Tour Callaway Paradym driver - 2022 QBE Shootout

[bcflyguy1]

9 hours ago, tigercolt77 said:

Any idea if Callaway would put a heavier weight on the standard head if I order the club 1 inch short?  I would want the swing weight to remain standard but play my driver a bit shorter than the 45.75 inches listed.

Can confirm. The standard weight is 15g, but my fitting kit included both a 21g and 9g sliding weight. The sliders say how heavy they are on them, so it can be visually verified.

When ordering something that specific, recommend the technique of calling the order in. People are human and sometimes minute details like that can still get overlooked, but calling the order in may help prevent that. 

[HarborMike]

1 hour ago, Albatross Dreamer said:

Most professional long drive guys do

Yep. Crazy to see they’re not enough close enough to play on tour. Forgot what video I was watching, but they had someone from the Champions tour (mid to late 50s) play a 9 holes or a round against two long drivers (20s-early 30s) for 9 holes. Long drivers killed the Champions player off the tee as expected, but in the end Champions player dusted both of them on the scorecard and wasn’t even close.

[dodgyman]

Indoor fitting facility where I practice had the new heads in. Had to try them. 

 

So, I am a wrx'er at heart, so I don't need an excuse to look at a new driver, but legitimately, I put in the auto-flex on my epic speed after I had bought that head and while I love it and gained distance with AF, the shaft did add to my launch/spin and I'm hoping the new line would help.

 

Performance did not blow me away, but it was better, specifically TD weight in the front. There were definitely performance gains, by the time I had dialed it in my SS was down 2mph just being tired but i was still peaking in carry. While better, I doubt I'm going to see much more than 3-5 yards, everything is better (launch/spin) but nothing mind-blowing.

 

What I loved was the feel/stability. I was not expecting the TD to be forgiving but I had no problems with it. The added launch and spin of my AF probably helps here, but I was hitting my straightest shots.

 

Looks wise, I liked the pictures, I love it in person. It's the first Callway driver that I love the looks of in a long time.

 

Honestly, it's a luxury upgrade, I don't expect any big changes, but very likely I'll pull the trigger and upgrade.

[Jillas]

Maybe a stupid question. I just got fitted at club champion on Tuesday and they put me into a Callaway ST Max LS driver with a Raijin 2.0 65 X shaft.I had no idea the Paradym was coming out so soon. Would my numbers translate if I kept the shaft and switched the heads or would I need to be fitted again for that head. 

[Tree Levino]

9 minutes ago, Jillas said:

Maybe a stupid question. I just got fitted at club champion on Tuesday and they put me into a Callaway ST Max LS driver with a Raijin 2.0 65 X shaft.I had no idea the Paradym was coming out so soon. Would my numbers translate if I kept the shaft and switched the heads or would I need to be fitted again for that head. 

 

Spending that kind of money 100% refit

[iNeedMoreGolf]

5 hours ago, Albatross Dreamer said:

Most professional long drive guys do

O didnt know he was. Makes more sense now.

[SaVo_]

johnny wunder is on instagram live at the moment and I asked him about the bigger weight being moved to the back in the Diamond. He said a lot of tour guys are doing that as well.

[bcflyguy1]

21 minutes ago, SaVo_ said:

johnny wunder is on instagram live at the moment and I asked him about the bigger weight being moved to the back in the Diamond. He said a lot of tour guys are doing that as well.

FWIW, I have yet to see a professional player using a Callaway driver with a heavy weight forward and a light weight in back. Closest to that I’ve seen is very similar weights in both ports.

[getitdaily]

30 minutes ago, SaVo_ said:

johnny wunder is on instagram live at the moment and I asked him about the bigger weight being moved to the back in the Diamond. He said a lot of tour guys are doing that as well.

Callaway's advice to retail shops is to fit with the heavy weight back.

[wilymo]

Are the "flat" and "strong" adapters that Callaway is offering the green and red dot adapters? Or is there a new adapter?

[Strategery]

1 hour ago, SaVo_ said:

johnny wunder is on instagram live at the moment and I asked him about the bigger weight being moved to the back in the Diamond. He said a lot of tour guys are doing that as well.

[trentyoung33]

I hit the Paradym TD against the TSR3 yesterday and as much as I wanted the Paradym to win, TSR3 was 3-4 mph faster.

 

Paradym TD is extremely consistent with spin and carry, but ball speed didn’t once get to what I was averaging with the TSR3.

[Pens #1 fan]

7 hours ago, Jillas said:

Maybe a stupid question. I just got fitted at club champion on Tuesday and they put me into a Callaway ST Max LS driver with a Raijin 2.0 65 X shaft.I had no idea the Paradym was coming out so soon. Would my numbers translate if I kept the shaft and switched the heads or would I need to be fitted again for that head. 

My question what didn’t have you hit the Paradym? It was available to demo

[bcflyguy1]

4 minutes ago, Pens #1 fan said:

My question what didn’t have you hit the Paradym? It was available to demo

Pre-sale and fitting didn’t open until today.

[Pens #1 fan]

6 minutes ago, bcflyguy1 said:

Pre-sale and fitting didn’t open until today.

I guess not everyone follows, my GG and CC has had them out for a week. Since they received them at store 

[bcflyguy1]

Just now, Pens #1 fan said:

I guess not everyone follows, my GG and CC has had them out for a week. Since they received them at store 

Quite common. Not like orders for fits done prior are going to be turned down.

[Cactus Jack]

Demoed the Triple Diamond today. The head shape is fantastic and the color looked much better in person. In my opinion this is a slightly less forgiving and but much better feeling TSR4. However, in my hands the Cally is the lowest spinning driver I have ever tested. Knuckle bombs were fun to hit, but I haven't seen this many no spin balls dive bombs since the SLDR days. If you button your driver or are a high spin player the TD could be perfect. Regarding performance, I saw zero ball speed increase over my Rogue Max LS. 

[UnderPar18]

1 hour ago, trentyoung33 said:

I hit the Paradym TD against the TSR3 yesterday and as much as I wanted the Paradym to win, TSR3 was 3-4 mph faster.

 

Paradym TD is extremely consistent with spin and carry, but ball speed didn’t once get to what I was averaging with the TSR3.

How was the spin compared to TSR3?

[endy]

1 hour ago, trentyoung33 said:

I hit the Paradym TD against the TSR3 yesterday and as much as I wanted the Paradym to win, TSR3 was 3-4 mph faster.

 

Paradym TD is extremely consistent with spin and carry, but ball speed didn’t once get to what I was averaging with the TSR3.

Same lofts and shafts? 

[Avidswampthing66]

8 hours ago, Jillas said:

Maybe a stupid question. I just got fitted at club champion on Tuesday and they put me into a Callaway ST Max LS driver with a Raijin 2.0 65 X shaft.I had no idea the Paradym was coming out so soon. Would my numbers translate if I kept the shaft and switched the heads or would I need to be fitted again for that head. 

Im thinking they will give you a refit to try the new head at no cost.  

[trentyoung33]

50 minutes ago, UnderPar18 said:

How was the spin compared to TSR3?

Spin was about the same. 2200ish. Just couldn’t get the Paradym over 171 ball speed.

[trentyoung33]

44 minutes ago, endy said:

Same lofts and shafts? 

Same lofts. Different shafts. Club head speed was the same, just less ball speed from the Paradym.

[UnderPar18]

7 minutes ago, trentyoung33 said:

Spin was about the same. 2200ish. Just couldn’t get the Paradym over 171 ball speed.

My concern with PTD is the spin. In the reviews I’ve seen it seems like guys are lifting up and just barely getting enough spin. 
 

I was going to possibly get a PTD in 10.5 but feel like I would need a Ventus TR Red 6x instead of the blue to aid with launch and spin. 

[Strategery]

Saw it today in Canada. Strange looking, plastic rear top detail, sole essentially has a keel, Walmart-esque navy gloss/matte combo. I would be surprised if it sells based on looks and price, but perhaps some folks will test ok.

[Cactus Jack]

1 hour ago, UnderPar18 said:

My concern with PTD is the spin. In the reviews I’ve seen it seems like guys are lifting up and just barely getting enough spin. 
 

I was going to possibly get a PTD in 10.5 but feel like I would need a Ventus TR Red 6x instead of the blue to aid with launch and spin. 

I typically play 7.5-8* drivers. I could not spin the 9* head. I didn’t try the 10.5, but even lifting up ~3* from my gamers I’m not confident I could get spin high enough to be playable for my game. 

[iNeedMoreGolf]

So wierd how clubs fit one person to the next different. I had Trip d rogue st. Spring time i was smashing it 240 on average probably. Seeing 250 260 270 280 even on perfect shots. Come summer... my numbers started to dip way down it was wierd. I also thought it sat very closed for a supposedly neutral sitting driver. The feeling and sound tho was A+. Got rid of it. I know my version of smashing drives is not so much smashing to others but for me it is. Lol

[Morry]

13 hours ago, wilymo said:

Are the "flat" and "strong" adapters that Callaway is offering the green and red dot adapters? Or is there a new adapter?

Interested to know this as well

 

[Kuk]

How is the paradym comparing to the rogue max LS model? Surprise to see no LS model this year.

[belh22]

Yea would love to hear more about the regular Paradym model too 

[Avidswampthing66]

2 minutes ago, Kuk said:

How is the paradym comparing to the rogue max LS model? Surprise to see no LS model this year.

Still in testing phase, but i should have more info soon.  With the weight in the front PTD is a beast, but a little hard to control (for me) comparted to Max LS, which was a point and shoot driver.  Working with the weights right now to see if I can find the happy place.   If not, I may find a reg Paradym to test.  After seeing some reviews, it seems like the Paradym is very comparable to Max LS in that its low spin and high moi