Budget driver

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IvyguyIvyguy  1609WRX Points: 261Members Posts: 1,609 Platinum Tees
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Hey yall!

I have been hitting the 17 M2 and cobra f8 (and +) with similar results. I am not a fan of driver being the most expensive stick in the bag.

I can get a good deal on either, which would you go with?

Very general, sure, but being fitted into a low spin driver has been disastrous. I had great luck with my G15 before going into a TS3...

What say you?

Thanks in advance.

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  • swing thoughtsswing thoughts  280WRX Points: 79Handicap: 2.7Members Posts: 280 Greens
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    Go with what you like best. They are both great clubs and I've owned both. My personal preference is the cobra, I loved that club but eventually settled on a g400. For me the cobra is prettier, better feel and sound, and more forgiving. The M2 was a little longer. Also, someone is blowing out m3's on ebay and has been for a few weeks. They're going for at or less than $200 per auction. The M3 can be adjusted to where it is the same club as the M4.

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    Ping G SL Tec 9* XS
    Callaway XR 15* R

    Cobra Bio Cell Fairway 18.5 S
    Titleist 816 H1 21* S
    Nike Vapor Pro 4-9 S <or> Mizuno MP 69 4-9

    Vokey SM6[background=transparent] 48* 10 S[/background]
    [background=transparent]Taylormade Tour Preferred EF 52* 10 S[/background]
    Taylormade Tour Preferred EF 58* ATV S

    Odyssey Versa #7 35"
    Taylormade Daddy Long Legs 38"
    [background=transparent]Scotty Futura X5 38"[/background]
    [background=transparent]Callaway Bobby Jones blade 35"[/background]
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  • MyherobobhopeMyherobobhope hey there, blimpy boy. Flying through the sky so fancy free.  2607WRX Points: 485Members Posts: 2,607 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Ivyguy said:

    Hey yall!

    I have been hitting the 17 M2 and cobra f8 (and +) with similar results. I am not a fan of driver being the most expensive stick in the bag.

    I can get a good deal on either, which would you go with?

    Very general, sure, but being fitted into a low spin driver has been disastrous. I had great luck with my G15 before going into a TS3...

    What say you?

    Thanks in advance.

    My spending mentality overall is to spend where it makes sense, and make sure big purchases are well fit to yo... For instance, I took a flyer on a $50 hybrid because I won't hit it that often and as long as it works decently, I can ignore that gap until I have everything else in my bag settled.
    On the driver front, I'm going to get fit and find whatever works best for me and then plan on keeping it for 5 years. If I can do that cheap with last years model, great... if it requires a new model and a custom shaft... it sucks, but at least I'll have what I want for a little bit.
    I've made the mistake of spending $150 on three different drivers... I wish I had just spent $600 on one. Just make sure whatever you buy will stay in your bag for awhile and everything will be good.

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    Current Bag (Rebuilding as of 5/6/19)
    Driver: Adams Fast 12 LS with Matrix Black Tie (to be replaced)
    3W: Adams Fast 12 with Excalibur (to be replaced)
    Hybrid: Bridgestone j40 with Excalibur (to be replaced)
    4-9: Taylor Made Oversize (to be replaced)
    PW: Mizuon HMP with DG120 Stiff (5/6)
    50 degree Vokey with DG120 Stiff (5/6)
    56 and 60 degree Cleveland Wedges (to be replaced)
    Odyssey Tank #7 (only club I'm keeping this season)

  • IvyguyIvyguy  1609WRX Points: 261Members Posts: 1,609 Platinum Tees
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    Totally agree about making a good purchase...

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  • MyherobobhopeMyherobobhope hey there, blimpy boy. Flying through the sky so fancy free.  2607WRX Points: 485Members Posts: 2,607 Titanium Tees
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    Ha! I’m now shopping last years models... callaway rogue sub zero might be a new toy

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    Current Bag (Rebuilding as of 5/6/19)
    Driver: Adams Fast 12 LS with Matrix Black Tie (to be replaced)
    3W: Adams Fast 12 with Excalibur (to be replaced)
    Hybrid: Bridgestone j40 with Excalibur (to be replaced)
    4-9: Taylor Made Oversize (to be replaced)
    PW: Mizuon HMP with DG120 Stiff (5/6)
    50 degree Vokey with DG120 Stiff (5/6)
    56 and 60 degree Cleveland Wedges (to be replaced)
    Odyssey Tank #7 (only club I'm keeping this season)

  • giogolfgiogolf Giogolf  1323WRX Points: 182Members Posts: 1,323 Platinum Tees
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    Budget is subjective.. whats your price range? $100-150, $$200-250 etc... Tons of options in those categories.. My last 3 drivers were all budget for me (sub $200) and still within the 2018 model year M4, F8+ and 400 LST.. All of which are great drivers still found on Tour.. I guess pick a price point and search.. but you cant really go wrong with anything in the last 3 years

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  • Exactice808Exactice808 Just want to hit ball far and go find it...  4814WRX Points: 410Handicap: 7-27Members Posts: 4,814 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Ivyguy said:

    Hey yall!

    I have been hitting the 17 M2 and cobra f8 (and +) with similar results. I am not a fan of driver being the most expensive stick in the bag.

    I can get a good deal on either, which would you go with?

    Very general, sure, but being fitted into a low spin driver has been disastrous. I had great luck with my G15 before going into a TS3...

    What say you?

    Thanks in advance.

    Without knowing ANYTHING about how you swing a club. PURELY on the word "Budget" No other talk about, hitting it straight, hitting it far etc.
    To me Most underrated driver, offered to the masses and could be potentially played by the greater general public.

    TM Jetspeed driver. to me this was the most updated version of the 07 burner.... Forgiving, hot enough balanced club good enough and CCCHEEEAAPP!!!!

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=taylormade+jetspeed+driver&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=1&_sop=15&_oac=1

    Ebay got plenty of them.... super underrated....

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    Titleist 915D3 
    TM M2v1 - 
    TM 18* M2 
    TM TP MC 4 & 5 PX 6.0 Rifles
    Cobra AMP Cell Pro 6-PW PX 6.0 Rifles
    Titleist SM5 Vokey50*/8*, 54*/10* & 58*/8* X100's
    Scotty Newport 2 33"
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  • Bobb3rdownBobb3rdown Bothell, WA 726WRX Points: 192Members Posts: 726 Golden Tee
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    910,913 d3 can be had at a great price. I keep going back to my 910 after searching for a better driver over the last year

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    mizuno st190 9.5
    Callaway rouge sub zero 15
    Adams pro mini 20
    Bridgestone tour b x-cb 4-pw 
    Vokey sm7 50.12, sm7 56.10, sm6 62.08
    Maltby ptm-4
    2018 Players 5 stand bag
    Srixon Z Star xv
  • tbsbamatbsbama  62WRX Points: 21Members Posts: 62 Bunkers
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    Cobra King LTD is a wonderful driver. The pro model has lofts from 7 to 10 with fade settings. The regular from 9 to 12 with draw settings. Both heads are absolute bombers and can be found pretty cheap. Best driver I have hit in several years.

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  • artsmart73artsmart73 the art of golf  878WRX Points: 85Handicap: 8.7Members Posts: 878 Golden Tee
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    Titlist 910, 907 d2, TM R9 Tri, TM Burner...

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    910 D2 9.5*/910 FD 15*/915 18*
    712 4I
    MP 30 5I
    MP 57 6I
    MP 58 7I-8I
    MP 15 9I
    Vokey 46F/52F/56M/60M
    AOP NP 2 (BOS 2x oil can)
    Chrome soft

  • PaintmanPaintman  74WRX Points: 40Handicap: 15Members Posts: 74 Bunkers
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    Cobra Fly-Z +. Get the green one. It goes straighter.
    I bought this 3 years ago and it was one year old technology. The shaft is a little long so choking up was necessary. That turned out to be a good thing because I slowed my tempo a bit and tried to hit the ball in the center of the face. Buy some sort of magic, the ball went just as far and a lot straighter. 250 carry, roll out depends on rain.
    Just as an aside, I found it when you open up yourself to consider older or used equipment, there are more choices to find out what really fits your game. In the big picture ,tinkering may not save a lot of money but it sure is fun.

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  • vadersfathervadersfather  15WRX Points: 23Members Posts: 15 Bunkers
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    I have to 2nd the jetspeed. Imo its the holy grail of most underrated driver ever. Long, super forgiving and just d a m n fun to hit!

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  • zzyzxx33zzyzxx33  1166WRX Points: 150Members Posts: 1,166 Platinum Tees
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    I won a Tour Edge EXS Driver and it has been Awesome! Great Price, Look, Sound and Results! It's longer than anything else I've hit.

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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  8938WRX Points: 1,212Members Posts: 8,938 Titanium Tees
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    Budget = ??

    <$100 - Cobra Fly z/Bio Cell
    <$200 2016 M2 or GBB Epic
    <$300 Probably still these above plus if you could find, G400 MAX

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    D - Epic SZ | Tour Z Xtreme 465
    3w - '16 Tour Issue M1 (16.5*) | Diamana B 70
    5w - '17 M1 | Tensei Pro Blue 70
    4h - 818H1 | Tensei Pro White 90
    Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120
    GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue
    SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue
    LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue
    P - Custom EVNROLL ER5
    Ball - Bridgestone BXS



  • IvyguyIvyguy  1609WRX Points: 261Members Posts: 1,609 Platinum Tees
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    I'm looking at under 300.

    Thanks for the input guys/gals!!!!

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  • BottleCapBottleCap  1494WRX Points: 249Members Posts: 1,494 Platinum Tees
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    The Taylormade M2

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    Taylormade M5 Mitsubishi Kuro Kage XD 70 S
    Titleist 917 F3 GD TourAD IZ 8S
    Mizuno MP 69 3-PW DG S400
    Vokey SM7 54S and 60M
    Cameron Newport 2 CT
    Bridgestone Tour B XS
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    On -, @BottleCap said:

    The Taylormade M2

    x2

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  • boggymanboggyman  2847WRX Points: 293Members Posts: 2,847 Titanium Tees
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    I can attest to your post. Had a F8+ that was an anniversary gift from work I chose, custom built through Cobra and was playing great then hit an m6, mistake #1. Then won a big pot on the PGA and chose a m5 tour and have lost it all on the tee with driver. Got an old g15 myself that never let me down. Probably going back to my F8+ though.

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  • Exactice808Exactice808 Just want to hit ball far and go find it...  4814WRX Points: 410Handicap: 7-27Members Posts: 4,814 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Ivyguy said:

    I'm looking at under 300.

    Thanks for the input guys/gals!!!!

    Under $300 LOL! Dude you just gotta wait about 3 weeks after the first release..... and the Demo's and returns start to come in. most $499 drivers get put in the used bin at $299. The prior Season stuff I see all at $199. IM STILL too cheap at $199 and just wait..... I got a play around Cobra Fly Z driver for $79.00

    Just waiting for some of the Cobra Kings to hit those numbers and I am going to grab one for the heck of it......

    Lord knows what the original M1 &M2's are selling for... LOL!

    Man when you say budget... $300 is scary...... that $300 would buy my whole bag of irons HAHAHAAHAHA!!!

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    Titleist 915D3 
    TM M2v1 - 
    TM 18* M2 
    TM TP MC 4 & 5 PX 6.0 Rifles
    Cobra AMP Cell Pro 6-PW PX 6.0 Rifles
    Titleist SM5 Vokey50*/8*, 54*/10* & 58*/8* X100's
    Scotty Newport 2 33"
  • AG12AG12  1788WRX Points: 916Handicap: 10Members Posts: 1,788 Platinum Tees
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    I would say the regular PING G400...you can get new for $300 on PGA SS website, '17 M2 is a good choice and the M4 can be had at under $300 used in most shops.

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    Driver: Titleist TS2 9.5* Tensei Pro White 60
    3W: Titleist TS2 15* Tensei Pro White 70
    5W: PING G410 18* Tour 75
    4HY: Titleist 818H2 21* Atmos HB Tour Spec Blue 8
    Irons: PING G410 5-UW Project X LZ 120
    Wedges: Titleist SM7 54.14F/60.10M DG S200 
    Putter: Bettinardi BB1F Blackout Limited Run
    Ball: Titleist ProV1x #27
    WITB
  • Other BarryOther Barry I'm not a cow, I'm a pickle, when I feel like it  345WRX Points: 59Handicap: 8.8Members Posts: 345 Greens
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    that F8 is a fairway finder!!!! For me it wasn't as long as my TM but i found more fairways with it and it wasn't exactly a slouch off the tee

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    TaylorMade M5
    TaylorMade 4 Hybrid
    Srixon Z765 4-PW
    TaylorMade MG Wedges 50, 56, 60
    Scotty Newport 2.5
    TaylorMade TP5X
  • BadshaftBadshaft  145WRX Points: 84Members Posts: 145 Fairways
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    I have the F8+ and bought the extra weights off of Ebay (inexpensive, shipped from China)- 12g front 7g back- Blue Tensei 70g stiff
    Longest for me - straight and as accurate as anything. Nice well balanced combo-
    Looks to me it has the same moveable weight strategy as the F9

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  • IvyguyIvyguy  1609WRX Points: 261Members Posts: 1,609 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @Exactice808 said:

    On -, @Ivyguy said:

    I'm looking at under 300.

    Thanks for the input guys/gals!!!!

    Under $300 LOL! Dude you just gotta wait about 3 weeks after the first release..... and the Demo's and returns start to come in. most $499 drivers get put in the used bin at $299. The prior Season stuff I see all at $199. IM STILL too cheap at $199 and just wait..... I got a play around Cobra Fly Z driver for $79.00

    Just waiting for some of the Cobra Kings to hit those numbers and I am going to grab one for the heck of it......

    Lord knows what the original M1 &M2's are selling for... LOL!

    Man when you say budget... $300 is scary...... that $300 would buy my whole bag of irons HAHAHAAHAHA!!!

    Lol, man I have been saving for a bit. I'm a penny pincher.

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  • Nixhex524Nixhex524  4596WRX Points: 429Handicap: 2.5ClubWRX Posts: 4,596 ClubWRX
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    Love my '17 M2. I have been through many drivers over the past couple of years, trying just about anything I could. I was never a fan of the '16 M2, just didn't feel forgiving enough so I stayed away from the '17 until I started playing with a guy who bags it and just hit it straight almost every time. I decided to give it a go, and I find it WAY more forgiving than the '16 M2 and no slouch in the distance category. I really have to put a bad swing on this thing to lose it... fantastic driver, firmly planted in the bag. I highly recommend it.

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    Ping G410 LST 9* Tensei orange 60x
    Ping G400 14.5 Tour 75s
    Mizuno MP H4 3i Aldila NVS HYB 85s
    Bridgestone J15 CB X100 AMT SS1x 4-P
    Titleist Vokey SM5 50.12, SM6 58.12
    Lajosi Sensor 34"

  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Minnesota, USA 7003WRX Points: 1,048Handicap: 7Members Posts: 7,003 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Nixhex524 said:

    Love my '17 M2. I have been through many drivers over the past couple of years, trying just about anything I could. I was never a fan of the '16 M2, just didn't feel forgiving enough so I stayed away from the '17 until I started playing with a guy who bags it and just hit it straight almost every time. I decided to give it a go, and I find it WAY more forgiving than the '16 M2 and no slouch in the distance category. I really have to put a bad swing on this thing to lose it... fantastic driver, firmly planted in the bag. I highly recommend it.

    Your post made me wonder at the actual measured differences between the two models. Fortunately, the site which shall not be named has the relevant data for these two models. Let's take a look. :)

    2016 M2 - 2.1mm above the neutral axis, MOI of 4601
    2017 M2 - 4.0mm above the neutral axis, MOI of 4746

    The difference in MOI, 145 gm-cm², is small enough that I'd call it negligible. Which suggests there were other factors involved in your personal experience. The CG being almost 2 mm higher suggests it's possible you may just prefer a higher CG in your driver?

    the other glaringly obvious possibility is the shaft. Perhaps the shaft in the 17 fits you perfectly, while the one in the 16 was not? Not just flex, but possibly also weight, or even the length of the club? Or did you have the exact same shaft in each?

    Couple random thoughts while sifting thru Monday morning emails. :)

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    The Ever Changing Bag!

    Driver: Orlimar persimmon, Dynamic S, 43.25"
    3w:  Orlimar persimmon, Dynamic S, 42.25"
    2i:  Mizuno Pro, DGS300
    3-PW:  Mizuno MP-37, DGS300
    GW:  Dynacraft forged 52*, DGS400
    SW:  Wilson Staff PMP 58*
    Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 35"
    Balls: in no particular order... Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Urethane/Professional, or 50 Elite, Srixon ZStar, Snell MTB Black, Vice Pro Lime... will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time

    Sometimes carry 1-SW Golden Ram Tour Grinds w/Dynamic S or 1-SW Golden Ram TW282, Precision 6.5
    On occasion, Ram 1i or Mizuno 2i replaced with Orlimar persimmon 4w, Dynamic S

    Driver Substitutes: Golden Ram TW801, TW802, or TW805
  • MyherobobhopeMyherobobhope hey there, blimpy boy. Flying through the sky so fancy free.  2607WRX Points: 485Members Posts: 2,607 Titanium Tees
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    My golf Thai?

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    Current Bag (Rebuilding as of 5/6/19)
    Driver: Adams Fast 12 LS with Matrix Black Tie (to be replaced)
    3W: Adams Fast 12 with Excalibur (to be replaced)
    Hybrid: Bridgestone j40 with Excalibur (to be replaced)
    4-9: Taylor Made Oversize (to be replaced)
    PW: Mizuon HMP with DG120 Stiff (5/6)
    50 degree Vokey with DG120 Stiff (5/6)
    56 and 60 degree Cleveland Wedges (to be replaced)
    Odyssey Tank #7 (only club I'm keeping this season)

  • MyherobobhopeMyherobobhope hey there, blimpy boy. Flying through the sky so fancy free.  2607WRX Points: 485Members Posts: 2,607 Titanium Tees
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    I’ve been rolling this concept in my mind a lot... the question becomes how do you find the right fit with used equipment and then acquire it... do you settle for good, while hoping for great?

    I’m honestly not sure... I am hoping to hit the rogue sub Zero today and see if I like the feel... I can get a used one for under $200 with decent shaft options directly from callaway.

    If I don’t like it, I’m sure what my next steps will be.

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    Current Bag (Rebuilding as of 5/6/19)
    Driver: Adams Fast 12 LS with Matrix Black Tie (to be replaced)
    3W: Adams Fast 12 with Excalibur (to be replaced)
    Hybrid: Bridgestone j40 with Excalibur (to be replaced)
    4-9: Taylor Made Oversize (to be replaced)
    PW: Mizuon HMP with DG120 Stiff (5/6)
    50 degree Vokey with DG120 Stiff (5/6)
    56 and 60 degree Cleveland Wedges (to be replaced)
    Odyssey Tank #7 (only club I'm keeping this season)

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  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Minnesota, USA 7003WRX Points: 1,048Handicap: 7Members Posts: 7,003 Titanium Tees
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    If you live near a 2nd Swing location, or a golf retailer that deals in used equipment and has launch monitors available, it's pretty straightforward. You can try various equipment and buy the exact stick that suits you.

    Failing that, it's a lot of trial and error. As an example, you can buy something in the WRX BST, if you don't like it, you can list it again in BST and would be out relatively little money. Going this route can be a bit more random. It's not necessarily ineffective, but it can take more time than a fitting based search.

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    The Ever Changing Bag!

    Driver: Orlimar persimmon, Dynamic S, 43.25"
    3w:  Orlimar persimmon, Dynamic S, 42.25"
    2i:  Mizuno Pro, DGS300
    3-PW:  Mizuno MP-37, DGS300
    GW:  Dynacraft forged 52*, DGS400
    SW:  Wilson Staff PMP 58*
    Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 35"
    Balls: in no particular order... Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Urethane/Professional, or 50 Elite, Srixon ZStar, Snell MTB Black, Vice Pro Lime... will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time

    Sometimes carry 1-SW Golden Ram Tour Grinds w/Dynamic S or 1-SW Golden Ram TW282, Precision 6.5
    On occasion, Ram 1i or Mizuno 2i replaced with Orlimar persimmon 4w, Dynamic S

    Driver Substitutes: Golden Ram TW801, TW802, or TW805
  • vibgyor1111vibgyor1111  68WRX Points: 50Members Posts: 68 Bunkers
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    On -, @tbsbama said:

    Cobra King LTD is a wonderful driver. The pro model has lofts from 7 to 10 with fade settings. The regular from 9 to 12 with draw settings. Both heads are absolute bombers and can be found pretty cheap. Best driver I have hit in several years.

    These are on eBay now for just over $100. I've been tempted, but gonna try to make it through this season with the handed down rbz. See what happens to the prices coming into winter.

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  • PixlPutterman PixlPutterman Look At My Lefty J33R(hey I can wish)  8386WRX Points: 268Handicap: 6Members Posts: 8,386 Titanium Tees
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    There are very few drivers you can get away with "recommending" with out knowing anything about the swing.......but the 2016 M2 is one of them

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    Matte Siver Tour SLDR 9.5° (set to 8.5°) - HC EvenFlow Black 75x 
    Mizuno MP Fli Hi 18° - C Taper 125
    Mizuno MP Fli Hi 23° - C Taper 120
    Wilson Staff FG62 - S300
    TM Milled Grind 52° - HiToe 56°/62°
    Edel E-3 - P2 Classic Grip
    2016 RZN Platinum (15 dozen in the garage)
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  • B-NadsB-Nads  339WRX Points: 90Members Posts: 339 Greens
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    I agree - the original M2, XR16 Pro, and Ping LS Tecs are great budget priced drivers for anyone looking at low spin heads. I just got a mint condition 2017 M1 with a Graphite Design AD Tour Turbo in it for $150 Canadian. It has gone from a "why not" purchase to the #1 slot in the bag. I had the F8+ - great driver as well. Any of the other drivers will hit the same distances and split the fairways as easily if you lop an inch off the shaft.

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    In the C130:
    Driver - 2017 Taylormade M1
    3 wood - 2016 Taylormade M1
    Hybrid - Taylormade M4 19*
    Irons - Nike Vapor Pro Combo 4i-GW
    Wedges - Callaway MD3 56* / PM Grind 60*
    Putter - Odyssey Versa #7
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