Vokey SM8

[getair23]

> @Happyday_J said:

> Curious what the bounce lineup will be. I was at a fitting in Ontario and the rep mentioned there will be 2 new offerings?

Hopefully a V-grind is one of them.

 

[Titletown]

surprised we haven't seen anything about a new Vokey wedge. i believe they launched the SM7's on tour at the Vegas event 2 years ago.

[deep18]

> @Titletown said:

> surprised we haven't seen anything about a new Vokey wedge. i believe they launched the SM7's on tour at the Vegas event 2 years ago.

 

Maybe we finally see something the next couple days. Gotta be soon.

[Carson33]

> @ThinkingPlus said:

> > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > @GC70 said:

> > > > I’m guessing we’ll have to order the Raw at $200 +?

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> > > Apparently rust is expensive. LOL.

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> > Just buy the Jet blacks and soak them in vinegar. Don’t understand why everyone who wants raw w/o paying extra doesn’t just do this.

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> I don't know why anyone wants rust. To me it is like buying a high performance sports car, stripping the paint, then letting it rust so you get this wonderful 'patina'. Looks just like every cat at the junk yard too.

 

It is not the rust. The finish is added to the wedge and rounds the edges slightly. They say they allow for the plating, but it doesn't really. Without any finish the groove edges are sharper and produce more spin.

[luke1333]

> @ThinkingPlus said:

> > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > @GC70 said:

> > > > I’m guessing we’ll have to order the Raw at $200 +?

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> > > Apparently rust is expensive. LOL.

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> > Just buy the Jet blacks and soak them in vinegar. Don’t understand why everyone who wants raw w/o paying extra doesn’t just do this.

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> I don't know why anyone wants rust. To me it is like buying a high performance sports car, stripping the paint, then letting it rust so you get this wonderful 'patina'. Looks just like every cat at the junk yard too.

 

I prefer the rusted "used" look its not like we are stripping it off its just a natural process. I don't like rusted cars though, ironic lol

[ThinkingPlus]

> @Carson33 said:

> > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > > @GC70 said:

> > > > > I’m guessing we’ll have to order the Raw at $200 +?

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> > > > Apparently rust is expensive. LOL.

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> > > Just buy the Jet blacks and soak them in vinegar. Don’t understand why everyone who wants raw w/o paying extra doesn’t just do this.

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> > I don't know why anyone wants rust. To me it is like buying a high performance sports car, stripping the paint, then letting it rust so you get this wonderful 'patina'. Looks just like every cat at the junk yard too.

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> It is not the rust. The finish is added to the wedge and rounds the edges slightly. They say they allow for the plating, but it doesn't really. Without any finish the groove edges are sharper and produce more spin.

 

Yes. I have heard you get about 100 rpm more spin on a full sand wedge when new. Not sure how long that advantage lasts once the edges start rusting. Same goes for the milling which contributes most of the spin under dry conditions anyway.

[MattyO1984]

Is it not around now that we should be seeing them? The last few releases seem to have been taken out to the Tour when they make it to Vegas.

[jak77]

Yeah I’m interested to see what they put out as well. I have the Glide 3s and Taylormade at the top of the list right now.

[jaffabell]

> @ThinkingPlus said:

> > @Carson33 said:

> > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > > > @GC70 said:

> > > > > > I’m guessing we’ll have to order the Raw at $200 +?

> > > > >

> > > > > Apparently rust is expensive. LOL.

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> > > > Just buy the Jet blacks and soak them in vinegar. Don’t understand why everyone who wants raw w/o paying extra doesn’t just do this.

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> > > I don't know why anyone wants rust. To me it is like buying a high performance sports car, stripping the paint, then letting it rust so you get this wonderful 'patina'. Looks just like every cat at the junk yard too.

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> > It is not the rust. The finish is added to the wedge and rounds the edges slightly. They say they allow for the plating, but it doesn't really. Without any finish the groove edges are sharper and produce more spin.

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> Yes. I have heard you get about 100 rpm more spin on a full sand wedge when new. Not sure how long that advantage lasts once the edges start rusting. Same goes for the milling which contributes most of the spin under dry conditions anyway.

 

That is barely measurable and hopefully nobody buys a wedge on a hope of gaining 100rpm.

[QuigleyDU]

> @ThinkingPlus said:

> > @Carson33 said:

> > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > > > @GC70 said:

> > > > > > I’m guessing we’ll have to order the Raw at $200 +?

> > > > >

> > > > > Apparently rust is expensive. LOL.

> > > >

> > > > Just buy the Jet blacks and soak them in vinegar. Don’t understand why everyone who wants raw w/o paying extra doesn’t just do this.

> > >

> > > I don't know why anyone wants rust. To me it is like buying a high performance sports car, stripping the paint, then letting it rust so you get this wonderful 'patina'. Looks just like every cat at the junk yard too.

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> > It is not the rust. The finish is added to the wedge and rounds the edges slightly. They say they allow for the plating, but it doesn't really. Without any finish the groove edges are sharper and produce more spin.

>

> Yes. I have heard you get about 100 rpm more spin on a full sand wedge when new. Not sure how long that advantage lasts once the edges start rusting. Same goes for the milling which contributes most of the spin under dry conditions anyway.

 

haha. I always laugh when I see this. rusted wedges do not increase spin. It is an aesthetic thing mainly, with maybe, a slight feel difference due to no platting. Rust reduces spin.. Think about it, it is loose material on the face, very similar to sand on the face. Does sand on the face increase spin? No, it does not.

 

That being said, I still love me some patina on wedges.

[golfva28]

Nothing spotted in Vegas this week?

[gjlang76]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > @Carson33 said:

> > > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > > > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > > > > @GC70 said:

> > > > > > > I’m guessing we’ll have to order the Raw at $200 +?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Apparently rust is expensive. LOL.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just buy the Jet blacks and soak them in vinegar. Don’t understand why everyone who wants raw w/o paying extra doesn’t just do this.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know why anyone wants rust. To me it is like buying a high performance sports car, stripping the paint, then letting it rust so you get this wonderful 'patina'. Looks just like every cat at the junk yard too.

> > >

> > > It is not the rust. The finish is added to the wedge and rounds the edges slightly. They say they allow for the plating, but it doesn't really. Without any finish the groove edges are sharper and produce more spin.

> >

> > Yes. I have heard you get about 100 rpm more spin on a full sand wedge when new. Not sure how long that advantage lasts once the edges start rusting. Same goes for the milling which contributes most of the spin under dry conditions anyway.

>

> haha. I always laugh when I see this. rusted wedges do not increase spin. It is an aesthetic thing mainly, with maybe, a slight feel difference due to no platting. Rust reduces spin.. Think about it, it is loose material on the face, very similar to sand on the face. Does sand on the face increase spin? No, it does not.

>

> That being said, I still love me some patina on wedges.

 

 

According to Voshall, non platted wedges (ones that will rust over time), will, in theory, produce slightly more spin than their platted counterparts...

 

 

[QuigleyDU]

> @gjlang76 said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > @Carson33 said:

> > > > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > > > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > > > > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > > > > > @GC70 said:

> > > > > > > > I’m guessing we’ll have to order the Raw at $200 +?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Apparently rust is expensive. LOL.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just buy the Jet blacks and soak them in vinegar. Don’t understand why everyone who wants raw w/o paying extra doesn’t just do this.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know why anyone wants rust. To me it is like buying a high performance sports car, stripping the paint, then letting it rust so you get this wonderful 'patina'. Looks just like every cat at the junk yard too.

> > > >

> > > > It is not the rust. The finish is added to the wedge and rounds the edges slightly. They say they allow for the plating, but it doesn't really. Without any finish the groove edges are sharper and produce more spin.

> > >

> > > Yes. I have heard you get about 100 rpm more spin on a full sand wedge when new. Not sure how long that advantage lasts once the edges start rusting. Same goes for the milling which contributes most of the spin under dry conditions anyway.

> >

> > haha. I always laugh when I see this. rusted wedges do not increase spin. It is an aesthetic thing mainly, with maybe, a slight feel difference due to no platting. Rust reduces spin.. Think about it, it is loose material on the face, very similar to sand on the face. Does sand on the face increase spin? No, it does not.

> >

> > That being said, I still love me some patina on wedges.

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>

> According to Voshall, non platted wedges (ones that will rust over time), will, in theory, produce slightly more spin than their platted counterparts...

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I would agree with that. I am simply saying rusted wedges spin less. Brand new raw wedges may spin more because of sharper edge geometry. I could buy that. I don't know if it is true but sure, why not? it makes sense.

[mrmikeac]

 

 

Found on eBay. Selling for only $300.00...

 

Face milling looks excellent

[Crooksc17]

Fake? It’s missing the mini grooves between the normal grooves

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> Found on eBay. Selling for only $300.00...

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> Face milling looks excellent

 

 

[QuigleyDU]

> @Crooksc17 said:

> Fake? It’s missing the mini grooves between the normal grooves

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one wedge for $300?????

[luke1333]

SM7 look better then those!

[Chilli9880]

Greg (PGA43) in the SHO discussion thread said the new wedges will be revealed at the RSM Tourney in South Carolina. So whenever that tournament is.

[carrier street]

> @Chilli9880 said:

> Greg (PGA43) in the SHO discussion thread said the new wedges will be revealed at the RSM Tourney in South Carolina. So whenever that tournament is.

 

RSM is in Georgia, but that's 11/21-11/24. So we've got a while.

 

[QuigleyDU]

> @Chilli9880 said:

> Greg (PGA43) in the SHO discussion thread said the new wedges will be revealed at the RSM Tourney in South Carolina. So whenever that tournament is.

 

So these are not the new wedges??

[deep18]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @Chilli9880 said:

> > Greg (PGA43) in the SHO discussion thread said the new wedges will be revealed at the RSM Tourney in South Carolina. So whenever that tournament is.

>

> So these are not the new wedges??

 

They could be. But the official pictures won’t be out until the RSM.

[third-times-a-charm]

Sorry but the design of these is really unimaginative. I'm not saying that means its too basic or anything, because the vokey's of old are simple and fantastic looking. I mean that I believe theyre trying to play status quo with current golf iron designs and it just looks cheap and sad. It looks like a 'set wedge' rather than a higher quality stand alone wedge.

[uglande]

If the SM8 has a foam-filled hollow head, I'm quitting this game.

[SnapHooker_307]

> @third-times-a-charm said:

> Sorry but the design of these is really unimaginative. I'm not saying that means its too basic or anything, because the vokey's of old are simple and fantastic looking. I mean that I believe theyre trying to play status quo with current golf iron designs and it just looks cheap and sad. It looks like a 'set wedge' rather than a higher quality stand alone wedge.

 

I might be slightly crazy, but I really dig that look to be honest.

[uglande]

OK, now I see the SM8 photo ... And all of a sudden a vision of my 2020 bag starts to appear.

 

[QuigleyDU]

> @uglande said:

> OK, now I see the SM8 photo ... And all of a sudden a vision of my 2020 bag starts to appear.

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I keep hearing these are not the real vokey SM8's. I dunno, I think the look fine.

[uglande]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @uglande said:

> > OK, now I see the SM8 photo ... And all of a sudden a vision of my 2020 bag starts to appear.

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> I keep hearing these are not the real vokey SM8's. I dunno, I think the look fine.

 

If they aren't then it's a very well-crafted hoax. But I wouldn't be sad keeping my SM7s in the bag.

[BCC1898]

I liked the weight distribution of the SM7, but these look like the old traditional Vokeys...nothing wrong with that!

[mrmikeac]

> @third-times-a-charm said:

> Sorry but the design of these is really unimaginative. I'm not saying that means its too basic or anything, because the vokey's of old are simple and fantastic looking. I mean that I believe theyre trying to play status quo with current golf iron designs and it just looks cheap and sad. It looks like a 'set wedge' rather than a higher quality stand alone wedge.

 

 

Unbelievable, people rip on OEM’s for bringing out the same stuff every year with no changes then go off and complain about having too many changes. Which one is it? How would you have designed it?

[luke1333]

> @mrmikeac said:

> > @third-times-a-charm said:

> > Sorry but the design of these is really unimaginative. I'm not saying that means its too basic or anything, because the vokey's of old are simple and fantastic looking. I mean that I believe theyre trying to play status quo with current golf iron designs and it just looks cheap and sad. It looks like a 'set wedge' rather than a higher quality stand alone wedge.

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> Unbelievable, people rip on OEM’s for bringing out the same stuff every year with no changes then go off and complain about having too many changes. Which one is it? How would you have designed it?

 

Personally like the 620MB or a Vokey WW just plain simple text and thats it. The bar running through it looks off to me but that isn't saying a lot of people won't like it. Will also have to see if there are any performance gains. I find it hard to believe that they will be much improved over the sm6/sm7/ww from the past couple years