How far do you really hit it?

[Gamble Gamble]

I think some people need a new tape measure or gps.

 

You probably just need to convert our silly imperial system to metric. It's not that absurd ;)

[zorro]

Is 250 carry with 93 MPH CH speed viable?

 

Asking for a friend.. :stink:

The math says nope...not possible.

 

If you are at elevation with a stiff breeze helping and just pure it....ya got a chance.

 

On the other hand...if you go to the local big box outlet, get in a bay with the radar jacked, sure!

[radiman]

I wish I had access to a LM to get distances. This past off season I went through quite a bit of strength training. My drives were longer and so were my irons. The downside was all of my distances were way off. I was flying greens all the time. Couldn't really get a good handle on my carry distances. Wasn't until half way through the season that I started getting my feel down. To have a tool that accurately measures your ball flight would be amazing.

[Forged4ever]

Not very far?

 

Cheers?

RP

[North Butte]

I wish I had access to a LM to get distances. This past off season I went through quite a bit of strength training. My drives were longer and so were my irons. The downside was all of my distances were way off. I was flying greens all the time. Couldn't really get a good handle on my carry distances. Wasn't until half way through the season that I started getting my feel down. To have a tool that accurately measures your ball flight would be amazing.

 

Laser rangefinder. Good for plus or minus about a yard.

[radiman]

I wish I had access to a LM to get distances. This past off season I went through quite a bit of strength training. My drives were longer and so were my irons. The downside was all of my distances were way off. I was flying greens all the time. Couldn't really get a good handle on my carry distances. Wasn't until half way through the season that I started getting my feel down. To have a tool that accurately measures your ball flight would be amazing.

 

Laser rangefinder. Good for plus or minus about a yard.

 

Oh, I have one. But, when I was flying greens I had no idea how far I was carrying the ball. It would land long and take a huge bounce. I could never tell where it actually landed.

[hybrid25]

Not very far?

 

Cheers?

RP

I don't think that's always been the case.

[BKN1964]

I was talking the other day with an instructor I know who had a fairly successful amateur career and actually played on the PGA tour for several years. I'm 53, he's 51.

 

We were talking about eyesight and seeing the ball. I said something about decreasing distances as you age being necessary because you can't see the ball if you hit it too far. He said "I know what you mean. I only carry my drives out about 240 anymore."

 

Really put the distance thing into perspective for me. If a former tour pro in relatively good physical condition, who teaches on a daily basis and plays regularly only hits his drives 240, then 220 yard drives for me seems completely reasonable.

[SomedayScratch]

I was talking the other day with an instructor I know who had a fairly successful amateur career and actually played on the PGA tour for several years. I'm 53, he's 51.

 

We were talking about eyesight and seeing the ball. I said something about decreasing distances as you age being necessary because you can't see the ball if you hit it too far. He said "I know what you mean. I only carry my drives out about 240 anymore."

 

Really put the distance thing into perspective for me. If a former tour pro in relatively good physical condition, who teaches on a daily basis and plays regularly only hits his drives 240, then 220 yard drives for me seems completely reasonable.

 

Exactly, nothing wrong with that. Growing up, my dad hit it 280, now at almost 57 years old he hits it about 220-240. 220 at 53 years old is just fine!

[mocokid]

did a simulator for the first time.

Previously thought my "good" drives were 250-260 yds.

I hit about 12 drives on the sim: 233 carry, 244 total. 3500 RPM, average 102mph clubhead speed. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed, but a I gotta figure I'm 60, and it's a benchmark that I can now seek to improve on. My PGA pro wants the RPM done to 2500-3000. Unfortunately, I don't have the launch angle figure.

[SomedayScratch]

did a simulator for the first time.

Previously thought my "good" drives were 250-260 yds.

I hit about 12 drives on the sim: 233 carry, 244 total. 3500 RPM, average 102mph clubhead speed. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed, but a I gotta figure I'm 60, and it's a benchmark that I can now seek to improve on. My PGA pro wants the RPM done to 2500-3000. Unfortunately, I don't have the launch angle figure.

 

One of those figures is wrong... Either the distance or the swing speed. 102 swing speed should be producing roughly 260. I would guess the swing speed is off since lots of monitors screw that up.

[mocokid]

did a simulator for the first time.

Previously thought my "good" drives were 250-260 yds.

I hit about 12 drives on the sim: 233 carry, 244 total. 3500 RPM, average 102mph clubhead speed. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed, but a I gotta figure I'm 60, and it's a benchmark that I can now seek to improve on. My PGA pro wants the RPM done to 2500-3000. Unfortunately, I don't have the launch angle figure.

 

One of those figures is wrong... Either the distance or the swing speed. 102 swing speed should be producing roughly 260. I would guess the swing speed is off since lots of monitors screw that up.

 

maybe it was 101 mph, but I'll check.

[SomedayScratch]

did a simulator for the first time.

Previously thought my "good" drives were 250-260 yds.

I hit about 12 drives on the sim: 233 carry, 244 total. 3500 RPM, average 102mph clubhead speed. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed, but a I gotta figure I'm 60, and it's a benchmark that I can now seek to improve on. My PGA pro wants the RPM done to 2500-3000. Unfortunately, I don't have the launch angle figure.

 

One of those figures is wrong... Either the distance or the swing speed. 102 swing speed should be producing roughly 260. I would guess the swing speed is off since lots of monitors screw that up.

 

maybe it was 101 mph, but I'll check.

 

The low point of my swing speed range is around 102. (102-107 is my range). The 102s usually go 260 ish

[radiman]

did a simulator for the first time.

Previously thought my "good" drives were 250-260 yds.

I hit about 12 drives on the sim: 233 carry, 244 total. 3500 RPM, average 102mph clubhead speed. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed, but a I gotta figure I'm 60, and it's a benchmark that I can now seek to improve on. My PGA pro wants the RPM done to 2500-3000. Unfortunately, I don't have the launch angle figure.

 

One of those figures is wrong... Either the distance or the swing speed. 102 swing speed should be producing roughly 260. I would guess the swing speed is off since lots of monitors screw that up.

 

maybe it was 101 mph, but I'll check.

 

The low point of my swing speed range is around 102. (102-107 is my range). The 102s usually go 260 ish

 

A couple pieces are missing though. We have his swing speed, but not his ball speed. If he is making poor contact that could account for the high spin numbers. We also don't know what his launch numbers are. My guess is one or both are less than perfect creating the discrepancy in carry distance.

[mocokid]

did a simulator for the first time.

Previously thought my "good" drives were 250-260 yds.

I hit about 12 drives on the sim: 233 carry, 244 total. 3500 RPM, average 102mph clubhead speed. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed, but a I gotta figure I'm 60, and it's a benchmark that I can now seek to improve on. My PGA pro wants the RPM done to 2500-3000. Unfortunately, I don't have the launch angle figure.

 

One of those figures is wrong... Either the distance or the swing speed. 102 swing speed should be producing roughly 260. I would guess the swing speed is off since lots of monitors screw that up.

 

maybe it was 101 mph, but I'll check.

 

The low point of my swing speed range is around 102. (102-107 is my range). The 102s usually go 260 ish

 

A couple pieces are missing though. We have his swing speed, but not his ball speed. If he is making poor contact that could account for the high spin numbers. We also don't know what his launch numbers are. My guess is one or both are less than perfect creating the discrepancy in carry distance.

OK, next time ball speed and launch angle. My pro said check the RPMs and launch angle, in additional to MPH of course.

[PingEye2]

Here you go (from a Foresight GC Quad)..not too bad other than the spin is over 5000...Oh wait, that's a 6 iron. (Not me, my son)

 

 

 

[SnapHooker_307]

Woof. Really wish I had an accurate answer. Here is my best guess for the driver at least.

 

95 mph (ish) swing speed. 220-230 carry max, around 245-255 total distance when said and done (on a pretty good hit).

[PingEye2]

did a simulator for the first time.

Previously thought my "good" drives were 250-260 yds.

I hit about 12 drives on the sim: 233 carry, 244 total. 3500 RPM, average 102mph clubhead speed. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed, but a I gotta figure I'm 60, and it's a benchmark that I can now seek to improve on. My PGA pro wants the RPM done to 2500-3000. Unfortunately, I don't have the launch angle figure.

 

One of those figures is wrong... Either the distance or the swing speed. 102 swing speed should be producing roughly 260. I would guess the swing speed is off since lots of monitors screw that up.

 

Spin is way too high. Need ballspeed numbers to see about contact, too. You probably hit down on it too much

[mocokid]

I know my pro wants 2500-3000 rpm, gotta lower that. If my head cold abates I'll try this weekend. Had it almost a month now ugh.

[radiman]

I know my pro wants 2500-3000 rpm, gotta lower that. If my head cold abates I'll try this weekend. Had it almost a month now ugh.

 

This would give you a good idea of your potential distance gains. Once you have all of the necessary data points, you can enter them in (ball speed, launch angle, and spin). It will give you a carry distance. Then, you can drop the spin number down to what your coach is having you aim for to see how it affects your carry distance.

 

https://flightscope.com/products/trajectory-optimizer/

[radiman]

I know my pro wants 2500-3000 rpm, gotta lower that. If my head cold abates I'll try this weekend. Had it almost a month now ugh.

 

This would give you a good idea of your potential distance gains. Once you have all of the necessary data points, you can enter them in (ball speed, launch angle, and spin). It will give you a carry distance. Then, you can drop the spin number down to what your coach is having you aim for to see how it affects your carry distance.

 

https://flightscope....tory-optimizer/

 

For instance. By using a launch angle of 11 degrees with the numbers that you provided, I have to put in a ball speed of 143 to get those carry numbers. That is a smash factor of 1.4-ish, which could definitely be improved upon by improving contact. With that swing speed, your ball speeds should ideally be in the high 140's to low 150's with good contact. And lastly, were you using range balls by chance?

[mocokid]

I bring my pro v1s for the Sim. Thanks for the optimizer info, great stuff!!!

[Sean2]

If I play too far forward, I hit it too far.

 

If I play too far back, I don't hit it far enough.

 

If I play the correct tee, I hit it long enough.

 

:hi:

[Londoner]

If I play too far forward, I hit it too far.

 

If I play too far back, I don't hit it far enough.

 

If I play the correct tee, I hit it long enough.

 

:hi:

Bit of a shame you have to pick the tee first! :swoon:

[BNGL]

26. Cobra F7+ PX Hzrdous Proto 6.5. Swing speed average is at 113.1. Average ball speed is 167. Average smash of 1.48. Average carry is 277, rollout to 297. I hit 4 degrees down on it, I hit a few at dead level and carry went to 290.

[JohnnyMIke]

I got an interesting perspective from Game Golf today, which I hadn't used for a while until a couple of weeks ago. I actually had a decent day off the tee and hit several proper driver, 3w, and 2H tee shots. I also hit one not so great 3w, a few lateral hazards, and completely duffed my driver on on the 10th hole (it only went 81 yards). It was still none too warm (45-50 over the round) and a little windy (one club or a club and a half with a few calm holes). However, the fairways were hard and I got run I normally would not get on 2 holes.

Here is what was interesting: of the 9 times I used driver, that one duff pulled the mean down from 277.x to 256.x. The bad 3w was 218 after hitting a tree,which mean that the 3w average with one good one (267), and one that got unusual run out (320) was actually higher than the D (268 vs 256) with a similar median. Now I am by no means a long drive competitor, but my problem is strike consistency and not swing speed. For anyone like me, who can hit it decently far, but who isn't a great golfer it is all about getting rid of the bad ones. It only took one to take me from 10 or so notches up from JIm Furyk at the bottom of the 2017 PGA tour avg drive distance stat down to just a little above Game Golf's "Scratch" (which is probably a bit better that scratch because it includes everyone below their zero). Throw in one more shortie and it'd be just another guy hitting it less than 250 on average.

[Lincoln_Arcadia]

You guys shouldn't be losing that much distance with age. If you have a properly sequenced swing, you shouldn't be losing that much distance in your 50s. 60s maybe, but not mid-50s.

 

http://www.golfwrx.c...-lost-with-age/

 

http://www.golfwrx.c...12.16.58-PM.png

 

 

 

I was talking the other day with an instructor I know who had a fairly successful amateur career and actually played on the PGA tour for several years. I'm 53, he's 51.

 

We were talking about eyesight and seeing the ball. I said something about decreasing distances as you age being necessary because you can't see the ball if you hit it too far. He said "I know what you mean. I only carry my drives out about 240 anymore."

 

Really put the distance thing into perspective for me. If a former tour pro in relatively good physical condition, who teaches on a daily basis and plays regularly only hits his drives 240, then 220 yard drives for me seems completely reasonable.

 

Exactly, nothing wrong with that. Growing up, my dad hit it 280, now at almost 57 years old he hits it about 220-240. 220 at 53 years old is just fine!

 

 

did a simulator for the first time.

Previously thought my "good" drives were 250-260 yds.

I hit about 12 drives on the sim: 233 carry, 244 total. 3500 RPM, average 102mph clubhead speed. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed, but a I gotta figure I'm 60, and it's a benchmark that I can now seek to improve on. My PGA pro wants the RPM done to 2500-3000. Unfortunately, I don't have the launch angle figure.

 

One of those figures is wrong... Either the distance or the swing speed. 102 swing speed should be producing roughly 260. I would guess the swing speed is off since lots of monitors screw that up.

 

Not surprising. It's possible if he's using lower compression range balls that slow down the initial flight speed or if he's not making ideal contact.

 

102 should get carries in the 240s with real balls if he makes perfect contact with optimal launch conditions.

 

http://www.golfwrx.c...s/2015/04/4.png

[mocokid]

did a simulator for the first time.

Previously thought my "good" drives were 250-260 yds.

I hit about 12 drives on the sim: 233 carry, 244 total. 3500 RPM, average 102mph clubhead speed. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed, but a I gotta figure I'm 60, and it's a benchmark that I can now seek to improve on. My PGA pro wants the RPM done to 2500-3000. Unfortunately, I don't have the launch angle figure.

 

Here are recent driver #s, constructive comments appreciated. One thing for sure, teeing it lower gets the spin down, and there's nothing like hitting it straight to get max MPH.

[Lincoln_Arcadia]

did a simulator for the first time.

Previously thought my "good" drives were 250-260 yds.

I hit about 12 drives on the sim: 233 carry, 244 total. 3500 RPM, average 102mph clubhead speed. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed, but a I gotta figure I'm 60, and it's a benchmark that I can now seek to improve on. My PGA pro wants the RPM done to 2500-3000. Unfortunately, I don't have the launch angle figure.

 

Here are recent driver #s, constructive comments appreciated. One thing for sure, teeing it lower gets the spin down, and there's nothing like hitting it straight to get max MPH.

Pretty decent numbers. You could lower your BS numbers as you've mentioned in some other posts, but other than that you're pretty consistent.

[Baitkiller]

Measured one at 318 today. (GPS) Only one of two fairways I hit. Sea level, flat ground mot much wind but with some big grass bumps down the right side. Since this is least 25 yards longer than my previous best (which was also a fluke) I am assuming that I got some backside down-slope love on the landing. Left me a flop wedge to 10 feet. Missed the putt. Normal drives usually finish up around 230 ish.