Anthony Kim

[sportingpc]

I saw him at the Craps table at the Bellagio in February. Certainly doesn't look like a PGA Tour Player anymore but seemed to be enjoying himself

 

[bscinstnct]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @Bad9 said:

> > I really don't understand the fascination with AK.

>

> Same here. Total has been. Even bigger waste than John daly simply because JD still tries to play. AK moved on, so should we.

 

AK like a dude who walks in a bar already loaded, buys everyone shots, runs the pool table, passes out under the bar

 

Then wakes up, finds a lotto ticket on the floor and wins $20MM.

[Hawkeye77]

> @aliikane said:

> > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > Took 10 seconds to Google his name and there were 4 articles on the first page from 2019 talking about what he is up to.

> >

> >

>

> Only third party articles and accounts. AK hasn't talked publicly much about his life or the rumors.

 

Yes, or are you expecting him to post an answer?

[dlygrisse]

> @Hawkeye77 said:

> > @aliikane said:

> > > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > Took 10 seconds to Google his name and there were 4 articles on the first page from 2019 talking about what he is up to.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Only third party articles and accounts. AK hasn't talked publicly much about his life or the rumors.

>

> Yes, or are you expecting him to post an answer?

 

https://www.golf.com/news/2019/04/24/anthony-kim-golf-game-hollywood/

 

[bscinstnct]

> @dlygrisse said:

> > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > @aliikane said:

> > > > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > > Took 10 seconds to Google his name and there were 4 articles on the first page from 2019 talking about what he is up to.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Only third party articles and accounts. AK hasn't talked publicly much about his life or the rumors.

> >

> > Yes, or are you expecting him to post an answer?

>

> https://www.golf.com/news/2019/04/24/anthony-kim-golf-game-hollywood/

>

 

He could be playing stealth like in a disguise.

 

If this dude rolls up as a single and shoots a 61, you got AKd

 

 

[straightshot7]

Being a top pro golfer requires a ton of time, effort, discipline, etc. even if you have great talent.

 

Obviously AK wasn't interested in doing that anymore and has other "hobbies".

[cardoustie]

The golf tours are full of party guys at all levels .. mini tours right up to the Champions Tour

 

There is a boatload of articles on cream of the crop players with booze .... Tom Watson, Tom Weiskopf, John Daly, DJ, Woosnam, Jim Barnes, etc etc. Dana Quigley was #1 on the Senior Tour and per articles he was half in the bag every day

 

But, personally I think the partying part of the equation was secondary and became a lifestyle after his injuries and his confidence got battered.

 

I liked his action. I love how he stood up to Sergio at the RC (even though I like Sergio).

 

Golf is better with different characters in it

[bladehunter]

I didn’t see him play live. But from what I can see on YouTube he had both “its”. The swing and the mental it that most don’t have. Odd ending though.

[chigolfer1]

> @Bad9 said:

> > @bscinstnct said:

> > > @Bad9 said:

> > > I really don't understand the fascination with AK.

> >

> >

> >

>

> Lots of guys killed their careers with booze/drugs, why is he "special'.

 

I thought the injuries killed his career. It's an intriguing story - injury/supposed insurance payout but can't play golf again - combined with him basically "disappearing."

[aliikane]

> @Hawkeye77 said:

> > @aliikane said:

> > > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > Took 10 seconds to Google his name and there were 4 articles on the first page from 2019 talking about what he is up to.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Only third party articles and accounts. AK hasn't talked publicly much about his life or the rumors.

>

> Yes, or are you expecting him to post an answer?

 

> @dlygrisse said:

> > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > @aliikane said:

> > > > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > > Took 10 seconds to Google his name and there were 4 articles on the first page from 2019 talking about what he is up to.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Only third party articles and accounts. AK hasn't talked publicly much about his life or the rumors.

> >

> > Yes, or are you expecting him to post an answer?

>

> https://www.golf.com/news/2019/04/24/anthony-kim-golf-game-hollywood/

>

 

I figured he might to an interview or two just to set the public record straight of rumors, but he is asian (korean). Asians definitely tend to keep to themselves and not talk publicly about personal stuff much, so I get that. Disclaimer: I am asian. Lol.

 

That article just has one comment, "golf game is nonexistent" which doesn't really explain much.

[straightshot7]

> @cardoustie said:

> The golf tours are full of party guys at all levels .. mini tours right up to the Champions Tour

>

> There is a boatload of articles on cream of the crop players with booze .... Tom Watson, Tom Weiskopf, John Daly, DJ, Woosnam, Jim Barnes, etc etc. Dana Quigley was #1 on the Senior Tour and per articles he was half in the bag every day

>

> But, personally I think the partying part of the equation was secondary and became a lifestyle after his injuries and his confidence got battered.

>

> I liked his action. I love how he stood up to Sergio at the RC (even though I like Sergio).

>

> Golf is better with different characters in it

 

Yeah but most of those guys still also had the burning desire to be a great golfer and put in the work to do so (with maybe John Daly being the exception at times).

 

AK obviously decided he didn't care about being great at golf.

 

The desire to be great and put in the work is the key.

 

E.g. DJ? People talk about his off-course choices but he works his butt off in the gym and on the range. He is 95% pro golfer, 5% fun time.

 

AK wants to be 95% fun time.

[Golfjack]

Well he should have recovered and kept playing. The money got so much better. Anyway, his choice, and he doesn't even have a kid. Bro just wants a relaxing life, and if he invested it well, he should have a lot more than 10 mil by now.

[Ferguson]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @Bad9 said:

> > I really don't understand the fascination with AK.

>

> Same here. Total has been. Even bigger waste than John daly simply because JD still tries to play. AK moved on, so should we.

 

 

 

....................................parked outside John's "house' with a sign that reads, "FOR SALE $50 or Best Offer"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MK7Golf21]

There have been recent interviews, he took out a large insurance deal back when he was playing and paid good money for it. He got injured and tried to prepare to come back and got injured again. I guess the injuries kept piling up, he’s had a back fusion and other operations and getting paid good money from his insurance claim. If he does back to playing, he loses that money so he’s not coming back given his injuries. He plays poker and does investment/business deals now.

[dlygrisse]

> @Redjeep83 said:

> There have been recent interviews, he took out a large insurance deal back when he was playing and paid good money for it. He got injured and tried to prepare to come back and got injured again. I guess the injuries kept piling up, he’s had a back fusion and other operations and getting paid good money from his insurance claim. If he does back to playing, he loses that money so he’s not coming back given his injuries. He plays poker and does investment/business deals now.

 

"Plays Poker and has business investment deals". Hmmm....I give him 5 years and he is broke and owes the government 5 million in back taxes. Hope I'm wrong but this sounds like disaster waiting to happen.

[cardoustie]

so many pro athletes just burn thru their cash, amazing

[MidwestGolfBum]

> @dlygrisse said:

> > @Redjeep83 said:

> > There have been recent interviews, he took out a large insurance deal back when he was playing and paid good money for it. He got injured and tried to prepare to come back and got injured again. I guess the injuries kept piling up, he’s had a back fusion and other operations and getting paid good money from his insurance claim. If he does back to playing, he loses that money so he’s not coming back given his injuries. He plays poker and does investment/business deals now.

>

> "Plays Poker and has business investment deals". Hmmm....I give him 5 years and he is broke and owes the government 5 million in back taxes. Hope I'm wrong but this sounds like disaster waiting to happen.

 

He has been doing this since the insurance payout, from what I remember. Unless things go very, very wrong, I think he's doing things in the right way and doing the homework to be sure that he isn't making stupid investments in businesses. Poker, well... yeah, that's a different story, but if you enjoy it and are at least proficient, you can be okay.

[straightshot7]

> @Golfjack said:

> Well he should have recovered and kept playing. The money got so much better. Anyway, his choice, and he doesn't even have a kid. Bro just wants a relaxing life, and if he invested it well, he should have a lot more than 10 mil by now.

 

"The answer very well may lie in an insurance policy Kim has against a career-ending injury. An IMG source pegged its value at $10 million, **tax-free**. Kim’s friend, who has had financial discussions with him, says, **“It’s significantly north of that. Not quite 20, but close.** That is weighing on him, very much so. He’s trying to weigh the risk of coming back. The way he’s phrased it to me is, ‘If I take one swing on Tour, the policy is voided.'”

 

Assuming the friend’s figure is accurate, **Kim would have to earn some $35 million on and off the course to match the amount he would collect by never playing golf again. **(That’s factoring in taxes; agent’s commissions; private jets; diamond-encrusted belt buckles; salaries for a caddie, swing coach, short-game specialist, trainer, nutritionist and osteopath; and other expenses of the modern Tour pro.) For context, **his career Tour earnings are $12.2 million,** $9.2 million of which was accumulated between 2008 and ’10. **Kim signed a blockbuster deal with Nike following the ’08 season, and his annual endorsement income peaked the following year at $6 million**. If he can again be the player he was, he could make his $35 million nut with four or five good years. But that’s a very big if. “To say that he won’t come back because of money, that doesn’t ring true to me because he’s the most competitive kid I know,” says Knost. “I can’t imagine that’s what he’s thinking, unless something’s changed and he doesn’t want to play anymore.”

 

All to say that when he walked away from golf he probably had a lot more than $10 million. Probably closer to $30 million.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2014/09/18/is-pga-golfer-anthony-kim-avoiding-the-tour-to-collect-a-huge-insurance-payday/

[Bebsport678]

You’d have to think there’s some other factor at hand. Rory, Tiger, Bubba, Spieth and the list goes on...don’t need more money. They play to win and become legends.

 

Maybe he really doesn’t love golf and enjoys living life stress free. Just speculation though

[chigolfer1]

> @straightshot7 said:

> > @Golfjack said:

> > Well he should have recovered and kept playing. The money got so much better. Anyway, his choice, and he doesn't even have a kid. Bro just wants a relaxing life, and if he invested it well, he should have a lot more than 10 mil by now.

>

> "The answer very well may lie in an insurance policy Kim has against a career-ending injury. An IMG source pegged its value at $10 million, **tax-free**. Kim’s friend, who has had financial discussions with him, says, **“It’s significantly north of that. Not quite 20, but close.** That is weighing on him, very much so. He’s trying to weigh the risk of coming back. The way he’s phrased it to me is, ‘If I take one swing on Tour, the policy is voided.'”

>

> Assuming the friend’s figure is accurate, **Kim would have to earn some $35 million on and off the course to match the amount he would collect by never playing golf again. **(That’s factoring in taxes; agent’s commissions; private jets; diamond-encrusted belt buckles; salaries for a caddie, swing coach, short-game specialist, trainer, nutritionist and osteopath; and other expenses of the modern Tour pro.) For context, **his career Tour earnings are $12.2 million,** $9.2 million of which was accumulated between 2008 and ’10. **Kim signed a blockbuster deal with Nike following the ’08 season, and his annual endorsement income peaked the following year at $6 million**. If he can again be the player he was, he could make his $35 million nut with four or five good years. But that’s a very big if. “To say that he won’t come back because of money, that doesn’t ring true to me because he’s the most competitive kid I know,” says Knost. “I can’t imagine that’s what he’s thinking, unless something’s changed and he doesn’t want to play anymore.”

>

> All to say that when he walked away from golf he probably had a lot more than $10 million. Probably closer to $30 million.

>

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2014/09/18/is-pga-golfer-anthony-kim-avoiding-the-tour-to-collect-a-huge-insurance-payday/

 

This is really quite incredible when you think about it. I know this has been discussed before but, you walk up to your first PGA event after this knowing that you just threw away over $10 million dollars and, if you aren't that good at golf anymore, you are never getting close to recouping it? I guess if he could make some sort of endorsement deal, he could have offset it but that ship sailed liked 6 years ago obviously.

[MK7Golf21]

> @chigolfer1 said:

> > @straightshot7 said:

> > > @Golfjack said:

> > > Well he should have recovered and kept playing. The money got so much better. Anyway, his choice, and he doesn't even have a kid. Bro just wants a relaxing life, and if he invested it well, he should have a lot more than 10 mil by now.

> >

> > "The answer very well may lie in an insurance policy Kim has against a career-ending injury. An IMG source pegged its value at $10 million, **tax-free**. Kim’s friend, who has had financial discussions with him, says, **“It’s significantly north of that. Not quite 20, but close.** That is weighing on him, very much so. He’s trying to weigh the risk of coming back. The way he’s phrased it to me is, ‘If I take one swing on Tour, the policy is voided.'”

> >

> > Assuming the friend’s figure is accurate, **Kim would have to earn some $35 million on and off the course to match the amount he would collect by never playing golf again. **(That’s factoring in taxes; agent’s commissions; private jets; diamond-encrusted belt buckles; salaries for a caddie, swing coach, short-game specialist, trainer, nutritionist and osteopath; and other expenses of the modern Tour pro.) For context, **his career Tour earnings are $12.2 million,** $9.2 million of which was accumulated between 2008 and ’10. **Kim signed a blockbuster deal with Nike following the ’08 season, and his annual endorsement income peaked the following year at $6 million**. If he can again be the player he was, he could make his $35 million nut with four or five good years. But that’s a very big if. “To say that he won’t come back because of money, that doesn’t ring true to me because he’s the most competitive kid I know,” says Knost. “I can’t imagine that’s what he’s thinking, unless something’s changed and he doesn’t want to play anymore.”

> >

> > All to say that when he walked away from golf he probably had a lot more than $10 million. Probably closer to $30 million.

> >

> > https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2014/09/18/is-pga-golfer-anthony-kim-avoiding-the-tour-to-collect-a-huge-insurance-payday/

>

> This is really quite incredible when you think about it. I know this has been discussed before but, you walk up to your first PGA event after this knowing that you just threw away over $10 million dollars and, if you aren't that good at golf anymore, you are never getting close to recouping it? I guess if he could make some sort of endorsement deal, he could have offset it but that ship sailed liked 6 years ago obviously.

 

Yea and I mean it’s not like playing the tour isn’t stressful. I listened to his swing coach on a podcast talk about him awhile back and he mentioned that Kim didn’t really like the tour life. Said guys on tour (vets) were jealous of him and made it hard on him.

[GeorgeHWB]

I'm sure the insurance company regrets writing that policy.

 

$10+ million for a guy to never have to work again.

 

"Oh my arm -- it's broken!"

 

 

 

[aliikane]

> @dlygrisse said:

> > @Redjeep83 said:

> > There have been recent interviews, he took out a large insurance deal back when he was playing and paid good money for it. He got injured and tried to prepare to come back and got injured again. I guess the injuries kept piling up, he’s had a back fusion and other operations and getting paid good money from his insurance claim. If he does back to playing, he loses that money so he’s not coming back given his injuries. He plays poker and does investment/business deals now.

>

> "Plays Poker and has business investment deals". Hmmm....I give him 5 years and he is broke and owes the government 5 million in back taxes. Hope I'm wrong but this sounds like disaster waiting to happen.

 

If you are a really good poker player golf is definitely more expensive than poker. However, if you not a good poker player than golf can be more expensive than poker, unless you play low limit games

[bandrz]

> @Badds said:

> I'm sure the insurance company regrets writing that policy.

>

> $10+ million for a guy to never have to work again.

>

> "Oh my arm -- it's broken!"

>

>

>

>

 

LOL. Love the reference, but the insurance company isn't losing anything. how many of these policies do they write that never pay out? that's the name of the game. They're banks and they make billions, even after indemnity.

 

 

[bandrz]

> @dlygrisse said:

> > @Redjeep83 said:

> > There have been recent interviews, he took out a large insurance deal back when he was playing and paid good money for it. He got injured and tried to prepare to come back and got injured again. I guess the injuries kept piling up, he’s had a back fusion and other operations and getting paid good money from his insurance claim. If he does back to playing, he loses that money so he’s not coming back given his injuries. He plays poker and does investment/business deals now.

>

> "Plays Poker and has business investment deals". Hmmm....I give him 5 years and he is broke and owes the government 5 million in back taxes. Hope I'm wrong but this sounds like disaster waiting to happen.

 

Is this 5 years in addition to the 7 that it has already been?

 

 

[dlygrisse]

> @bandrz said:

> > @dlygrisse said:

> > > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > There have been recent interviews, he took out a large insurance deal back when he was playing and paid good money for it. He got injured and tried to prepare to come back and got injured again. I guess the injuries kept piling up, he’s had a back fusion and other operations and getting paid good money from his insurance claim. If he does back to playing, he loses that money so he’s not coming back given his injuries. He plays poker and does investment/business deals now.

> >

> > "Plays Poker and has business investment deals". Hmmm....I give him 5 years and he is broke and owes the government 5 million in back taxes. Hope I'm wrong but this sounds like disaster waiting to happen.

>

> Is this 5 years in addition to the 7 that it has already been?

>

>

 

> @bandrz said:

> > @dlygrisse said:

> > > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > There have been recent interviews, he took out a large insurance deal back when he was playing and paid good money for it. He got injured and tried to prepare to come back and got injured again. I guess the injuries kept piling up, he’s had a back fusion and other operations and getting paid good money from his insurance claim. If he does back to playing, he loses that money so he’s not coming back given his injuries. He plays poker and does investment/business deals now.

> >

> > "Plays Poker and has business investment deals". Hmmm....I give him 5 years and he is broke and owes the government 5 million in back taxes. Hope I'm wrong but this sounds like disaster waiting to happen.

>

> Is this 5 years in addition to the 7 that it has already been?

>

>

 

Sure. Whatever makes you happy.

[straightshot7]

> @bandrz said:

> > @Badds said:

> > I'm sure the insurance company regrets writing that policy.

> >

> > $10+ million for a guy to never have to work again.

> >

> > "Oh my arm -- it's broken!"

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> LOL. Love the reference, but the insurance company isn't losing anything. how many of these policies do they write that never pay out? that's the name of the game. They're banks and they make billions, even after indemnity.

>

>

 

Yeah but they still have to be right on their bets more than they are wrong. And I doubt they enjoy being wrong.

 

They probably thought:

 

1) This guy is a phenom, already sponsored by Nike, and likely to earn more than $100 million in his career (why would he ever want to walk away from that?)

 

2) Highly unlikely that he suffers a career ending injury as a golfer!

 

So it looked like a very safe bet. And Badds is right, of course they regretted it when they had to pay out. But of course it won't break the bank, that's neither here nor there.

 

 

[birdie30]

talented dude, but sometimes it just doesn't work out, much like my singing career

[Golfjack]

> @Redjeep83 said:

> > @chigolfer1 said:

> > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > @Golfjack said:

> > > > Well he should have recovered and kept playing. The money got so much better. Anyway, his choice, and he doesn't even have a kid. Bro just wants a relaxing life, and if he invested it well, he should have a lot more than 10 mil by now.

> > >

> > > "The answer very well may lie in an insurance policy Kim has against a career-ending injury. An IMG source pegged its value at $10 million, **tax-free**. Kim’s friend, who has had financial discussions with him, says, **“It’s significantly north of that. Not quite 20, but close.** That is weighing on him, very much so. He’s trying to weigh the risk of coming back. The way he’s phrased it to me is, ‘If I take one swing on Tour, the policy is voided.'”

> > >

> > > Assuming the friend’s figure is accurate, **Kim would have to earn some $35 million on and off the course to match the amount he would collect by never playing golf again. **(That’s factoring in taxes; agent’s commissions; private jets; diamond-encrusted belt buckles; salaries for a caddie, swing coach, short-game specialist, trainer, nutritionist and osteopath; and other expenses of the modern Tour pro.) For context, **his career Tour earnings are $12.2 million,** $9.2 million of which was accumulated between 2008 and ’10. **Kim signed a blockbuster deal with Nike following the ’08 season, and his annual endorsement income peaked the following year at $6 million**. If he can again be the player he was, he could make his $35 million nut with four or five good years. But that’s a very big if. “To say that he won’t come back because of money, that doesn’t ring true to me because he’s the most competitive kid I know,” says Knost. “I can’t imagine that’s what he’s thinking, unless something’s changed and he doesn’t want to play anymore.”

> > >

> > > All to say that when he walked away from golf he probably had a lot more than $10 million. Probably closer to $30 million.

> > >

> > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2014/09/18/is-pga-golfer-anthony-kim-avoiding-the-tour-to-collect-a-huge-insurance-payday/

> >

> > This is really quite incredible when you think about it. I know this has been discussed before but, you walk up to your first PGA event after this knowing that you just threw away over $10 million dollars and, if you aren't that good at golf anymore, you are never getting close to recouping it? I guess if he could make some sort of endorsement deal, he could have offset it but that ship sailed liked 6 years ago obviously.

>

> Yea and I mean it’s not like playing the tour isn’t stressful. I listened to his swing coach on a podcast talk about him awhile back and he mentioned that Kim didn’t really like the tour life. Said guys on tour (vets) were jealous of him and made it hard on him.

 

That's crazy. I guess he made the right choice, being already a 20-30 millionaire when he was pretty young. Should have more than a 100 mil when he's old easy. B)

[WillyL]

I didn't want to say anything......... But he is actually Club Pro Guy?