Gender pay gap

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  • Darth PutterDarth Putter Members Posts: 4,755 ✭✭
    tjl48 wrote:



    I suspect at some point the USGA and R&A will be "encouraged" to pay the same purses for the men's and women's opens. They will probably have to do it with sponsors that will pay across both championships. For instance, a sponsor pays $5,000,000 to put commercials in both tournaments and the money gets added equally to both purses. The tv side is already set for the USGA as Fox pays for the entire USGA package.




    Encouraged by who? And how is that fair for the men or the sponsors?




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  • ctsgolfctsgolf Members Posts: 70 ✭✭



    It's math. Compare the revenue generated to the pay. If it's out of line with any other group. Then raise the pay. If it isn't then it doesn't make sense to.





    Same argument going on in soccer.



    The only way US soccer can raise the women's teams pay and retain the same bottom line is to take pay from the men's teams. Is that fair ? Not if you only look at it from a business Lense. You pay more for more production . Production being defined here as revenue generation.




    Or results.



    Women's team: world champions



    Men's team: can't beat the Bahamas





    The women's team shouldn't be paid the same as the men's, they should be paid more.




    That is, until the woman's team plays the men's team from the Bahamas.
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  • buckeye440buckeye440 Members Posts: 191 ✭✭



    It's math. Compare the revenue generated to the pay. If it's out of line with any other group. Then raise the pay. If it isn't then it doesn't make sense to.





    Same argument going on in soccer.



    The only way US soccer can raise the women's teams pay and retain the same bottom line is to take pay from the men's teams. Is that fair ? Not if you only look at it from a business Lense. You pay more for more production . Production being defined here as revenue generation.




    Or results.



    Women's team: world champions



    Men's team: can't beat the Bahamas





    The women's team shouldn't be paid the same as the men's, they should be paid more.




    Results? Have the Men and Women teams play each other. If we are talking about equal pay, we should talk about equal results, right?
  • buckeye440buckeye440 Members Posts: 191 ✭✭


    "The R&A head is in a position to do something about it. His organization is responsible for the men’s and women’s British Opens. Prize money for both 2019 events hasn’t been announced, but last year’s men’s British Open carried a total pot of $10.25 million compared to $3.25 million for the Ricoh Women’s British Open.



    In an ideal world, both tournaments would carry equal prize money. We’re a long way from that, as Slumbers admitted."




    I would bet that the Women are actually getting paid more than the men based on revenue/profit generated. Thus the women are more than likely over paid. If it was not for the NBA, the WNBA would have folded years ago.
  • EdEdEdEd Members Posts: 32 ✭✭
    The solution is pretty simple actually. Just get rid of all the woman's sports league and have 1 league for both male and female (NBA, NHL, PGA, Tennis, etc). Then the pay will be equal based on their ability. Just like at my industry where I compete with both men and women for promotion, jobs opening etc.



    It is actually pretty ironic that women are asking for equal pay all across sports thinking that equal pay = equality. Equality doesn't mean equal pay. It means everyone should be on a level playing field, meaning the best players (or players who bring in the most revenue for the owners) will be paid the most. It is actually funny how there was an ad campaign about WNBA players asking for more pay when their whole league is subsidized by NBA and is a losing league year after year.
  • tatertottatertot Members Posts: 4,378 ✭✭
    buckeye440 wrote:




    It's math. Compare the revenue generated to the pay. If it's out of line with any other group. Then raise the pay. If it isn't then it doesn't make sense to.





    Same argument going on in soccer.



    The only way US soccer can raise the women's teams pay and retain the same bottom line is to take pay from the men's teams. Is that fair ? Not if you only look at it from a business Lense. You pay more for more production . Production being defined here as revenue generation.




    Or results.



    Women's team: world champions



    Men's team: can't beat the Bahamas





    The women's team shouldn't be paid the same as the men's, they should be paid more.




    Results? Have the Men and Women teams play each other. If we are talking about equal pay, we should talk about equal results, right?




    So maybe the Ohio State football coaching staff and the faculty of the college of Arts and Sciences should compete in an Academic Bowl, with the winner getting the higher salary?



    Men and women's soccer are totally different ... their pay, like any occupation, should be based on the revenue they generate for their respective employer.
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