Jordan Speith worse drought is yet to come

[duffer987]

Take the shot. I've read he's already a hall of famer... If he is so is Padraig. And eyes would roll at that one and Harrington has had a better career. So what he "is" so far is a talented player with a great start to his career that has been struggling. He'll probably turn it around but the basic promise of the thread really is "what if he doesn't".

 

PS you don't like the thread because you like Spieth. But it's winter and it's wrx. Happens every year. A year ago it was Tiger is done.

 

Padraig is already hall of famer so whats the insult inferred here?

Indeed.

3 Majors | 18 wins between the Euro & PGA tour | 6 Ryder Cups (4 wins) ... that's a really misguided slight.

[Shilgy]

Shilgy - "not one post said anything different as I recall "

 

Not really. The original post in this thread is a redonculous projection of unfiltered under bridge talk.

 

 

And then MBA let's us know how bad it is to have a slump when he lets us know that the all time greats had skills that lasted forever. Somehow he missed Jacks short game yips , Putting around bunkers , and compete wedge game rebuild by Phil Rogers . His winless 79 season among several other slumps. And I guess Tiger never missed a beat. Lmao. Whatever man. This game is hard. Slumps are common. Almost inevitable. I can spot people saying he needs to pick it up. He needs to get his head right. He needs to refocus etc. that's all very true. But there's another set that have been loud since he came onto the scene. And the talk alwasy centers around how ugly the swing is and how lucky he has been to fall backward into those wins. They are the P-ositions swing gurus. Always P this and that. And the luck. I mean. It's amazing. Lol.

 

As posted. Even with the slump he's step for step winning percentage with Phil. Who may well get a us open and for sure will be called top ten all time. That's ok in anybody's book. The opposite most certainly has been said.

 

Not really shot at you. But at this thread in general

Take the shot. I've read he's already a hall of famer... If he is so is Padraig. And eyes would roll at that one and Harrington has had a better career. So what he "is" so far is a talented player with a great start to his career that has been struggling. He'll probably turn it around but the basic promise of the thread really is "what if he doesn't".

 

PS you don't like the thread because you like Spieth. But it's winter and it's wrx. Happens every year. A year ago it was Tiger is done.

 

Padraig is already hall of famer so whats the insult inferred here?

Who was making an insult?

 

It really must be winter on wrx. When Padraig gets in there will be a lot of questions of worthiness.

[Hawkeye77]

Shilgy - "not one post said anything different as I recall "

 

Not really. The original post in this thread is a redonculous projection of unfiltered under bridge talk.

 

 

And then MBA let's us know how bad it is to have a slump when he lets us know that the all time greats had skills that lasted forever. Somehow he missed Jacks short game yips , Putting around bunkers , and compete wedge game rebuild by Phil Rogers . His winless 79 season among several other slumps. And I guess Tiger never missed a beat. Lmao. Whatever man. This game is hard. Slumps are common. Almost inevitable. I can spot people saying he needs to pick it up. He needs to get his head right. He needs to refocus etc. that's all very true. But there's another set that have been loud since he came onto the scene. And the talk alwasy centers around how ugly the swing is and how lucky he has been to fall backward into those wins. They are the P-ositions swing gurus. Always P this and that. And the luck. I mean. It's amazing. Lol.

 

As posted. Even with the slump he's step for step winning percentage with Phil. Who may well get a us open and for sure will be called top ten all time. That's ok in anybody's book. The opposite most certainly has been said.

 

Not really shot at you. But at this thread in general

Take the shot. I've read he's already a hall of famer... If he is so is Padraig. And eyes would roll at that one and Harrington has had a better career. So what he "is" so far is a talented player with a great start to his career that has been struggling. He'll probably turn it around but the basic promise of the thread really is "what if he doesn't".

 

PS you don't like the thread because you like Spieth. But it's winter and it's wrx. Happens every year. A year ago it was Tiger is done.

 

Padraig is already hall of famer so whats the insult inferred here?

Who was making an insult?

 

It really must be winter on wrx. When Padraig gets in there will be a lot of questions of worthiness.

 

Only of Fred Couples and Davis Love III.

[BC33]

I missed the part where the PGA Tour handed out trophies to the first round leader. If that was the case, Ryan Palmer may have won more tournaments than Sam Snead.

 

Don't forget Charley Hoffman, hell, he'd have a couple green jackets!

[Danny Choo]

Again some are counting chickens before they hatch. We have 54 holes to go and the noise is that Spieth has humbled Choo. Do not turn this into some hate campaign as it never was. I have no reason to hate or promote any dislike for JS, too nice a guy. Let us stick with the facts and that is I believe he has a long road ahead and I remain firm on my belief. Can I be proven wrong? Absolutely, look at whom the critics said he was done, but he won and silenced them. Will he win this weekend? He will not, the competition is up his throat and those close to him are proven finishers. And for those hoping for him to win a major in 2019, enjoy your dreams because you will wake up in 2020 and you will be brought to reality.

[bladehunter]

Again some are counting chickens before they hatch. We have 54 holes to go and the noise is that Spieth has humbled Choo. Do not turn this into some hate campaign as it never was. I have no reason to hate or promote any dislike for JS, too nice a guy. Let us stick with the facts and that is I believe he has a long road ahead and I remain firm on my belief. Can I be proven wrong? Absolutely, look at �� whom the critics said he was done, but he won and silenced them. Will he win this weekend? He will not, the competition is up his throat and those close to him are proven finishers. And for those hoping for him to win a major in 2019, enjoy your dreams because you will wake up in 2020 and you will be brought to reality.

 

Choo. We all hope to have a “ long road ahead “. That’s the captain obvious statement of the day.

 

 

But thanks for doubling down on the predictions.

[Roadking2003]

I missed the part where the PGA Tour handed out trophies to the first round leader. If that was the case, Ryan Palmer may have won more tournaments than Sam Snead.

 

Troll on bud. Troll on.

 

Give him some respect - he's an "MBA".

 

Lol. Damn your quick.

 

I just can't understand how a guy who I do not argue is a smart guy , can't see how silly this thread is from the first post on. Why he'd want to align himself With that idea. Then double down after someone has posted that he wins at a clip equal to Phil's , he's risen 40 some odd places in strokes gained putting this year , and he's lead in the last two tournaments he's played ( sure he also played a couple bad holes and shot him self out ). Then goes out and shoots 64 in the mud . This guy doubles down and still agrees that this kid will be outside the top 100 at the end of the year. I'm not sure that's mathematically possible if he wd from every event. Lol.

 

No he's hurt because spieths showing signs of improvement and the " chicken wing lucky " crowd will have to crawl back under their bridges.

 

He's already had a Hall of Fame level career with the three majors and 10 overall wins. He could have won two other Opens and two other Masters titles. Yeah, he's just "lucky". Tiger gave people an unrealistic view of how much a "great" player should win. He's a historical anomaly. Spieth is a historically great player by any measure, and he's only 25. Any argument to the contrary is just tortured trolling.

 

Actually, he has 11 PGA Tour wins.

[MBA-J]

I missed the part where the PGA Tour handed out trophies to the first round leader. If that was the case, Ryan Palmer may have won more tournaments than Sam Snead.

 

Troll on bud. Troll on.

 

Give him some respect - he's an "MBA".

 

Lol. Damn your quick.

 

I just can't understand how a guy who I do not argue is a smart guy , can't see how silly this thread is from the first post on. Why he'd want to align himself With that idea. Then double down after someone has posted that he wins at a clip equal to Phil's , he's risen 40 some odd places in strokes gained putting this year , and he's lead in the last two tournaments he's played ( sure he also played a couple bad holes and shot him self out ). Then goes out and shoots 64 in the mud . This guy doubles down and still agrees that this kid will be outside the top 100 at the end of the year. I'm not sure that's mathematically possible if he wd from every event. Lol.

 

No he's hurt because spieths showing signs of improvement and the " chicken wing lucky " crowd will have to crawl back under their bridges.

 

While I appreciate the backhanded compliment, I struggle to source where I said that he would "be out of the top 100 by the end of the year." Nor have I ever claimed to be hurt by anything related to 25YearOldJordan Speith.

 

Trolls attempt to rouse rabble by being intentionally contrary or disruptive. I just presented a case as to why I don't think that he's as good as everyone claims.

 

Did he screw up basic wedge shots at the Masters? Yes. Did he make everything and now been accused by Hank Haney of having the yips? Yes. Has Johnny Miller called his swing a "chicken wing?" Yes. Has he taken a significant step back in the OWGR and other stats on the PGA Tour? Yes. Using your logic, are the CBS Sports camera operators, Hank Haney, Johnny Miller, and PGATOUR.com statisticians "trolls?"

 

Again, you can like who you like, but that doesn't prevent me from seeing what I see.

 

And for dwboston, I also have another Master's Degree, but "Information Systems-J" just didn't have the same ring to it.

[dwboston]

And for dwboston, I also have another Master's Degree, but "Information Systems-J" just didn't have the same ring to it.

 

As do I - I just don't see the need to advertise them on a golf forum.

[bladehunter]

I missed the part where the PGA Tour handed out trophies to the first round leader. If that was the case, Ryan Palmer may have won more tournaments than Sam Snead.

 

Troll on bud. Troll on.

 

Give him some respect - he's an "MBA".

 

Lol. Damn your quick.

 

I just can't understand how a guy who I do not argue is a smart guy , can't see how silly this thread is from the first post on. Why he'd want to align himself With that idea. Then double down after someone has posted that he wins at a clip equal to Phil's , he's risen 40 some odd places in strokes gained putting this year , and he's lead in the last two tournaments he's played ( sure he also played a couple bad holes and shot him self out ). Then goes out and shoots 64 in the mud . This guy doubles down and still agrees that this kid will be outside the top 100 at the end of the year. I'm not sure that's mathematically possible if he wd from every event. Lol.

 

No he's hurt because spieths showing signs of improvement and the " chicken wing lucky " crowd will have to crawl back under their bridges.

 

While I appreciate the backhanded compliment, I struggle to source where I said that he would "be out of the top 100 by the end of the year." Nor have I ever claimed to be hurt by anything related to 25YearOldJordan Speith.

 

Trolls attempt to rouse rabble by being intentionally contrary or disruptive. I just presented a case as to why I don't think that he's as good as everyone claims.

 

Did he screw up basic wedge shots at the Masters? Yes. Did he make everything and now been accused by Hank Haney of having the yips? Yes. Has Johnny Miller called his swing a "chicken wing?" Yes. Has he taken a significant step back in the OWGR and other stats on the PGA Tour? Yes. Using your logic, are the CBS Sports camera operators, Hank Haney, Johnny Miller, and PGATOUR.com statisticians "trolls?"

 

Again, you can like who you like, but that doesn't prevent me from seeing what I see.

 

And for dwboston, I also have another Master's Degree, but "Information Systems-J" just didn't have the same ring to it.

 

Just letting you know what the OP says and what you had aligned with. If you have a change of heart. It’s all good. I can’t say that I blame you.

[lowheel]

Shilgy - "not one post said anything different as I recall "

 

Not really. The original post in this thread is a redonculous projection of unfiltered under bridge talk.

 

 

And then MBA let's us know how bad it is to have a slump when he lets us know that the all time greats had skills that lasted forever. Somehow he missed Jacks short game yips , Putting around bunkers , and compete wedge game rebuild by Phil Rogers . His winless 79 season among several other slumps. And I guess Tiger never missed a beat. Lmao. Whatever man. This game is hard. Slumps are common. Almost inevitable. I can spot people saying he needs to pick it up. He needs to get his head right. He needs to refocus etc. that's all very true. But there's another set that have been loud since he came onto the scene. And the talk alwasy centers around how ugly the swing is and how lucky he has been to fall backward into those wins. They are the P-ositions swing gurus. Always P this and that. And the luck. I mean. It's amazing. Lol.

 

As posted. Even with the slump he's step for step winning percentage with Phil. Who may well get a us open and for sure will be called top ten all time. That's ok in anybody's book. The opposite most certainly has been said.

 

Not really shot at you. But at this thread in general

Take the shot. I've read he's already a hall of famer... If he is so is Padraig. And eyes would roll at that one and Harrington has had a better career. So what he "is" so far is a talented player with a great start to his career that has been struggling. He'll probably turn it around but the basic promise of the thread really is "what if he doesn't".

 

PS you don't like the thread because you like Spieth. But it's winter and it's wrx. Happens every year. A year ago it was Tiger is done.

 

Padraig is already hall of famer so whats the insult inferred here?

Who was making an insult?

 

It really must be winter on wrx. When Padraig gets in there will be a lot of questions of worthiness.

 

Yeah because thats never happened before? I didnt bring up Padraig you did with the purpose to demean one or the other. I think you know this

[MBA-J]

And for dwboston, I also have another Master's Degree, but "Information Systems-J" just didn't have the same ring to it.

 

As do I - I just don't see the need to advertise them on a golf forum.

 

Neither do I, as I've never qualified any of my posts by referencing my education. I've been a member of this forum for almost fourteen (14) years, and you're the only member that has ever taken that position. Nevertheless, I've never taken any personal positions against you, and I won't start today.

 

Congratulations on your educational achievements and keep rooting for your man. I'll keep calling it how I see it.

[Shilgy]

Shilgy - "not one post said anything different as I recall "

 

Not really. The original post in this thread is a redonculous projection of unfiltered under bridge talk.

 

 

And then MBA let's us know how bad it is to have a slump when he lets us know that the all time greats had skills that lasted forever. Somehow he missed Jacks short game yips , Putting around bunkers , and compete wedge game rebuild by Phil Rogers . His winless 79 season among several other slumps. And I guess Tiger never missed a beat. Lmao. Whatever man. This game is hard. Slumps are common. Almost inevitable. I can spot people saying he needs to pick it up. He needs to get his head right. He needs to refocus etc. that's all very true. But there's another set that have been loud since he came onto the scene. And the talk alwasy centers around how ugly the swing is and how lucky he has been to fall backward into those wins. They are the P-ositions swing gurus. Always P this and that. And the luck. I mean. It's amazing. Lol.

 

As posted. Even with the slump he's step for step winning percentage with Phil. Who may well get a us open and for sure will be called top ten all time. That's ok in anybody's book. The opposite most certainly has been said.

 

Not really shot at you. But at this thread in general

Take the shot. I've read he's already a hall of famer... If he is so is Padraig. And eyes would roll at that one and Harrington has had a better career. So what he "is" so far is a talented player with a great start to his career that has been struggling. He'll probably turn it around but the basic promise of the thread really is "what if he doesn't".

 

PS you don't like the thread because you like Spieth. But it's winter and it's wrx. Happens every year. A year ago it was Tiger is done.

 

Padraig is already hall of famer so whats the insult inferred here?

Who was making an insult?

 

It really must be winter on wrx. When Padraig gets in there will be a lot of questions of worthiness.

 

Yeah because thats never happened before? I didnt bring up Padraig you did with the purpose to demean one or the other. I think you know this

Some of you try to read to much into posts. Will some say Padraig is undeserving? The numbers every year mentioned are bare minimum 20 wins and a couple majors. Many will diminish the win total because only six are PGA Tour and the rest Euro in an era where many of the top world players are playing mostly on the US tour.

I didn't say either is undeserving, take posts at face value rather than supposing intent that isn't there.

[benno_r]

You cats watching ?

 

Yep we are. Are you?

[Titleist_PT23]

You cats watching ?

 

Yep we are. Are you?

He's grinding...to a halt

[cardoustie]

Spieth will remain a streaky player. ... he can win if he gets the putter back and manages his driver misses

[A.Princey]

It's hard to watch today

[00steven]

Add me to the list of people officially concerned now.

[straightshot7]

He's approaching "head case" status. Not saying it's irreversible but it looks bad. He's griping about some mark on the green on that missed 5 footer? If you can fix ball-marks and now spike marks, what could the mark be that he couldn't fix? It looked like he actually just pulled his head up early on the putt.

[trackcoach13]

Add me to the list of people officially concerned now.

I am concerned because what I see is mental. I heard him on the telecast griping about how he needed at least 5 mins on the range but without that he was ... ? 5 mins on the range? That is the difference to competing and shooting 80? Sorry Jordan you need a shrink.

[trackcoach13]

He's approaching "head case" status.

 

That is what his issue is in a nutshell. A headcase for sure.

[deadsolid...shank]

Tiger maybe getting a little tired?

[cardoustie]

YJS so mentally weak, time needed on couch talking with Dr. Choo Choo

[Shilgy]

YJS might be over par for the event after the 10th.

[tjl48]

I need video of this.

[Pent08]

Spieth +10 through 10. 80 watch is alive and well.

[deadsolid...shank]

Maybe Danny Choo is right!?

[Titleist_PT23]

:help: :help: :help:

[cardoustie]

I need video of his tenth meltdown, priceless is my guess

[Titleist_PT23]

He blow the birdie putt on 11 or it was a tough one?