New Byron Morgans

[oneaugusta]

On 12/11/2022 at 11:57 PM, daegyu said:

This thread got me feeling nostalgic. Pulled the DH89 out of my closet and took a trip down memory lane. Been gaming my 009 for a few years so I kinda lost track of my BM for a while. Going to bag this for my upcoming golf trip for old time's sake. Thanks Mr Morgan, this is quite a beauty you built. 

I never saw any difference in design/looks or felt a difference between an 89 and 009, other than a lighter wallet for the 009.  Do you all ?

[ws6]

13 hours ago, oneaugusta said:

I never saw any difference in design/looks or felt a difference between an 89 and 009, other than a lighter wallet for the 009.  Do you all ?

Agreed, no difference in design, looks or performance.  

[JunkerJorge]

15 hours ago, oneaugusta said:

I never saw any difference in design/looks or felt a difference between an 89 and 009, other than a lighter wallet for the 009.  Do you all ?

Never handled a 009 to be honest but my dh89 is superb. Always planned to have another one made with a flow neck but never got around to it. Don’t see anything out there right now that matches the 89 to my eye that is accessible to most. 

[RobotDoctor]

15 hours ago, oneaugusta said:

I never saw any difference in design/looks or felt a difference between an 89 and 009, other than a lighter wallet for the 009.  Do you all ?

There are very slight dimensional differences between the two.  Only a putter geek who studies both would know.  There have been threads here talking about them but I don't recall the exact threads.  Perhaps someone will remember or conduct a search and post the link.  That said, I love my DH89 and have had great success gaming it.  I have putted with a 009 before (not mine).  The look from address is nearly identical.  As @oneaugustasaid, the DH89 is lighter on the wallet.  I got a great deal on my DH89 GSS with long pipe neck.  I shudder to think what a 009 with the same materials and specs would have cost me.

[RobotDoctor]

4 minutes ago, JunkerJorge said:

Never handled a 009 to be honest but my dh89 is superb. Always planned to have another one made with a flow neck but never got around to it. Don’t see anything out there right now that matches the 89 to my eye that is accessible to most. 

The flow neck versions, like my DH89, are fabulous!  They are out there.  Best of luck in your quest to obtain one.

[Phabs]

I’ve had friends that have had 009’s and I owned a tour rat for 10 years before cashing out on it.  The 89 is every bit as nice just doesn’t have the clout. 

[RobotDoctor]

1 minute ago, Phabs said:

I’ve had friends that have had 009’s and I owned a tour rat for 10 years before cashing out on it.  The 89 is every bit as nice just doesn’t have the clout. 

Location: Morrison, as in Colorado?

[Phabs]

43 minutes ago, RobotDoctor said:

Location: Morrison, as in Colorado?

Correct 

[Jace_bkr]

16 hours ago, oneaugusta said:

I never saw any difference in design/looks or felt a difference between an 89 and 009, other than a lighter wallet for the 009.  Do you all ?

Have owned both & both are exceptional flatsticks. I could only notice a slight difference between the 2 in the heel/neck but they had to be side by side to distinguish.. Feel/performance wise If there were a difference I sure couldn’t distinguish. 
 

1 hour ago, JunkerJorge said:

Never handled a 009 to be honest but my dh89 is superb. Always planned to have another one made with a flow neck but never got around to it. Don’t see anything out there right now that matches the 89 to my eye that is accessible to most. 

Lamont’s (Mannkrafted) MA66 would be my recommendation if you are after something comparable to Byrons stuff nowadays 

[MattM97]

9 hours ago, Jace_bkr said:

Lamont’s (Mannkrafted) MA66 would be my recommendation if you are after something comparable to Byrons stuff nowadays 

 

I saw a post recently on the Byron Facebook page from his business partner Steve about how he got some pics of an early Swag Handsome One that seems to have some design influence from Byron. Not sure how much or if true but could be an option if you find a Gen 1/2 Swag and compare. 

Edited December 14, 2022 by MattM97

[JunkerJorge]

2 hours ago, MattM97 said:

 

I saw a post recently on the Byron Facebook page from his business partner Steve about how he got some pics of an early Swag Handsome One that seems to have some design influence from Byron. Not sure how much or if true but could be an option if you find a Gen 1/2 Swag and compare. 

I don't think I'm cool enough.

[daegyu]

On 12/13/2022 at 3:26 AM, oneaugusta said:

I never saw any difference in design/looks or felt a difference between an 89 and 009, other than a lighter wallet for the 009.  Do you all ?

 

I can definitely notice small differences between the two. The BM has softer bumpers and more rounded overall. It's the most noticeable when I look down and see the topline. The 009 topline is very leveled off while the BM looks a little rolled. I'm not sure if this is standard or if the BM got the Tai treatment, can't remember. The 009 has a slightly softer feel but I think it has to do with the milling. The BM also feels heavier but it plays 1/2" longer with just about the same head weight. 

 

 

[RobotDoctor]

14 hours ago, Phabs said:

Correct 

My wife and I moved to Florida and we will miss Red Rocks!

[Phabs]

9 hours ago, RobotDoctor said:

My wife and I moved to Florida and we will miss Red Rocks!

Wake up and look at them every morning and run it once a week in the summer 

[oneaugusta]

On 12/13/2022 at 11:18 PM, Jace_bkr said:

Have owned both & both are exceptional flatsticks. I could only notice a slight difference between the 2 in the heel/neck but they had to be side by side to distinguish.. Feel/performance wise If there were a difference I sure couldn’t distinguish. 
 

Lamont’s (Mannkrafted) MA66 would be my recommendation if you are after something comparable to Byrons stuff nowadays 

Lamont's MA66 is also a wonderful putter.

[Jace_bkr]

This one has lived a few lives & still going strong 😎. 
 

One of 25 006’s with Byrons surfboard stamping.

 

Originally a copper coated plumbers neck the owner later had converted into a flowneck and refinished black. Few rounds later it was cast aside and mothballed for 10 years 😂 .

 

After a recent “freshen up” It will soon be back in action. 

 

[daegyu]

For those of you who want to have some work done on your Byron's, where do you send them in now that the BM shop is closed? I've had BOS do some work on my Scotty's, considering going with them for my Byron now. 

[MattM97]

55 minutes ago, daegyu said:

For those of you who want to have some work done on your Byron's, where do you send them in now that the BM shop is closed? I've had BOS do some work on my Scotty's, considering going with them for my Byron now. 

 

Byron's former partner has been sending a lot of heads into BOS lately for a few of their finishes. 

[Jace_bkr]

13 hours ago, daegyu said:

For those of you who want to have some work done on your Byron's, where do you send them in now that the BM shop is closed? I've had BOS do some work on my Scotty's, considering going with them for my Byron now. 

 

What type of work? If it's just a Refinish BOS is a great choice...  

[Medson]

On 12/13/2022 at 3:26 AM, oneaugusta said:

I never saw any difference in design/looks or felt a difference between an 89 and 009, other than a lighter wallet for the 009.  Do you all ?

https://www.golfwrx.com/46467/scotty-cameron-009-vs-byron-morgan-dh89/
 

old thread 

[JunkerJorge]

The real question is, what is the origin of the 009/DH89?? 🤐

[daegyu]

2 hours ago, Jace_bkr said:

 

What type of work? If it's just a Refinish BOS is a great choice...  

Yeah mostly for a refinish, maybe get lie/loft adjusted. Nothing major. 

[dwboston]

24 minutes ago, JunkerJorge said:

The real question is, what is the origin of the 009/DH89?? 🤐

 

Yeah, where did Don get that CAD file for the 009?  😉

[JunkerJorge]

21 minutes ago, dwboston said:

 

Yeah, where did Don get that CAD file for the 009?  😉

 

this. Right? Right? 

[Jace_bkr]

43 minutes ago, JunkerJorge said:

 

this. Right? Right? 

 

Hey, It’s on the internet & Don T never told a story  😂

Edited December 21, 2022 by Jace_bkr

[JunkerJorge]

1 hour ago, Jace_bkr said:

 

Hey, It’s on the internet & Don T never told a story  😂

To be fair, it is interesting phrasing. "When I did this putter."

[towncryer]

On 12/13/2022 at 5:26 AM, oneaugusta said:

I never saw any difference in design/looks or felt a difference between an 89 and 009, other than a lighter wallet for the 009.  Do you all ?

 

I owned a DH89 that I had Byron make about...oh...five years ago and I own a 009m now.

 

Functionally and performance wise...identical. 

 

The 009m CNC program Don runs is exquisite. The subtle milling patterns on the putter are pretty striking and I think I much prefer the look of a 009m to the DH89. I think if you showed someone blank, unstamped, raw stainless 009m heads next to DH89 heads, most people would gravitate towards the 009m. 

 

However...the handcrafted look/feel of every Byron I've ever seen warms my heart. He was truly a talented and thoughtful craftsman. I deeply regret selling my DH89. 

 

[Jace_bkr]

1 hour ago, towncryer said:

Functionally and performance wise...identical. 

 

all I could think about when I read this 😂😂

 

[JunkerJorge]

1 hour ago, towncryer said:

 

I owned a DH89 that I had Byron make about...oh...five years ago and I own a 009m now.

 

Functionally and performance wise...identical. 

 

The 009m CNC program Don runs is exquisite. The subtle milling patterns on the putter are pretty striking and I think I much prefer the look of a 009m to the DH89. I think if you showed someone blank, unstamped, raw stainless 009m heads next to DH89 heads, most people would gravitate towards the 009m. 

 

However...the handcrafted look/feel of every Byron I've ever seen warms my heart. He was truly a talented and thoughtful craftsman. I deeply regret selling my DH89. 

 

I think you nailed it. I doubt there is much if any difference in performance between the two (or between an old Ping anser for that matter). Once you are in the milled putter space you are pretty much talking about less tangible and more subjective features like aesthetics, craftsmanship, and branding. Basically how it makes you feel. I think both makers are masters in their own niches. 

[dwboston]

2 hours ago, JunkerJorge said:

To be fair, it is interesting phrasing. "When I did this putter."

 

I'm not talking about the 009M, which is an update of the 009.  I'm referring to the "original" 009.  It doesn't matter at this point.

 

Those Cameron videos where he prattles on about his "inspirations" never fail to make me laugh.  The peak (or nadir) of those was the Japan museum/gallery one.  Even Don was embarrassed by that one, which is saying something.