Tiger Woods WITB: Shot at the 2014 Farmers Insurance Open

[punchdrunk]

I don't want to start up a huge Tiger conspiracy theory but it almost looks like the "grooves" on the one could just be paint.

[knock it close]

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[quote name='Jrose' timestamp='1390427601' post='8511395']
Is the BB 103 new for the driver this year? Wasn't it an 83 WB last year?
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He said he was able to go heavier because he's healed up now. It seems like he's fully committed for accuracy off the tee vs. distance. It's the new 2.0 head with his old reliable shaft in it.
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I thought the 83 wb was the old reliable or did he play the BB 103 in his driver in the past?
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The 103 was his old reliable before he blew out his ACL. He needed to generate more speed and needed the spin to fly the ball. That's why he switched to GD for a few years.
[/quote] He has never used a 103 bb in his driver until recently, always used a 73wb

[tommy89]

Why are there two dots in the tick of his 56?

[tbowles411]

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[quote name='Jrose' timestamp='1390429346' post='8511581']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390428074' post='8511443']
[quote name='Jrose' timestamp='1390427601' post='8511395']
Is the BB 103 new for the driver this year? Wasn't it an 83 WB last year?
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He said he was able to go heavier because he's healed up now. It seems like he's fully committed for accuracy off the tee vs. distance. It's the new 2.0 head with his old reliable shaft in it.
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I thought the 83 wb was the old reliable or did he play the BB 103 in his driver in the past?
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The 103 was his old reliable before he blew out his ACL. He needed to generate more speed and needed the spin to fly the ball. That's why he switched to GD for a few years.
[/quote] He has never used a 103 bb in his driver until recently, always used a 73wb
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I figured someone would chime in here that might have more insight.

[tbowles411]

[quote name='punchdrunk' timestamp='1390430548' post='8511725']
I don't want to start up a huge Tiger conspiracy theory but it almost looks like the "grooves" on the one could just be paint.
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Maybe...but I personally think he's lost his feel. Not that he should go back to his Scotty per se, but it's an adjustment to putt with inserts...that's if they are really inserts! LOL

[TLUBulldogGolf]

Pretty sure the 83x WB was what he used for a while, definitely when he was with Haney. Always been 103X BBs in the fwys though. The DI I believe he went to after seeing Howell hit one so well, probably had something to do with the injury also but at that time he was really searching with the driver.

[Scotty1140]

[quote name='punchdrunk' timestamp='1390430548' post='8511725']
I don't want to start up a huge Tiger conspiracy theory but it almost looks like the "grooves" on the one could just be paint.
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Wondered the same thing in my post on the first page. I've had a method 001 and the feel of the grooves and polymer is very unique. A bit strange if you're used to a solid metal face. Isn't Rory's face the same?

[wldchld22]

15 clubs? I wonder if he will play the 5 wood or vrs forged this week. He must still be undecided

[nova6868]

Absolutely fantastic to get these pictures. Great work.

Pretty obvious that one putter has the "faux grooves" on the face, while the other has the Method grooves. Wonder which one he is gaming.

[born4golf77]

Holy cow Greg, you are the man!

These are the best bag photos I've seen of his clubs ever.

If you have never had the chance to stand close to Tiger while he is hitting balls it is hard to understand how solid he hits it all of the time.

[pga43]

[quote name='Jimmie48' timestamp='1390428533' post='8511487']
wow I havent seen his stuff this close up on this site before I dont think....isnt his bag notoriously hard to get ahold of?
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This is the 2nd or 3rd time I've shot his clubs handheld close-up and anytime he has a new club in the bag, Joey lets me shot that club.




[quote name='JaxBeachNole' timestamp='1390428875' post='8511521']
Amazing work getting these Greg, can't imagine how hard it is to get that much access to his tools
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Not that hard. Joey said "here are the clubs, I'm going to lunch let me know when you're done".

Tiger had finished his round, was having lunch, then his presser before he was going to practice.


Greg

[smiley9929]

Fantastic. Thank you!

[ignitewvu]

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[quote name='scratchswinger' timestamp='1390426742' post='8511281']
Wow great photos. The putters are the exact same, one is just newer.
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Yes very nice photos. I am really interested to see how Tiger's driving is this year with the 2.0 and the BB.
It doesn't look like those putters are the same to me. The darker one has deeper milling across the whole face including the "grooves". I am curious if that putter has "faux" grooves like tiger was talking about with rory in their china match.

I do like how nike filled in the "3" that cavity back 2 iron used to have on it. I'm sure it's a new club but it's a nice touch.
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Yeah I agree the faces are different, I was looking at the other photos and missed that.
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To my eye the new one is Painted black......it does NOT have the polomer grooves.

[markheardjr]

[quote name='kekoa' timestamp='1390428507' post='8511475']
was his putter always beached?
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His putter isn't beached. The Method putters, since launch day, have had a slot and face milled and filled with resin. He's played it since his Scotty. His Scotty's were never beached though. He used the TeI3 and the Newport 2. Never a beach.The Method feels and sounds nothing like a Scotty Newport Beach though. Beach putters are meant to have a higher pitched *ping* sound at impact and feel a tad softer. Non-beach putters have more of a click or clunk sound. He prefers the lower pitch sound. Deep milling provides somewhat of a softer feel without the beach slot.

[15th Club]

As someone already mentioned, the 103X BlueBoard is a new (late 2013) development with Tiger, equipment-wise. I am nearly certain that before the last couple of months, Tiger never used a composite shaft of that weight. And yes, I agree with whoever observed that it seems like a very significant change.

Of course, back when Tiger was in his early 20's and was the best driver of the golf ball in the world, he had a Cobra driver fitted with a 126-gram Dynamic Gold X100 steel shaft. So it wouldn't be technically true to say that Tiger has never played with such a heavy shaft.

Length is the interesting variable. Tiger's Cobra driver in the late 1990's was 43.5 inches, I think. The current driver is 44.0 inches, I think. Those lengths would be standard, in relation to the static weights of the respective shafts.

I'd like to know for sure what the length is on Tiger's new 103g driver.

Apart from the notorious Sergio Garcia, I wonder who else on Tour is using a driver with a 100+ gram shaft, at a length of anything less than 44"?

[TLUBulldogGolf]

I think Woodland's is in the 90s but it seems most are going lighter if anything.

[15th Club]

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[quote name='Jimmie48' timestamp='1390428533' post='8511487']
wow I havent seen his stuff this close up on this site before I dont think....isnt his bag notoriously hard to get ahold of?
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This is the 2nd or 3rd time I've shot his clubs handheld close-up and anytime he has a new club in the bag, Joey lets me shot that club.




[quote name='JaxBeachNole' timestamp='1390428875' post='8511521']
Amazing work getting these Greg, can't imagine how hard it is to get that much access to his tools
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Not that hard. Joey said "here are the clubs, I'm going to lunch let me know when you're done".

Tiger had finished his round, was having lunch, then his presser before he was going to practice.


Greg
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A refreshing change for TeamTiger.

Just don't ask to see Adam Scott's clubs... Know what I'm sayin'?

[Yellow Jacket]

[quote name='15th Club' timestamp='1390431600' post='8511857']
As someone already mentioned, the 103X BlueBoard is a new (late 2013) development with Tiger, equipment-wise. I am nearly certain that before the last couple of months, Tiger never used a composite shaft of that weight. And yes, I agree with whoever observed that it seems like a very significant change.

Of course, back when Tiger was in his early 20's and was the best driver of the golf ball in the world, he had a Cobra driver fitted with a 126-gram Dynamic Gold X100 steel shaft. So it wouldn't be technically true to say that Tiger has never played with such a heavy shaft.

Length is the interesting variable. Tiger's Cobra driver in the late 1990's was 43.5 inches, I think. The current driver is 44.0 inches, I think. Those lengths would be standard, in relation to the static weights of the respective shafts.

I'd like to know for sure what the length is on Tiger's new 103g driver.
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Tiger played a Whiteboard 83X in his driver and Blueboard 103X in his fairway woods before his knee surgery. His driver has been 45 1/4" for some time.

[Mikey Town]

By far, the best Tiger WITB pics to date.

Very nicely done!

[15th Club]

[quote name='Yellow Jacket' timestamp='1390432584' post='8511951']
[quote name='15th Club' timestamp='1390431600' post='8511857']
As someone already mentioned, the 103X BlueBoard is a new (late 2013) development with Tiger, equipment-wise. I am nearly certain that before the last couple of months, Tiger never used a composite shaft of that weight. And yes, I agree with whoever observed that it seems like a very significant change.

Of course, back when Tiger was in his early 20's and was the best driver of the golf ball in the world, he had a Cobra driver fitted with a 126-gram Dynamic Gold X100 steel shaft. So it wouldn't be technically true to say that Tiger has never played with such a heavy shaft.

Length is the interesting variable. Tiger's Cobra driver in the late 1990's was 43.5 inches, I think. The current driver is 44.0 inches, I think. Those lengths would be standard, in relation to the static weights of the respective shafts.

I'd like to know for sure what the length is on Tiger's new 103g driver.
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Tiger played a Whiteboard 83X in his driver and Blueboard 103X in his fairway woods before his knee surgery. His driver has been 45 1/4" for some time.
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No; I knew that. The BB 103X in his fairway woods; that's not unusual. At least not for him, being a child of the DG steel -era, and playing an 80-gram driver. [i](Edit. -- I see now what I wrote, and what you interpreted. I was talking about Tiger's never having played a 103X in his driver. But I didn't specify that in the preceding post. My bad. Yes, Tiger has a long history with the BB 103X in his 3-wood and, when he carries it, his 5-wood.)[/i]

Playing a driver with a 100+ gram shaft [u][i][b]is[/b][/i][/u] unusual in this day and age.
I'll bet my bottom dollar that his current driver with a 103X BlueBoard is [u][i][b]not[/b][/i][/u] 45 1/4".

[JC671]

EDIT: I should not have accused anyone of lying. Thanks for clarifying Greg. Great pics as always.

I stand by my statement, that the putter grooves "look" to be painted on!

[15th Club]

It was always my personal, unscientific opinion that when Tiger Woods switched from his old Cameron to a Nike Method putter, he lost some of his uncanny distance control on longer putts. I always thought that Tiger was the most underrated greens-reader in golf, and was the best speed-putter in a generation.

And when he went to the Nike Method, I thought he fell off noticeably in overall putting, due mostly to poor speed and uncertainty with speed in relation to break. Which then led to other problems.

The notion that he has a Nike Method that is a kind of a "fake" Nike Method -- real of course but with painted-on face markings -- is really interesting.

Huge kudos to the photographer. What a great job in this case.

[ghabanos]

does anyone know which club he is likely to remove for play?

[scratchswinger]

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does anyone know which club he is likely to remove for play?
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2 iron or 5w, likely the 2i

[Kylekoz17]

[quote name='ghabanos' timestamp='1390433903' post='8512083']
does anyone know which club he is likely to remove for play?
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The vrs 2 iron. He didn't take his 5 wood out all last year for the 2 iron so I expect that to continue

[15th Club]

[quote name='ghabanos' timestamp='1390433903' post='8512083']
does anyone know which club he is likely to remove for play?
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If it were up to me, I'd have Tiger keep the 2-iron in the bag on TP North, for shorter-hole tee shots, and put the 5-wood in the bag for TP South, where he might need it to get home on the long par-fives.

[Kylekoz17]

[quote name='peterra671' timestamp='1390433308' post='8512019']
Looks like Dave Franklin lied to the guys that went The Oven and all of WRX. Those grooves look painted on, for sure.
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Why don't you read the other 5 threads that already deal with this topic before calling nike employees liars. The face is not painted on, and Greg, the one taking pictures, has even said he doesn't believe it's painted. I'd put my money on them filling the grooves with the polymer and milling the face afterwards. It would look exactly like this and not have to deceive people. Whether or not it still utilizes the method tech and it's roll, who knows, but I highly doubt it's paint.

As far as tigers putting, he still is the greatest lag putter out there. The putter he uses has absolutely zero influence on his putting. He puts in hours and hours of putting work to where he knows how the club is going to act. His scotty (or any scotty) isn't some magical putter that holes putts for him.

[BogeyLJA]

what grind are those wedges considered?

[15th Club]

[quote name='Kylekoz17' timestamp='1390434663' post='8512167']
[quote name='peterra671' timestamp='1390433308' post='8512019']
Looks like Dave Franklin lied to the guys that went The Oven and all of WRX. Those grooves look painted on, for sure.
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Why don't you read the other 5 threads that already deal with this topic before calling nike employees liars. The face is not painted on, and Greg, the one taking pictures, has even said he doesn't believe it's painted. I'd put my money on them filling the grooves with the polymer and milling the face afterwards. It would look exactly like this and not have to deceive people. Whether or not it still utilizes the method tech and it's roll, who knows, but I highly doubt it's paint.

As far as tigers putting, he still is the greatest lag putter out there. The putter he uses has absolutely zero influence on his putting. He puts in hours and hours of putting work to where he knows how the club is going to act. His scotty (or any scotty) isn't some magical putter that holes putts for him.
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Question:

If the polymer isn't raised, and is simply flush with the milled face, what's the point in it even being there? Is there another Method anywhere on earth, with milled polymer-fill, other than Tiger Woods' Method?

[OPIE98LMB]

[quote name='15th Club' timestamp='1390435144' post='8512225'] [quote name='Kylekoz17' timestamp='1390434663' post='8512167'] [quote name='peterra671' timestamp='1390433308' post='8512019'] Looks like Dave Franklin lied to the guys that went The Oven and all of WRX. Those grooves look painted on, for sure. [/quote] Why don't you read the other 5 threads that already deal with this topic before calling nike employees liars. The face is not painted on, and Greg, the one taking pictures, has even said he doesn't believe it's painted. I'd put my money on them filling the grooves with the polymer and milling the face afterwards. It would look exactly like this and not have to deceive people. Whether or not it still utilizes the method tech and it's roll, who knows, but I highly doubt it's paint. As far as tigers putting, he still is the greatest lag putter out there. The putter he uses has absolutely zero influence on his putting. He puts in hours and hours of putting work to where he knows how the club is going to act. His scotty (or any scotty) isn't some magical putter that holes putts for him. [/quote] Question: If the polymer isn't raised, and is simply flush with the milled face, what's the point in it even being there? Is there another Method anywhere on earth, with milled polymer-fill, other than Tiger Woods' Method? [/quote]

I honestly think it's to fine tune the feel for Tiger. Just makes the face a little softer and is a personal preference for him.

My question is what does Tiger/Nike do with all the old clubs Tiger uses? Do they get melted down so noone can use/collect them or what?