Titleist Pro V1 Left Dot Retail Release?

[nitram]

Ditto for me. Looking for more green side spin is what has me continuing to look for another ball. I was a TP5X player for years, but they messed it up with the current generation.

 

I don't think Titleist will ever produce enough Left Dot for it to be dependably resourced. I figure it's time to find something else I can depend on to be available when it's time to buy. Hope I'm wrong about that.

 

Current favorites are the '22 BX, BXS, and latest Pro V1.

[DerekPersson]

54 minutes ago, B.Easy said:

No probs!  Dash is lowest spin I've ever tested and gamed from a premium ball. Used them starting in late 2019 to the summer of 21 until getting the Dot.  Really like the ball, but would prefer more greenside spin.

I’ve also played the dash quite a bit and definitely liked it almost everywhere, like you mentioned though, greenside spin isn’t quite what I’d like.  Feel gets a little rough too once you get into cooler temps.

….and by cooler I mean sub-50

Edited March 16, 2022 by DerekPersson

[G-Bone]

30 minutes ago, nitram said:

Ditto for me. Looking for more green side spin is what has me continuing to look for another ball. I was a TP5X player for years, but they messed it up with the current generation.

 

I don't think Titleist will ever produce enough Left Dot for it to be dependably resourced. I figure it's time to find something else I can depend on to be available when it's time to buy. Hope I'm wrong about that.

 

Current favorites are the '22 BX, BXS, and latest Pro V1.

 

Coming from my connection inside - Titleist learned what they wanted to know from last year's Left Dot release. One was the demand was high, and two was the information they collected from the survey that came with the balls. In summary - the masses want a ball like the Left Dot.

 

Combine that with the Left Dot being Titleist's most played 'tour only' ball on tour and the Pro V1 being Titleist's most popular 'retail' ball on tour brings them to one conclusion for the 2023 Pro V1... it will be a solid kin to the current Left Dot - with updated materials and dimple pattern.

 

Fingers crossed for all those that love Left Dot that all that is true!

Edited March 16, 2022 by G-Bone

[DerekPersson]

1 minute ago, G-Bone said:

 

Coming from my connection inside - Titleist learned what they wanted to know from last year's Left Dot release. One was the demand was high, and two was the information they collected from the survey that came with the balls. In summary - the masses want a ball like the Left Dot. Combine that with the Left Dot being Titleist's most played 'tour only' ball on tour and the Pro V1 being Titleist's most popular 'retail' ball on tour brings them to one conclusion for the 2023 Pro V1... it will be a solid kin to the current Left Dot - with updated materials and dimple pattern.

 

Fingers crossed for all those that love Left Dot that all that is true!

Oooohhh mama!

[nitram]

2 minutes ago, G-Bone said:

 

Coming from my connection inside - Titleist learned what they wanted to know from last year's Left Dot release. One was the demand was high, and two was the information they collected from the survey that came with the balls. In summary - the masses want a ball like the Left Dot. Combine that with the Left Dot being Titleist's most played 'tour only' ball on tour and the Pro V1 being Titleist's most popular 'retail' ball on tour brings them to one conclusion for the 2023 Pro V1... it will be a solid kin to the current Left Dot - with updated materials and dimple pattern.

 

Fingers crossed for all those that love Left Dot that all that is true!

Hope your source is correct 🤞

[jak77]

20 hours ago, G-Bone said:

 

Coming from my connection inside - Titleist learned what they wanted to know from last year's Left Dot release. One was the demand was high, and two was the information they collected from the survey that came with the balls. In summary - the masses want a ball like the Left Dot.

 

Combine that with the Left Dot being Titleist's most played 'tour only' ball on tour and the Pro V1 being Titleist's most popular 'retail' ball on tour brings them to one conclusion for the 2023 Pro V1... it will be a solid kin to the current Left Dot - with updated materials and dimple pattern.

 

Fingers crossed for all those that love Left Dot that all that is true!

 

If I'm reading this part correctly; next year's ProV1 becomes what the LD was (all or in part), and there's no separate LD release.

 

[G-Bone]

24 minutes ago, jak77 said:

 

If I'm reading this part correctly; next year's ProV1 becomes what the LD was (all or in part), and there's no separate LD release.

 

It's hard to say and most likely not that cut and dry.

 

There may be a minor LD release this summer but likely even smaller than last year.

 

In addition, there is no telling if Titleist may refresh the LD from its current state and still have an LD tour only ball that is a tweaked 2023 retail Pro V1.  After all, that is how the LD originally came to life. 

[DerekPersson]

On 3/16/2022 at 10:22 AM, B.Easy said:

No probs!  Dash is lowest spin I've ever tested and gamed from a premium ball. Used them starting in late 2019 to the summer of 21 until getting the Dot.  Really like the ball, but would prefer more greenside spin.

I know this is a Left dot thread, but since we discussed this earlier…

 

Got the Z-Star Diamonds out today and it was WINDY….like 30 mph sustained with gusts to 40+.  I was very impressed.  Left Dash-like performance off the Driver, but with softer feel with better spin numbers off all irons and wedges. Definitely better from 100 yds and in with respect to spin and control. (better than the Z-Star XV as well)

 Didn’t find any bunkers today but I assume they’d be nice out of there as well.  Feel on the putter was very nice too…not too marshmallowy like a Bridgestone Tour BXS and not too clicky like the Dash and XV.  Just a nice in between “thud” feel.

 

Great ball for sure.  It’ll be between these and the Bridgestone Tour B X for me this season assuming no more dots.

[B.Easy]

17 minutes ago, DerekPersson said:

I know this is a Left dot thread, but since we discussed this earlier…

 

Got the Z-Star Diamonds out today and it was WINDY….like 30 mph sustained with gusts to 40+.  I was very impressed.  Left Dash-like performance off the Driver, but with softer feel with better spin numbers off all irons and wedges. Definitely better from 100 yds and in with respect to spin and control. (better than the Z-Star XV as well)

 Didn’t find any bunkers today but I assume they’d be nice out of there as well.  Feel on the putter was very nice too…not too marshmallowy like a Bridgestone Tour BXS and not too clicky like the Dash and XV.  Just a nice in between “thud” feel.

 

Great ball for sure.  It’ll be between these and the Bridgestone Tour B X for me this season assuming no more dots.

That's awesome!  Thanks for sharing the feedback!  I agree completely.     

[Mob]

On 3/10/2022 at 12:25 AM, QuigleyDU said:

The dot was my fav ball last year. It was near perfect. The new Srixon diamond has become my replacement. It is as close to the dot as anything I have found. 

I tend to agree with this. I played 18 today, the front nine with the Srixon Diamond, and the back 9 with the Left dot.  They play and feel similar.  If I had to try and distinguish the 2, I thought the Diamond had a touch more spin and felt a touch softer.  Minor differences, not major.  The Diamond is a really good substitute for the Left dot, since the left dot isn't commercially available.

[nitram]

16 hours ago, Mob said:

I tend to agree with this. I played 18 today, the front nine with the Srixon Diamond, and the back 9 with the Left dot.  They play and feel similar.  If I had to try and distinguish the 2, I thought the Diamond had a touch more spin and felt a touch softer.  Minor differences, not major.  The Diamond is a really good substitute for the Left dot, since the left dot isn't commercially available.

What about durability on the Diamond? This has been my only issue with previous Srixon premium balls.

[Mob]

3 hours ago, nitram said:

What about durability on the Diamond? This has been my only issue with previous Srixon premium balls.

I think the Srixon Diamond cover is alittle less durable than the Titleist.  Not a game changer for me, as I typically play 1 or 2 balls per round at my home course, and it is fine for that amount of play.  I probably need a little more time playing with it, to be sure of this, but this is my initial impression after playing a couple of rounds with it.

[DerekPersson]

On 4/4/2022 at 8:44 AM, nitram said:

What about durability on the Diamond? This has been my only issue with previous Srixon premium balls.

I had the outer cover literally rip on me with 2 of the 6 balls I’ve played with.  Performance otherwise was great.  Tour BX and Diamond are closest to the Dot in my experience.

 

[nitram]

That's the same thing I've encountered with Srixon, in the past.

[Mob]

On 4/3/2022 at 6:03 PM, Mob said:

I tend to agree with this. I played 18 today, the front nine with the Srixon Diamond, and the back 9 with the Left dot.  They play and feel similar.  If I had to try and distinguish the 2, I thought the Diamond had a touch more spin and felt a touch softer.  Minor differences, not major.  The Diamond is a really good substitute for the Left dot, since the left dot isn't commercially available.

One update I would give on the Diamond.  The Srixon Diamond cover is alittle less durable than ProV1 urethane cover.  It seems to stain easily, and scuff alittle easier.  I have not had any seam issues or cover splitting, like some have noted above. Not a deal breaker for me, as I rarely go more than one round with a ball, but just an fyi.

Edited May 17, 2022 by Mob

[DerekPersson]

Just bumping the post to see if anyone had any intel regarding our precious Dots!  

[nitram]

C . . . R . . . I . . . C . . . K . . .E . . .T . . .S

[DerekPersson]

1 hour ago, nitram said:

C . . . R . . . I . . . C . . . K . . .E . . .T . . .S

 Well damn!

[GSS ONLY]

Emailed Titleist,

Unfortunately the Left Dot is not something that we will be producing more of right now.

[tsecor]

On 3/16/2022 at 1:20 PM, nitram said:

Hope your source is correct 🤞

If you look back through this thread, i mentioned I have a "source" inside Titleist that has direct knowledge of the ball program. 

 

The Left Dot will see retail, its the timing that is in question.  Fall of 2022 was the original timeline but that is in question right now. In short, Titleist is trying to "wedge" in the left dot in the lineup and MAY...i stress MAY end up knocking AVX out of the lineup at some point.  Bottom line is, Titleist is set to release left dot at the retail level, the question is when. The last I heard, fall of 2022 may be pushed out to summer of 2023.....we'll see. This ball has been around for years on the tour, so IMO (not sourced info), left DOT may see an improvement before retail launch with core and dimple pattern "improvements. All that being said, production is not happening right now so who truly knows.....but thats all the info i have.

 

 

[gioreeko]

15 hours ago, tsecor said:

If you look back through this thread, i mentioned I have a "source" inside Titleist that has direct knowledge of the ball program. 

 

The Left Dot will see retail, its the timing that is in question.  Fall of 2022 was the original timeline but that is in question right now. In short, Titleist is trying to "wedge" in the left dot in the lineup and MAY...i stress MAY end up knocking AVX out of the lineup at some point.  Bottom line is, Titleist is set to release left dot at the retail level, the question is when. The last I heard, fall of 2022 may be pushed out to summer of 2023.....we'll see. This ball has been around for years on the tour, so IMO (not sourced info), left DOT may see an improvement before retail launch with core and dimple pattern "improvements. All that being said, production is not happening right now so who truly knows.....but thats all the info i have.

 

 

Appreciate the update!, thanks!

[elwhippy]

Good things come to those who wait. 

[My2Dogs]

On 6/9/2022 at 12:44 AM, elwhippy said:

Good things come to those who wait. 

Not that long.  We are right in the middle of prime golf season.  Was hoping they would come out this year (early fall).  😭

Edited June 15, 2022 by My2Dogs

[tsecor]

On 4/3/2022 at 6:03 PM, Mob said:

I tend to agree with this. I played 18 today, the front nine with the Srixon Diamond, and the back 9 with the Left dot.  They play and feel similar.  If I had to try and distinguish the 2, I thought the Diamond had a touch more spin and felt a touch softer.  Minor differences, not major.  The Diamond is a really good substitute for the Left dot, since the left dot isn't commercially available.

I played both balls and I disagree. As we know feel is very subjective but for me, the left dot was longer and felt better (a little softer). With the left dot, it feels explosive off the driver face as oppsed to a new TP5X which feels "heavy" to me off the driver face.  The diamond felt fine, but to me, definitely not as "lively" or 'explosive"

 

50 yards and in, the diamond felt too harsh for me.....performance was fine and held the green pretty good. = to the LD.

 

But as we know, feel is so personal

[Neo1]

2 hours ago, tsecor said:

I played both balls and I disagree. As we know feel is very subjective but for me, the left dot was longer and felt better (a little softer). With the left dot, it feels explosive off the driver face as oppsed to a new TP5X which feels "heavy" to me off the driver face.  The diamond felt fine, but to me, definitely not as "lively" or 'explosive"

 

50 yards and in, the diamond felt too harsh for me.....performance was fine and held the green pretty good. = to the LD.

 

But as we know, feel is so personal

 

so you're saying the Left Dot felt softer 50 yards and in but more "explosive"(firmer) off the driver compared to the diamond? dang might be worth that $200 price tag on the bst haha

[tsecor]

On 6/14/2022 at 1:25 PM, golf_junkie_85 said:

 

so you're saying the Left Dot felt softer 50 yards and in but more "explosive"(firmer) off the driver compared to the diamond? dang might be worth that $200 price tag on the bst haha

100%.....left dot is the best ball ive ever hit. Period.....

[doc52]

29 minutes ago, tsecor said:

100%.....left dot is the best ball ive ever hit. Period.....

I agree, I need a restock. Hopefully they come to market here soon...

[OhItsStu]

On 3/17/2022 at 4:17 AM, G-Bone said:

 

Coming from my connection inside - Titleist learned what they wanted to know from last year's Left Dot release. One was the demand was high, and two was the information they collected from the survey that came with the balls. In summary - the masses want a ball like the Left Dot.

 

Combine that with the Left Dot being Titleist's most played 'tour only' ball on tour and the Pro V1 being Titleist's most popular 'retail' ball on tour brings them to one conclusion for the 2023 Pro V1... it will be a solid kin to the current Left Dot - with updated materials and dimple pattern.

 

Fingers crossed for all those that love Left Dot that all that is true!

I really hope this update is on the money, if the 2023 ProV1 is close to the left dot, I'll be investing in many many dozen!!

[Mike_Honcho]

i am holding on to my last dozen and a half till we see what titleist does with the next generation.  the zstar diamond is a great ball for me but i recently discovered the wilson triad and like it enough to play it more often.

[tsecor]

On 10/2/2021 at 8:05 PM, QuigleyDU said:

I like this ball.. a lot.. I need to get my driver launch up to 12 degrees and it episode be bombs away..

 

 

amazing #'s...shocked at the backspin though