TaylorMade M5 cracking already ???

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What do you make of this ???

Sole plate cracking already and no they didn’t slam it down !!!

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  • liongolf_ikeliongolf_ike  646WRX Points: 98Members Posts: 646 Golden Tee
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    based on the huge white mark, it was definitely hit on something. Just my 2 cents.



    also, where did this person get this head since they have not been released yet? Possible that it is counterfeit.
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  • Joker91Joker91 Westminster, CO 572WRX Points: 279Handicap: 8.8Members Posts: 572 Golden Tee
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    Yeah that hit something
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    M6 doesn’t have a sliding track.
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    Jon Rahms driver from Torrey?
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    There is multiple reports of drivers cracking and TaylorMade is reportedly aware of the problem which is caused by a bad batch of carbon fiber according to our local GG !!!
    It's not bad carbon fiber, it's a bad design. You have a overlapping piece of carbon on the bottom of the club right in the spot where the tee would strike. I have a demo at the store where I work and it only took about 6 balls to see this is going to be a problem.
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  • budcangolfbudcangolf  483WRX Points: 161Members Posts: 483 Greens
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    There’s already been reports of this issue, hopefully they fix it before release but dk how they will.
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    budcangolf wrote:


    There's already been reports of this issue, hopefully they fix it before release but dk how they will.
    they haven't fixed anything. The store I work at already has our product for this Friday release and they still have that overlapping piece of carbon. Looks like a lot of RTV's coming TM way.
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    Got these pictures off a post on Golf Teaching Professionals Facebook page





    Also this was some of the posts about it

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    budcangolf wrote:


    There’s already been reports of this issue, hopefully they fix it before release but dk how they will.




    There was one other. It was hit on the toe.



    So, fir those keeping track... 2 reports. Both due to people hitting them on things. This one looks fake. 6 doesn’t have a track.
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  • sbjinxsbjinx Orange County 2530WRX Points: 236Members Posts: 2,530 Titanium Tees
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    I can see this being an issue. Especially the piece of carbon fiber covering the weight towards the front of the club (you can see it in the last picture). Sucks because it’s a great driver.
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  • tbone18tbone18 COLUMBUS, OHIO 588WRX Points: 114Members Posts: 588 Golden Tee
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    bogeypro wrote:

    budcangolf wrote:


    There's already been reports of this issue, hopefully they fix it before release but dk how they will.




    There was one other. It was hit on the toe.



    So, fir those keeping track... 2 reports. Both due to people hitting them on things. This one looks fake. 6 doesn't have a track.
    all pic are of a m5. there is no m6 and its not fake.
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    How embarrassing for TM.
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    bogeypro wrote:

    budcangolf wrote:


    There’s already been reports of this issue, hopefully they fix it before release but dk how they will.




    There was one other. It was hit on the toe.



    So, fir those keeping track... 2 reports. Both due to people hitting them on things. This one looks fake. 6 doesn’t have a track.



    bogeypro wrote:

    budcangolf wrote:


    There’s already been reports of this issue, hopefully they fix it before release but dk how they will.




    There was one other. It was hit on the toe.



    So, fir those keeping track... 2 reports. Both due to people hitting them on things. This one looks fake. 6 doesn’t have a track.




    Not a fake according to the Facebook poster

    He said it was cause by hard plastic tees
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    So all demos at club shops will break?
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    ago33 wrote:


    So all demos at club shops will break?
    as long as they are using hard plastic tees you will most likely see this happening.
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OH 7270WRX Points: 577Handicap: 1.8Members Posts: 7,270 Titanium Tees
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    Oh boy! Here we go again!! Like the slotted face bending disaster.



    This could get ugly.
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    What are fiberbuilt tees?
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  • liongolf_ikeliongolf_ike  646WRX Points: 98Members Posts: 646 Golden Tee
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    Regular tees wouldnt do this. Looks like IF it is because of the tees, it is the large tees in mats. But still skeptical.



    The plight of the 30 handicaper bottoming out on a mat and blaming the tee.
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    That's brilliant - oh no that's because you used the wrong tees...
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    ZBigStick wrote:


    What are fiberbuilt tees?




    These:



    https://shopindoorgolf.com/products/2-adjustable-tee-system-5-pack



    They are a hard plastic tee inside a rubber sleeve. It adjusts up and down. Very popular but I can definitely see how it could smash that thin piece of carbon fiber as it rebounds after impact with the face.
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    So the recoil of a tee can break the carbon sole pieces. Not sure I buy this theory. The tee should bend in the direction of the clubhead’s direction of travel not launch upwards like a spike. But in the fraction of a second that the clubhead is passing over the tee knocking the tee forwards, the tee is wreaking havoc on the carbon pieces. Nah, can’t get my head around that claim. The drivers pictured look like they’ve been abused.
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    noodle3872 wrote:


    So the recoil of a tee can break the carbon sole pieces. Not sure I buy this theory. The tee should bend in the direction of the clubhead’s direction of travel not launch upwards like a spike. But in the fraction of a second that the clubhead is passing over the tee knocking the tee forwards, the tee is wreaking havoc on the carbon pieces. Nah, can’t get my head around that claim. The drivers pictured look like they’ve been abused.




    Did you look at the picture of the tee in question? It’s certainly possible.



    https://shopindoorgolf.com/products/2-adjustable-tee-system-5-pack

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    There’s a PGA Superstore in my area where they just let people hit balls willy nilly without assistance or supervision. I’m surprised stuff like this doesn’t pop up more often with the kind of abuse those demo drivers are put through at those stores. I don’t see this being that big a problem for TM but it might change the way the retailers let their customers demo their product. Or it might change what tees they decide to use in those hitting booths. M5 is a good driver. I doubt this will stop very many people from buying one but it most likely be a pain in the a** for the retailers.
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    noodle3872 wrote:


    So the recoil of a tee can break the carbon sole pieces. Not sure I buy this theory. The tee should bend in the direction of the clubhead’s direction of travel not launch upwards like a spike. But in the fraction of a second that the clubhead is passing over the tee knocking the tee forwards, the tee is wreaking havoc on the carbon pieces. Nah, can’t get my head around that claim. The drivers pictured look like they’ve been abused.




    Did you look at the picture of the tee in question? It’s certainly possible.



    https://shopindoorgolf.com/products/2-adjustable-tee-system-5-pack




    Yes, I checked the link and have been to a couple shops with the tee in their matts. Still not sure this is the cause of the carbon failing. The cracks follow the edge of the track and hammer head slot which makes me think the damaging force was the slamming of the clubhead on the ground/matt. I also don’t see scraps from the tee anywhere.
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    ZBigStick wrote:


    What are fiberbuilt tees?




    These:



    https://shopindoorgo...e-system-5-pack



    They are a hard plastic tee inside a rubber sleeve. It adjusts up and down. Very popular but I can definitely see how it could smash that thin piece of carbon fiber as it rebounds after impact with the face.




    Please explain why a plastic tee can destror carbon fibre.

    According to Newtons thirds law: When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body.

    Basically saying that the the plastic tee and the carbon fibre feels the same amount of force, but carbon fibre gets destroyed but not the plastic tee? So you are saying that plastic is stronger than carbon fibre.Or am I missing something?
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    cforselius wrote:


    ZBigStick wrote:


    What are fiberbuilt tees?




    These:



    [url="https://shopindoorgolf.com/products/2-adjustable-tee-system-5-pack"]https://shopindoorgo...e-system-5-pack[/url]



    They are a hard plastic tee inside a rubber sleeve. It adjusts up and down. Very popular but I can definitely see how it could smash that thin piece of carbon fiber as it rebounds after impact with the face.




    Please explain why a plastic tee can destror carbon fibre.

    According to Newtons thirds law: When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body.

    Basically saying that the the plastic tee and the carbon fibre feels the same amount of force, but carbon fibre gets destroyed but not the plastic tee? So you are saying that plastic is stronger than carbon fibre.Or am I missing something?




    Carbon Fiber is a woven material layered with some kind of bonding agent - resin, epoxy, etc. Like a golf shaft, different fibers and bonding can change its strength in different ways. Cracks in a sheet of carbon fiber do not indicate the object that hit it is stronger, especially if that object is impacting the carbon on the edge, where the carbon fiber structure is weakest. Some woven nylon fabrics can stop bullets but not if it's hit on the edge. Think of a brand new golf shaft. The exposed tip can be easily chipped and damaged if you aren't careful but you can bend and torque the shaft without breaking it.



    The point is that carbon fiber is not a uniform material and will not withstand the same forces in all directions.
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    I stopped in to Golf Galaxy this weekend to look at some of the new clubs and saw the same thing. Every M5 demo in the TM hitting bay looked the same way on the bottom. That's not a club I'm buying. Even if TM "takes care of you" and "makes it right" I don't want to deal with sending it to them repeatedly for a replacement.
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    I cracked FOUR M2 3 woods inside a year. TM does stand behind their product and sent me a new one every time, even rushed delivery on multiple occasions. Eventually they sent me an M4 and it has been fine. That said, I'm not sure what my point was only to say I guess I'm not surprised.
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