LIV Tour Discussion Thread (*** NO POLITICS ***)

[ThinkingPlus]

4 hours ago, ahenderX said:

FedEx Cup started in 2007. Race to Dubai started in 2009. Source: Internet.

Good catch. My memory isn't what it used to be and I didn't exercise due diligence and check. Thanks for the correction.

[Hawkeye77]

12 hours ago, Shilgy said:

I asked him the same thing Wednesday….he must be related to Greg….just spews whatever sounds good for their exhibition “tour”.

Yep, every time facts are requested, none are supplied. That is a fact, lol. 

[Golferpaul]

Spieth is quite positive about the future:

 

[tomjas]

6 hours ago, Hawkeye77 said:

Yep, every time facts are requested, none are supplied. That is a fact, lol. 

Fact

 

I own a golf course and was approached 

 

 

[tomjas]

19 hours ago, Shilgy said:

I asked him the same thing Wednesday….he must be related to Greg….just spews whatever sounds good for their exhibition “tour”.

LIV Adelaide is their most successful event 

 

Norman is Australian and a highly successful developer of golf course estates 

 

Australia has a massive shortage of housing and golf courses 

 

Not rocket science

 

Btw, potential buyers don’t take out ads 🤣

Edited May 25 by tomjas

[Shilgy]

1 hour ago, tomjas said:

LIV Adelaide is their most successful event 

 

Norman is Australian and a highly successful developer of golf course estates 

 

Australia has a massive shortage of housing and golf courses 

 

Not rocket science

 

Btw, potential buyers don’t take out ads 🤣

So still nothing to show us?  Fair enough.

 

Greg may be “highly successful” in Australia but not here in Phoenix.  He designed the high end club Mirabel originally as a daily fee course with, cough cough, 45 acres of grass. Entire course was redone and is now the private club …and playable.

https://archive.lib.msu.edu/tic/gcnew/article/2001sep11b.pdf
 

Also,  it was intended for Norman to design a second course at Quintero…that it never happened is not entirely his fault but the “name” did nothing to attract more members.

 

Point being a “massive shortage of housing and golf courses” does not necessarily mean Norman is the savior.

[tomjas]

1 hour ago, Shilgy said:

So still nothing to show us?  Fair enough.

 

Greg may be “highly successful” in Australia but not here in Phoenix.  He designed the high end club Mirabel originally as a daily fee course with, cough cough, 45 acres of grass. Entire course was redone and is now the private club …and playable.

https://archive.lib.msu.edu/tic/gcnew/article/2001sep11b.pdf
 

Also,  it was intended for Norman to design a second course at Quintero…that it never happened is not entirely his fault but the “name” did nothing to attract more members.

 

Point being a “massive shortage of housing and golf courses” does not necessarily mean Norman is the savior.

Who said anything about him being a saviour?

 

Australia needs millions of new houses immediately and many new courses so anything LIV does will be a drop in the ocean 

 

It’s a business opportunity & he’s a golf course developer 

 

 

Edited May 26 by tomjas

[Archimedes65]

3 hours ago, tomjas said:

LIV Adelaide is their most successful event 

 

 

It’s their only ‘successful’ event, and only in terms of getting some fans to the course.  And LIV still loses money on that event, just like they do on every other event they put on.

[idrive]

5 hours ago, tomjas said:

Fact

 

I own a golf course and was approached 

 

 

 

Miniature Golf Course doesn't count.

 

1 hour ago, Archimedes65 said:

 

It’s their only ‘successful’ event, and only in terms of getting some fans to the course.  And LIV still loses money on that event, just like they do on every other event they put on.

 

beat me to it... 🤣

[Shilgy]

2 hours ago, tomjas said:

Who said anything about him being a saviour?

 

Australia needs millions of new houses immediately and many new courses so anything LIV does will be a drop in the ocean 

 

It’s a business opportunity & he’s a golf course developer 

 

 

Not sure what a few golf courses does to create millions of houses but I’d still like to see some links to these homes and courses Greg is building.

[iBanesto]

Richard Bland was leading the Senior PGA Championship after 2 rounds.

 

Dropped back to T3 and only 1 back going into the final round.

 

[tomjas]

6 hours ago, Shilgy said:

Not sure what a few golf courses does to create millions of houses but I’d still like to see some links to these homes and courses Greg is building.

Golf courses are generally the centrepiece of large scale developments

 

Very few courses are built as stand alone projects because virtually all lose money 

 

This is an Australian development with a Norman course 

 

https://www.pelicanwaters.com/

Edited May 26 by tomjas

[idrive]

11 hours ago, tomjas said:

 

Australia needs millions of new houses immediately and many new courses so anything LIV does will be a drop in the ocean 

 

It’s a business opportunity & he’s a golf course developer 

 

1 hour ago, tomjas said:

Golf courses are generally the centrepiece of large scale developments

 

Very few courses are built as stand alone projects because virtually all lose money 

 

This is an Australian development with a Norman course 

 

https://www.pelicanwaters.com/

 

Not sure how a development that's 35 years in the making is helping Oz build "millions of new houses immediately".

 

Greg designed the golf course. Has nothing to do with the development of the project. I'd venture a guess it wouldn't have mattered who designed the golf course.

[tomjas]

8 hours ago, idrive said:

 

 

Not sure how a development that's 35 years in the making is helping Oz build "millions of new houses immediately".

 

Greg designed the golf course. Has nothing to do with the development of the project. I'd venture a guess it wouldn't have mattered who designed the golf course.

Norman has designed 100+ courses and that’s 1 example I randomly picked 

 

Feel free to pick another 

 

http://www.gngcd.com/courses/

 

If it didn’t matter who designed the course then why do Norman, Nicklaus, etc  get paid to do it?

 

 

Edited May 26 by tomjas

[bcjim]

Uh-oh

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/saudi-sovereign-wealth-fund-reorganize-management-amid-budget-crunch-sources-say-2024-05-24/

[Shilgy]

3 hours ago, tomjas said:

Golf courses are generally the centrepiece of large scale developments

 

Very few courses are built as stand alone projects because virtually all lose money 

 

This is an Australian development with a Norman course 

 

https://www.pelicanwaters.com/

Cool…the best example is a 35 year old development?  That’s 7years before the Masters flop.  

[Hawkeye77]

18 hours ago, tomjas said:

Fact

 

I own a golf course and was approached 

 

 

The suggestion was they were actively building courses other than just Australia - where?

[Cactus Jack]

Bland wins the Senior PGA!

 

 

[jimecherry]

Score another one for the badguys of golf

Richard Bland wins KitchenAid Senior PGA Championship

 

 

 

[NetBogey]

Sorry if this has been discussed and am missing it. But how did Rich Bland get into the Senior PGA? Did he qualify, invite or some other way? TIA

 

edit. Found my answer in this article https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-member-richard-bland-uses-an-off-week-in-the-schedule-t?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=golfdigest&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHdYs-wWS5gzuujEcBQpYSAXtQgrzbhQ0zsANUZy0vQ_U1XIrUGkBNMx_-A_aem_Aaec_pRXWrPcj_uiDzEMKa7KQKRdqJWCN_m-7nJrnTO0Z1ReUO4jxuwlHSbt_AN3i6eg31TyBw_VPxvxdOrVQjg_

Edited May 26 by NetBogey

[NoTalentLefty]

Is our perception of LIV being molded by The Golf Channel? My thoughts are starting to turn that way. Never really gave LIV the chance because I was getting my golf news from a corporate entity that whole existence is based on a strong PGA Tour. Besides now BC is speaking like the money from the Saudis to the Tour is now okay. Think I’ll start watching LIV to give it a chance. 

[tomjas]

6 hours ago, Hawkeye77 said:

The suggestion was they were actively building courses other than just Australia - where?

Never said or even implied such a thing 

[tomjas]

9 hours ago, Shilgy said:

Cool…the best example is a 35 year old development?  That’s 7years before the Masters flop.  

Hardly the only example 

 

Pick one you like 

 

There’s over 100 to choose from 😆

 

http://www.gngcd.com/courses/

[grm24]

47 minutes ago, NetBogey said:

Sorry if this has been discussed and am missing it. But how did Rich Bland get into the Senior PGA? Did he qualify, invite or some other way? TIA

 

edit. Found my answer in this article https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-member-richard-bland-uses-an-off-week-in-the-schedule-t?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=golfdigest&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHdYs-wWS5gzuujEcBQpYSAXtQgrzbhQ0zsANUZy0vQ_U1XIrUGkBNMx_-A_aem_Aaec_pRXWrPcj_uiDzEMKa7KQKRdqJWCN_m-7nJrnTO0Z1ReUO4jxuwlHSbt_AN3i6eg31TyBw_VPxvxdOrVQjg_

The explanation on how he was in the field is explained in the article you linked. 

[NetBogey]

17 minutes ago, grm24 said:

The explanation on how he was in the field is explained in the article you linked. 

That’s why I put edit - found my answer in this article 

Edited May 27 by NetBogey

[tomjas]

10 hours ago, bcjim said:

Uh-oh

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/saudi-sovereign-wealth-fund-reorganize-management-amid-budget-crunch-sources-say-2024-05-24/

It’s common knowledge that the Saudi economy isn’t in great shape and hasn’t been for years plus those giga projects have always been massive black holes 

 

Abu Dhabi could afford to build a giga project on Yas Island because they’re just as rich but only need to support 550k citizens while there’s 37 million Saudis looking for a better lifestyle 

 

And that’s without considering the respective attractiveness of the 2 as destinations

Edited May 27 by tomjas

[tomjas]

Congratulations to Richard Bland but he was a strong favourite as he’s relatively young and has been playing well against much stronger competition than the majority of the field 

[jimecherry]

21 minutes ago, tomjas said:

It’s common knowledge that the Saudi economy isn’t in great shape and hasn’t been for years plus those giga projects have always been massive black holes 

 

Abu Dhabi could afford to build a giga project on Yas Island because they’re just as rich but only need to support 550k citizens while there’s 37 million Saudis looking for a better lifestyle 

 

And that’s without considering the respective attractiveness of the 2 as destinations

imagine they rain in spending but continue to be a ultra conservative pr nightmare ;}

[doubleeagle]

For those who care about the golf, here is what I could find for Richard Bland's 2024 witb.

 

Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond, Mitsubishi Rayon S+ Diamana Graphite Shaft

 

Fairway Wood: TaylorMade Stealth Plus (15 degrees) & TaylorMade Stealth (21 degrees) with Fujikura Ventus Red 8 X

 

Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 21′ (5-P)

 

Wedges: TaylorMade Hi-Toe RAW (50-09°, 54-10°, 58-10°)

 

Putter(s): L.A.B. DF 2.1 Custom, L.A.B. MEZZ. 1 (most recent)

 

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

 

 

 

[bcjim]

31 minutes ago, tomjas said:

It’s common knowledge that the Saudi economy isn’t in great shape and hasn’t been for years plus those giga projects have always been massive black holes 

 

Abu Dhabi could afford to build a giga project on Yas Island because they’re just as rich but only need to support 550k citizens while there’s 37 million Saudis looking for a better lifestyle 

 

And that’s without considering the respective attractiveness of the 2 as destinations

If it's common knowledge that the economy isn't great, is giving Jon Rahm 500 million a good idea?

 

Abu Dhabi is as irrelevant as Monaco.