Interesting thing about DJ injury and WD

[Vindog]

I might be in the minority but the #1 player in the world who is young and fit hurts his back.

 

He then has specialists and Dr's saying theres no damage and he wont do anymore damage by playing. He goes onto the range and with Butch at his side hits full blooded drives without a flinch. Then an hour later withdraws.

 

We've all had bad backs and played and usually you put your hand on the pain if it even twinges after the swing. He didnt.

 

As there could be no further damage he would have got more kudos for trying to play and if it really got worse we would all understand, even if you could see him protecting it on the range I would understand.

 

Anyway, dissapointing for fans/organisers etc etc when all the public evidence showed he was still swinging with no chance of damage.

 

If it was really that bad you wouldnt even have hit the range..........in my opinion.

 

 

/right, let all the DJ fans fire away.....

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Tournaments aren't played on the range

[DavePelz4]

 

I might be in the minority but the #1 player in the world who is young and fit hurts his back.

 

He then has specialists and Dr's saying theres no damage and he wont do anymore damage by playing. He goes onto the range and with Butch at his side hits full blooded drives without a flinch. Then an hour later withdraws.

 

We've all had bad backs and played and usually you put your hand on the pain if it even twinges after the swing. He didnt.

 

As there could be no further damage he would have got more kudos for trying to play and if it really got worse we would all understand, even if you could see him protecting it on the range I would understand.

 

Anyway, dissapointing for fans/organisers etc etc when all the public evidence showed he was still swinging with no chance of damage.

 

If it was really that bad you wouldnt even have hit the range..........in my opinion.

 

 

/right, let all the DJ fans fire away.....

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When did anyone say there was no damage and that he couldn't hurt himself anymore?

[PGArox]

Tiger was a trained navy seal and build like an nfl middle linebacker. Of course he was tougher. That's like asking if water is wet.

 

Besides, didn't Tiger win a U.S. Open with an amputated leg? That's one tough hombre. :)

[williamsnrb]

Tiger was a trained navy seal and build like an nfl middle linebacker. Of course he was tougher. That's like asking if water is wet

 

Please show us a 6'1 185lb NFL middle linebacker

 

[cdnglf]

DJ said he couldn't compete.

Tiger could compete because as everybody knows the fields were wayyyyy weaker back in 2008.

[flog2]

I might be in the minority but the #1 player in the world who is young and fit hurts his back.

 

He then has specialists and Dr's saying theres no damage and he wont do anymore damage by playing. He goes onto the range and with Butch at his side hits full blooded drives without a flinch. Then an hour later withdraws.

 

We've all had bad backs and played and usually you put your hand on the pain if it even twinges after the swing. He didnt.

 

As there could be no further damage he would have got more kudos for trying to play and if it really got worse we would all understand, even if you could see him protecting it on the range I would understand.

 

Anyway, dissapointing for fans/organisers etc etc when all the public evidence showed he was still swinging with no chance of damage.

 

If it was really that bad you wouldnt even have hit the range..........in my opinion.

 

 

/right, let all the DJ fans fire away.....

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When did anyone say there was no damage and that he couldn't hurt himself anymore?

erm the Dr and specialist, relayed by Butch Harmon himself on National TV

[Man_O_War]

DJ said the pain was not in his backswing but after impact.

 

This really surprised me.

 

Tiger said that the reason he could play in 08 was because his knee hurt after impact, so it didn't affect his swing- it was just a pain management thing after the ball was gone.

 

I'm not saying DJ is soft but... maybe Tiger is just tougher?

 

Yea yea, Tiger loves to exaggerate the extent of his injuries right?

 

Clearly that approach has worked well for Tiger and he is now injury free.

 

i believe he has 13 more majors than DJ? not to mention many many more wins.....has it worked? f()ck yes

[stryper]

I might be in the minority but the #1 player in the world who is young and fit hurts his back.

 

He then has specialists and Dr's saying theres no damage and he wont do anymore damage by playing. He goes onto the range and with Butch at his side hits full blooded drives without a flinch. Then an hour later withdraws.

 

We've all had bad backs and played and usually you put your hand on the pain if it even twinges after the swing. He didnt.

 

As there could be no further damage he would have got more kudos for trying to play and if it really got worse we would all understand, even if you could see him protecting it on the range I would understand.

 

Anyway, dissapointing for fans/organisers etc etc when all the public evidence showed he was still swinging with no chance of damage.

 

If it was really that bad you wouldnt even have hit the range..........in my opinion.

 

 

/right, let all the DJ fans fire away.....

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Not a DJ fan, but to my untrained eye, I thought he was holding back on his swing, and the look on his face the entire time suggested something less than comfort. He also looked reluctant to even try to bend over to tee up his ball, and in fact his brother handled that task for him, which raised the obvious question, how was that going to work on the course? How was he even going to bend over to putt?

 

I understand him wanting to give it a try. But I think he knew within those first few swings, before he first walked off the range, that it would be a no-go. It looked to me that instead of warming up he spent the time coming to terms internally with the inevitable. Teeing off and then WD-ing after a few holes (or possibly just steps) would not have lended any more credibility to his character.

 

Again, I'm no DJ fanatic, but I'll give him a pass on this, unless we find out there's more to the story...which we never will.

[capnstabn]

DJ is one strong SOB. Works out twice a day according to reports. A cage match between him and Tiger in his prime would be something to behold.

 

That would be good. I'd still put my cash on Lee Westwood bare-knuckle boxing either of them.

[JunkerJorge]

No clue about who's pain is worse than who's or who's dad can beat up who's dad.

 

 

However, are you really suggesting anyone take their cues on how to handle injuries from Tiger?

[djmohab2]

Can you guys seriously not read? Dustin said that his driver swings were only at 80% and while he could take the club back fine, his back would "catch" on his downswing. Nothing about that indicates that he only felt pain post-impact.

[Vindog]

DJ said the pain was not in his backswing but after impact.

 

This really surprised me.

 

Tiger said that the reason he could play in 08 was because his knee hurt after impact, so it didn't affect his swing- it was just a pain management thing after the ball was gone.

 

I'm not saying DJ is soft but... maybe Tiger is just tougher?

 

Yea yea, Tiger loves to exaggerate the extent of his injuries right?

 

Clearly that approach has worked well for Tiger and he is now injury free.

 

i believe he has 13 more majors than DJ? not to mention many many more wins.....has it worked? f()ck yes

 

Since 08?

[green.tea]

 

I might be in the minority but the #1 player in the world who is young and fit hurts his back.

 

He then has specialists and Dr's saying theres no damage and he wont do anymore damage by playing. He goes onto the range and with Butch at his side hits full blooded drives without a flinch. Then an hour later withdraws.

 

We've all had bad backs and played and usually you put your hand on the pain if it even twinges after the swing. He didnt.

 

As there could be no further damage he would have got more kudos for trying to play and if it really got worse we would all understand, even if you could see him protecting it on the range I would understand.

 

Anyway, dissapointing for fans/organisers etc etc when all the public evidence showed he was still swinging with no chance of damage.

 

If it was really that bad you wouldnt even have hit the range..........in my opinion.

 

 

/right, let all the DJ fans fire away.....

 

Not a DJ fan, but what's the end game here? What would DJ have to gain from lying about this? And if you actually watched him on the range, it was fairly obvious he wasn't swinging anywhere near 100% and did not look comfortable at all.

 

But I'm sure you know more about his body/swing than he does.

[flog2]

I might be in the minority but the #1 player in the world who is young and fit hurts his back.

 

He then has specialists and Dr's saying theres no damage and he wont do anymore damage by playing. He goes onto the range and with Butch at his side hits full blooded drives without a flinch. Then an hour later withdraws.

 

We've all had bad backs and played and usually you put your hand on the pain if it even twinges after the swing. He didnt.

 

As there could be no further damage he would have got more kudos for trying to play and if it really got worse we would all understand, even if you could see him protecting it on the range I would understand.

 

Anyway, dissapointing for fans/organisers etc etc when all the public evidence showed he was still swinging with no chance of damage.

 

If it was really that bad you wouldnt even have hit the range..........in my opinion.

 

 

/right, let all the DJ fans fire away.....

 

Not a DJ fan, but what's the end game here? What would DJ have to gain from lying about this? And if you actually watched him on the range, it was fairly obvious he wasn't swinging anywhere near 100% and did not look comfortable at all.

 

But I'm sure you know more about his body/swing than he does.

I didnt say he was lying! thats quite a leap you made there fella!

 

yes I did watch him on the range with Butch who afterwards reported what I typed. So it appears you actually know more about it that DJ and Butch together so I'll bow down to your inside knowledge.

 

Have a good day sparky.

[green.tea]

I might be in the minority but the #1 player in the world who is young and fit hurts his back.

 

He then has specialists and Dr's saying theres no damage and he wont do anymore damage by playing. He goes onto the range and with Butch at his side hits full blooded drives without a flinch. Then an hour later withdraws.

 

We've all had bad backs and played and usually you put your hand on the pain if it even twinges after the swing. He didnt.

 

As there could be no further damage he would have got more kudos for trying to play and if it really got worse we would all understand, even if you could see him protecting it on the range I would understand.

 

Anyway, dissapointing for fans/organisers etc etc when all the public evidence showed he was still swinging with no chance of damage.

 

If it was really that bad you wouldnt even have hit the range..........in my opinion.

 

 

/right, let all the DJ fans fire away.....

 

Not a DJ fan, but what's the end game here? What would DJ have to gain from lying about this? And if you actually watched him on the range, it was fairly obvious he wasn't swinging anywhere near 100% and did not look comfortable at all.

 

But I'm sure you know more about his body/swing than he does.

I didnt say he was lying! thats quite a leap you made there fella!

 

yes I did watch him on the range with Butch who afterwards reported what I typed. So it appears you actually know more about it that DJ and Butch together so I'll bow down to your inside knowledge.

 

Have a good day sparky.

 

So, pray tell us, what was the point of your post then?

[Dave230]

I've always thought maybe Tiger should have played the long game with some of his injuries, there's lots of potential in golf to be great in your 40s like Phil Mickelson is now. If you think that Tiger was around the same age as DJ and then didn't win another major, it seems such a waste now. Tiger won 4 of 6 events he played in 2008, he really was at the top of his powers so maybe he shouldn't have aggravated it. But then the legend wouldn't be the same.

[ebrasmus21]

DJ threads continue to go downhill

[Bob57]

Tiger was a trained navy seal and build like an nfl middle linebacker. Of course he was tougher. That's like asking if water is wet

 

Hopefully you are joking or you didn't read the extent of his seal training as written by the seals he trained with (hint did the fun stuff not the seal stuff). I looked through NFL statistics and can't find any linebacker in modern times that is 6' 185 pounds with chicken sticks for legs.. What's next he could have been an NBA player, unless you saw him fiddling around with MJ oops not so good.. there was one thing that was consistent during his "seal" training...he was cheap never offering to buy his own ammo..

[JonnyKrasnodar]

I'm not trolling, it's a legit observation about the difference between an injury that hurts before and after impact. DJ said he hurt his elbow and hip and that it hurt after impact. According to tiger, he could play if the pain was after impact.

 

Tiger could also walk on water and will win more majors so it's hardly surprising he played with knee pain.

[MtlJeff]

Tiger was a trained navy seal and build like an nfl middle linebacker. Of course he was tougher. That's like asking if water is wet

 

Hopefully you are joking or you didn't read the extent of his seal training as written by the seals he trained with (hint did the fun stuff not the seal stuff). I looked through NFL statistics and can't find any linebacker in modern times that is 6' 185 pounds with chicken sticks for legs.. What's next he could have been an NBA player, unless you saw him fiddling around with MJ oops not so good.. there was one thing that was consistent during his "seal" training...he was cheap never offering to buy his own ammo..

 

Well of course they couldn't get into the extent of his seal training, it was classified.

 

Also I think Luke Kuechly is like 150-160lbs tops. Camera adds 10 pounds and there's always like 3-4 cameras on him during games

[ray9898]

LOL....this really isn't 'interesting' at all. It is just some BS speculation formed into some fantasy hypothesis.

[BenHoganSlam1953]

DJ said the pain was not in his backswing but after impact.

 

This really surprised me.

 

Tiger said that the reason he could play in 08 was because his knee hurt after impact, so it didn't affect his swing- it was just a pain management thing after the ball was gone.

 

I'm not saying DJ is soft but... maybe Tiger is just tougher?

 

Yea yea, Tiger loves to exaggerate the extent of his injuries right?

 

Ah ... slight difference between a knee and the one's back

[BenHoganSlam1953]

Tiger was a trained navy seal and build like an nfl middle linebacker. Of course he was tougher. That's like asking if water is wet

 

Hopefully you are joking or you didn't read the extent of his seal training as written by the seals he trained with (hint did the fun stuff not the seal stuff). I looked through NFL statistics and can't find any linebacker in modern times that is 6' 185 pounds with chicken sticks for legs.. What's next he could have been an NBA player, unless you saw him fiddling around with MJ oops not so good.. there was one thing that was consistent during his "seal" training...he was cheap never offering to buy his own ammo..

 

Well of course they couldn't get into the extent of his seal training, it was classified.

 

Also I think Luke Kuechly is like 150-160lbs tops. Camera adds 10 pounds and there's always like 3-4 cameras on him during games

 

Duh, I never accounted for that aspect of reality when watching video - it is so obvious now that you pointed it out. Of course, one must also adjust for the sensor size aspect combined with the f/ratio of the lens, as I can imagine some combinations today could add 20-30 pounds each, compared to the standard video cameras that were in use when they originally discovered the side-effect of the additional 10 pounds.

[soregongolfer]

Different parts of the body. Differing impacts on the swing.

 

Playing golf with back pain is a different beast than playing golf with knee pain.

 

Truer words have never been spoken.

[soregongolfer]

DJ said the pain was not in his backswing but after impact.

 

This really surprised me.

 

Tiger said that the reason he could play in 08 was because his knee hurt after impact, so it didn't affect his swing- it was just a pain management thing after the ball was gone.

 

I'm not saying DJ is soft but... maybe Tiger is just tougher?

 

Yea yea, Tiger loves to exaggerate the extent of his injuries right?

 

How's Tiger playing today? He has a back issue right?

[doublehans]

Maybe this is just good "course management" by DJ. Probably could play, but if thinks hed shoot himself out of the tourney whats the point. We'll never know for sure but could be the difference between getting a worse injury or screwing up his swing.

 

DJ also has a different game than Tiger. DJ's game isnt manufacturing shots. DJ wins by practicing routine shots and maxing out those. He makes the game look easy because he keeps his game plan simple. Just because prime Tiger could bunt his way around a course and might play, doesnt mean that would be a good idea for DJ given the way DJ has built his game. Very different players.

[27x10.5]

Nevermind

[CHuntsman]

Maybe DJ doesn't want to end up like Tiger.

 

Ending up with 14 majors would suck...

[JunkerJorge]

Maybe DJ doesn't want to end up like Tiger.

 

Ending up with 14 majors would suck...

 

How many majors after the one mentioned in the post?

[SilverBullets]

I'm not trolling, it's a legit observation about the difference between an injury that hurts before and after impact. DJ said he hurt his elbow and hip and that it hurt after impact. According to tiger, he could play if the pain was after impact.

 

I tend to think DJ is thinking long term. Look at where playing through all of those injuries left Tiger.

 

I've always wondered if all of the injuries Tiger has had are related. Basically having blown up knees that I'm sure were always in some sort of pain/ache (Tiger obviously hasn't said that but after you blow up you knee a few times it's never the same.. my sister was a D1 soccer player and blew out her ACL 3 times... it hurts/aches/throbs etc at some point throughout everyday.. she's 33). I have always wondered if the back eventually giving out is somewhat due to stress caused from compensating for Tiger's messed up knees.

 

Im sure DJ could have played through the injury. He said it himself, he could swing at 70%. Tiger, almost undoubtedly would have played. He would have risked further injury, the rest of his season and even his career, just to tee it up. DJ realizes its a marathon and not a sprint. It's a long season, a long career. Why risk it when he knows he can't play to the best of his abilities. Go home, get treated, get healthy and come back.