2023 Maxfli Tour, Tour X and Tour S

[Morry]

Tour knocked z-star and pro-v out of the bag 

 

every aspect it is the same or better for each

the package is optimal 

 

 

[wantacigar]

11 hours ago, EmptyWallet said:

Gotcha - anything wrong with that?

Matte balls in general get dirty and dingy faster and are harder to clean.  if you're ok with that they perform just as good.   Also, IMO, they are harder to see and find.

Edited April 14, 2023 by wantacigar

[EmptyWallet]

15 minutes ago, wantacigar said:

Matte balls in general get dirty and dingy faster and are harder to clean.  if you're ok with that they perform just as good.   Also, IMO, they are harder to see and find.

Gotcha - makes sense. Walls tend to be the same way! At least in our house. LOL. 

[wantacigar]

Just now, EmptyWallet said:

Gotcha - makes sense. Walls tend to be the same way! At least in our house. LOL. 

Thank God I'm out of that phase.  My 4 kids are 22 - 29.  29 yr. old is married, 27 yr. old is getting married in Dec.  A lot of years with semi-gloss.  crayon cleans up easier off semi-gloss.  Sharpie not so much.

I have a funny, not so funny story when my 3rd daughter was 3.  Long story short, just got finished painting her bedroom and she comes down and says "Daddy, I helped paint the walls......She was holding a pen......

[st1800e]

15 hours ago, Cruisin1966 said:

Have any of my Canadian brethren found a location to get these from?  Specifically the Tour S.  GolfWorks.ca carried all Maxfli options previously, but don't seem to be now, although no break in price like DSG and GG have for the US contingent

The GW Canadian website is still not running properly after the upgrade. I don’t believe there is an alternate source in Canada.
You’d have to call them to get a definitive answer.  If you do call, please let us know what they say.  

[EmptyWallet]

3 hours ago, wantacigar said:

Thank God I'm out of that phase.  My 4 kids are 22 - 29.  29 yr. old is married, 27 yr. old is getting married in Dec.  A lot of years with semi-gloss.  crayon cleans up easier off semi-gloss.  Sharpie not so much.

I have a funny, not so funny story when my 3rd daughter was 3.  Long story short, just got finished painting her bedroom and she comes down and says "Daddy, I helped paint the walls......She was holding a pen......

Mine are 10/10/18 - so we’re out of that as well. Fun times for sure! 🤣 I have a similar “pen” story. 
 

miss those days. 

[larciel]

On 4/12/2023 at 7:18 PM, EmptyWallet said:

Is this the 2022 version for $25? Picked these up the other day. 
 

https://www.golfworks.com/maxfli-tour-golf-balls/p/mxb0028/

any free shipping code?

[EmptyWallet]

4 minutes ago, larciel said:

any free shipping code?

Not that I saw. 

[wantacigar]

7 hours ago, EmptyWallet said:

Mine are 10/10/18 - so we’re out of that as well. Fun times for sure! 🤣 I have a similar “pen” story. 
 

miss those days. 

I miss those days alot!

[kwelifan]

On 4/14/2023 at 9:07 AM, wantacigar said:

Matte balls in general get dirty and dingy faster and are harder to clean.  if you're ok with that they perform just as good.   Also, IMO, they are harder to see and find.

Disagree 100% on the harder to see and find bit.  Matte green practically glows compared to the ground around it.  Unless they are really dirty, or course, which happens easier than it does with regular balls.

[cardigan]

6 hours ago, kwelifan said:

Disagree 100% on the harder to see and find bit.  Matte green practically glows compared to the ground around it.  Unless they are really dirty, or course, which happens easier than it does with regular balls.

If they still offered the matte green I would be interested, but they stopped after the first generation.  I have zero interest in the matte white.

[wantacigar]

20 hours ago, kwelifan said:

Disagree 100% on the harder to see and find bit.  Matte green practically glows compared to the ground around it.  Unless they are really dirty, or course, which happens easier than it does with regular balls.

I was referring to matte white.

[phil75070]

Given the price, convenience of picking up balls at Dick's, and the positive comparisons to the Titleist ProV1, I wanted to like these balls so much. However, these balls and I don't get along. I find them shorter than other balls I typically play (Callaway ERC Soft, Snell MTB Black, Vice Pro Plus) off all clubs, driver and irons. Continuing to lose yardage due to the aging process, I can little afford to lose more distance because of the ball. 

Edited April 21, 2023 by phil75070

[Jeff58]

2 hours ago, phil75070 said:

Given the price, convenience of picking up balls at Dick's, and the positive comparisons to the Titleist ProV1, I wanted to like these balls so much. However, these balls and I don't get along. I find them shorter than other balls I typically play (Callaway ERC Soft, Snell MTB Black, Vice Pro Plus) off all clubs, driver and irons. Continuing to lose yardage due to the aging process, I can little afford to lose more distance because of the ball. 

What you’re likely experiencing is the nature of the group. The Tour is a V1-class ball. They launch lower than other types and have almost the same spin levels as high compression models. If your swing speed and launch mechanics are both “lower”, then you will definitely loose distance vs. almost anything else.

 

The key here IMO is that when you have a mis-alignment of characteristics, it’s easy to conclude that one model is good and another “bad”, while they’re really just different, and targeted at different player types.

[Liquid_A_45]

Ended up buying the 48 count box of the Tour x ball.  Putted around with them and the felt really good off the face.  Played an 18 hole par 3 on a very windy day.  Distance seemed as good as, if not half a club better, than the Z Stars I have been playing.  Balls heled up really well against and into the wind.  The greens were trash so not able to really report on spin.  Balls seemed very durable.  Playing a real course on Monday so I will be able to report back with a full review but so far these seem like an excellent value.

[larciel]

Call it a placebo but I felt 23 version is more clicky than 21.. 

[NoTalentLefty]

Bought this year’s Tour. No real gains or loses from last year and no regrets. 

[wantacigar]

Played a round with the 21 version.  I'm torn between the Maxfli Tour and the Vice Pro.  Almost indistinguishable.  I have 3.5 dozen of the Maxfli Tour and 9 dozen Vice Pro left (That does not include the sleeves I have in my bag-about a dozen combined between the two).  

 

On a side note.....Maxfli Tour was advertising heavily when I was watching the Zurich Classic this weekend.  Prices are going to go up again.  DSG is spending money on advertising.  LOL.

[this_is_golf]

I just picked up some Tour Xs to test. Looking for a bit higher launch. 

[Liquid_A_45]

Played in a scramble Monday so finally got to put the Tour X balls to the test.  The major standout for me was when hitting into the wind or hitting into a cross wind the balls held their line strongly.  The Tour X felt great off the face of all the clubs and had the exact amount of "softness" coming off the putter.  I played a few shots with the Z Star and a ProV1 and would say I like the feel of the Maxfli the most.  Distance seemed very similar on all 3 balls from what shots I could compare.  for a $30/dz ball this is an absolute winner for me.

[pjc]

On 4/24/2023 at 8:19 AM, wantacigar said:

Played a round with the 21 version.  I'm torn between the Maxfli Tour and the Vice Pro.  Almost indistinguishable.  I have 3.5 dozen of the Maxfli Tour and 9 dozen Vice Pro left (That does not include the sleeves I have in my bag-about a dozen combined between the two).  

 

On a side note.....Maxfli Tour was advertising heavily when I was watching the Zurich Classic this weekend.  Prices are going to go up again.  DSG is spending money on advertising.  LOL.

Yeah, I mentioned this weeks ago when they started the ads with Feherty, that as a result the price will go up.  Too bad, these used to be a fun little secret... leave it up to a mega corporation to take all the fun out of it!!

Edited April 26, 2023 by pjc

[Liquid_A_45]

19 minutes ago, pjc said:

Yeah, I mentioned this weeks ago when they started the ads with Feherty, that as a result the price will go up.  Too bad, these used to be a fun little secret... leave it up to a mega corporation to take all the fun out of it!!

 

It would be unwise for them to increase price imo.  Right now the biggest appeal is they are priced under the premium balls and unless you are a WRX member or follow the ball reviews closely, you are not heading for the Maxflis in the store.  The guys on my scramble team were even ribbing me for playing a Maxfli.

 

[larciel]

38 minutes ago, pjc said:

Yeah, I mentioned this weeks ago when they started the ads with Feherty, that as a result the price will go up.  Too bad, these used to be a fun little secret... leave it up to a mega corporation to take all the fun out of it!!

You should look at it from the other side.

Doing AD is to bring in more volume. More orders decreases cost. 

 

Eventually price will go up, but I'd take it over Maxfli being discontinued because of low sales.

[pjc]

I hear all of the responses, and yes you would think that more volume would decrease cost, but these days I don't see it working like that especially if the company is paying all those advertisement dollars and the political/economic landscape today.  I hope you're right!!

[hammergolf]

On 4/24/2023 at 7:19 AM, wantacigar said:

Played a round with the 21 version.  I'm torn between the Maxfli Tour and the Vice Pro.  Almost indistinguishable.  I have 3.5 dozen of the Maxfli Tour and 9 dozen Vice Pro left (That does not include the sleeves I have in my bag-about a dozen combined between the two).  

 

On a side note.....Maxfli Tour was advertising heavily when I was watching the Zurich Classic this weekend.  Prices are going to go up again.  DSG is spending money on advertising.  LOL.

I think the Maxfli Tour and Vice Pro are almost the identical ball. Same factory, same dimple pattern, same design.  The only distinct difference is the CG technology of the Maxfli. 

[larciel]

1 hour ago, hammergolf said:

I think the Maxfli Tour and Vice Pro are almost the identical ball. Same factory, same dimple pattern, same design.  The only distinct difference is the CG technology of the Maxfli. 

does CG help alot? even if it's not Maxfli. (manually marking CG spot)

[hammergolf]

36 minutes ago, larciel said:

does CG help alot? even if it's not Maxfli. (manually marking CG spot)

I’ve heard some say it makes a difference but how much or if it’s a placebo effect I don’t know.

[wantacigar]

12 hours ago, larciel said:

does CG help alot? even if it's not Maxfli. (manually marking CG spot)

 

11 hours ago, hammergolf said:

I’ve heard some say it makes a difference but how much or if it’s a placebo effect I don’t know.

I've never really paid attention to the CG.  Unless you're a scratch golfer I couldn't tell if it's the ball or me that pushed sliced that ball into the lake or woods.  Most likely it's me because I've played allot of golf balls in my day an they all have a tendency to disappear.  🤦‍♂️ 

[Jeff58]

4 hours ago, wantacigar said:

 

I've never really paid attention to the CG.  Unless you're a scratch golfer I couldn't tell if it's the ball or me that pushed sliced that ball into the lake or woods.  Most likely it's me because I've played allot of golf balls in my day an they all have a tendency to disappear.  🤦‍♂️ 

Part of the confusion is that they aren’t actually marking the CG, since its location is actually inside the ball.

 

What is likely happening is that after the ball is manufactured, they are floating it, likely on air, to achieve what some were doing with the epsom salt trick. The point that is then “up” is marked. There are two questions though- what does that mean, and what do you do about it.

 

Using epsom salts or similar was generally intended to be a gross test of centering. A ball that was perfectly centered would float aimlessly, while a significant decentered ball would quickly flip. The problem with the Maxfli mark is that there is no indication of quality. It may be perfect, or grossly inferior, and you won’t know.

 

With a ball that is marked in this way, how do you orient it? The obvious answer is that you put the mark “up”. If you do that, the ball will obviously roll light/heavy/light/heavy, etc. That’s optimal as long as it does continue to do that. However, if your spin axis isn’t perfect, the “heavy” point will tend to pull the ball off line to the greatest extent possible, which is at least theoretically bad.

 

The alternative is to place the mark at 90 degrees from vertical. In this orientation, whatever effect exists will tend to be the most consistent. While this is probably the “best” approach, I doubt anyone in the history of golf has actually done this.

[VladDrag]

On 4/24/2023 at 8:19 AM, wantacigar said:

Played a round with the 21 version.  I'm torn between the Maxfli Tour and the Vice Pro.  Almost indistinguishable.  I have 3.5 dozen of the Maxfli Tour and 9 dozen Vice Pro left (That does not include the sleeves I have in my bag-about a dozen combined between the two).  

 

On a side note.....Maxfli Tour was advertising heavily when I was watching the Zurich Classic this weekend.  Prices are going to go up again.  DSG is spending money on advertising.  LOL.

I have some launch monitor data from the maxfli Tour vs. Vice Pro vs. ProV1 from a session I did back in October.  In general, all were pretty close, and I didn't hit many shots with all of the balls, just about 4 or 5 for each ball. Cliff Notes for each type of shot is:

 

50 yard shot: Vice and Maxfli spin and launch pretty much identical, ProV1 had about 300 more rpms, launching 1* lower. All in all, not much difference in these balls.

 

Full PW: Vice Pro spun more than Maxfli Tour  (9,457 rpm to 8,725rpm). ProV1 spun the least at 8,627.  Launch angles were very similar between all three.

 

Full 7i: Vice Pro spun more than the Maxfli Tour (7,390 rpm to 6,993 rpm ), and launched lower (17.7* to 19.1*) than maxfli. ProV1 had near identical launch numbers to maxfli.

 

Driver: Vice Pro and Maxfli both averaged 166.8 ball speed, 12 launch, and very low spin (1,800 with maxfli, 2100 with Vice Pro). The ProV1 averaged 169 ball speed, and had a few 170+mph balls. Thing is, I'm not sure what the swing speed was for each shot (GC Hawk with no club data, only ball data), so it's possible I was swinging a touch faster with the ProV1.  It's also possible the ProV1 has a better core for high speed retention. I personally feel like it's more to do with the internal core of the balls, and not my swing speed. I've noticed on the course that the Maxfli Tour is about 10 yards shorter than other balls, so I think it's more overcompression than slower swing. At some swing speed, both the tour and the pro become too soft; however, I'm not sure where the cutoff is.