Tiger Woods 2019 Taylormade Irons...P7TW?

[jonn443]

> @justinspicer23 said:

> I don’t understand all the hate over the price, if you can’t afford em or think that’s too much then don’t buy them. You guys can stick with your black boron joints or some other expensive iron that no one actually plays or has heard of and tell everyone how much better it actually is. These are the coolest irons to come to market in a long time though and a lot of us have been looking forward to em regardless of price for a long time .

 

Great contribution...2 posts and going to venture in that discussion. Greeaaat.

 

Well, " Thanks for stopping by San Diego". Lol ?

[denvergolf]

> @jonn443 said:

> > @justinspicer23 said:

> > I don’t understand all the hate over the price, if you can’t afford em or think that’s too much then don’t buy them. You guys can stick with your black boron joints or some other expensive iron that no one actually plays or has heard of and tell everyone how much better it actually is. These are the coolest irons to come to market in a long time though and a lot of us have been looking forward to em regardless of price for a long time .

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> Great contribution...2 posts and going to venture in that discussion. Greeaaat.

>

> Well, " Thanks for stopping by San Diego". Lol ?

 

What is the number of posts that would make him eligible to participate in the conversation?

[justinspicer23]

 

> Great contribution...2 posts and going to venture in that discussion. Greeaaat.

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> Well, " Thanks for stopping by San Diego". Lol ?

 

Technically its “you stay classy San Diego” or “thanks for stopping by” but I appreciate the effort .

 

 

 

 

[jonn443]

> @justinspicer23 said:

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> > Great contribution...2 posts and going to venture in that discussion. Greeaaat.

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> > Well, " Thanks for stopping by San Diego". Lol ?

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> Technically its “you stay classy San Diego” or “thanks for stopping by” but I appreciate the effort .

 

Jokes on you sunshine...lol.

Check out 5:45

I (don't) appreciate your effort... Pretty weak.

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[bladehunter]

> @denvergolf said:

> > @jonn443 said:

> > > @justinspicer23 said:

> > > I don’t understand all the hate over the price, if you can’t afford em or think that’s too much then don’t buy them. You guys can stick with your black boron joints or some other expensive iron that no one actually plays or has heard of and tell everyone how much better it actually is. These are the coolest irons to come to market in a long time though and a lot of us have been looking forward to em regardless of price for a long time .

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> > Great contribution...2 posts and going to venture in that discussion. Greeaaat.

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> > Well, " Thanks for stopping by San Diego". Lol ?

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> What is the number of posts that would make him eligible to participate in the conversation?

 

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[BearQ]

Wrx is a war zone lately. Little battle here little battle there

 

A peace communion must be reached soon

 

The general feelings on the boards is heated, along with threads like this.

 

I feel like we needled TM enough for now. They gave us reasonable info and answers. It’s not everything we’d like to know for sure I agree. But we are ruining the thread for the hard working players who have invested in this beautiful set. So probably should redirect focus in this thread a bit. That’s all. Can still ask questions and such. But less firey and attack feeling. We’re getting into the conspiracy stuff with rogue TM spies in the thread lol.

 

 

[denvergolf]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @denvergolf said:

> > > @jonn443 said:

> > > > @justinspicer23 said:

> > > > I don’t understand all the hate over the price, if you can’t afford em or think that’s too much then don’t buy them. You guys can stick with your black boron joints or some other expensive iron that no one actually plays or has heard of and tell everyone how much better it actually is. These are the coolest irons to come to market in a long time though and a lot of us have been looking forward to em regardless of price for a long time .

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> > > Great contribution...2 posts and going to venture in that discussion. Greeaaat.

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> > > Well, " Thanks for stopping by San Diego". Lol ?

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> > What is the number of posts that would make him eligible to participate in the conversation?

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Oh come on, I missed it and it had to be something good, even if at my expense!

[ghoonk]

> @BearQ said:

> Wrx is a war zone lately. Little battle here little battle there

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> A peace communion must be reached soon

>

> The general feelings on the boards is heated, along with threads like this.

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> I feel like we needled TM enough for now. They gave us reasonable info and answers. It’s not everything we’d like to know for sure I agree. But we are ruining the thread for the hard working players who have invested in this beautiful set. So probably should redirect focus in this thread a bit. That’s all. Can still ask questions and such. But less firey and attack feeling. We’re getting into the conspiracy stuff with rogue TM spies in the thread lol.

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What surprises me is the fact that so many people are debating whether these clubs are worth it or not. It's an age-old debate common in photography (Leica vs everyone else) and art (seriously, $8000 for THAT??!?!).

 

At the end of the day, a manufacturer brings a product to market, and people can (and really should) vote with their wallets. The P7TW isn't a mass market product. Neither are Miura irons. Or National Custom Works irons (beautiful). Or Fujimoto. I wouldn't spend money on a pair of Golden Goose Dynamic Brand (GGDB) sneakers, or the recent stuff from Balenciaga, or Y-3, but I know people who do, and I don't tell them what a waste of money it is, and how they should be spending their money.

 

This stuff is like religion - I won't go around dissing on someone else's religion, and I wouldn't like it if someone dissed on mine. Two people can have a mature, constructive discussion and agree to disagree in the end, but there must at least be respect.

 

Coming back on topic, I'm really curious to see (1) how they compare against my 501s, and (2) if anyone is going to take them apart in the coming weeks to share how 'precise' TM has made these. The claim is that these are all built within tight tolerances - tight by TW's standards - but is TM referring only to head production or for the entire club (swingweight, etc)? Not that it'd make a difference to my game, but I'm curious to see how far they went

[bladehunter]

> @ghoonk said:

> > @BearQ said:

> > Wrx is a war zone lately. Little battle here little battle there

> >

> > A peace communion must be reached soon

> >

> > The general feelings on the boards is heated, along with threads like this.

> >

> > I feel like we needled TM enough for now. They gave us reasonable info and answers. It’s not everything we’d like to know for sure I agree. But we are ruining the thread for the hard working players who have invested in this beautiful set. So probably should redirect focus in this thread a bit. That’s all. Can still ask questions and such. But less firey and attack feeling. We’re getting into the conspiracy stuff with rogue TM spies in the thread lol.

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> What surprises me is the fact that so many people are debating whether these clubs are worth it or not. It's an age-old debate common in photography (Leica vs everyone else) and art (seriously, $8000 for THAT??!?!).

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> At the end of the day, a manufacturer brings a product to market, and people can (and really should) vote with their wallets. The P7TW isn't a mass market product. Neither are Miura irons. Or National Custom Works irons (beautiful). Or Fujimoto. I wouldn't spend money on a pair of Golden Goose Dynamic Brand (GGDB) sneakers, or the recent stuff from Balenciaga, or Y-3, but I know people who do, and I don't tell them what a waste of money it is, and how they should be spending their money.

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> This stuff is like religion - I won't go around dissing on someone else's religion, and I wouldn't like it if someone dissed on mine. Two people can have a mature, constructive discussion and agree to disagree in the end, but there must at least be respect.

>

> Coming back on topic, I'm really curious to see (1) how they compare against my 501s, and (2) if anyone is going to take them apart in the coming weeks to share how 'precise' TM has made these. The claim is that these are all built within tight tolerances - tight by TW's standards - but is TM referring only to head production or for the entire club (swingweight, etc)? Not that it'd make a difference to my game, but I'm curious to see how far they went

 

A lot more going on than just price talk. It’s not the $2k for irons. I’ve owned and played everything from Miura BB to raw miura tournament blades to pga tour van set of raw, blank , handground Vega ( Kyoei ) blades that literally we’re as fine as a any iron you can imagine. Works of art.

 

With these it’s the combination of TM , MT , $2k and TW ...... TM can sell these at a premium markup because of TW and MT...... otherwise it’s a 730 which as I’ve said drops to half value once you hit a ball. And a 730 owner here has confirmed he’d sell his for half of me now. Which tells me he knows they are worth less than that. Lol

 

Now you add in the fact that most of these are no longer limited at all. So the upcharge isn’t for collectibility , so what’s it for ? We also do not know who is getting the supposed limited sets and who isn’t. And I’ve posed the question 4x. Are the guys getting limited boxes paying same as the ones who aren’t ? If so. Why?

 

How you can place an order and not have that answer. I don’t know.

 

Another funny fact. I’ll probably have a set of these quickly. And I’ll build to my specs. And I’ll post what I find on the head weights compared to the competitors miura etc when I do. Good or bad. Same as I have with the m6 who’s release I hated. But club I loved.

 

[cnnmaverick]

I'm very intrigued by this set - and I'm saying this while I own and love my Miura MB001 blades. The low offset, increased bounce and thin top line all sounds fantastic!

 

That said I'll be waiting for them to drop significantly in price. I'm firmly in the camp of companies charging whatever they want and people voting with their wallet. However, 2k for me is way too steep especially before getting fit properly. The tech is the same as the 730s and I'm not buying that the mill grind adds anything apart from looking sexy as hell (I mean really - how many of us are going to be able to tell the difference of 0.1mm???).

 

Last comment : the other posters were spot on. I just checked prices on the bay and I CANNOT BELIEVE how much prices for the 730 dropped already!! They're barely $500 in great condition. Wow!

[3fiddyz]

Guess they better start knocking out a few more sets...

[SoloShot84]

Sold!

[1s1k]

Mine will be for sale for $5k. PM me to get in line. LOL

[TheMoneyShot]

I’m really happy I got a set of these now!!

[Classic 59]

Me Too! Still going to play them!!

[BearQ]

TM going for trillions now

[mBiden2]

What a win for the big cat! And what great timing for the release of his irons!

[cota0429]

Get in line now boys!!!

[tpgrrr1]

Well played Taylormade, well played

[puttingmatt]

The Taylormade P7TW 's just got its greatest endorsement with Tiger's Master win !

[TheMoneyShot]

Full blown release for sure now!!

[Kylekoz17]

> @Anser said:

> Help me understand. Why would anyone want to buy these? Because a guy who may win a few more times before his career is over is using a set that sort of looks like them? They're nice looking blades but nothing different than any others that are available. What happens when he changes irons 2 weeks after your set comes in?

> I've just never understood the jockgrabbing of having to have "the same thing that pro guy is using"

> So explain like I'm a golden retriever or a small child :)

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Still the needle. Just going to leave this here ?

 

[TheMoneyShot]

> @Kylekoz17 said:

> > @Anser said:

> > Help me understand. Why would anyone want to buy these? Because a guy who may win a few more times before his career is over is using a set that sort of looks like them? They're nice looking blades but nothing different than any others that are available. What happens when he changes irons 2 weeks after your set comes in?

> > I've just never understood the jockgrabbing of having to have "the same thing that pro guy is using"

> > So explain like I'm a golden retriever or a small child :)

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> Still the needle. Just going to leave this here ?

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More crow being served..

 

[TaylorMade Golf]

Sold out. #15

 

[Golfingfanatic]

Not that I am interested in buying them, but I just added them to the cart on the TM site and the earliest shipping date is 09/18/2020? That's seems surreal. No one is going to wait more than a year for his set of irons to arrive lol

[TheMoneyShot]

> @"TaylorMade Golf" said:

> Sold out. #15

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Sold out? You better make a lot more!

 

[jll62]

> @Golfingfanatic said:

> Not that I am interested in buying them, but I just added them to the cart on the TM site and the earliest shipping date is 09/18/2020? That's seems surreal. No one is going to wait more than a year for his set of irons to arrive lol

 

The description on the P7TW page says another run in Summer.

 

_Do to popular demand, most configurations are out of stock, you can still place an order for our second delivery expected to arrive this summer_

[TheMoneyShot]

I just built a set and it said July 2019. At least they will make more, just need to be patient with this one!

[chazpet]

I'm looking on the site, and it appears the clubs can ship as early as 7/12/2019, but the TV cord grips are what delay it to 9/18/2020. Quite a long time, but if people really want the irons like Tiger I'm sure they will wait for them, or just order with different grips and replace with the TV cord. I unfortunately don't have the cash to get them, especially considering I just got some VPCs this past season! Will definitely look for a set eventually though...

[TheMoneyShot]

I guess that answers the question about if these would sell or not.....