Help Me Choose: Vice Tour or Kirkland Signature (3-piece)

gatorman2k6gatorman2k6 Northern VirginiaPosts: 109 ✭✭

Hey everyone - as the season starts up, want to put an order in for golf balls and was wondering which one everyone recommends. Vice's ball selector chose the Tour for me, but I wasn't sure how it stacked up against the 3-piece KSig. For reference, I know people have been disappointed by the new KSigs, but after 2 rounds, I haven't noticed a huge difference - maybe a little loss in distance.

Just want to see what everyone thinks before I put in my order. Thanks for all the help!

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  • nikeblades00nikeblades00 Members Posts: 71 ✭✭
    edited Apr 15, 2019 8:36pm #2

    The Ksig 3 piece ball is hard as a rock. Depending on your skill level but why not just buy a better used ball from the many retailers. Prov, srixon xv, tmtp5 etc.i see great deals all the time on lostballs. ..... Dont know about the vice.

  • gmr04gmr04 Members Posts: 37 ✭✭

    If you aren't dead set on those two brands, i suggest the Cut Grey or Snell MTB Black.

  • Qqq123xxQqq123xx I wake up take a few steps and am in a haze the rest of the day. Members Posts: 6,205 ✭✭

    MG MasterGrip balls are solid for around $20.

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  • ZNDavisZNDavis Members Posts: 40 ✭✭

    Any specific reason you're limiting to these two? Never heard of the K3 being described as hard TBH but I agree with checking out the deals on 4A or 5A balls from one of the used sites. Golf Balls Direct has been the highest quality for me so far, I just ordered 4doz K-sigs and 4doz Tour B XS for ~85 shipped and will be set for a while.

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  • gatorman2k6gatorman2k6 Northern VirginiaPosts: 109 ✭✭

    No real reason for limiting to these two, other than price. Hadn't really thought about getting used golf balls since I've never done it in the past. Would you all say that a recycled golf balls are higher quality than these 3-piece ones? I'm an 11 handicap and have never placed much importance on what golf ball I use. Loved the old Kirkland 4-piece for performance AND price, so just trying to find something comparable to that (~$15-20/dozen). Open to any suggestions with that in mind.

  • ZNDavisZNDavis Members Posts: 40 ✭✭
    edited Apr 16, 2019 2:29am #7

    Sure thing! As long as you don't get refinished golf balls, I wouldn't shy away from the used market. You can get late-model (ie 2017-18) tour level balls like the ProV1, Chrome Soft, TP5, Tour B, etc in 5A condition, basically mint, for ~$20-25/dozen. If you wanted to get some more of the Kirkland 4 piece, you can get 4A from GBD for like $7 per dozen: https://www.golfballsdirect.com/Kirkland_Signature_Used_Golf_Balls_AAAA_p/608-gkirk12vm.htm

    I just got those delivered today and TBH they all look mostly new. Some had some marker / alignment drawn on them but pretty solid for that price.

    Edit: to answer your question, the Kirkland 3-piece is a really fine ball. Urethane cover so you'll be able to get plenty of spin around the greens. The main criticism I've seemed to see is that they even spin too much (ie tend to balloon into the wind) and are not very durable at all. If those are limiting factors for you, probably worth looking at other options. If you can live with those things, their value absolutely can't be beat.

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  • gatorman2k6gatorman2k6 Northern VirginiaPosts: 109 ✭✭

    @ZNDavis said:
    Sure thing! As long as you don't get refinished golf balls, I wouldn't shy away from the used market. You can get late-model (ie 2017-18) tour level balls like the ProV1, Chrome Soft, TP5, Tour B, etc in 5A condition, basically mint, for ~$20-25/dozen. If you wanted to get some more of the Kirkland 4 piece, you can get 4A from GBD for like $7 per dozen: https://www.golfballsdirect.com/Kirkland_Signature_Used_Golf_Balls_AAAA_p/608-gkirk12vm.htm

    I just got those delivered today and TBH they all look mostly new. Some had some marker / alignment drawn on them but pretty solid for that price.

    Edit: to answer your question, the Kirkland 3-piece is a really fine ball. Urethane cover so you'll be able to get plenty of spin around the greens. The main criticism I've seemed to see is that they even spin too much (ie tend to balloon into the wind) and are not very durable at all. If those are limiting factors for you, probably worth looking at other options. If you can live with those things, their value absolutely can't be beat.

    I really appreciate the recommendations! So it's funny you mention it, but the one thing I've noticed was that my iron shots have ballooned a lot more than when I used the 4-piece Kirklands. I think I'm going to look into trying out some of the used ones you recommended. I'm assuming these would also be better than the Wilson Duo/Titleist NXT logo overruns? Sorry for all the questions, just trying to make sure I get the right ones.

  • YrrdeadYrrdead Better Living Through Chemistry Members Posts: 1,597 ✭✭

    TP5 or TP5X for $17.50 !! If you can stand having practice stamped on your ball, you won't find a better deal imo.

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  • Munich77Munich77 Posts: 290 ✭✭
    edited Apr 16, 2019 3:46am #10

    Try the OnCore Exlicr ball - I got a free sleeve and was thoroughly impressed - if I did not have several hundred balls at home I would have bought a dozen and I may still do so.

  • gatorman2k6gatorman2k6 Northern VirginiaPosts: 109 ✭✭

    After some searching, I'm leaning towards the TP5x "Practice" balls from RBG, but I was wondering what people's thoughts were on the Titleist Pro V1 "Test" balls from lostgolfballs? Which of these two will be closer to the "normal" version of the ball? Also, if there is a ball I'm overlooking, staying in that price point ($15-20/dozen), please let me know!! Thanks again for all the help!

  • ckayckay Members Posts: 3,868 ✭✭

    You can’t beat the TP5x at that price. The KSig3 is a decent ball also.

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  • bluedotbluedot Members Posts: 3,355 ✭✭

    My only concern with the Kirkland ball would be availability. Costco makes changes all the time when something hits a particular price point; they sold Kirkland gloves for a couple of year, and they were the best I'd ever seen at that time, then they were gone, never to reappear. The difficulties getting the Kirkland ball have been legendary, and I'd be worried that at some point the factory Costco is working with changes the price and that's the end of that.

    I'm really anal about this stuff, and I believe that it doesn't so much matter which ball you play as much as it matters that you play the same ball all the time. I don't want balls labeled "practice", I don't want used golf balls, and I don't want to change brands. Vice makes a great ball; order the sample pack for $17 that has two of each ball they sell, and then go to it.

  • cgasuckscgasucks Members Posts: 2,160 ✭✭

    @gatorman2k6 said:
    Hey everyone - as the season starts up, want to put an order in for golf balls and was wondering which one everyone recommends. Vice's ball selector chose the Tour for me, but I wasn't sure how it stacked up against the 3-piece KSig. For reference, I know people have been disappointed by the new KSigs, but after 2 rounds, I haven't noticed a huge difference - maybe a little loss in distance.

    Just want to see what everyone thinks before I put in my order. Thanks for all the help!

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  • theedge27theedge27 Posts: 604 ✭✭

    For the $20 price point, I'd go with the MG-C4. Performs just like a ProV. Never had any durability issues either.

  • Lbu1fanLbu1fan Members Posts: 31 ✭✭

    I ordered the Vice Pro+ and played with it Monday at TPC Snoqualamie ridge. It held up really well, cur through the wind and I was able to generate lots of spin

  • soregongolfersoregongolfer Members Posts: 1,275 ✭✭

    Kirkland's three piece is hard as a rock? Be honest, you've never even seen the ball let alone hit it.

  • YrrdeadYrrdead Better Living Through Chemistry Members Posts: 1,597 ✭✭
    edited Apr 17, 2019 8:59am #18

    @gatorman2k6 said:
    After some searching, I'm leaning towards the TP5x "Practice" balls from RBG, but I was wondering what people's thoughts were on the Titleist Pro V1 "Test" balls from lostgolfballs? Which of these two will be closer to the "normal" version of the ball? Also, if there is a ball I'm overlooking, staying in that price point ($15-20/dozen), please let me know!! Thanks again for all the help!

    All the practice balls are brand new balls that are no different than other balls. They make huge batches with the practice stamp for high end ranges and tour events. I've been playing them for years. I'm finally almost out of all the lethal practice balls and am going to transition to tp5.

    Can't comment on the pro v test as I've never looked into them or played them.

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  • gatorman2k6gatorman2k6 Northern VirginiaPosts: 109 ✭✭

    Thank you all for the responses! It came down to the TP5x practice balls and the MG C4 and I ended up going with the C4. I'll be sure to report back once I've tried them. Thanks again for all the help!

  • trackcoach13trackcoach13 Members Posts: 918 ✭✭

    @soregongolfer said:
    Kirkland's three piece is hard as a rock? Be honest, you've never even seen the ball let alone hit it.

    Exactly what I was thinking.

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  • arbeckarbeck SeattlePosts: 344 ✭✭

    @soregongolfer said:
    Kirkland's three piece is hard as a rock? Be honest, you've never even seen the ball let alone hit it.

    I'd never call it hard as a rock, but I find it and the Cut Blue to be much harder than I prefer. It's more along the lines of a Z Star XV. The covers are really soft, but the overall compression is still pretty high. If you have a slower swing speed and are used to something softer, it's going to feel really hard.

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  • trackcoach13trackcoach13 Members Posts: 918 ✭✭
    edited Apr 17, 2019 9:42pm #22

    @arbeck said:

    @soregongolfer said:
    Kirkland's three piece is hard as a rock? Be honest, you've never even seen the ball let alone hit it.

    I'd never call it hard as a rock, but I find it and the Cut Blue to be much harder than I prefer. It's more along the lines of a Z Star XV. The covers are really soft, but the overall compression is still pretty high. If you have a slower swing speed and are used to something softer, it's going to feel really hard.

    The K3 is a lower compression than both the Z-Star XV and the Cut Blue. To me it is similar to a Pro V1 in compression. It is definitely not a lower compression ball like AVX, Q-Star Tour, Wilson Duo Professional, etc.

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  • arbeckarbeck SeattlePosts: 344 ✭✭

    @trackcoach13 said:

    @arbeck said:

    @soregongolfer said:
    Kirkland's three piece is hard as a rock? Be honest, you've never even seen the ball let alone hit it.

    I'd never call it hard as a rock, but I find it and the Cut Blue to be much harder than I prefer. It's more along the lines of a Z Star XV. The covers are really soft, but the overall compression is still pretty high. If you have a slower swing speed and are used to something softer, it's going to feel really hard.

    The K3 is a lower compression than both the Z-Star XV and the Cut Blue. To me it is similar to a Pro V1 in compression. It is definitely not a lower compression ball like AVX, Q-Star Tour, Wilson Duo Professional, etc.

    The K3 feels harder to me than a Pro V1 (but mainly off the putter and chipping). It's probably not as hard as the XV or the Cut, but it's closer to a Pro V1x and the other X balls.

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  • trackcoach13trackcoach13 Members Posts: 918 ✭✭

    @arbeck said:

    @trackcoach13 said:

    @arbeck said:

    @soregongolfer said:
    Kirkland's three piece is hard as a rock? Be honest, you've never even seen the ball let alone hit it.

    I'd never call it hard as a rock, but I find it and the Cut Blue to be much harder than I prefer. It's more along the lines of a Z Star XV. The covers are really soft, but the overall compression is still pretty high. If you have a slower swing speed and are used to something softer, it's going to feel really hard.

    The K3 is a lower compression than both the Z-Star XV and the Cut Blue. To me it is similar to a Pro V1 in compression. It is definitely not a lower compression ball like AVX, Q-Star Tour, Wilson Duo Professional, etc.

    The K3 feels harder to me than a Pro V1 (but mainly off the putter and chipping). It's probably not as hard as the XV or the Cut, but it's closer to a Pro V1x and the other X balls.

    What you feel when putting and chipping is the cover/mantle layer. The hard mantle layer on the K3 is also why it spins so much on short/mid iron shots. When I evaluate a golf balls feel I use the driver which reflects the compression of the ball.

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  • dcfasdcfas Tempus Fugit Posts: 857 ✭✭

    I like the Vice. Also like the Snell. Good performance all around, long ball and short.

  • arbeckarbeck SeattlePosts: 344 ✭✭

    @trackcoach13 said:

    @arbeck said:

    @trackcoach13 said:

    @arbeck said:

    @soregongolfer said:
    Kirkland's three piece is hard as a rock? Be honest, you've never even seen the ball let alone hit it.

    I'd never call it hard as a rock, but I find it and the Cut Blue to be much harder than I prefer. It's more along the lines of a Z Star XV. The covers are really soft, but the overall compression is still pretty high. If you have a slower swing speed and are used to something softer, it's going to feel really hard.

    The K3 is a lower compression than both the Z-Star XV and the Cut Blue. To me it is similar to a Pro V1 in compression. It is definitely not a lower compression ball like AVX, Q-Star Tour, Wilson Duo Professional, etc.

    The K3 feels harder to me than a Pro V1 (but mainly off the putter and chipping). It's probably not as hard as the XV or the Cut, but it's closer to a Pro V1x and the other X balls.

    What you feel when putting and chipping is the cover/mantle layer. The hard mantle layer on the K3 is also why it spins so much on short/mid iron shots. When I evaluate a golf balls feel I use the driver which reflects the compression of the ball.

    Unless the ball is super hard, they all feel about the same off the driver to me.

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  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members Posts: 18,190 ✭✭

    There is no reason to limit yourself to just one ball unless your ball striking is more consistent than the performance range of the typical tour ball, which is quite small. I've got about 20 dozen balls in the cabinet, none of which I paid more than $20/dozen for, and frankly I use them interchangeably depending on mood. My favorite is the Z Star, but I also play and like the Duo U, B330 RX, Kirkland 3 piece, and Maxfli U6 toursoft. The K3 is in the same firmness range as the others balls mentioned, other than the Duo U which is a marshmallow. I think it's slightly inferior in terms of feel but the performance is fine. At any rate, keep your eyes open and you will find lots of deals on good urethane tour balls at the $20/dozen price point.

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  • trackcoach13trackcoach13 Members Posts: 918 ✭✭

    @arbeck said:

    @trackcoach13 said:

    @arbeck said:

    @trackcoach13 said:

    @arbeck said:

    @soregongolfer said:
    Kirkland's three piece is hard as a rock? Be honest, you've never even seen the ball let alone hit it.

    I'd never call it hard as a rock, but I find it and the Cut Blue to be much harder than I prefer. It's more along the lines of a Z Star XV. The covers are really soft, but the overall compression is still pretty high. If you have a slower swing speed and are used to something softer, it's going to feel really hard.

    The K3 is a lower compression than both the Z-Star XV and the Cut Blue. To me it is similar to a Pro V1 in compression. It is definitely not a lower compression ball like AVX, Q-Star Tour, Wilson Duo Professional, etc.

    The K3 feels harder to me than a Pro V1 (but mainly off the putter and chipping). It's probably not as hard as the XV or the Cut, but it's closer to a Pro V1x and the other X balls.

    What you feel when putting and chipping is the cover/mantle layer. The hard mantle layer on the K3 is also why it spins so much on short/mid iron shots. When I evaluate a golf balls feel I use the driver which reflects the compression of the ball.

    Unless the ball is super hard, they all feel about the same off the driver to me.

    That is a ridiculous statement.

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  • GSDriverGSDriver Members Posts: 576 ✭✭

    I played a K-Sig I got from a friend, didn't like it nearly as much as Vice Pro.

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  • soregongolfersoregongolfer Members Posts: 1,275 ✭✭

    @arbeck said:

    @soregongolfer said:
    Kirkland's three piece is hard as a rock? Be honest, you've never even seen the ball let alone hit it.

    I'd never call it hard as a rock, but I find it and the Cut Blue to be much harder than I prefer. It's more along the lines of a Z Star XV. The covers are really soft, but the overall compression is still pretty high. If you have a slower swing speed and are used to something softer, it's going to feel really hard.

    I can't agree. The XV is my primary ball and it's much harder IMHO than the K3, but I'm a WRXer with amazing clubhead speed ;)

  • vietnameehvietnameeh HIT BALL FAR NOT BALL STRAIGHT Members Posts: 1,862 ✭✭
    edited Apr 19, 2019 3:35pm #31

    K3 is hard to beat price wise...
    I play Prov1x and Tp5X.... but use the K3s for casual rounds (cause I am cheap)
    Ive played the Vice Tour, Pro plus..... great balls! but not enough to warrant me to switch over a k3 (due to price)

    Summary: K3 cause it's just affordable and you aren't losing much (they do spin a bit more for me on long shots, only worried about it on real windy days though)

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