Thank You Matthew Wolf..!! For Releasing The "I'm GoNNA DO MY CRAZY SWING" In Me..!!!

[diablocrusher]

> @Spongeb0b said:

> Can you share more or link to more on wrist action in transition?

Wolff's coach George Gankas put a video on his instagram the other day after the win about Wolff's wrist action. He uses an extremely weak grip then flexes (bows) the wrist in transition to get into his impact position.

[iteachgolf]

> @milesgiles said:

> > @Zitlow said:

> > In 96 Faldo hit long irons into 13 and 15 at Augusta, in 97 Tiger was hitting short irons into those holes. A huge inflection point.

>

> Faldo is 17 years older..and was never considered long or straight off the tee. He was plenty long enough with the irons.

>

>

>

 

Never considered straight off the tee? He was top10 on Tour in driving accuracy almost every year (that year he was 2nd). I do agree comparing a 21 year old Tiger to a 39 year old Faldo is pointless

[iteachgolf]

> @airjammer said:

> > @iteachgolf said:

> > > @airjammer said:

> > > > @MPStrat said:

> > > > Faldo hates his swing

> > > Well Faldo in his prime couldn’t hit it within 50 yards of the ? with the same equipment. With all of Monte’s struggles with getting fast in the transition in the senior us open..the most amazing part of the ? performance is to watch how his rhythm never changed

> > >

> >

> > Faldo wasn’t that short and Wolff isn’t that long. Faldo was 18-20 yards shorter than the longest hitters in his day. Wolff is long don’t get me wrong but Faldo could certainly get within 50 yards of him. He averaged mid 260s with persimmon and his longest drives with persimmon were over 300

>

> Yes there was a little bit of hyperbole but my point was he built his swing on precision being the most important and a lot of the modern superstars has built a speed swing biased swing.

>

> I believe like a lot of older players despise how the game has changed to a power game instead of a control game.

 

At the top of the game it’s very much precision and control game. I teach a number of very long players (one led the driving distance stat last week) and their focus has always been about control, with speed being a by product of being more efficient. When Bubba was winning majors he was also leading the tour in GIR. The game is still about control and accuracy, they just also hit it far

[chippa13]

> @Zitlow said:

> In 96 Faldo hit long irons into 13 and 15 at Augusta, in 97 Tiger was hitting short irons into those holes. A huge inflection point.

 

And now the young guys are blowing it past Tiger. Age catches everyone.

[gators78]

I have to LOLz with Wolff now being the poster boy for thumbing your nose at the swing instructions and being your best swing self, if he can do it so can I!....right?....

Well, his golf swing is exceptional, amazing turn, great leg work, perfect shallowing, and speed to burn, it won't change the fact we're all steep, narrow, loving goats, and inefficient.

[Jacob Mac]

It isn't like this is a homemade swing. He works with GG, he just likes steep to shallow. He's hardly the first pro golfer to use that move. I bet Wolff could make a lot of swings work. He has a ton of talent and has worked hard with a good instructor.

[playa]

I love a good Faldo flame thread, hasn't been one in a while. For the size of the guy Faldo was a very short hitter with driver. When he and Norman and Seve ruled the roost he was well behind them off the tee.

[wagsgt]

Listen to Wolff and Gankas interview on NLU. They talk about all the changes he made in his swing. He very much needed an instructor.. I feel like everyone looks for an excuse to bash instruction..Your "homegrown/swing your own swing" isn't winning any tournaments so why would you go back to that and not try and get better?

[airjammer]

> @iteachgolf said:

> > @airjammer said:

> > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > @airjammer said:

> > > > > @MPStrat said:

> > > > > Faldo hates his swing

> > > > Well Faldo in his prime couldn’t hit it within 50 yards of the ? with the same equipment. With all of Monte’s struggles with getting fast in the transition in the senior us open..the most amazing part of the ? performance is to watch how his rhythm never changed

> > > >

> > >

> > > Faldo wasn’t that short and Wolff isn’t that long. Faldo was 18-20 yards shorter than the longest hitters in his day. Wolff is long don’t get me wrong but Faldo could certainly get within 50 yards of him. He averaged mid 260s with persimmon and his longest drives with persimmon were over 300

> >

> > Yes there was a little bit of hyperbole but my point was he built his swing on precision being the most important and a lot of the modern superstars has built a speed swing biased swing.

> >

> > I believe like a lot of older players despise how the game has changed to a power game instead of a control game.

>

> At the top of the game it’s very much precision and control game. I teach a number of very long players (one led the driving distance stat last week) and their focus has always been about control, with speed being a by product of being more efficient. When Bubba was winning majors he was also leading the tour in GIR. The game is still about control and accuracy, they just also hit it far

 

Come on Dan..you going to use Bubba who ranks 174th in par 3 scoring and not much better on par 4 scoring but 10th in par 5 scoring as you example??‍♂️ Without par 5’s Bubba would be lucky to keep his card most years.

 

Par 3 scoring or if they had par 3 proximity to the hole tells me if they can control their golf ball. That is because it’s the only time the big hitters might have to use something longer than a 7 iron to hit a green in regulation.

 

Rory is #2 and he is a ggp “generational great player” maybe the best driver of the golf ball every and long iron player

[kobe123]

> @Krt22 said:

> > @"Lefty Light HItter" said:

> > > @airjammer said:

> > >

> >

> > I do not see how people's front heel raises naturally like that. I've tried and tried and mine stays on the ground no matter how much weight/pressure I put into the rear heel.

>

> It happens naturally if you pivot correctly.

 

So Tiger/Rory/DJ don't pivot correctly? Interesting.

[Man_O_War]

> @gators78 said:

> I have to LOLz with Wolff now being the poster boy for thumbing your nose at the swing instructions and being your best swing self, if he can do it so can I!....right?....

> Well, his golf swing is exceptional, amazing turn, great leg work, perfect shallowing, and speed to burn, it won't change the fact we're all steep, narrow, loving goats, and inefficient.

 

and talk about making a bad situation worse by copying the impossible.

[iteachgolf]

> @airjammer said:

> > @iteachgolf said:

> > > @airjammer said:

> > > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > > @airjammer said:

> > > > > > @MPStrat said:

> > > > > > Faldo hates his swing

> > > > > Well Faldo in his prime couldn’t hit it within 50 yards of the ? with the same equipment. With all of Monte’s struggles with getting fast in the transition in the senior us open..the most amazing part of the ? performance is to watch how his rhythm never changed

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Faldo wasn’t that short and Wolff isn’t that long. Faldo was 18-20 yards shorter than the longest hitters in his day. Wolff is long don’t get me wrong but Faldo could certainly get within 50 yards of him. He averaged mid 260s with persimmon and his longest drives with persimmon were over 300

> > >

> > > Yes there was a little bit of hyperbole but my point was he built his swing on precision being the most important and a lot of the modern superstars has built a speed swing biased swing.

> > >

> > > I believe like a lot of older players despise how the game has changed to a power game instead of a control game.

> >

> > At the top of the game it’s very much precision and control game. I teach a number of very long players (one led the driving distance stat last week) and their focus has always been about control, with speed being a by product of being more efficient. When Bubba was winning majors he was also leading the tour in GIR. The game is still about control and accuracy, they just also hit it far

>

> Come on Dan..you going to use Bubba who ranks 174th in par 3 scoring and not much better on par 4 scoring but 10th in par 5 scoring as you example??‍♂️ Without par 5’s Bubba would be lucky to keep his card most years.

>

> Par 3 scoring or if they had par 3 proximity to the hole tells me if they can control their golf ball. That is because it’s the only time the big hitters might have to use something longer than a 7 iron to hit a green in regulation.

>

> Rory is #2 and he is a ggp “generational great player” maybe the best driver of the golf ball every and long iron player

 

Notice I said when he was winning majors? He led the tour in par 4 scoring in 20-2 and was 6th in 2014. You do realize I’m around it all the time right? The top players hit it far and have control.

 

Faldo for his entire prime averaged 67% GIR. Jon Rahm worst year on tour is better than that. To say it’s all power and these guys don’t have control is ignorant. Fact is the best hit it much further and hit more greens than Faldo did on longer and tougher golf courses than Faldo played.

[sshadow2]

I appreciate the fact that I don't have to be hyper-critical of how my swing looks -- and yes, I think he is the current poster boy for that. In that final round, I've rarely seen anyone that consistently accurate for so many holes (approach/wedge + putting). As long as I get on plane with proper face angle and path, can consistently repeat it, and got my distances consistently down, I'm golden.

 

If anything, he points to the problem in instruction where a teacher tries to make a swing look like someone else's. A lot of top teachers don't do that, but many teachers do. Especially in my local area. If you use a dance mix like Wolff as a swing trigger...it's all right!

[Krt22]

> @kobe123 said:

> > @Krt22 said:

> > > @"Lefty Light HItter" said:

> > > > @airjammer said:

> > > >

> > >

> > > I do not see how people's front heel raises naturally like that. I've tried and tried and mine stays on the ground no matter how much weight/pressure I put into the rear heel.

> >

> > It happens naturally if you pivot correctly.

>

> So Tiger/Rory/DJ don't pivot correctly? Interesting.

 

Ehh you said that, not me.

[Dpavs]

It's a two piece swing with an extra pair of checkered pants but it works for him and that is all that matters! But really once he lays the club back at the top it get's pretty from there on down.

[Zitlow]

A high degree of confidence separates predators from the prey.

[kobe123]

> @Krt22 said:

> > @kobe123 said:

> > > @Krt22 said:

> > > > @"Lefty Light HItter" said:

> > > > > @airjammer said:

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > I do not see how people's front heel raises naturally like that. I've tried and tried and mine stays on the ground no matter how much weight/pressure I put into the rear heel.

> > >

> > > It happens naturally if you pivot correctly.

> >

> > So Tiger/Rory/DJ don't pivot correctly? Interesting.

>

> Ehh you said that, not me.

 

You said "it happens naturally if you pivot correctly" since tiger/dj/rory left foot doesn't come up you are implying that they don't pivot correctly. Therefore, you said it, not me.

[Krt22]

> @kobe123 said:

> > @Krt22 said:

> > > @kobe123 said:

> > > > @Krt22 said:

> > > > > @"Lefty Light HItter" said:

> > > > > > @airjammer said:

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I do not see how people's front heel raises naturally like that. I've tried and tried and mine stays on the ground no matter how much weight/pressure I put into the rear heel.

> > > >

> > > > It happens naturally if you pivot correctly.

> > >

> > > So Tiger/Rory/DJ don't pivot correctly? Interesting.

> >

> > Ehh you said that, not me.

>

> You said "it happens naturally if you pivot correctly" since tiger/dj/rory left foot doesn't come up you are implying that they don't pivot correctly. Therefore, you said it, not me.

 

Just for you, let me rephrase. It will happen naturally if you pivot in a similar manner...and I bet Tiger's current swing has very little pressure on his left heal.

[MK7Golf21]

I walked and watched Wolff today during practice round and he looked like a kid in a candy store playing out there, he played with Tringale and Luke Donald. His game looked pretty darn solid, short game was exceptional. He really compresses ball with a good amount of lean, was pretty impressive. I’d expect him to have a high finish this week too, we shall see.

[wmblake2000]

Somewhere I heard Gankas talk about the key to his approach is 'match ups,' and that was how he approached Wolff. Monte also talks about this, and I am sure others do, too. But I have no real idea what this really means (except conceptually). Can anyone shed any light on where you can learn a little more on this?

[zacgolf]

Look at his new web site, details on match ups

 

[zacgolf]

address : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqixnK_dH7fqXB2sNt54SsA

[dap]

Surprised no one has mentioned Leadbetters A swing yet. Wolff would be the poster child for that method. Leadbetter should be getting the credit, not Gankas lol

[airjammer]

Leadbetter should only get credit for marketing golf instruction to the point thousands of instructors can support themselves without running a proshop as well as giving lessons.

 

As far as I can tell nobody as had success with his A swing...gg should get all the credit he has been given.

[Krt22]

> @dap said:

> Surprised no one has mentioned Leadbetters A swing yet. Wolff would be the poster child for that method. Leadbetter should be getting the credit, not Gankas lol

 

Because minus getting across the line they really arent the same?

[wmblake2000]

> @zacgolf said:

> address : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqixnK_dH7fqXB2sNt54SsA

 

Thx!

[MK7Golf21]

> @wagsgt said:

> Listen to Wolff and Gankas interview on NLU. They talk about all the changes he made in his swing. He very much needed an instructor.. I feel like everyone looks for an excuse to bash instruction..Your "homegrown/swing your own swing" isn't winning any tournaments so why would you go back to that and not try and get better?

 

I listened to it yesterday, Wollf didn't have an instructor until he went to Gankas his freshman year of H.S. He was already a special player I guess, was shooting some 60 rounds and winning tournaments. They said he had the same move but his stance use to be really closed and path way out to the right with little rotation, he hit huge 30 yard right to left slingers and Gankas helped him change all that. No doubt he helped take him to the next level.

Regarding the crossed up swing that Gankas teaches alot of people now, he originally learned that from Wollf.

[Scottbox]

It's not the worst idea to practice his backswing and transition if you take it inside too much and lay it off, then come over the top. You'll never get close to what he does, but you might fix a slicer's loop.

[dap]

> @airjammer said:

> Leadbetter should only get credit for marketing golf instruction to the point thousands of instructors can support themselves without running a proshop as well as giving lessons.

>

> As far as I can tell nobody as had success with his A swing...gg should get all the credit he has been given.

 

Lydia Ko won 12 LPGA titles including 2 Majors between 2014 and 2016 using the A swing. She's won virtually nothing since parting with Leadbetter and going back to a more conventional swing.

 

I was just joking about GG. Obviously deserves some credit but not all. The basic foundation of Wolff's swing was set way before Gankas became his instructor. He was actually one of the few instructors who liked his natural swing and didn't want to change it. Just tweak it.

 

If anything Wolff's natural swing resembles Leadbetter's A swing more than Gankas's teachings.

 

[dap]

> @Krt22 said:

> > @dap said:

> > Surprised no one has mentioned Leadbetters A swing yet. Wolff would be the poster child for that method. Leadbetter should be getting the credit, not Gankas lol

>

> Because minus getting across the line they really arent the same?

They are more similar than not. Leadbetter didn't just pull the A swing out of his Word not allowed. It was inspired by one of his favourite swings of all time, Calvin Peete who had a very similar action to Wolff.