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10 hours ago, roundersmitty said:

Bobby Grace and Nation Custom Works did inserts to aid in off centre hits. Nothing really new. 

 

I don't think NCW ever had that on their putters. Unless I missed something cause I follow them closely. 

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32 minutes ago, dmecca2 said:

Isn't this just a weighting thing? Lighter vs. heavier?

 

Not with the AI it's more the face and if you look on the Odyssey page for each putter line you'll notice the back of the insert looks like to Topography map. So certain spots are "hotter" for miss hits to get the ball to roll to the hole better vs a face that is even. 

 

It's nothing new in putters, but maybe after a version or two it will be better than others with the use of AI, just look at their drivers since they introduced the AI Face in the Epic Flash to now. 

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12 minutes ago, MattM97 said:

 

Not with the AI it's more the face and if you look on the Odyssey page for each putter line you'll notice the back of the insert looks like to Topography map. So certain spots are "hotter" for miss hits to get the ball to roll to the hole better vs a face that is even. 

 

It's nothing new in putters, but maybe after a version or two it will be better than others with the use of AI, just look at their drivers since they introduced the AI Face in the Epic Flash to now. 

I've seen them. But it's just a gimmick. Their blades are coming in at 360g instead of a classic 340-350. So they're comparing against a putter that is lighter.... That's it. It's just an MOI difference.

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3 minutes ago, dmecca2 said:

I've seen them. But it's just a gimmick. Their blades are coming in at 360g instead of a classic 340-350. So they're comparing against a putter that is lighter.... That's it. It's just an MOI difference.

 

Their One and Two are 355g and they have these magical removable weights to make them 340-350g if one wishes to fit the putter better to them, plus nothing weighs 340g anymore for stock putters and 5-10g isn't going to make a difference on the MOI by much. 

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2 hours ago, dmecca2 said:

I've seen them. But it's just a gimmick. Their blades are coming in at 360g instead of a classic 340-350. So they're comparing against a putter that is lighter.... That's it. It's just an MOI difference.

This is quite the take right here.

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1 minute ago, MattM97 said:

 

Everything people don't understand is either a gimmick or fake these days. 

So odyssey adds a tiny bit of material in the insert and markets it as 21% better and everyone thinks that it's the best thing since sliced bread??? Does every new driver add 5 more yards too? I'm over the golf marketing BS where every new product is whatever % better and you need to buy it.

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2 hours ago, dmecca2 said:

I've seen them. But it's just a gimmick. Their blades are coming in at 360g instead of a classic 340-350. So they're comparing against a putter that is lighter.... That's it. It's just an MOI difference.

 

I understand your skepticism, but I have one in my hands right now and what they say is true... not just a self-fulfilling prophesy.  Every once in awhile technology breaks a barrier.

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4 minutes ago, dmecca2 said:

So odyssey adds a tiny bit of material in the insert and markets it as 21% better and everyone thinks that it's the best thing since sliced bread??? Does every new driver add 5 more yards too? I'm over the golf marketing BS where every new product is whatever % better and you need to buy it.

 

Not 21% better but 21% closer to the hole according to their site, people still have to make the putt but miss hits are not as punished, that's what they are trying to do. They are trying to improve miss hits for golfers which everyone has, if their face leaves someone with a 2ft tap in instead of a 4ft knee knocker then that's a better putter. 

 

And again they are not the first to do or claim this, this has been the whole point behind Evnroll, they are just doing it different and better imo since the putter still feels responsive. 

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27 minutes ago, dmecca2 said:

MOI is definitely a real thing. No denying that. But it's not a new thing

Their ai insert has nothing to do with MOI. If you’re arguing the only reason the putter did better than the Scotty is entirely down to MOI - not sure what to say. I’m seeing better results with the Ai one doublewide than the trihot doublewide and I’m pretty sure the trihot is higher MOI. Like I said above, I’d love to see a robot test difference between ai one and trihot in the same putter head design. 

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40 minutes ago, dmecca2 said:

MOI is definitely a real thing. No denying that. But it's not a new thing

 

Nobody is talking about MOI.  And in this case the change in MOI is negligible.  This is a a change across the putter insert, not really MOI.

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15 minutes ago, Medson said:

Has anyone benchmarked Odyssey Ai-ONE against similarly claimed Envroll, Bobby Grace's & even Ping's variable depth technology? 

 

These tech essentially claim the same thing that is off center hits do not lose as much distance as the non-tech putters. 

 

The last time I owned an Evnroll it claimed the face self-corrected for putts starting left or right of your intended line.  I don't remember it addressing the distance control issue.

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23 minutes ago, noodle3872 said:

 

So the highest MOI mallet of the 3 performed the worst. Someone hold dmecca2.

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3 minutes ago, coreyhr said:

So the highest MOI mallet of the 3 performed the worst. Someone hold dmecca2.

 

But still a gimmick apparently even though that test shows 50% better. 

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15 hours ago, roundersmitty said:

Bobby Grace and Nation Custom Works did inserts to aid in off centre hits. Nothing really new. 

Evnroll as well.

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