Odyssey Ai-ONE: the real deal..?

[Mr. Grumpy]

I rolled several of the milled shapes today. Really nice for a mass production putter at almost custom prices. The insert looks the part and the milling is nicely done. The dark navy is close to black and the warm titanium insert looks like copper. Distance control with no pressure on the box store synthetic green was good. Hard to describe but I think I could feel and notice a difference on strike, but most of the balls ended up grouped together. I did not hole out any more than the Mizuno M Craft which was really nice feeling, but the dispersion front and back of the hole was wider. I see the Odyssey as a putter that will likely help to minimize the 3 putt from long distance. A dud for me was the Bettinardi QB. Stock specs had the ball skipping on take off with a harsh feeling. 

Not to derail, but the surprise putter for me today was the SeeMore M7 Tour offset. It felt super sweet across the face and was accurate and easy to roll. It's a really nice putter. 

[Double Mocha Man]

1 hour ago, 5hort5tuff said:

I had a chance to roll these day at Golftown.  They are so very similar to last years Odyssey release. They are obviously blue, but very similar. The are good quality no doubt. 

 

I found they all sat very flat in terms if lie angle.  What really bothered me was the fact that you can see the white face insert very clearly at address. Not sure if this is by design...or maybe they are slightly higher loft.

 

They are the average 3 degrees of loft.  And yes, you can see a sliver of the insert, which actually serves as another alignment aid.

 

And the lie angle on the Ai ONE putters is the standard 70 degrees.

 

I think most people are missing the point.  The Ai is a very miniscule part of this putter, but for the length of the insert you won't lose or pick up any extra distance by hitting the ball toward the heel or toe.  That is a major concept.

 

Oh, and these metal drivers will never work out; we'll be back to wood/persimmon in no time.

[Avidswampthing66]

Milled 3T DB has my full attention, if I could just get the blade top line only and not the stripe down the back!

[5hort5tuff]

1 hour ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

They are the average 3 degrees of loft.  And yes, you can see a sliver of the insert, which actually serves as another alignment aid.

 

And the lie angle on the Ai ONE putters is the standard 70 degrees.

 

I think most people are missing the point.  The Ai is a very miniscule part of this putter, but for the length of the insert you won't lose or pick up any extra distance by hitting the ball toward the heel or toe.  That is a major concept.

 

Oh, and these metal drivers will never work out; we'll be back to wood/persimmon in no time.

 

The point being Odyssey has done something that isn't really much different than what other companies have done/are doing with various milling/inserts. 

They are stamping the whole AI label and running with that ad campaign.

 

To each their own no doubt, but there is more tech in a $150 cleveland frontline 2.0....and that one uses a milled face insert. 

Edited November 15, 2023 by 5hort5tuff

[5hort5tuff]

1 hour ago, Mr. Grumpy said:

I rolled several of the milled shapes today. Really nice for a mass production putter at almost custom prices. The insert looks the part and the milling is nicely done. The dark navy is close to black and the warm titanium insert looks like copper. Distance control with no pressure on the box store synthetic green was good. Hard to describe but I think I could feel and notice a difference on strike, but most of the balls ended up grouped together. I did not hole out any more than the Mizuno M Craft which was really nice feeling, but the dispersion front and back of the hole was wider. I see the Odyssey as a putter that will likely help to minimize the 3 putt from long distance. A dud for me was the Bettinardi QB. Stock specs had the ball skipping on take off with a harsh feeling. 

Not to derail, but the surprise putter for me today was the SeeMore M7 Tour offset. It felt super sweet across the face and was accurate and easy to roll. It's a really nice putter. 

 

Seemore makes really great putters. They don't have the cool branding or advertisement budget that the big companies have though.  

[Double Mocha Man]

13 minutes ago, 5hort5tuff said:

 

The point being Odyssey has done something that isn't really much different than what other companies have done/are doing with various milling/inserts. 

They are stamping the whole AI label and running with that ad campaign.

 

To each their own no doubt, but there is more tech in a $150 cleveland frontline 2.0....and that one uses a milled face insert. 

 

It doesn't seem different, but it is different... in a big way.  I've been using this putter for almost a week now and it's amazing what it does for distance control. 

 

I've owned an Evnroll before and it was not close (pun intended), in terms of distance control, as this putter.  I rarely have any problems with reading a putt or stroking it on the correct line.  My nemesis has been getting the correct distance, but now that has been solved no matter where on the face the ball is struck. 

 

All of us do not hit the center of the face every time.  This Ai-ONE removes that as an issue.

 

I'm in marketing and advertising and if this was marketing hype I'd be the first one to call Odyssey out on it.  Don't demean new technology until you've tried it.

[5hort5tuff]

12 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

I'm in marketing and advertising and if this was marketing hype I'd be the first one to call Odyssey out on it.  Don't demean new technology until you've tried it.

I'm just not certain we will ever agree on the term "New Technology" in this case.  

 

All good man, enjoy the putter, I have it sinks many for you.

Edited November 15, 2023 by 5hort5tuff

[BHI 99]

10 hours ago, MattM97 said:

Plus how many people actually practice putting? Let’s be honest people are ripping driver on the range.

I do.
2023 has been insane for me, so my golf has been relegated to the practice green. An hour a day, 3-4 days a week minimum plus the practice mat in my garage. My putters are a NP2 and OG7CH. I’m a die hard for the NP2 and have been for years, but the OG7CH spanks it silly. I don’t know how such an ugly f’n putter can put such a good roll on a ball, but it does. I use a line completely around my practice balls and there’s no just question. The more I try to hate the Odyssey, the more putts that fall. Whatever the AI “improvement” is, has got to just more of a good thing. 

[Mr. Grumpy]

12 hours ago, 5hort5tuff said:

I'm just not certain we will ever agree on the term "New Technology" in this case.  

 

All good man, enjoy the putter, I have it sinks many for you.

No denying that it's not new tech, just executed a different way. I do think it works, and has been somewhat successful in other putters, but it won't make more putts for you. No easy or AI fix for putts in the hole, but I do think this latest tech will certainly help. 

[Double Mocha Man]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Grumpy said:

No denying that it's not new tech, just executed a different way. I do think it works, and has been somewhat successful in other putters, but it won't make more putts for you. No easy or AI fix for putts in the hole, but I do think this latest tech will certainly help. 

 

I shouldn't have said "new"  technology. It's relatively old technology employed in a new way.

[Go_Blue!]

These feel and roll very nice (milled). The Eight T is a great looking putter and performs. Very stable. 

[iNeedMoreGolf]

I didnt think the milled or insert felt any different from each other.

[Double Mocha Man]

2 hours ago, iNeedMoreGolf said:

I didnt think the milled or insert felt any different from each other.

 

The milled Ai ONE is in how they formed the head.  The inset is a whole 'nother thing.

 

Just as an update.  I've now stroked about 500 putts with the Ai ONE inset... practice green, upstairs study and on the course.  In the past if I mis-hit (off dead center) a 35-40 foot putt I knew it was going to come up short, so I just turned and looked away.  I still do this but now, when I look back at the hole, the putt has cozied up next to it.  Magic.  Dark blue PVD magic.

[I'_rather_be_golfing]

On 11/14/2023 at 7:54 PM, 5hort5tuff said:

I'm just not certain we will ever agree on the term "New Technology" in this case.  

 

All good man, enjoy the putter, I have it sinks many for you.

I think we are all at a point now where words like “new technology” should be taken with a grain of salt. It’s either gonna be “I love this putter” or “I don’t love this putter”. Don’t try and sell me on the technology. My hands, eyes, and feel will determine that for me. 

[iNeedMoreGolf]

Ok has anyone ever had a putter that was ok from mid range.. bad at long range and terrible at short range? Usually the terrible at short range means the putts for whatever reason come off too fast and theres no touch... so my point is.. i get the long putts are supposed to make it closer to the hole now but is that because the ball rolls hotter now? Which would make short Putts also roll hotter which i hate. Just a theory. I also think putts low off the face is what matters more in distance control not putts left and right on face.

[Double Mocha Man]

4 hours ago, I'_rather_be_golfing said:

Don’t try and sell me on the technology. My hands, eyes, and feel will determine that for me. 

 

Agreed. The bottom line is performance. But if you don't understand the technology and you don't try the technology you'll never know the outcome of the technology... and how much better you could have been.

[BHI 99]

3 hours ago, iNeedMoreGolf said:

Ok has anyone ever had a putter that was ok from mid range.. bad at long range and terrible at short range? Usually the terrible at short range means the putts for whatever reason come off too fast and theres no touch... so my point is.. i get the long putts are supposed to make it closer to the hole now but is that because the ball rolls hotter now? Which would make short Putts also roll hotter which i hate. Just a theory. I also think putts low off the face is what matters more in distance control not putts left and right on face.

Could be “hotter” off the face, but I don’t believe people spend as much time getting a putter to balance in a way that suits their stroke/preference as they should.  
 

 

[Double Mocha Man]

3 hours ago, iNeedMoreGolf said:

i get the long putts are supposed to make it closer to the hole now but is that because the ball rolls hotter now? Which would make short Putts also roll hotter which i hate. Just a theory. I also think putts low off the face is what matters more in distance control not putts left and right on face.

 

I get that it sounds like I'm trying to sell these Odyssey Ai ONE putters, but I'm not. If I ever end up in competition with any of you I don't want you using it. 😄

 

The AI insert is built such that it is equally responsive across the face, high, low, left, right. With mine, now at 500 or so putts, I have not experienced any hot spots on the face, at any length of putt.

[Mobert19]

21 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

The milled Ai ONE is in how they formed the head.  The inset is a whole 'nother thing.

 

Just as an update.  I've now stroked about 500 putts with the Ai ONE inset... practice green, upstairs study and on the course.  In the past if I mis-hit (off dead center) a 35-40 foot putt I knew it was going to come up short, so I just turned and looked away.  I still do this but now, when I look back at the hole, the putt has cozied up next to it.  Magic.  Dark blue PVD magic.

which putters have you used recently so we can compare

[Mobert19]

I don't see these available in stores near me in S. Fla, are they online order only?

[Double Mocha Man]

1 minute ago, Mobert19 said:

I don't see these available in stores near me in S. Fla, are they online order only?

 

They were just released November 3rd... so they may not be in some stores yet.

[Double Mocha Man]

10 minutes ago, Mobert19 said:

which putters have you used recently so we can compare

 

Most recently an Odyssey O-Works #7 Tank, and an Odyssey Metal #9.  Otherwise Pings, Taylormade, Evnroll, See-More.  My nemesis has almost always been distance control.

[PutterPro]

On 11/13/2023 at 10:32 AM, Double Mocha Man said:

 

Nobody is talking about MOI.  And in this case the change in MOI is negligible.  This is a a change across the putter insert, not really MOI.

Are these not the same thing? Doesn’t a high MOI help with off centered hits?  Which is exactly what the new AI line is claiming? 
 

I would definitely love to see how the AI double wide compares against the 5k double in a robot test. All in due time I’m sure… 

[dmecca2]

7 hours ago, PutterPro said:

Are these not the same thing? Doesn’t a high MOI help with off centered hits?  Which is exactly what the new AI line is claiming? 
 

I would definitely love to see how the AI double wide compares against the 5k double in a robot test. All in due time I’m sure… 

Yes. They are adding weight in different areas across the face insert to improve moi on off center hits. Then comparing the results against putters with completely different moi to get the results they want. Now everyone is in their honeymoon phase with the putter. Is it still a solid putter? Probably. Looks to be built well, shapes and necks are popular, and the insert has the feel they are looking for. Is it game changing technology and will it suddenly make you a good putter? no

[5hort5tuff]

On 11/13/2023 at 1:01 PM, hammergolf said:

Evnroll as well.

 

Cleveland aswell. 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

On 11/13/2023 at 11:49 AM, dmecca2 said:

MOI is definitely a real thing. No denying that. But it's not a new thing

This right here says you haven't even read their "marketing" as you call it, and have no understanding of what technology they are touting.   Just a flat naysayer without taking the time to understand.   

[AzSuperHack76]

Love my Three T S, first round is in the books. No three putts, great distance control, and the feel is amazing. 

 

Only complaint is the shaft sticker is cheap, already peeling back after 18 holes. 

[roundersmitty]

9 minutes ago, AzSuperHack76 said:

 

 

Only complaint is the shaft sticker is cheap, already peeling back after 18 holes. 

I guess Odyssey put more money into the R and D of the putter and none in the sticker. 

[AzSuperHack76]

23 minutes ago, roundersmitty said:

I guess Odyssey put more money into the R and D of the putter and none in the sticker. 

Clearly it’s cosmetic, it’s a cheap sticker and it looks like crap now that it’s peeling after 18 holes. I was just kind of surprised that’s all, to create such an amazing head then slap on a cheap sticker….

[Double Mocha Man]

28 minutes ago, AzSuperHack76 said:

Clearly it’s cosmetic, it’s a cheap sticker and it looks like crap now that it’s peeling after 18 holes. I was just kind of surprised that’s all, to create such an amazing head then slap on a cheap sticker….

 

It must have something to do with the way it's going in and out of your bag.  Or the clubs next to it rubbing it as they go into or out of the slot.  Peel that puppy all the way off and apply some rubbing alcohol to remove any remaining residue gumminess.  I've had mine for over a week and that was not a problem, though for a cleaner look I'll probably remove it anyway.