Koepka defends title; shows charisma with fist pump; glfwrx goes wild

[thevaporz]

I'll roll with Molinari 25/1 and Finau 35/1.

[jtitleist12]

> @JaNelson38 said:

> > @jtitleist12 said:

> > I'm sorry if I have missed it, but how is Rich Beem able to play in this tournament?

>

> He beat Tiger in the 2002 PGA. Former champions are exempt to the PGA Championship until they are 65 years old, if they choose to play.

 

Yes I remember he was a past champion with his win in '02, but didn't realize it was that long of an exemption. Thanks!

[grm24]

> @jtitleist12 said:

> I'm sorry if I have missed it, but how is Rich Beem able to play in this tournament?

Same way as John Daly is. Past PGA Champion.

 

Good story on Beem.

https://golfweek.com/2019/05/12/19th-hole-rich-beem-playing-pga-championship-doesnt-care/

[legitimategolf]

> @grm24 said:

> > @jtitleist12 said:

> > I'm sorry if I have missed it, but how is Rich Beem able to play in this tournament?

> Same way as John Daly is. Past PGA Champion.

>

> Good story on Beem.

> https://golfweek.com/2019/05/12/19th-hole-rich-beem-playing-pga-championship-doesnt-care/

 

Having these distinguished past champions in the field testifies to the overall prestige and dignity of this championship. In fact I question the worth of any championship that does _not_ allow its past champions to play for as long as they feel like.

[flushem]

The largest wager on the PGA Championship just came in on Tiger at 10/1

 

From Bloomberg on LV betting,

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-14/tiger-woods-creating-mayhem-bookies-managing-risk-pga-championship

[lowheel]

> @thevaporz said:

> I'll roll with Molinari 25/1 and Finau 35/1.

 

Molinari at 25/1 is great value.

 

 

[dolfinack]

Going this year for the first time but seeing that no bags are allowed. What is this madness? Is it enforced? Surely they can't expect you to go without carrying provisions / clothing etc.

[fillwelix]

> @dolfinack said:

> Going this year for the first time but seeing that no bags are allowed. What is this madness? Is it enforced? Surely they can't expect you to go without carrying provisions / clothing etc.

 

Not sure if they'll stop you from bringing a drawstring bag, but if they do just go get a free one from the advertising kiosks, they usually give away a ton of free stuff, bags included

[Darth Putter]

> @legitimategolf said:

> > @grm24 said:

> > > @jtitleist12 said:

> > > I'm sorry if I have missed it, but how is Rich Beem able to play in this tournament?

> > Same way as John Daly is. Past PGA Champion.

> >

> > Good story on Beem.

> > https://golfweek.com/2019/05/12/19th-hole-rich-beem-playing-pga-championship-doesnt-care/

>

> Having these distinguished past champions in the field testifies to the overall prestige and dignity of this championship. In fact I question the worth of any championship that does _not_ allow its past champions to play for as long as they feel like.

 

Three out of the four majors let the past champions play to age 60-65 ish. The US Open is the one that doesn't.

[Rangeballz]

> @dolfinack said:

> Going this year for the first time but seeing that no bags are allowed. Surely they can't expect you to go without carrying provisions......

 

Are you summiting Everest? What type of provisions do you require?

 

[gvogel]

> @Ferguson said:

> Did a little reading about AW Tillinghast. That dude was an animal, vintage lampshade at parties and everything. He loved to indulge and defined a typical well-to-do roaring 20's man about town.

>

 

Yes, apparently he traveled with a flask (during Prohibition) - everywhere!

[gvogel]

> @Ferguson said:

> This tournament will be won by the guy who can adjust to playing in cooler and slower conditions. It will take a combination of course knowledge and patience to stay out of the penal rough and bunkers and get his named engraved on Sunday. The guy who has his approach game under control will be best suited. The bombers will be tested.

>

>

 

So you're saying that Tiger is a lock.

[flushem]

Other Odds:

 

Winning Score: 272.5

Cut Score: 145.5

Lowest Round Shot: 64.5

 

Tiger Woods/Dustin Johnson/Brooks Koepka/Rory McIlroy Win PGA Championship?

Yes +225

No -275

 

Tiger’s Lowest Round Shot: 67.5

 

More odds to come.

[gvogel]

> @"Long Shot" said:

> Spring in the last 5 or so years (maybe more) has been non-existent. We have had brutal March Like weather, wind and cold until late may early June, then poof... it turns to summer. Not like it used to be, when we had four distinct seasons on Long Island.

 

Welcome to my world. Spring always comes late to Buffalo because of the ice in Lake Erie, but this year it's been brutal. I haven't been able to play yet. League is supposed to start Thursday after a rain out last week; the course is going to be a swamp. Literally.

[Ferguson]

> @gvogel said:

> > @Ferguson said:

> > This tournament will be won by the guy who can adjust to playing in cooler and slower conditions. It will take a combination of course knowledge and patience to stay out of the penal rough and bunkers and get his named engraved on Sunday. The guy who has his approach game under control will be best suited. The bombers will be tested.

> >

> >

>

> So you're saying that Tiger is a lock.

 

I'm saying this tournament will won by the player who can adjust to playing a typically fast course in May temperatures. Using a combination of course knowledge and patience will help him to steer clear of the penal rough and sand traps. Greens in regulation and accuracy from the tee will define the winner.

 

[Long Shot]

> @gvogel said:

> > @"Long Shot" said:

> > Spring in the last 5 or so years (maybe more) has been non-existent. We have had brutal March Like weather, wind and cold until late may early June, then poof... it turns to summer. Not like it used to be, when we had four distinct seasons on Long Island.

>

> Welcome to my world. Spring always comes late to Buffalo because of the ice in Lake Erie, but this year it's been brutal. I haven't been able to play yet. League is supposed to start Thursday after a rain out last week; the course is going to be a swamp. Literally.

 

I am a graduate of UB (played Football and Wrestled for them in the 90's), I know Buffalo well!

[WidespreadPanic]

Does anyone know why JT withdrew?

[gvogel]

> @WidespreadPanic said:

> Does anyone know why JT withdrew?

 

Wrist injury.

[gvogel]

> @"Long Shot" said:

> > @gvogel said:

> > > @"Long Shot" said:

> > > Spring in the last 5 or so years (maybe more) has been non-existent. We have had brutal March Like weather, wind and cold until late may early June, then poof... it turns to summer. Not like it used to be, when we had four distinct seasons on Long Island.

> >

> > Welcome to my world. Spring always comes late to Buffalo because of the ice in Lake Erie, but this year it's been brutal. I haven't been able to play yet. League is supposed to start Thursday after a rain out last week; the course is going to be a swamp. Literally.

>

> I am a graduate of UB (played Football and Wrestled for them in the 90's), I know Buffalo well!

 

Small world. I got a masters in business at nights, and now work as an accountant at the School of Management.

[2putttom]

> @lowheel said:

> > @thevaporz said:

> > I'll roll with Molinari 25/1 and Finau 35/1.

>

> Molinari at 25/1 is great value.

>

>

 

I like this + 1 however, something tells me Tiger wants to exit stage right with Jacks record in tow, before he turns 45

[SwooshLT]

And Brandel still doubting Tiger.....I mean c'mon, just stand up and say it.....you hate the man....

[Big A HG]

> @" SwooshLT" said:

> And Brandel still doubting Tiger.....I mean c'mon, just stand up and say it.....you hate the man....

 

I'm not sure what Brandel is saying now (and it's no mystery that he's not Tiger's biggest fan), but I LOVE Tiger and even I don't see this as being a great fit for him right now. Pebble Beach will be an absolutely perfect fit for him at the US Open, though. Pebble will be a course that demands accuracy with irons and a good short game over length and accuracy off the tee due. Bethpage is just a monster and if you aren't long and accurate off the tee, it really diminishes how good the rest of your game is.

[Darth Putter]

Vijay Singh out due to back injury.

JT Poston is now in the field.

If there is another withdrawal, Slovakia's golfing GOAT Rory Sabbatini will enter the field.

[QuigleyDU]

> @"Big A HG" said:

> > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > And Brandel still doubting Tiger.....I mean c'mon, just stand up and say it.....you hate the man....

>

> I'm not sure what Brandel is saying now (and it's no mystery that he's not Tiger's biggest fan), but I LOVE Tiger and even I don't see this as being a great fit for him right now. Pebble Beach will be an absolutely perfect fit for him at the US Open, though. Pebble will be a course that demands accuracy with irons and a good short game over length and accuracy off the tee due. Bethpage is just a monster and if you aren't long and accurate off the tee, it really diminishes how good the rest of your game is.

 

Bethpage and Pebble are not his favs contrary to popular belief. I don't see either really being a good fit. Just because he lapped the field once back when he was out of his mind and this world good does not mean he will do it again. DJ or Phil (who won already this year at pebble) are much better picks for the US open.

[Burt Chance]

 

> Bethpage and Pebble are not his favs contrary to popular belief. I don't see either really being a good fit. Just because he lapped the field once back when he was out of his mind and this world good does not mean he will do it again. DJ or Phil (who won already this year at pebble) are much better picks for the US open.

 

Tiger has won at Pebble more than once. He also finished T-4 in the 2010 US Open.

 

 

[Darth Putter]

This major will have quite the effect on another major.

 

Anyone in the Top 60 in the OWGR after this week qualifies for the US Open.

 

You can make a big move in the OWGR this week.

 

The other point where being in the Top 60 gets in the US Open is June 10th.

[Big A HG]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @"Big A HG" said:

> > > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > > And Brandel still doubting Tiger.....I mean c'mon, just stand up and say it.....you hate the man....

> >

> > I'm not sure what Brandel is saying now (and it's no mystery that he's not Tiger's biggest fan), but I LOVE Tiger and even I don't see this as being a great fit for him right now. Pebble Beach will be an absolutely perfect fit for him at the US Open, though. Pebble will be a course that demands accuracy with irons and a good short game over length and accuracy off the tee due. Bethpage is just a monster and if you aren't long and accurate off the tee, it really diminishes how good the rest of your game is.

>

> Bethpage and Pebble are not his favs contrary to popular belief. I don't see either really being a good fit. Just because he lapped the field once back when he was out of his mind and this world good does not mean he will do it again. DJ or Phil (who won already this year at pebble) are much better picks for the US open.

 

I based my zero of my Pebble thoughts on his previous wins or opinions of Tiger and entirely based them on Tiger's style of game today. If you look at Carnoustie, Bellerive, and Augusta over the past few majors, his iron play really dictated his game. Playing bomb and gouge golf is no longer his game as he's mediocre from a distance point-of-view. On top of that, he's mediocre to below average from a top player standpoint with a driver. There are very few holes Tiger needs to attack with driver at Pebble if he doesn't want to, which plays right into Tiger's current game. Very few players can keep up with Tiger when his iron game is on, and his wedge game and putting has improved a lot over the last year (outside of Thursday at Augusta). I couldn't imagine a better US Open course for Tiger 2.0 right now than Pebble Beach considering the other usual US Open type courses.

[tiderider]

pebble beach is absolutely in tiger's wheelhouse ...

[tiderider]

> @MIgolfer20 said:

> Who thinks Rory is gonna make it happen?

 

he'll get a top 10 ... i am picking dj to win it ...

[QuigleyDU]

> @"Big A HG" said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > @"Big A HG" said:

> > > > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > > > And Brandel still doubting Tiger.....I mean c'mon, just stand up and say it.....you hate the man....

> > >

> > > I'm not sure what Brandel is saying now (and it's no mystery that he's not Tiger's biggest fan), but I LOVE Tiger and even I don't see this as being a great fit for him right now. Pebble Beach will be an absolutely perfect fit for him at the US Open, though. Pebble will be a course that demands accuracy with irons and a good short game over length and accuracy off the tee due. Bethpage is just a monster and if you aren't long and accurate off the tee, it really diminishes how good the rest of your game is.

> >

> > Bethpage and Pebble are not his favs contrary to popular belief. I don't see either really being a good fit. Just because he lapped the field once back when he was out of his mind and this world good does not mean he will do it again. DJ or Phil (who won already this year at pebble) are much better picks for the US open.

>

> I based my zero of my Pebble thoughts on his previous wins or opinions of Tiger and entirely based them on Tiger's style of game today. If you look at Carnoustie, Bellerive, and Augusta over the past few majors, his iron play really dictated his game. Playing bomb and gouge golf is no longer his game as he's mediocre from a distance point-of-view. On top of that, he's mediocre to below average from a top player standpoint with a driver. There are very few holes Tiger needs to attack with driver at Pebble if he doesn't want to, which plays right into Tiger's current game. Very few players can keep up with Tiger when his iron game is on, and his wedge game and putting has improved a lot over the last year (outside of Thursday at Augusta). I couldn't imagine a better US Open course for Tiger 2.0 right now than Pebble Beach considering the other usual US Open type courses.

 

I appreciate your description and I am happy to be wrong. I think distance at pebble will be of an upmost importance. They will tighten the fairways and grow the rough. That is standard practice. It is also very possible they will have weather, If nothing else winds to deal with. I think He will have to hit driver, or risk being short in the rough because he hit three wood. Laying back and missing fairways is way worse than hitting a driver and missing fairways.

 

If the course is wet at all it will play miles longer and again force him to hit driver. He is well known for his dislike of poa greens. It’s part of the reason he does not play the pro-am. Pebble greens will not only be bumpy, but fast and bumpy. That is something they will all have to deal with but, I could see it frustrating Tiger more.

 

Again, I am happy to be wrong, that is just my thinking. This week, I think it is a pick-um. I have no idea. I would love to see Rory step up and close one out again, but I don’t think he will. I think it will be a molinari or Rickie type to win it. Someone who is accurate in hitting fairways and greens. Most of the greens are reportedly flat’ish so putting is maybe but less of a necessity. What do I dunno though? I think it will be a beast throughout.