You have to question Phil's character at this point

King_SlenderKing_Slender Members Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
Although he's been out in front of it, I'm really starting to question Phil Mickelson's character. He's been involved/associated with:
  1. A betting scandal and transferring large amounts of money offshore.
  2. An insider trading lawsuit
  3. Using the same guy implicated in this college admissions scandal


I can't think of another player in any sport that's been involved in as much shady activity and maintains his pristine character in the eyes of most.
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  • hell_is_chromehell_is_chrome Members Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Mar 15, 2019 12:59pm #2


    Although he's been out in front of it, I'm really starting to question Phil Mickelson's character. He's been involved/associated with:
    1. A betting scandal and transferring large amounts of money offshore.
    2. An insider trading lawsuit
    3. Using the same guy implicated in this college admissions scandal


    I can't think of another player in any sport that's been involved in as much shady activity and maintains his pristine character in the eyes of most.




    Yeah but he said he didn't do anything wrong so we have to believe him.
  • King_SlenderKing_Slender Members Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭✭✭✭




    Yeah but he said he didn't do anything so we have to believe him.






    Maybe not, but in my mind it goes back to a quote from another tour player I heard years ago - Phil always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. He could be in a room with a bunch of Wall Street sharks and he'd be giving them stock picking advice. I think when you have that mentality, there is a tendency to try and operate in gray legal areas because that is often where the opportunity lies, even though it increases legal risk. With his money, i just don't see the point, other than he has an internal need to do that to show others how smart he is.
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    Also has made some very questionable clothing choices over the years. White belts are for 32 waists and under, hefty.
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    I doubt anybody really wants to know the people they root for or cheer on, my guess is most people would be disappointed.
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members Posts: 7,678 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Fans don't care about white collar crime. He's filthy rich... You almost expect this kind of stuff with people with lots of money and fame.
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  • OldboyOldboy Members Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    Fans don't care about white collar crime. He's filthy rich... You almost expect this kind of stuff with people with lots of money and fame.




    and the golfer involved just happens to be PM .. again .. for the 3rd time .. is anyone surprised?
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  • Night trainNight train Members Posts: 2,854 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Since thousands of families have used this service in finding a college for their children, I’ll presume they’re innocent until evidence proves otherwise!
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    I know people who have spent considerable time inside and outside the ropes with him. Let's just say the opposition is not always entirely incorrect about him. I'm not judging his character, I'm just saying.



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  • Couples1Couples1 Members Posts: 150



    Although he's been out in front of it, I'm really starting to question Phil Mickelson's character. He's been involved/associated with:
    1. A betting scandal and transferring large amounts of money offshore.
    2. An insider trading lawsuit
    3. Using the same guy implicated in this college admissions scandal


    I can't think of another player in any sport that's been involved in as much shady activity and maintains his pristine character in the eyes of most.




    Yeah but he said he didn't do anything wrong so we have to believe him.




    Phil has been tainted by the other 1% crooks ... like Greg Norman, who played the front man for Wall Street stock/hedge fund scammers ( see Jack Welch, Norman's big buddy). Norman, then confused, himself and the simple minded, he was a great business man and so so so smart (sound familiar). Ya, that Cobra crap was worth that much and how is that wine business going now, Greg?.

    When it comes to the 1% fleecing that never ending national treasure (our tax money ) ... they will keep finding ways to do it.
  • hell_is_chromehell_is_chrome Members Posts: 991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just so everyone knows, I was being facetious.
  • Couples1Couples1 Members Posts: 150
    edited Mar 15, 2019 1:24pm #16



    Yeah but he said he didn't do anything so we have to believe him.






    Maybe not, but in my mind it goes back to a quote from another tour player I heard years ago - Phil always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. He could be in a room with a bunch of Wall Street sharks and he'd be giving them stock picking advice. I think when you have that mentality, there is a tendency to try and operate in gray legal areas because that is often where the opportunity lies, even though it increases legal risk. With his money, i just don't see the point, other than he has an internal need to do that to show others how smart he is.


    Actually, guys like Phil and Norman, they know it all and though are so so much smarter than anyone ... will listen to these Wall Street scammers. Only those crooks can come up with the devious theft devices they come up with , while having the perfect connections. The Gov't/ Wall Street are one in the same when it comes to crime. And few are allowed in the club. Paradoxically, only the real stupid and unlucky get caught.
  • PowderedToastManPowderedToastMan Members Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Mar 15, 2019 1:22pm #17
    There’s is a presumption of innocence in the United States. Phil is entitled to it. Remember, Anthony Galea had patients who weren’t taking PED’s. His specialty was blood spinning and Galea was talented at it. Same type of scenario may be occurring here with Phil and this college admissions thing. Just have to wait and see.



    Edit: just to be clear, I’m not defending Galea. He’s a criminal and did bad stuff. I’m simply saying not everyone who is involved with these professionals got the illegal treatments.
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  • jmkenn0jmkenn0 Members Posts: 748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pretty much wrote him off after the long-sleeve shirt he was hocking.
  • Couples1Couples1 Members Posts: 150


    There's is a presumption of innocence in the United States. Phil is entitled to it. Remember, Anthony Galea had patients who weren't taking PED's. His specialty was blood spinning and Galea was talented at it. Same type of scenario may be occurring here with Phil and this college admissions thing. Just have to wait and see.


    Like the stock scam with the convicted gambler ... Phil will skate. Doesn't mean he is innocent, just lucky.
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    He is what we call in the UK "Goldenballs". He can do what he likes because he has awesome marketing.
  • Dr. BlockDr. Block Members Posts: 612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Mar 15, 2019 1:32pm #22
    I wonder if even half the people on this thread could live up to the moral standards they hold their professional athletes too...
  • Couples1Couples1 Members Posts: 150
    edited Mar 15, 2019 1:47pm #23
    jmkenn0 wrote:


    Pretty much wrote him off after the long-sleeve shirt he was hocking.


    Who designed that junk ... that LA designer guy who was involved in college scam too. The feds should 'follow the ugly golf garb' ( Stewart Cink next ?)
  • Dr. BlockDr. Block Members Posts: 612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Mar 15, 2019 1:41pm #24
    I'm also confused at the level of judgement over a mans involvement with a organization that, at the time he used it, had no negative reputation or implication of crooked practices. He had no idea, and that's what he said in the press.
  • OldboyOldboy Members Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Mar 15, 2019 1:40pm #25
    Couples1 wrote:

    jmkenn0 wrote:


    Pretty much wrote him off after the long-sleeve shirt he was hocking.


    Who designed that junk ... that LA designer guy who was involvd in college scam too. The feds should 'follow the ugly golf garb' ( Stewart Cink next ?)




    well how bout this one .. and credit to it already being posted in another topic .. the father (and husband of Lori Laughlin who was arrested) of the girl at USC on the yacht is Mossimo Giannuli .. who is the founder of G/FORE clothing (and a member at Bel Air and Lakeside).. guess what shoes Phil WEARS??? yeah the've never met before ...
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    Never buying GFore stuff again.....
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    he would make a good politician...first pga tour player to go all the way
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    Dr. Block wrote:


    I wonder if even half the people on this thread could live up to the moral standards they hold their professional athletes too...




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  • youdamantigeryoudamantiger Members Posts: 444 ✭✭✭✭


    Although he's been out in front of it, I'm really starting to question Phil Mickelson's character. He's been involved/associated with:
    1. A betting scandal and transferring large amounts of money offshore.
    2. An insider trading lawsuit
    3. Using the same guy implicated in this college admissions scandal


    I can't think of another player in any sport that's been involved in as much shady activity and maintains his pristine character in the eyes of most.




    Using that logic we have no choice but to confidently assert that Tiger took PEDs given to him by Dr.Galea.
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