Please recommend an old school driver that can still keep up today!

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  • Exactice808Exactice808 Just want to hit ball far and go find it... Members Posts: 4,469 ✭✭
    Mitchell wrote:


    R510tp (or any of r500 series that suits you)

    Rapture V2



    Exactice,

    Nice to see you posting again bruddah! Keiki must be keeping ya busy- best wishes to you, your wife and all the rest of your ohana.��




    Waaazzaaaapppp Mitchel... brahh keeds getting big! They grow too fast! Its nice to be back but gotta admit, just made one of those need help post in the other sections LOL!



    I think I am better at advice then playing....... Happy Holidays to you and your family my friend!
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    TM M2v1 - 
    TM 18* M2 
    TM TP MC 4 & 5 PX 6.0 Rifles
    Cobra AMP Cell Pro 6-PW PX 6.0 Rifles
    Titleist SM5 Vokey50*/8*, 54*/10* & 58*/8* X100's
    Scotty Newport 2 33"
  • Ri_RedneckRi_Redneck Leather for Life!! Members Posts: 5,448 ✭✭
    The main differences I see between today's drivers and the "Old" ones is the MOI and the spin they produce in relation to their loft. No one will argue that the MOI of today's heads beats the smaller old heads. But if you compare center strikes, it's a different story. I have several 975 LFE drivers of varying lofts and shafts. When comparing my 9.5* 975LFE (GD YS-8.1 mid-launch) to my current drivers set to 9.5*, the current models have a lower launch, less spin and go farther. However, if I take my 7.5* 975 LFE (Matrix HD8 low-launch) and compare it to my current drivers at 9.5*, things get a lot closer. Perhaps those doing these tests should get heads that give similar launch conditions instead of similar specs?



    BT
    Bag 1
    F7 9.5* - Aldila Copperhead 70TX @ 44.5
    King LTD Blk 14.5* - Aldila RIP Beta 80 S @ 43
    King LTD Blk 19* - Aldila RIP Beta 80 S @ 41.5
    Mizuno MP15 4-pw - Aldila RIP Tour 115 R
    Mizuno MP-T5 Black 52, 56 & 60 - TT Wedge

    Bag 2
    Mizuno ST180 9.5* - Diamana Kai'Li 70 X
    Mizuno GPX850 14.5* - Motore Speeder TS 7.3 S
    Mizuno GPX850 20* - Motore Speeder TS 8.3
    Mizuno MP25 4-pw - Recoil Proto 125 F4
    Mizuno MP-T5 Satin 52, 56, & 60 TT Wedge
  • byrne092byrne092 Members Posts: 98 ✭✭
    Cleveland HiBore XL image/pimp.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pimp:' />
  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Allez Allez Allez Minnesota, USAMembers Posts: 6,281 ✭✭
    edited Dec 14, 2018 #35
    If you want to go hardcore oldski, J's Professional Weapon. Assuming you can stand the super small size, that is.



    I'm also tempted to suggest a sleeper... one of the Ping laminate drivers. My longest drive of the last three years is with a Zing Blonde with KT-M shaft. I've driven a shortish par 4 with a King LTD, SLDR, SuperDeep, and none of them could yet equal the Zing Blonde tee shot I hit in 2016.



    Yes, it's the ultimate in small sample size theater, but.... image/pimp.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pimp:' />



    A more "normal" suggestion would be an R510 or R540, maybe an R9. <shrug>
    The Ever Changing Bag!

    Driver: Cobra King LTD, ProtoPype 80x or RIP 80x, 43.5" -or- SuperDeep 9.5*, ProtoPype 80x or NV85x, 43.5"
    3w: Cobra King LTD, Motore F1 85 X, 42.5"
    1 iron: Maxfli Revolution, DGS400
    2-PW, Golden Ram Tour Grind, Dynamic S
    SW: Ram Tour Grind Feel Matched 58*, DGS
    Putter: Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34.5", PP58 midsize grip
    (Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 35" -or- Mizuno TPM-2, 35" as backups)
    Balls: in no particular order... Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Urethane, or 50 Elite, Srixon ZStar/ZStar XV, Snell MTB Black... will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time
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  • ChristopherMcDonaldChristopherMcDonald Members Posts: 2,396 ✭✭
    Positive it's been mentioned but 07 Burner TP is awesome
    King LTD Rogue 95 MSI
    2007 Burner 3 Wood Aldila Serrano 75
    2007 Burner 5 Wood Aldila Serrano 75
    Taylormade Jetspeed Hybrid True Temper Project X 6.0
    Adams XTD Tour 5-GW True Temper Dynamic Gold S300 AMT
    Scratch Tour Issue 1018 56* True Temper Dynamic Gold S300 AMT
    Scratch Tour Issue 1018 60* True Temper Dynamic Gold S300 AMT
    Custom Cameron & Crown 5MB
    Wilson Staff Duo
  • ChristopherMcDonaldChristopherMcDonald Members Posts: 2,396 ✭✭
    gbartko wrote:


    the billy club!




    dude in my group has one of these. Smashes the s*** out of it
    King LTD Rogue 95 MSI
    2007 Burner 3 Wood Aldila Serrano 75
    2007 Burner 5 Wood Aldila Serrano 75
    Taylormade Jetspeed Hybrid True Temper Project X 6.0
    Adams XTD Tour 5-GW True Temper Dynamic Gold S300 AMT
    Scratch Tour Issue 1018 56* True Temper Dynamic Gold S300 AMT
    Scratch Tour Issue 1018 60* True Temper Dynamic Gold S300 AMT
    Custom Cameron & Crown 5MB
    Wilson Staff Duo
  • DpavsDpavs OverWRX'ed Members Posts: 3,335 ✭✭
    edited Dec 14, 2018 #38

    RodC wrote:


    The question is WHY?




    Putting together a semi semi vintage bag, need a driver to go along with Tommy Armour Silver Scot 845 Irons, crazy yes. I don't even remember what drivers I was using when I was playing these irons in the early 90s. Possibly a Powerbilt Persimmon Citation, Original Big Bertha, Taylor Made Burner, Great Big Bertha which are all obsolete now.



    May look into the 910D3, I remember liking that driver.




    I have this TA Beta Ti sitting in the closet simply because I liked the finish on it so much..lol. It sits there quietly with a 983K H-Cr (illegal for anything other than pure recreational play of course) which has one of the original Ion finish Diamana Red Flowerband shafts. Both of these still fair well when I take them out just for kicks. In fact, that Diamana shaft is still so good I have often thought about pairing it with a more modern head to see what it could do.



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  • theothertwotheothertwo Members Posts: 2,481 ✭✭
    Dpavs wrote:


    RodC wrote:


    The question is WHY?




    Putting together a semi semi vintage bag, need a driver to go along with Tommy Armour Silver Scot 845 Irons, crazy yes. I don't even remember what drivers I was using when I was playing these irons in the early 90s. Possibly a Powerbilt Persimmon Citation, Original Big Bertha, Taylor Made Burner, Great Big Bertha which are all obsolete now.



    May look into the 910D3, I remember liking that driver.




    I have this TA Beta Ti sitting in the closet simply because I liked the finish on it so much..lol. It sits there quietly with a 983K H-Cr (illegal for anything other than pure recreational play of course) which has one of the original Ion finish Diamana Red Flowerband shafts. Both of these still fair well when I take them out just for kicks. In fact, that Diamana shaft is still so good I have often thought about pairing it with a more modern head to see what it could do.



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    I had this beautiful driver and it worked. Wish I kept it.
    Honma TW 727 455s 10.5* Driver
    Honma TW 727 18* 5 Wood
    Honma TW 727 22* Hybrid
    Miura CB 57 4-PW Irons
    Miura Tour 2018 52 and 58 Wedges
    Wilson 8802 Milled Putter
  • kiwiikiwii Members Posts: 736 ✭✭
    How old are we talking? I’m seeing clubs from all different ages.



    The oldest club that I have hit recently that holds its own is the Great Big Bertha titanium warbird 6.5°. Of course it’s not “as” long but surprising for its design. It has the “vintage” look.
    '17 M1 460 9.5/ Rogue Silver
    XR '14 Pro/ PX LZ
    Adams 9031 18°/ Diamana WB
    716 AP24-pw/DG AMT S300
    '14 TM TP 52/56/60
    2014 Squareback/ Lamkin DE + 2 wraps
    Ogio Ozone, TM targa tour
    Tour Boost 360
    TM TP5/ Srixon Zstar XV
  • DixieDDixieD Members Posts: 158
    510tp, J33r, FT Tour. Have all these in my collection and they still make it into my bag and don't lose any distance to my 917. Id say the J33r may be slightly shorter but we are talking 5 yards on good hits with my 105 swing speed. The feel of them is unmatched by today's offerings.
  • scruffynickscruffynick Members Posts: 1,482 ✭✭
    Ping g10 will do you, still brilliant today. Aso any srixon, very classic looking too.
  • Exactice808Exactice808 Just want to hit ball far and go find it... Members Posts: 4,469 ✭✭
    edited Dec 17, 2018 #43
    So this is NOT a perfect science test... but validates a little more from my initial post.



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1722140-please-recommend-an-old-school-driver-that-can-still-keep-up-today/#entry18368474





    Current Driver 915D3 - Diamana white board 70S 45", D2swing weight



    last minute golf Friday no clubs just back up set i my office.



    07 Burner - Stock ReAX TP 65 stiff- Cut to 43" D2 swing weight.





    I drove the ball exceptionally well (driver is usually the weakest part of my game) BUT a specified hole #14 i generally take a smash at it, The longest I have hit was probably as solid 270 total distance.... Fridays with the 07burner 278 yards.



    Not ultra long but the point is that a 43" cut down driver, from 2006 can go JUST as for as a full length 45" 2014 Driver. 8 years in tech between the 2, but netted gains was negligible.
    Titleist 915D3 
    TM M2v1 - 
    TM 18* M2 
    TM TP MC 4 & 5 PX 6.0 Rifles
    Cobra AMP Cell Pro 6-PW PX 6.0 Rifles
    Titleist SM5 Vokey50*/8*, 54*/10* & 58*/8* X100's
    Scotty Newport 2 33"
  • sdandreasdandrea Steve Members Posts: 2,352 ✭✭
    Another vote for the 2007 Burner and the PING K15.
    Cobra Max 10.5*
    Cobra Baffler T Rail 19*
    Cobra Baffler 5h
    Maltby Tricept F1 6-GW
    Callaway Sure Out 56*
    Odyssey V-Line
  • kiwihackerkiwihacker Members Posts: 707 ✭✭
    I still bag my 2004 Cleveland Launcher from time to time and lose very little. My modern (2016) driver is a little more forgiving if you miss the centre of the clubface but that's about it. In 18 holes I reckon bagging the old driver costs me zero strokes.
    Cobra King F6 Driver 10.5°
    17° Callaway X Hot 4 wood
    20.5°& 23° Cleveland DST Launcher hybrids
    Taylormade R7 TP 5-PW irons
    Cleveland RTX 2 5O°, 54°, Callaway MD Forged 58°
    Ping Anser Sigma 2 putter
  • jonn443jonn443 Jonnystx Members Posts: 4,596 ✭✭
    R7 425 TP, Superfast TP Long Hosel, and the FT-9 TA.
    AB TP 10.5*/ DI6X
    AB TP 3HL / 757
    XTD 19*/ Fubuki Ax
    DWS 24*/ VS Proto
    J15 CB 5-PW/ Modus 3 125S
    X-Forged MD (50*, 56* 60*)
    Spider Si/ SS Mid SLim 2.0
  • fatkidfatkid Members Posts: 164 ✭✭
    Cobra 370 Unlimited. It’s the hi/cor face.
  • theothertwotheothertwo Members Posts: 2,481 ✭✭
    kiwihacker wrote:


    I still bag my 2004 Cleveland Launcher from time to time and lose very little. My modern (2016) driver is a little more forgiving if you miss the centre of the clubface but that's about it. In 18 holes I reckon bagging the old driver costs me zero strokes.




    Cleveland Launcher, what a great driver.
    Honma TW 727 455s 10.5* Driver
    Honma TW 727 18* 5 Wood
    Honma TW 727 22* Hybrid
    Miura CB 57 4-PW Irons
    Miura Tour 2018 52 and 58 Wedges
    Wilson 8802 Milled Putter
  • scomac2002scomac2002 Inside the Starters' Hut Members Posts: 5,517 ✭✭
    Another vote for the R7 425! image/idhitit.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':idhitit:' />
    Your problem is LOFT -- Lack of friggin' talent!
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    Cobra Baffler Rail F 15.5°/20°
    TM '09 Rescue 25°
    TM Burner Plus 6-AW
    TM Z Spin 56°
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  • sleezytsleezyt Members Posts: 367 ✭✭
    Ping g15. Im sure you coukd go back even more to g10 and rapture but the g15 was just as long in a recent test for me. Hit against ts2 and g400 and m3.
  • Hit em goodHit em good Hit em good Members Posts: 2,098 ✭✭
    07 Burner TP
    Driver: 07 Burner TP
    4 wood: Ping G25
    7 wood: Ping G25
    23° hybrd:  Ping G25
    5i - pw: Mizuno MP64
    Wedges 50° / 54° / 58°: Cleveland Rotex 2.0 (2 dot , 3 dot , 2 dot)
    Putter: Ping Redwood Anser
    Ball: Titleist Pro v1x / Pro v1
    Bag: Titlest Stand Bag / 4 way top
  • DavidvDavidv Members Posts: 709 ✭✭
  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX Posts: 2,195 ClubWRX
    Mizuno MP600 Fasttrack. Sound and feel is great too. Check out the old Mark Crossfield review.
    Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
  • coopscoops Members Posts: 1,213 ✭✭
    edited Dec 19, 2018 #54
    MuskieCy wrote:


    Adams 9016D,......"Uhhhhhh,.....ball speed".


    Or 9015d as below...



    Maybe it's not really old enough to be truly old school... but it'll raise a 'how old is that' eyebrow, and ( assuming you don't suffer frm a slice ) not just keep up... but destroy any modern, adjustable doodaddded latest flavour of the month.



    I really ought to get another shaft for it... my lovely. ;-)



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  • radimanradiman Members Posts: 4,672 ✭✭
    coops wrote:

    MuskieCy wrote:


    Adams 9016D,......"Uhhhhhh,.....ball speed".


    Or 9015d as below...



    Maybe it's not really old enough to be truly old school... but it'll raise a 'how old is that' eyebrow, and ( assuming you don't suffer frm a slice ) not just keep up... but destroy any modern, adjustable doodaddded latest flavour of the month.



    I really ought to get another shaft for it... my lovely. ;-)



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    It has been so long since I have seen one of these bad boys. I forgot how deep the face on them were. It is a thing of beauty.
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    Titleist 917 F3 15* Tensei Pro Blue 70 TX
    Callaway X-Forged UT 21* w/Motore Speeder TS 8.8 X
    Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW KBS 130X
    Taylormade Spider X Navy/White 35"
    Callaway MD3 54, 60, 64
    All sitting comfortably in my Sun Mountain Sync Cart Bag
  • Double Mocha ManDouble Mocha Man Members Posts: 313
    Every year I demo 5-6 of the new drivers. I always say I'll pay up to $1000 if any of them can beat out my current driver. Every year they fail. My Taylormade Superfast Burner TP from 2010 is still in the bag and still getting me the best distance and accuracy. And i still say it's the ugliest driver ever made...
    3.0 GHIN Index - trending down
  • Double Mocha ManDouble Mocha Man Members Posts: 313
    urkslaven wrote:




    That's funny! John Daly touting the Killer Whale... easier to hit because of the large head size. All of 275 cc's!
    3.0 GHIN Index - trending down
  • theothertwotheothertwo Members Posts: 2,481 ✭✭


    Every year I demo 5-6 of the new drivers. I always say I'll pay up to $1000 if any of them can beat out my current driver. Every year they fail. My Taylormade Superfast Burner TP from 2010 is still in the bag and still getting me the best distance and accuracy. And i still say it's the ugliest driver ever made...




    No wonder that driver has retained it's value.
    Honma TW 727 455s 10.5* Driver
    Honma TW 727 18* 5 Wood
    Honma TW 727 22* Hybrid
    Miura CB 57 4-PW Irons
    Miura Tour 2018 52 and 58 Wedges
    Wilson 8802 Milled Putter
  • CsladeCslade Members Posts: 4
    As stated above, any driver engineered with any competency can get you a 1.50 smash factor when hit in the absolute dead center of gravity, As a Demo Day fitter, I occasionally come across a player that will hit something like an old Burner Driver as far as my newest. I assume it's because he has grooved his swing so that he hits it in the center consistently with it and may not with the new model. (I didn't have one of those this year where I could have seen the hit location on the updated Trackman program and I never set out to investigate it with face tape before). But, what newer clubs will do is produce higher ball speeds (higher smash factors) over a larger area of the face, that is, there is less drop off of ball speed as you move away from the center of gravity. That's the advantage for the average golfer who will miss the absolute center consistently (as well as higher MOI and adjustability to influence Launch Angles, Launch Direction, and spin rate) Remember too, hit location influences spin rates and spin axis, more so on drivers with lower MOI.



    I took my ideal target from the Glfwrx study from a couple of years ago shooting for around 12.5 Launch and 2700 cycles of spin for the average golfer with around a 95mph swing.. Since most players swing from out to in, I had a hard time trying to get them under 3500 until some of the newer models from the last 3 years. I seem to achieve those numbers routinely now.



    Two years ago when Epic came out, I went to our clubs doing the "Epic Challenge" where you hit you driver (however old) then let me tweak an Epic a bit for you and see which one was longer. I was 111-6 over the course of the Spring.
  • cmrl1986cmrl1986 Members Posts: 2,354
    I've got a friend that still puts it past me with a 905r. I've got a custom fit G400 LST so that hurts. I'm not short either with a 312 average.
    PING G400 LST 8.5 w/Fujikura Rombax Type X stiff
    Mizuno ST190 w/Tensei Blue 70 stiff
    Mizuno MP-18 MMC 3 iron w/DG 120 stiff
    Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 4-pw w/DG 120 stiff
    Titleist Vokey SM7 Blackout 50/54/62 w/s400 onyx

    **Putter Rotation**
    Bettinardi Inovai Armlock 395g
    Byron DH89 Custom Carbon Blue Oil 350g
    Piretti Tour Proto 340g
  • SandyAndy59SandyAndy59 Members Posts: 19 ✭✭
    Have to agree with the older TM models - r510TP, 07 Burner TP, and my personal favorite, the r5 Dual TP. That thing was point and shoot! I also love that any of these drivers can be had right now for less than $75. Playable golf equipment is only expensive if one demands brand new and "cutting edge" haha! (No offense to anyone who would)
    Taylormade 2017 M2 10.5 Fuji Motore Speeder VC 7.1x
    Taylormade SLDR 3 HL 16.5 Fuji Pro 73 Tour Spec x--Adams Tour 5050 14.5 Speeder 757 x
    Titleist T-Mb 3 iron Modus 125x
    Norman Signature MacCobra Blades 4-pw Modus 125x
    Callaway MD Forged 52 Modus 125x
    Callaway MD2 56 C-grind DG s400
    Callaway MD Forged 60 DG s400
    Bellum Winmore 747 Black
    Taylormade TP5/TP5X
    Sun Mountain Tour Series White/Black


    "Other" Iron Sets:
    Mizuno MS-5 (US version) Raw--Mizuno MP-14 Burnished Copper
    Taylormade 2003 RAC MB Miura--Macgregor PMB--Nicklaus Muirfield 20th
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