Titleist Woods 2024

[LinkLow]

1 minute ago, getair23 said:

Have you tried the B1 or C1 setting?  I use those in the 5w for that reason.  

 

Yes sir, I actually run the C4 setting in the 8 degree head, so I have it laying flat/open as much as it can. I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this!

[asroma19]

Heard from a source connected to a player who has been testing pre-release prototypes. Commented that Titleist is going away from the material for the face, the ATI. Just passing along! 

[btyh]

7 hours ago, asroma19 said:

Heard from a source connected to a player who has been testing pre-release prototypes. Commented that Titleist is going away from the material for the face, the ATI. Just passing along! 

If so then they found a alloy that gave same results. Or ATI wasn't really the tech behind the ball speed 

[corky]

10 hours ago, btyh said:

If so then they found an alloy that gave same results. Or ATI wasn't really the tech behind the ball speed 

OR a composite…….

[tippethor]

or all is just 100% marketing BS 😉

[toddyc]

5 hours ago, tippethor said:

or all is just 100% marketing BS 😉

Do people ever get tired of saying this over and over

[pjc]

1 hour ago, toddyc said:

Do people ever get tired of saying this over and over

Nope, because it's the truth weather one accepts it or not.

[GolfinDave]

People seem to love to come in on these and say how nothing has changed and it's all bs. Someone is looking forward to something and they just want to rain on the parade. "I'm going to buy a new computer."  "You know those haven't changed much in the last 8 years, why would you do that, it's all BS?". "I'm thinking of buying some new shoes" "Shoe design is effectively the same for over a thousand years". People buy new things, fashion, home furnishings, appliances, etc. and are excited to learn about the product and try something new. Then there's the people who just like to rain on other's parade and act smarter than everyone else. No one is saying, wow I can't wait for this new material that will make me drive it 20 yards further with 50% better dispersion. 

[Whodamon1]

32 minutes ago, pjc said:

Nope, because it's the truth weather one accepts it or not.

So... how is the whether where you are?

[TroyB123]

On 2/10/2024 at 2:31 PM, uglande said:

ProV1x balls, AVX balls, Red X putters, Phantom X putters

AVX balls ... "FULL THROTTLE DISTANCE" 

RCT balls ... "RADAR CAPTURE TECHNOLOGY" 

 

🤷‍♂️

 

 

 

 

 

Confused about the RCT comment?  That is exactly what they are for.

[54CW]

4 hours ago, toddyc said:

Do people ever get tired of saying this over and over

[btyh]

10 hours ago, corky said:

OR a composite…….

Crown? Absolutely possible but doubt it.

 

 

Face. Absolutely not lol

[pjc]

2 hours ago, GolfinDave said:

People seem to love to come in on these and say how nothing has changed and it's all bs. Someone is looking forward to something and they just want to rain on the parade. "I'm going to buy a new computer."  "You know those haven't changed much in the last 8 years, why would you do that, it's all BS?". "I'm thinking of buying some new shoes" "Shoe design is effectively the same for over a thousand years". People buy new things, fashion, home furnishings, appliances, etc. and are excited to learn about the product and try something new. Then there's the people who just like to rain on other's parade and act smarter than everyone else. No one is saying, wow I can't wait for this new material that will make me drive it 20 yards further with 50% better dispersion. 

Why taking so personally?  It is marketing BS, and nobody is trying to rain on any parade, just pointing out that it will be "new" not better.  If one wants to buy into it, go ahead.  It takes many generations of anything for a significant change generally for most products.  Nobody is saying that they are smarter or saying that somebody is dumb.  Damn, it's just a sentence or two on a golf internet board.

[pjc]

2 hours ago, Whodamon1 said:

So... how is the whether where you are?

Just fine

Edited February 29 by pjc

[Ginacio11]

1 hour ago, pjc said:

Why taking so personally?  It is marketing BS, and nobody is trying to rain on any parade, just pointing out that it will be "new" not better.  If one wants to buy into it, go ahead.  It takes many generations of anything for a significant change generally for most products.  Nobody is saying that they are smarter or saying that somebody is dumb.  Damn, it's just a sentence or two on a golf internet board.

Cmon man be honest. You don’t even know what it is that will be new and you’re saying it won’t be better. It’s exactly what you’re doing. 

[pjc]

11 minutes ago, Ginacio11 said:

Cmon man be honest. You don’t even know what it is that will be new and you’re saying it won’t be better. It’s exactly what you’re doing. 

First of all, that is not true.  At no point was it stated by myself that something will or will not be better.  I just agreed to a previous poster before me that stated that the face material may be changing from what they have been using and thus creating more marketing BS and you must be living under a rock if you don't see that.  Second, what defines "better"?  I play a TSR2 driver at the moment, and a fairway, there is no bad mouthing going on, just the fact that Titleist, along with many other companies will have marketing BS on a new product weather better or not.

[Whodamon1]

2 hours ago, pjc said:

Why taking so personally?  It is marketing BS, and nobody is trying to rain on any parade, just pointing out that it will be "new" not better.  If one wants to buy into it, go ahead.  It takes many generations of anything for a significant change generally for most products.  Nobody is saying that they are smarter or saying that somebody is dumb.  Damn, it's just a sentence or two on a golf internet board.

...yeah, you did!

[bobfoster]

2 hours ago, pjc said:

Why taking so personally?  It is marketing BS, and nobody is trying to rain on any parade, just pointing out that it will be "new" not better.  If one wants to buy into it, go ahead.  It takes many generations of anything for a significant change generally for most products.  Nobody is saying that they are smarter or saying that somebody is dumb.  Damn, it's just a sentence or two on a golf internet board.

Well yes, just pointing out your opinion that it is all marketing BS. You are certainly free to have that opinion if you wish, but I've been playing the TSR3 driver, and TSR2 3W/5W, and they are definitely the best woods I've ever played. Noticeably different (though in subtle ways) from the TSi line, and (IMO) significantly better than the TS or 917 lines. 

 

Marketing is certainly part of every OEM product release, and yes, no new release is going to do something dramatic like automatically add ten yards to your drives, but simply dismissing all new releases as merely marketing hype seems to kinda - overstate the fact. The OEMs put millions of dollars, and use significant technology to perpetually develop (often in conjunction with the sponsored pros) and prototype new clubs (and shafts and balls).  

 

It is silly to just completely believe all marketing hype, but this is WRX, and few people here do that. They talk about actual performance - on launch monitors and on the course - of clubs that they game. I believe, however, that it also silly (though at the other extreme) to definitively state - especially of a club that hasn't even been released yet - that it will only be new, and not better.

Edited February 29 by bobfoster

[pjc]

12 hours ago, tippethor said:

or all is just 100% marketing BS 😉

This is the post that I agreed with, not my post from the jump.  All of this nonsense is just stupid.  At no point did anybody say that the new driver face will be better or worse.  It will for some and it won't for other's.  The point is no matter what, there will be marketing BS stating that it will be great no matter what, that's what marketing is.  But, Titleist does not even come close to the overboard stuff that TM or Callaway do for example.  Yes, something will change on the new clubs, is there going to be marketing BS?  Yes, there will be.  Will it be better?  Again, most likely some will say yes, and some will say no.  Can't be anymore clear.

Edited February 29 by pjc

[dwboston]

7 hours ago, pjc said:

Nope, because it's the truth weather one accepts it or not.

 

"truth weather"?  Is that like a climate change thing?

[54CW]

It is all marketing BS though. It’s nauseating and I take full responsibility for subjecting myself to it. It’s the reason I’ve deleted Instagram and Facebook etc. 
 

The modern golf equipment industry doesn’t survive without MBS (marketing BS, not the other MBS)

 

Year after year they pitch new models, new paint, and other configs as these manufacturers develop changes in their supply chain, materials, assembly, labor, and MBS to put a nice bow on it. There are marginal improvements YoY in these categories and MBS has to move that product. I really don’t see the performance improvements, I see cost, club building, and labor improvements. “How can we build a club that costs less and has a larger profit margin?”
It’s a profit driven industry, not product performance driven. Those improvements crest in different generations of product; persimmon->metalwood->titanium-> adj hosels etc. 

 

Would I love to see companies move to 5+ year product cycles that put out vastly different performing products? Maybe except that would get boring. I think it would be great, we could see less waste and more focus on playing better instead of buying better. 
 

End of sanctimony, show me the new club already!

Edited March 1 by 54CW
Forgot something.

[wfrogge1]

Man this is all marketing BS. You know damn well that the USGA has limits and the OEMS reached those limits years ago.... Don't go wasting your money buying a new driver.


Yeah I'll be buying the new Titleist driver. Golf club ho'ing is a helluva drug 

[aph2011]

11 hours ago, 54CW said:

It is all marketing BS though. It’s nauseating and I take full responsibility for subjecting myself to it. It’s the reason I’ve deleted Instagram and Facebook etc. 
 

The modern golf equipment industry doesn’t survive without MBS (marketing BS, not the other MBS)

 

Year after year they pitch new models, new paint, and other configs as these manufacturers develop changes in their supply chain, materials, assembly, labor, and MBS to put a nice bow on it. There are marginal improvements YoY in these categories and MBS has to move that product. I really don’t see the performance improvements, I see cost, club building, and labor improvements. “How can we build a club that costs less and has a larger profit margin?”
It’s a profit driven industry, not product performance driven. Those improvements crest in different generations of product; persimmon->metalwood->titanium-> adj hosels etc. 

 

Would I love to see companies move to 5+ year product cycles that put out vastly different performing products? Maybe except that would get boring. I think it would be great, we could see less waste and more focus on playing better instead of buying better. 
 

End of sanctimony, show me the new club already!

@GolfWRX_Official could the mods possibly try to police these kinds of threads a little more proactively? If folks want to have a “get off my lawn thread” on equipment costs, product release cycles etc they should do so in a dedicated forum. Allowing them to troll in threads where most people are coming to hear any rumors / intel about new product releases (not pontification by keyboard warriors) detracts from the value of these pre-release threads to most users in my opinion. 

[toddyc]

22 hours ago, pjc said:

Nope, because it's the truth weather one accepts it or not.

100% is marketing bs? All of it? There isn’t a single thing in the product that warrants legitimate claims in promotions?
 

come on man you know that isn’t true

17 hours ago, pjc said:

First of all, that is not true.  At no point was it stated by myself that something will or will not be better.  I just agreed to a previous poster before me that stated that the face material may be changing from what they have been using and thus creating more marketing BS and you must be living under a rock if you don't see that.  Second, what defines "better"?  I play a TSR2 driver at the moment, and a fairway, there is no bad mouthing going on, just the fact that Titleist, along with many other companies will have marketing BS on a new product weather better or not.

Yeah they will say they made a new face and it’s great. Big deal.
 

it’s not like they’re saying you will die if you don’t get it (looking at you Pfizer)  

[Golfinfloridaafter40]

I am a Titleist fan, but can't imagine them improving on TSR3.  Super forgiving, long as anything I have ever hit, launches super high with very little spin, feels 1000 times better than these junky carbon drivers, and looks perfect at address.  What more could you possibly want?

[Llortamaisey]

16 minutes ago, Golfinfloridaafter40 said:

I am a Titleist fan, but can't imagine them improving on TSR3.  Super forgiving, long as anything I have ever hit, launches super high with very little spin, feels 1000 times better than these junky carbon drivers, and looks perfect at address.  What more could you possibly want?

It would be cool if they added a front weight to the TSR3, similar to the TSR4, to give it more adjustability and a lower spin setting. 

[Rpete33]

2 minutes ago, Llortamaisey said:

It would be cool if they added a front weight to the TSR3, similar to the TSR4, to give it more adjustability and a lower spin setting. 

I would agree with this 

[54CW]

3 hours ago, aph2011 said:

@GolfWRX_Official could the mods possibly try to police these kinds of threads a little more proactively? If folks want to have a “get off my lawn thread” on equipment costs, product release cycles etc they should do so in a dedicated forum. Allowing them to troll in threads where most people are coming to hear any rumors / intel about new product releases (not pontification by keyboard warriors) detracts from the value of these pre-release threads to most users in my opinion. 

They’re not leaking the photo until May, what else are we supposed to talk about? 

[Green Lit]

4 hours ago, aph2011 said:

@GolfWRX_Official could the mods possibly try to police these kinds of threads a little more proactively? If folks want to have a “get off my lawn thread” on equipment costs, product release cycles etc they should do so in a dedicated forum. Allowing them to troll in threads where most people are coming to hear any rumors / intel about new product releases (not pontification by keyboard warriors) detracts from the value of these pre-release threads to most users in my opinion. 

This.  It's annoying to scroll thru multiple posts about someone's hatred of capitalism.  

[SaVo_]

they are going to try and push these out to the public sooner, around august is the goal as said by local Titleist rep. Also i know this is covering the woods but was also told they will be releasing a counterbalance putter, not sure what head.