Tour Callaway Paradym driver - 2022 QBE Shootout

[TheMoneyShot]

22 minutes ago, Avidswampthing66 said:

Stock set up for TD goes 14G front, 2G rear off the shelf or to your door.  Folks have been liking switching the weights to gain more spin and a little higher launch.  I def noticed a difference.  Billy Bobs offers weights if you want to dial it in further.

Do you know if they offer a full weight kit option like Titleist?

Edited January 20, 2023 by TheMoneyShot

[Avidswampthing66]

6 minutes ago, TheMoneyShot said:

Do you know if they offer a full weight kit option like Titleist

Not via CallawayI  Besides a tour van buddy or a rep, you can go the Billy Bobs route.   The same weights are in Rogue St and Maverick heads as well.

Edited January 20, 2023 by Avidswampthing66

[UnderPar18]

On 1/19/2023 at 9:03 AM, callawayjay said:

Im talking about throttling the above tour average swing speed and focus on something repetitive and less intense. 
 

my greatest golf lesson I ever witnessed was a good 18 years ago when I had more speed, my buddies and I always played $100 nassaus and this particular day the head pros daughter was joining us.  She was a sophomore at Wichita St.  Upon learning of our game she said “I’ll play, and I’ll play back with you(from the tips)”

 

I live in texas, it was really windy and as my and my 2 buddies try to muscle 3 woods OB on 495 par 4 approaches, she methodically dinks it to 80 yards, then to 2 feet, then a putt for par. 
 

all 3 of us payed her $300 each. I specifically remember because I had to write a check. 
 

my short game got way better going forward. 
 

distance is king but putting and chipping is what makes the pros their living. 

I get the moral of the story here, but lets face it pros need a total package in order to compete on tour. Having a really good short game and not gaining strokes in the remaining categories will result in a subpar year on tour or losing your tour card

[Ex Blade User]

6 hours ago, Wardonation said:

Kai'li in "TX" is the premium offering in the whole line. Tighter tolerances lower torque.

Mitsubishi stated the different flexes are all the same materials. Obviously the TX has lower torque so more prepreg in the tip I’m guessing. I have the white in tx now and that thing is low spin but feels awesome. Got the x TD so hoping it will add a hair spin to the reportedly low spin of the head. Pretty psyched. 

Edited January 21, 2023 by Ex Blade User

[goheels11]

On 1/14/2023 at 6:57 PM, SwingBlues said:

 

What loft & where was the heavier weight, front or back? Yeah, Paradym 3D is definitely low spin, should loft up by the sounds of things from other golfers who tested the head

Weight was 14 front and 2 back. Duh!  Can’t believe I didn’t check that once I saw the flight.  Looking forward to trying it again adjusted. 

[Callaway Staffer]

22 hours ago, Cyride said:

Wonder why a lot of the tour heads appear to be a different shade of blue and black.  Maybe I am just seeing things.

It depends on how much shading, overcast, and/or (sun)light is present when the picture or video was taken, and if a flash was used (or what aperture setting was used in the camera) during taking of the picture. In shade, overcast, or indoors without direct bright light the drivers will look pure black. If under direct sunlight, or bright light you will see more blue. The camo like pattern on the bottom actually shifts too if you move the driver while standing in place. If you haven't seen the driver head in person you should. As many have already said pictures don't do it justice, and its best looking in person.

 

 

19 hours ago, UnderPar18 said:

Curious but when the TD gets delivered to the customer or the customer takes it off the shelf, is the heavier weight in the front or the back and what are the two stock weights. I ask because most videos i have seen the spin is on the lower side and i was wondering if that's with the weight in the front and not giving a fair representation of how most consumers would want the weight in the back. 

 

If the weight is in the back has any explored with a heavier back weight and if so did you gain enough height or spin back?

 

Some people swear they see a difference. Out on the course I haven't seen enough of a change to call it significant for me. If you read on Callaway and a few other websites it says swapping the 14 gram and 2 gram weights accounts for a 250 rpm spin difference. To me that isn't as significant as turning up or down the loft a degree (which accounts for 400-500 rpm). 

I've experimented with different combinations of the 14 gram, 2 gram, and an 8 gram weight I have. For me I've determined I like the 14 gram weight forward, and 2 gram weight back (as it comes from Callaway) best.

If you have access to a decent launch monitor that gives accurate spin rate readings then getting fit using that is the best way to find what settings you should use. Start by getting the loft right to get you in the general area of what spin rate you need, and fine tune it with the weight positions at the end (if needed).

Most people can't consistently control their spin within 250 rpm shot after shot...

Theoretically you could put the heavy weight in the back if you're playing a course with wet fairways, and forward when playing on windy days to tweak things in your favor under those conditions.

Edited January 21, 2023 by Callaway Staffer

[getair23]

16 hours ago, Avidswampthing66 said:

Not via CallawayI  Besides a tour van buddy or a rep, you can go the Billy Bobs route.   The same weights are in Rogue St and Maverick heads as well.

Will they use different weights if you order shorter than standard 45.75”? 

[Golf Scientist]

1 hour ago, getair23 said:

Will they use different weights if you order shorter than standard 45.75”? 

Depends where you buy from. If you buy directly from Callaway, through one of their reps or fitters, from a place that places the order directly through one of the reps, or through Callaway's ordering system you can tell you want swing weight maintained. If you order from some other website, or place who places their special orders through their corporate people (like Dicks Sporting Goods and Golf Galaxy) who then go and place it with Callaway (using a middleman who usually know nothing about golf, don't play, and probably deal mainly in footwear or ski department orders) for your order then all bets are off on what you might get...

Edited January 21, 2023 by Golf Scientist

[halfsumo]

2 hours ago, Callaway Staffer said:

It depends on how much shading, overcast, and/or (sun)light is present when the picture or video was taken, and if a flash was used (or what aperture setting was used in the camera) during taking of the picture. In shade, overcast, or indoors without direct bright light the drivers will look pure black. If under direct sunlight, or bright light you will see more blue. The camo like pattern on the bottom actually shifts too if you move the driver while standing in place. If you haven't seen the driver head in person you should. As many have already said pictures don't do it justice, and its best looking in person.

 

 

Some people swear they see a difference. Out on the course I haven't seen enough of a change to call it significant for me. If you read on Callaway and a few other websites it says swapping the 14 gram and 2 gram weights accounts for a 250 rpm spin difference. To me that isn't as significant as turning up or down the loft a degree (which accounts for 400-500 rpm). 

I've experimented with different combinations of the 14 gram, 2 gram, and an 8 gram weight I have. For me I've determined I like the 14 gram weight forward, and 2 gram weight back (as it comes from Callaway) best.

If you have access to a decent launch monitor that gives accurate spin rate readings then getting fit using that is the best way to find what settings you should use. Start by getting the loft right to get you in the general area of what spin rate you need, and fine tune it with the weight positions at the end (if needed).

Most people can't consistently control their spin within 250 rpm shot after shot...

Theoretically you could put the heavy weight in the back if you're playing a course with wet fairways, and forward when playing on windy days to tweak things in your favor under those conditions.

Did you notice a change in sound and feel when swapping the weights?

[Callaway Staffer]

6 hours ago, halfsumo said:

Did you notice a change in sound and feel when swapping the weights?

I didn't notice a change in sound, but I thought I noticed a difference in feel. I feel like with the 14 gram weight forward and the 2 gram weight in the back I felt the ball compressing and springing off the face more. It could have been my imagination. I plan to go back to that setting for my round tomorrow, and see if it gives me the same sensation again... 

[Mp14forlife]

Just got done at PGA superstore. Hit the standard paradym and triple diamond. The standard paradym I tried in a bunch of different combos, high loft, then tuning it down, low loft etc...it's a solid club and it is a touch longer and a little faster ball speed than my sim max. All in all a good club but I prob wouldn't upgrade from my sim max.

 

Now, the triple diamond is a fun club, tried it in the low lofts and it cruises 5 mph faster ball speed than my sim but it was too wild. I then tried it in the 10.5 and it was pretty dang good and consistent and about 12-15 yds longer than my sim max. Two weeks ago, I was averaging 162 ball speed with my sim max, it's winter and haven't hit much but normally I'm mid 160s. I hit a handful at 170 with the TD paradym. Averaged near 167 ball speed. So I'd say it's about 3-5 mph faster than og sim max and 10 -15 yds longer distance. Has me thinking! Lol  all were hit with a prov1x

Edited January 22, 2023 by Mp14forlife

[TheMoneyShot]

15 minutes ago, Mp14forlife said:

Just got done at PGA superstore. Hit the standard paradym and triple diamond. The standard paradym I tried in a bunch of different combos, high loft, then tuning it down, low loft etc...it's a solid club and it is a touch longer and a little faster ball speed than my sim max. All in all a good club but I prob wouldn't upgrade from my sim max.

 

Now, the triple diamond is a fun club, tried it in the low lofts and it cruises 5 mph faster ball speed than my sim but it was too wild. I then tried it in the 10.5 and it was pretty dang good and consistent and about 12-15 yds longer than my sim max. Two weeks ago, I was averaging 162 ball speed with my sim max, it's winter and haven't hit much but normally I'm mid 160s. I hit a handful at 170 with the TD paradym. Averaged near 167 ball speed. So I'd say it's about 3-5 mph faster than og sim max and 10 -15 yds longer distance. Has me thinking! Lol  all were hit with a prov1x

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Just buy it😜

[Wardonation]

It seems that this driver line is lower launching than last years? Can anyone confirm?

[Double Mocha Man]

There was no Paradym last year...

[SaVo_]

well, ladies and gentleman. Another win for the Paradym in the books

Edited January 23, 2023 by SaVo_

[Ex Blade User]

22 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

There was no Paradym last year...

Ummmm duh

[Double Mocha Man]

20 minutes ago, Ex Blade User said:

Ummmm duh

 

You gotta read more posts than just mine...

[Ex Blade User]

Just now, Double Mocha Man said:

 

You gotta read more posts than just mine...

I spend way too much time here as it is lol

[Double Mocha Man]

1 minute ago, Ex Blade User said:

I spend way too much time here as it is lol

 

My post, obviously, was in response to a guy talking about last year's Paradym.

[bcflyguy1]

50 minutes ago, SaVo_ said:

well, ladies and gentleman. Another win for the Paradym in the books

3 in 3 starts, and 3 of top 4 spots this week. Staff is on a heater.

 

Odyssey with 7 putters in the top 10.

Edited January 23, 2023 by bcflyguy1

[Ex Blade User]

46 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

My post, obviously, was in response to a guy talking about last year's Paradym.

He obviously meant last years model, which was rogue. 

[solarsaurusrexx09]

Anyone who thinks they need a premium priced shaft should take a look at Rahm. Dude has dominated with the Tour Green.  I’ve played the same shaft for years because of my love for the Aldila NV Green.  NV Green always reminds of my favorite time for golf equipment (2004-2008.) Tour Green was a great fit for me but recently went Hulk Green. Also, Paradym might replace my OG Sim..

[halfsumo]

2 hours ago, solarsaurusrexx09 said:

Anyone who thinks they need a premium priced shaft should take a look at Rahm. Dude has dominated with the Tour Green.  I’ve played the same shaft for years because of my love for the Aldila NV Green.  NV Green always reminds of my favorite time for golf equipment (2004-2008.) Tour Green was a great fit for me but recently went Hulk Green. Also, Paradym might replace my OG Sim..

I get what you’re saying. The Tour Green was a $400 shaft when it first came out if I remember correctly, though. Great bargain today. 

[Bskib]

11 hours ago, bcflyguy1 said:

3 in 3 starts, and 3 of top 4 spots this week. Staff is on a heater.

 

Odyssey with 7 putters in the top 10.

Do we really think these guys won because of their paradym drivers? Or did they win because they executed better than everyone else and just were better that week than the field? Snake oil salesman (the trotties and Johnny wonders of the world) will claim its all because of their new products. 
 

The hype beast marketing machine of golf is really starting to get old. Especially now that OEMs are using influencers more and more. 

[vman]

9 minutes ago, Bskib said:

Do we really think these guys won because of their paradym drivers? Or did they win because they executed better than everyone else and just were better that week than the field? Snake oil salesman (the trotties and Johnny wonders of the world) will claim its all because of their new products. 
 

The hype beast marketing machine of golf is really starting to get old. Especially now that OEMs are using influencers more and more. 

Definitely the driver. They've shifted the Paradym.

[Bskib]

3 minutes ago, vman said:

Definitely the driver. They've shifted the Paradym.

Riiiiiiiiiiight lol

[bcflyguy1]

1 hour ago, Bskib said:

Do we really think these guys won because of their paradym drivers? Or did they win because they executed better than everyone else and just were better that week than the field? Snake oil salesman (the trotties and Johnny wonders of the world) will claim its all because of their new products. 
 

The hype beast marketing machine of golf is really starting to get old. Especially now that OEMs are using influencers more and more. 

Merely a statement of fact, not an assertion of causation.

 

I wouldn’t want to play Rahm for money if he was using my kids’ junior set and Top Rocks. Don’t care what the OWGR says, Rahm is the best player in the world right now. Just so happens he’s got new woods in the bag.

 

Having said that, I got the fun opportunity to fit a mini-tour player who was playing the TSi3 driver. The results with PTD were significantly improved, to say the least, and I’ll leave it at that.

 

 

Edited January 23, 2023 by bcflyguy1

[Bskib]

2 minutes ago, bcflyguy1 said:

Merely a statement of fact, not an assertion of causation.

 

I wouldn’t want to play Rahm for money if he was using my kids’ junior set and Top Rocks. Don’t care what the OWGR says, Rahm is the best player in the world right now. Just so happens he’s got new woods in the bag.

 

Having said that, I got the fun opportunity to fit a mini-tour player who was playing the TSi3 driver. The results were significant, to say the least, and I’ll leave it at that.

 

 

I think its reasonable to say Rahm could be playing with two years ago equipment right now and still be beating everyone.  Talent is talent.  Sincerely doubt he is hot now because he has new woods in his hands.  Maybe I just need to delete my instagram and all the marketing trash will just fly over my head!

 

I am certainly not anti-callaway.  I just appreciate how the Srixons and the Pings of the world go about their business. 

 

At the end of the day, I may end up with a Callaway driver in my hands.  But it won't be because an influencer jumps on the gram 20 minutes after the tournament ended touting their guy.  

[Ex Blade User]

1 hour ago, Bskib said:

Do we really think these guys won because of their paradym drivers? Or did they win because they executed better than everyone else and just were better that week than the field? Snake oil salesman (the trotties and Johnny wonders of the world) will claim its all because of their new products. 
 

The hype beast marketing machine of golf is really starting to get old. Especially now that OEMs are using influencers more and more. 

It’s definitely the driver. That’s why I NEED one. 
 

influencers are what is wrong with society today. Get off my lawn

Edited January 23, 2023 by Ex Blade User

[Avidswampthing66]

36 minutes ago, Ex Blade User said:

It’s definitely the driver. That’s why I NEED one. 
 

influencers are what is wrong with society today. Get off my lawn

Just the word "influencer" makes me cringe.  I'm so hip and worldly, insert awesome OEM driver, back to pseudo spiritual urban lingo and looking cool playing golf in Peru.

Edited January 23, 2023 by Avidswampthing66