Bryson's new PING irons (*** NO LIV REFERENCES/DISCUSSIONS ***)

[T_Golf_23]

4 hours ago, Bdck said:

I'd argue wasting gapping on 3 chippers is a mistake.

 

I go

48⁰ - 165

54⁰ - 140

60⁰ - 125

 

Anything under 125 is 60⁰ unless I'm playing in heavy wind.  Adding 2 more clubs is just wasted space.

 

My bigger challenge is filling the sub 3 wood tee shots and long par 5 approaches when the swing is feeling good.

 

I play a 2 iron for stingers and a 5 wood that spins 5k+ and is basically a 250-280 wedge that rips back.

 

Those two clubs provide way more utility than complicating my wedge game.

 

What does a 54 accomplish that a flighted 60 doesn't?

stats reflect this position…. You are better carrying clubs that help you hit more GIR from farther out than wasting clubs on wedges… i don’t even take a full swing at shots inside 100 yards…. They are all knock down or flighted shots using different irons and wedges. 
 

much rather use the spots for UI/ hybrids / wood to have better approaches. 

 

then again…. NO one is paying me money to play golf… so what do I know. 

[mstuewe]

6 hours ago, T_Golf_23 said:

stats reflect this position…. You are better carrying clubs that help you hit more GIR from farther out than wasting clubs on wedges… i don’t even take a full swing at shots inside 100 yards…. They are all knock down or flighted shots using different irons and wedges. 
 

much rather use the spots for UI/ hybrids / wood to have better approaches. 

 

then again…. NO one is paying me money to play golf… so what do I know. 

What stats back this up?  There are more shots within 150 yards than 175-225, so wouldn’t it make sense to carry more wedges?  I’ve been thinking about this with my gapping, carrying 5 wedges that are 12 yards apart instead of worry about having a 210 and a 225 club.

Edited February 25, 2023 by mstuewe

[kwcsports]

8 hours ago, Lacey Underall said:

I always wonder….what is the payoff for Ping here? They probably spent hundreds of man hours and thousands of dollars dialing these in. Outside of this forum, zero people will know or care. Ping will never release these and even if they did - 10 people will buy them. I guess you are hoping he wins a major this year?

Payoff is reg people seeing or hearing that Bryson is playing Ping. Doesn't matter what irons, woods, etc.... He's playing Ping and people will look at Ping because of him. 

Edited February 25, 2023 by kwcsports
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[Esco9]

10 hours ago, Bdck said:

I'd argue wasting gapping on 3 chippers is a mistake.

 

I go

48⁰ - 165

54⁰ - 140

60⁰ - 125

 

Anything under 125 is 60⁰ unless I'm playing in heavy wind.  Adding 2 more clubs is just wasted space.

 

My bigger challenge is filling the sub 3 wood tee shots and long par 5 approaches when the swing is feeling good.

 

I play a 2 iron for stingers and a 5 wood that spins 5k+ and is basically a 250-280 wedge that rips back.

 

Those two clubs provide way more utility than complicating my wedge game.

 

What does a 54 accomplish that a flighted 60 doesn't?

I didn’t know Kyle Berkshire was on golfwrx

[Binson]

8 hours ago, ilikegolf26 said:

That G410 Crossover was so hot off the face . 

I’ve only hit the 425 Crossover.  Seemed to be a higher and softer landing ball-flight than my 425 hybrid.  Really interesting since I would have thought the opposite.  It still felt hot though.

 

Might be something different in the DNA there between the two.  

[Ex Blade User]

Let’s see how long this lasts. I meant his results don’t really matter anymore so maybe he’ll be more chill 

[GwrxMod]

Topic cleaned up. Keep responses on topic. No LIV talk. There's a main LIV topic for that. 

 

The topic will stay moderated until it gets back on track. 

 

 

Edited February 25, 2023 by 1t2golf

[J_Tizzle]

15 hours ago, badandbogey said:

I rock 5 wedges too. 44/48/53/58/63. 

 

 

 

15 hours ago, Bdck said:

I'd argue wasting gapping on 3 chippers is a mistake.

 

I go

48⁰ - 165

54⁰ - 140

60⁰ - 125

 

Anything under 125 is 60⁰ unless I'm playing in heavy wind.  Adding 2 more clubs is just wasted space.

 

My bigger challenge is filling the sub 3 wood tee shots and long par 5 approaches when the swing is feeling good.

 

I play a 2 iron for stingers and a 5 wood that spins 5k+ and is basically a 250-280 wedge that rips back.

 

Those two clubs provide way more utility than complicating my wedge game.

 

What does a 54 accomplish that a flighted 60 doesn't?

 

Or not...

 

3w - 250

3h - 230

4i - 215

6i - 200

 

45 - 140 

50 - 125

54 - 110

58 - 95

62 - 80

 

Like I said not really worth arguing if you can hit a 5w 280 yards...  We obviously play different games.  I'm sure you have an opinion on me side saddle putting too, lol.  

[hammergolf]

7 hours ago, Esco9 said:

I didn’t know Kyle Berkshire was on golfwrx

True, never seen a 5wd back up before unless it was a trick shot.

[RacineBoxer]

20 hours ago, Bdck said:

5 wedges?????

 

48/54/60 gang bruh

 

What irons do you play? 

[J_Tizzle]

2 hours ago, RacineBoxer said:

 

What irons do you play? 

 

Whatever the brand probably just 4-5 of them since the 60* goes 125 yards...

 

I don't even understand how your gapping works if your 5w goes 280 and your 60* goes 125...

 

If your wedge goes 165, that should make your 9i go 180, 8i goes 195, 7i go 210, 6i is 225, 5i 240, 4i 255, stinger 2i goes 370, 5w goes 280 but backs up to 270 lol.

Edited February 25, 2023 by J_Tizzle

[Ex Blade User]

2 hours ago, J_Tizzle said:

 

Whatever the brand probably just 4-5 of them since the 60* goes 125 yards...

 

I don't even understand how your gapping works if your 5w goes 280 and your 60* goes 125...

 

If your wedge goes 165, that should make your 9i go 180, 8i goes 195, 7i go 210, 6i is 225, 5i 240, 4i 255, stinger 2i goes 370, 5w goes 280 but backs up to 270 lol.

Yea but what do you hit 75 yards 

[J_Tizzle]

2 hours ago, Ex Blade User said:

Yea but what do you hit 75 yards 

 

1/7th a 60*.

[Esco9]

14 hours ago, J_Tizzle said:

 

Whatever the brand probably just 4-5 of them since the 60* goes 125 yards...

 

I don't even understand how your gapping works if your 5w goes 280 and your 60* goes 125...

 

If your wedge goes 165, that should make your 9i go 180, 8i goes 195, 7i go 210, 6i is 225, 5i 240, 4i 255, stinger 2i goes 370, 5w goes 280 but backs up to 270 lol.

Seriously, but I’m sorry if Kyle Berkshire, Drew Cooper, etc don’t hit it as far as this guy then it really is another case of extreme exaggeration from a golfwrxer. +5 and those yardages, when’s the oceanfront property in Montana going to be up for sale? 

[GrandStranded]

1 hour ago, Titleist99 said:

That's was the only hole that I watched. Why was Uilein being driven in a cart?

 

It didn't seem like professional golf to me.....Charles Howell III and Peter Uilein was just not that compelling to me.

You’ve been putting down LIV golf for over a year now. At what point do you simply move on, not watch, and stop telling us you don’t find it compelling?

 

[alex_bedwell]

On 2/24/2023 at 9:44 PM, Bdck said:

I'd argue wasting gapping on 3 chippers is a mistake.

 

I go

48⁰ - 165

54⁰ - 140

60⁰ - 125

 

Anything under 125 is 60⁰ unless I'm playing in heavy wind.  Adding 2 more clubs is just wasted space.

 

My bigger challenge is filling the sub 3 wood tee shots and long par 5 approaches when the swing is feeling good.

 

I play a 2 iron for stingers and a 5 wood that spins 5k+ and is basically a 250-280 wedge that rips back.

 

Those two clubs provide way more utility than complicating my wedge game.

 

What does a 54 accomplish that a flighted 60 doesn't?

https://golf.com/gear/irons/kyle-berkshire-world-long-drive-club-distances/?amp=1

[RogerinNewZealand]

On 2/25/2023 at 11:18 AM, BombinJim said:

Probably loft jacked to all hell with a 24 degree 8 iron.

LOVE this comment😊 and PlayYourVeryBest with the clubs

[sociojeje]

He always tinkers. After a disappointing result at the opener, he may go with something else. Hope he does WITB on his YouTube channel soon.

[boggyman]

He just needs to get outta his own way and get back to playing good golf! 

[Viper4225]

PING is an engineering company, seems like a good fit for Bryson. I know he's using the STEALTH 2 driver, anyone know what fairways he using? 

 

 

[Esco9]

1 hour ago, boggyman said:

He just needs to get outta his own way and get back to playing good golf! 

Yeah 4Head just do that 

[sadclevelandsports]

I think loft jacking is fine if you are hitting the correct peak height and descent angle. "Correct" values for normal lofts goes out the window at higher swing speeds.

[iNeedMoreGolf]

I thought i was the only person who can backspin stinger a 5w from 290 and hit my 64 150 😔

 

[mogc60]

Shows the versatility Ping designs into their irons and tuning ports to be able to convert these to OL 

[animalgolfs]

I find it amusing that everyone calls a SingleLength 28* iron an 8 iron

 

 

[BCC1898]

How Bryson DeChambeau's Ping irons came to life | Wall-to-Wall (golf.com)

[amace04]

48 minutes ago, animalgolfs said:

I find it amusing that everyone calls a SingleLength 28* iron an 8 iron

 

 

I find it amusing that anybody cares what they call it

[Anser3]

On 2/24/2023 at 11:30 PM, AzRoger said:

I'm pretty sure Ping was willing to spend the time and money to build a custom set for Bryson. Even if nothing comes of it there's an opportunity for them to pick up some good engineering and design analysis for future clubs from a top tour player that's willing to think outside the box.

 

Agree 100%.  For sure they used this as an opportunity to tinker with the one-length idea, even if they will never release these.   Ping made irons for Sergio Garcia too and he was never a Ping staffer.  Ping will not sign Bryson to any equipment deal.

[bifftaco]

1 hour ago, BCC1898 said:

How Bryson DeChambeau's Ping irons came to life | Wall-to-Wall (golf.com)

 

Wow, that was a cool read. Bryson not caring about which head model, just the specs. Total weight vs swing weight. So many unique properties.

 

Pretty impressive the Ping guys were able to pull that off in less than a day using off the shelf i230 heads.

[BagofToast]

1 hour ago, BCC1898 said:

How Bryson DeChambeau's Ping irons came to life | Wall-to-Wall (golf.com)

Really cool read. Nice on Ping to do that complicated of a set for him.