Tour issued Callaway Apex Pro 19' "Dot" Iron Pics and differences (comparison Pics added Page 3)

[easyyy]

Let's get the info on these . Heard they are tour Apex Pro 19 Dot limited. Heard they do not have cup faces, more grooves than the retail, more compact head, rounded tour shape and straighter leading edge.

 

I am struggling to stay away.

 

[radiman]

What? Callaway has their guys on tour playing something different than the retail models? You don't say... ?

 

All jokes aside. I just wish they would offer some of their tour only stuff to the public. From their many Epic Flash's down to these irons.

 

The irons sound intriguing and look pretty nice. Thanks for sharing the info.

 

 

[Jagpilotohio]

Interesting. So you have the “pro” version, and the ACTUAL pro version.

[easyyy]

> @radiman said:

> What? Callaway has their guys on tour playing something different than the retail models? You don't say... ?

>

> All jokes aside. I just wish they would offer some of their tour only stuff to the public. From their many Epic Flash's down to these irons.

>

> The irons sound intriguing and look pretty nice. Thanks for sharing the info.

>

>

I heard from @FairwayFred that Club Champion is going to offer them and triple diamond Epic drivers for custom fitting. In a month or so.

 

[easyyy]

> @radiman said:

> What? Callaway has their guys on tour playing something different than the retail models? You don't say... ?

>

> All jokes aside. I just wish they would offer some of their tour only stuff to the public. From their many Epic Flash's down to these irons.

>

> The irons sound intriguing and look pretty nice. Thanks for sharing the info.

>

>

@joey3108 is a fitter and has them. I think they are available if you dig around.

 

[radiman]

> @easyyy said:

> > @radiman said:

> > What? Callaway has their guys on tour playing something different than the retail models? You don't say... ?

> >

> > All jokes aside. I just wish they would offer some of their tour only stuff to the public. From their many Epic Flash's down to these irons.

> >

> > The irons sound intriguing and look pretty nice. Thanks for sharing the info.

> >

> >

> I heard from @FairwayFred that Club Champion is going to offer them and triple diamond Epic drivers for custom fitting. In a month or so.

>

 

That's cool. Seems they are deviating from their old ways a bit and making some of this stuff available, even if in a limited manner.

[vanya]

Now if they did the standard Apex in a version like this I'm not sure there would be a price point I wouldn't pay.

[JB lefty]

I was under the impression with cup faces the pro's were having difficulty with distance control. Some were saying saying the would get flyers sometimes like hitting from the rough but they were in the fairway. So it would make sense if the made these without the face cup for the tour. I love the forged pro look but hate the feel of the face cup. Thats why I don't have a set of these yet. Still using the original apex pro irons and have not found an iron that i like as much yet to replace them.

 

[burritos4breakfast]

> @"JB lefty" said:

> I was under the impression with cup faces the pro's were having difficulty with distance control. Some were saying saying the would get flyers sometimes like hitting from the rough but they were in the fairway. So it would make sense if the made these without the face cup for the tour. I love the forged pro look but hate the feel of the face cup. Thats why I don't have a set of these yet. Still using the original apex pro irons and have not found an iron that i like as much yet to replace them.

>

 

im still gaming the 14 apex pros also. feel is so good. the 19 pro is better than the 16 but still cant beat the 14s. theyre still working great for Kiz too

[jonn443]

More grooves, more spin.

[speeder717]

Correct, the triple diamond is coming to retail...

[scratchswinger]

I heard 400 sets released.

[poppman2142]

Also raw Apex MB's are coming as well.

[Z1ggy16]

Makes total sense to me. The offset on the pro model imo is quite a lot compared to other more "tour" like heads. My Miura's made them look like shovels as far as offset went, so to reduce that right off the bat seems perfectly reasonable. No cup face also sounds reasonable as pro's A) don't need more distance and b) tend to be on the traditionalist side and just want something predictable time after time. More grooves makes sense too as with firm greens they play, that extra groove could be the difference from rolling over the green or just staying on when coming out of thick rough.

 

I'd definitely be interested in them if they were a little more forgiving than my Miura and had all the stuff listed above. I definitely worry about cup face producing random fliers because that's what my P790 did, and that's why I sold them. Lost a solid 1 to 1.5 clubs of distance but the Miura are incredible with consistency.

 

 

 

 

[easylittle5wood]

These got to be Xander’s model except not raw.

[jick]

If you don't like multi material cup face, then just the x forged. Unless you want the shiny chrome of apex pro and not the xforged's satin finish.

[speeder717]

> @poppman2142 said:

> Also raw Apex MB's are coming as well.

 

Really? Hadnt heard they are releasing another run.... I wish I would have never gotten rid of mine!

[Golfingfanatic]

Honestly, I am not a big fan of this development. I feel it's kinda shady to release these limited editions so soon after the regular release. Basically, what callaway is saying is: "Hey, remember when you spent 500$ on your new driver and 1K+$ on your new irons a few months ago? Yeah, no one on tour is using those, so we release more versions now".

Releasing all the new stuff at the same time would be a lot better for the consumer if you ask me.

[jshuff]

I would love to get a raw 5 - 7 heads to go with the raw Apex MBs I picked up.

[Wdwfreak]

Callaway is leading the way now in "here's a bunch of cool stuff you'll never get because it's on tour only" it's shocking to say but taylormade I never expected to only have four total drivers out this year all available at retail but it's true. Where Callaway has 8+ with only two being available at retail.

 

Not a fan of this stuff ever.

[easylittle5wood]

> @speeder717 said:

> > @poppman2142 said:

> > Also raw Apex MB's are coming as well.

>

> Really? Hadnt heard they are releasing another run.... I wish I would have never gotten rid of mine!

 

Just got an email from fairway golf USA they have fulls sets of the raw blades. Photos show them as components. No longer just in Sweden (or wherever they were available for US shipping).

 

 

[jshuff]

> @easylittle5wood said:

> > @speeder717 said:

> > > @poppman2142 said:

> > > Also raw Apex MB's are coming as well.

> >

> > Really? Hadnt heard they are releasing another run.... I wish I would have never gotten rid of mine!

>

> Just got an email from fairway golf USA they have fulls sets of the raw blades. Photos show them as components. No longer just in Sweden (or wherever they were available for US shipping).

>

>

 

You should proceed with picking up a set.

[easyyy]

@joey3108 posted these the other day...

 

 

[easyyy]

This pic is the most telling to me.

 

Significant changes in the cavity for the Apex Pro 19 Dot version. The lack of depth in the cavity and the thicker muscle. Obvious when comparing these two 7 irons.

 

 

[radiman]

> @easyyy said:

> This pic is the most telling to me.

>

> Significant changes in the cavity for the Apex Pro 19 Dot version. The lack of depth in the cavity and the thicker muscle. Obvious when comparing these two 7 irons.

>

>

>

 

Is the dot the one with the thinner muscle?

[slicktry]

> @radiman said:

> > @easyyy said:

> > This pic is the most telling to me.

> >

> > Significant changes in the cavity for the Apex Pro 19 Dot version. The lack of depth in the cavity and the thicker muscle. Obvious when comparing these two 7 irons.

> >

> >

> >

>

> Is the dot the one with the thinner muscle?

 

Yes.

[jonnymc44]

> @burritos4breakfast said:

> > @"JB lefty" said:

> > I was under the impression with cup faces the pro's were having difficulty with distance control. Some were saying saying the would get flyers sometimes like hitting from the rough but they were in the fairway. So it would make sense if the made these without the face cup for the tour. I love the forged pro look but hate the feel of the face cup. Thats why I don't have a set of these yet. Still using the original apex pro irons and have not found an iron that i like as much yet to replace them.

> >

>

> im still gaming the 14 apex pros also. feel is so good. the 19 pro is better than the 16 but still cant beat the 14s. theyre still working great for Kiz too

 

Absolutely love the look of the 19 Pros, but I'm still gaming the 14 Pros too. Can't let them go. Played some of my best golf with them.

[easyyy]

> @slicktry said:

> > @radiman said:

> > > @easyyy said:

> > > This pic is the most telling to me.

> > >

> > > Significant changes in the cavity for the Apex Pro 19 Dot version. The lack of depth in the cavity and the thicker muscle. Obvious when comparing these two 7 irons.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Is the dot the one with the thinner muscle?

>

> Yes.

 

the dot is the lower head on the bottom.

[staysober for golf]

Sweet! maybe 7i - PW. for sure.

[buckeyefl]

This is what they should have been in the first place.