air, but if I'm having a bad day... well, it's pretty funny how high it can go. I'll happily play whatever loft/flex/length/etc that works best (or inspires the most confidence, which is kinda similar) rather than chase whatever suits my ego.

Anyway, I was never a particularly good golfer with any of the speed and nor am I now. Actually, I think I'm a better player now but I'm not as fast - so I score about the same now as I used to, but in a very different way.

 

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Me too. I was playing a R5 10.5* and I kept complaining to an instructor about my ballooning drives. He recommended a shaft change, but knew that is an expensive trial and error proposition. Quick fix: I bought a Diablo 8.5*. Instantly started carrying 30 yards farther with a more penetrating trajectory. I know I hit the ball with a downward AoA, but it is what it is. The launch monitor showed the R5 was putting 6000 RPM on the ball.

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Based on the its COR alone the GBB will be shorter than today's drivers.

10.5 deg Titleist 905R with stock UST Proforce V2 Shaft (Stiff flex)
Titleist 990 (3-PW) with stock Dynamic Gold in S300
Taylormade V-Steel 5W & 3W with Grafalloy Prolaunch Red shafts (Regular Flex)
2011 Adams Tom Watson signature wedges in 52 and 56 degrees with stock steel shafts (Player's Grind)
Rife Island Series Aruba Blade Putter

 

"Loft for loft, length for length, and shaft for shaft, the ball will go the same distance when hit on the sweet spot regardless how old the iron."

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Callaway were the originators of loft inflation. That 7.5* GBB is probably 9* or 10*, if not more.

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Fwy woods: King LTD 3/4, RIP Beta 90X -or- TM Sim2 Ti 3w, NV105 X
Hybrid:  Cobra King Tec 2h, MMT 80 S 

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Interested on this topic. My ss is about 111-113, AoA about +2/+3, dynamic loft at impact usually between 13-16, launch angle 12-15. im currently playing a 9degree head and wondering if I’d get more out of an 8degree head

Driver: Ping G430LST - Diamana GT 60tx

3 Wood:  TM Stealth 3W - Diamana GT 70tx

5 Wood: Ping G430 Max 5W - Tensei Pro Orange 80tx

Irons: Taylormade P770 4-PW - Modus 130s

Wedges: Vokey SM8 50.14F Modus 130x, SM9 54.12 - 58.12 - Modus 130x 

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My M5 Tour was ordered by my fitter at 7 degrees with the Shaft labels down. Once it arrived, I hit the launch monitor again to check the weights and haven’t touched it in over a year. I can’t hit anything with much more loft than that due to spin rates going up. I’m reminded of that every time I get fit.

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