Ping i-e Irons?

[misplacedtexan83]

Denver.... I have observed everything you don't want to see on a golf course in my past two rounds.

Irons are a piece of it and so is the rest of my game at this moment. So, unlike some, I know it's the Indian right now.

[Geaux Gators]

So im guessing pings product line is now

S55 - tha freakshow
iE1 - the sharpshooter
G30 - the gamer
GMax - the old guy who shoots his age and takes all your money

[naths]

Would it be an issue in performance and such like if I ordered these 1/4" shorter to match my current irons length?

[KarstenK]

[quote name='naths' timestamp='1441633913' post='12275312']
Would it be an issue in performance and such like if I ordered these 1/4" shorter to match my current irons length?
[/quote]
Doubtful you would notice any difference with a quarter inch taken off.

[denvergolf]

[quote name='misplacedtexan83' timestamp='1441623088' post='12274838']Denver.... I have observed everything you don't want to see on a golf course in my past two rounds.

Irons are a piece of it and so is the rest of my game at this moment. So, unlike some, I know it's the Indian right now. [/quote]well that's no good. Hopefully it comes around. So far, the irons are exactly what the dr ordered for this once or twice a week hack.

[Chef Otto]

Ordered a set with Project X 6.0 on Sep 1 and they have already shipped................

[misplacedtexan83]

[quote name='denvergolf' timestamp='1441636050' post='12275450'][quote name='misplacedtexan83' timestamp='1441623088' post='12274838']Denver.... I have observed everything you don't want to see on a golf course in my past two rounds.

Irons are a piece of it and so is the rest of my game at this moment. So, unlike some, I know it's the Indian right now. [/quote]well that's no good. Hopefully it comes around. So far, the irons are exactly what the dr ordered for this once or twice a week hack.[/quote]

Yeah man. It's been frustrating but different lie angle and tip stiff shafts are new. So, it's a PROCESS ...it works for TW right?

Glad to hear a 1-2 time hack is smashing them!

[Togatown22]

[quote name='square' timestamp='1441598042' post='12274272']
[quote name='gripandrip' timestamp='1441570130' post='12272558']
One question. There are a lot of comments about these clubs are great for the 10+ handicapper, good for the 5-15 handicapper, etc. What makes them less desirable for the 0-5 handicapper other than maybe ego?
[/quote]

The comments about this iron or that iron being suitable for a particular handicap range are nonsense.
It is true that muscle back irons (blades) require especially square, quality ball contact. But blades are about 1% of the market.
The other 99% of iron designs are cavity backs, and the perimeter weighting of a cavity back makes it suitable for any skill level player, from beginner to Tour pro. Your S57's are a traditional head size cavity back, which are actually easier to swing and square at impact, especially off less than ideal lies, than the trendy over sized head designs like the new Ping ie model.
If you want some new irons then buy the S55. I think you will enjoy swinging and playing them more than an over sized iron head.
[/quote]

I'm a 7.1 right now, I played the S57 for 4 or 5 seasons when I was working down from a 9, and I can tell you hands down the new iE is much easier to hit from every lie I've encountered. It's a much more forgiving head, for me, and there's no harsh feedback when I catch it a bit thin or out on the toe (my most common misses). I had the i15's for 3 seasons before switching to the iE, and they gave me better results than the S57. From my personal experience, the iE irons are a much more forgiving, solid, and better feeling iron. I personally wouldn't call the iE "oversized", to me that is a big stretch.

[rpaige88]

I'm really thinking about doing an iE1/s55 combo set. I already have the s55s but lately I've been struggling with my 4-6 irons. Just not as consistent as I would like them to be. I play around a 5-6 but practice time has been a lot less this year due to my back. I hit my 7-PW s55s perfectly but the longer irons just aren't where I would like them to be. Any others have an iE1 combo set?

I think it could take a bit of work to get my gaps figured out with the iE1s. I would just take out the recoil prototypes in my s55 long irons and keep them the same length and lie angle. May have to do some loft work though. Right now my 6 is 190/195 5i is 200/205 and 4i about 210/215.

[square]

[quote name='naths' timestamp='1441633913' post='12275312']
Would it be an issue in performance and such like if I ordered these 1/4" shorter to match my current irons length?
[/quote]

If your current set ball impact marks are well centered then a +.25 longer set will move the impact marks significantly towards the heel.

[Nessism]

[quote name='square' timestamp='1441673541' post='12278160']
[quote name='naths' timestamp='1441633913' post='12275312']
Would it be an issue in performance and such like if I ordered these 1/4" shorter to match my current irons length?
[/quote]

If your current set ball impact marks are well centered then a +.25 longer set will move the impact marks significantly towards the heel.
[/quote]

Not true.

Do you hit the 6-iron dead center and the 5 on the heel and 7 on the toe?

[Techgolfer1]

[quote name='rpaige88' timestamp='1441671258' post='12277946']I'm really thinking about doing an iE1/s55 combo set. I already have the s55s but lately I've been struggling with my 4-6 irons. Just not as consistent as I would like them to be. I play around a 5-6 but practice time has been a lot less this year due to my back. I hit my 7-PW s55s perfectly but the longer irons just aren't where I would like them to be. Any others have an iE1 combo set?

I think it could take a bit of work to get my gaps figured out with the iE1s. I would just take out the recoil prototypes in my s55 long irons and keep them the same length and lie angle. May have to do some loft work though. Right now my 6 is 190/195 5i is 200/205 and 4i about 210/215.[/quote]

I have both sets. I love the s55 and have taken my handicap down to a +3.5 from a +2.5 in the two months I've played them. I just received my i irons about two weeks ago in 4-gap. The long irons are much easier to hit, I gained a little distance and they do feel better. I just put the whole set in the bag this week after a Monday-Tuesday tournament. I did put my 4,5,6 i irons in for the tournament blindly and had zero issues adjusting. I don't intend on getting rid of the s55 irons and may go back to them but I haven't noticed any performance issues, loss of performance and the i irons feel like a forged iron to me. So all in all I think I will be happy with the new irons.

Now when you get to the short irons in the new i irons they're the ones I'm most pleased with. They're barely bigger than the s55 and have minimal minuscule offset.

I stopped at 5 iron in my s55 and have a callaway ut for the 4 iron in 24 degrees. I often thought that I barely hit my 5 iron further than my 6 iron. I think it had to do with not quite catching it as well. The long irons in the s55 are pretty small. I don't mind a little help.

Both sets are set up D3 swing weight and project x 6.0 shafts. 38.25" on the 5 iron which is 1/4" long in the i irons and 0.5" in the s55.

[kevnixon]

Really interested in the above posts . I'm a current s55 player 4 hcap playing s300. Feel I could use an extra half club distance and forgiveness in the s55 4',5 iron . I hit them straight but lose distance if not out of centre .
I'm not interested in a mixed set

[MJL313214]

[quote name='Chef Otto' timestamp='1441638090' post='12275588']
Ordered a set with Project X 6.0 on Sep 1 and they have already shipped................
[/quote]

I ordered mine on Monday, August 31 and they were on my doorstep Friday, September 4. I was really surprised. And happy.

[Golf64]

Funny how Mahan went from S55 to Ping I's?! Starting to see a trend of players going to more forgiving irons?!

[Nessism]

[quote name='Golf64' timestamp='1441716092' post='12280062']
Funny how Mahan went from S55 to Ping I's?! Starting to see a trend of players going to more forgiving irons?!
[/quote]

Even most pros don't try to maneuver the ball most of the time. They play their stock shot, be it a fade, draw, or straight. I'm surprised by how many better players bother to use the S's at all. The i's are more forgiving and golf is a game of misses.

[marlin29311]

[quote name='Golf64' timestamp='1441716092' post='12280062']
Funny how Mahan went from S55 to Ping I's?! Starting to see a trend of players going to more forgiving irons?!
[/quote]

I don't know that you can call one player switching clubs a 'trend'....

[Mcgeeno]

[quote name='marlin29311' timestamp='1441721648' post='12280572']
I don't know that you can call one player switching clubs a 'trend'....
[/quote]

Almost half the staffers have changed according to Ping's website.

I got mine last week, put 3 rounds in over the weekend;

The long irons are just ridiculous. I can hit them long and high. My bad swings still end up with bad results, but I'm catching the edge of greens or just off with the short irons instead of an 'off the planet' miss.

I couldnt be happier thus far.

[gallas2]

[quote name='Mcgeeno' timestamp='1441721868' post='12280604']
[quote name='marlin29311' timestamp='1441721648' post='12280572']
I don't know that you can call one player switching clubs a 'trend'....
[/quote]

Almost half the staffers have changed according to Ping's website.

I got mine last week, put 3 rounds in over the weekend;

The long irons are just ridiculous. I can hit them long and high. My bad swings still end up with bad results, but I'm catching the edge of greens or just off with the short irons instead of an 'off the planet' miss.

I couldnt be happier thus far.
[/quote]

+1.

I've got about 8 rounds in so far and these are by far my fav ping irons (yes even better than the i5s). Index is down, confidence is up and wallet is full.

[kevnixon]

I wouldn't say it's a 50 50 split on ping staffers but certainly the ratio between I and s is getting closer

[pullfade]

[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1441677442' post='12278524']
[quote name='square' timestamp='1441673541' post='12278160']
[quote name='naths' timestamp='1441633913' post='12275312']
Would it be an issue in performance and such like if I ordered these 1/4" shorter to match my current irons length?
[/quote]

If your current set ball impact marks are well centered then a +.25 longer set will move the impact marks significantly towards the heel.
[/quote]

Not true.

Do you hit the 6-iron dead center and the 5 on the heel and 7 on the toe?
[/quote]
After reading this I think I will play all my irons the same 6 iron length and just change lofts.....should keep me dead center impact.

Square....do you think the average human grips the club in the same exact spot every time??? So choke down a little you are screwed??? Must be why all my knockdowns fly off the toe....

[square]

[quote name='pullfade' timestamp='1441761131' post='12284444']
[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1441677442' post='12278524']
[quote name='square' timestamp='1441673541' post='12278160']
[quote name='naths' timestamp='1441633913' post='12275312']
Would it be an issue in performance and such like if I ordered these 1/4" shorter to match my current irons length?
[/quote]

If your current set ball impact marks are well centered then a +.25 longer set will move the impact marks significantly towards the heel.
[/quote]

Not true.

Do you hit the 6-iron dead center and the 5 on the heel and 7 on the toe?
[/quote]
After reading this I think I will play all my irons the same 6 iron length and just change lofts.....should keep me dead center impact.

Square....do you think the average human grips the club in the same exact spot every time??? So choke down a little you are screwed??? Must be why all my knockdowns fly off the toe....
[/quote]

If to play a particular shot he chokes down on the club then his posture, swing plane, swing tempo and rhythm etc... all naturally change as well.
If, for a standard, stock iron shot the player is making fundamentally sound swings yet his ball impact is towards the toe, then that player is using too short of a shaft iron length. .For that player a .25" increase of shaft length will move the ball impact marks a significant amount from the toe towards the center. Hope this helps.

[Nessism]

1/4" of length won't affect impact location on the face. Iron length is all about finding a comfortable length at the extremes of the bag (wedges and long irons). Too long and you will struggle to make solid contact with the long clubs. Too short and you will be stooped over for wedge shots. Club length based on height and arm length is fine and don't worry about small length differences since they don't matter.

[gallas2]

[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1441764824' post='12284930']
1/4" of length won't affect impact location on the face. Iron length is all about finding a comfortable length at the extremes of the bag (wedges and long irons). Too long and you will struggle to make solid contact with the long clubs. Too short and you will be stooped over for wedge shots. Club length based on height and arm length is fine and don't worry about small length differences since they don't matter.
[/quote]

+1. I wouldn't worry about length too much......[color=#323232]DeChambeau uses irons that are all the same length and he's a physics major [/color]

[DPGCidol]

Hey guys,

I just got my set last week switching from G20 CFS r-flex to the new I-series with PX 6.0 shaft.
You can say that I'm still a beginner who started golf one and a half year ago but I'm kind of ambitious and play a 10 hcp right now.
I went to my local fitter to get some of the new Glide wedges and one thing led to another so I ordered them after having demoed all shaft options Ping now offers. Trackman said that I've CHS of 88 with a 7 iron. Unfortunately there was only a 7 iron club head...
After having received the new irons I went to our range to acclimate with the new irons. Right now I'm kind of gloomy because I almost lost 15-20% in lenght in average. The other thing is that I now have less mishits than with the more foregiving G20s... Almost every shot is a slight draw, though shorter. These are my numbers. Note that I'm from germany so all lenght data is in meter.


E3 170m
E4 165m (G20 185m-195m)
E5 160m (G20 175m-180m)
E6 150m (G20 165m-170m)
E7 145m (G20 150m-155m)
E8 140m (G20 145m-150m)
E9 130m (G20 130m-135m)
PW 120m (G20 120m-123m)
50° <100m
54° <80m (G20 SW 95m-100m)

The main reason for why I wanted to change my G20s was the ballooning of them. I'm 29 years old and would describe myself as athletically and flexible. The PX 6.0 now are ballooning even more... Sure my swing playes a role for sure but all friends who hit these iron/shaft combination were shorter and higher in ball flight than with their own irons. This can't be about the german air. Anyone made similar expiriences?

Best Regards from Germany

Sebastian

[NRJyzr]

[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1441716272' post='12280090']
[quote name='Golf64' timestamp='1441716092' post='12280062']
Funny how Mahan went from S55 to Ping I's?! Starting to see a trend of players going to more forgiving irons?!
[/quote]

Even most pros don't try to maneuver the ball most of the time. They play their stock shot, be it a fade, draw, or straight. I'm surprised by how many better players bother to use the S's at all. The i's are more forgiving and golf is a game of misses.
[/quote]


May be trajectory (and may have been pointed out already, haven't gotten to end of thread).

More forgiving iron designs tend to hit the ball higher (very generally speaking, of course), something not needed for a great many pros.

[denvergolf]

[quote name='DPGCidol' timestamp='1441805401' post='12286852']Hey guys,

I just got my set last week switching from G20 CFS r-flex to the new I-series with PX 6.0 shaft.
You can say that I'm still a beginner who started golf one and a half year ago but I'm kind of ambitious and play a 10 hcp right now.
I went to my local fitter to get some of the new Glide wedges and one thing led to another so I ordered them after having demoed all shaft options Ping now offers. Trackman said that I've CHS of 88 with a 7 iron. Unfortunately there was only a 7 iron club head...
After having received the new irons I went to our range to acclimate with the new irons. Right now I'm kind of gloomy because I almost lost 15-20% in lenght in average. The other thing is that I now have less mishits than with the more foregiving G20s... Almost every shot is a slight draw, though shorter. These are my numbers. Note that I'm from germany so all lenght data is in meter.


E3 170m
E4 165m (G20 185m-195m)
E5 160m (G20 175m-180m)
E6 150m (G20 165m-170m)
E7 145m (G20 150m-155m)
E8 140m (G20 145m-150m)
E9 130m (G20 130m-135m)
PW 120m (G20 120m-123m)
50° <100m
54° <80m (G20 SW 95m-100m)

The main reason for why I wanted to change my G20s was the ballooning of them. I'm 29 years old and would describe myself as athletically and flexible. The PX 6.0 now are ballooning even more... Sure my swing playes a role for sure but all friends who hit these iron/shaft combination were shorter and higher in ball flight than with their own irons. This can't be about the german air. Anyone made similar expiriences?

Best Regards from Germany

Sebastian[/quote]you made a pretty big jump in shaft imo. Also, the px is designed for a high flat ball flat. If you aren't generating enough speed/spin it's possible they are just falling out of the sky with some distance loss. I feel the biggest mistake people make with px is going too stiff. The 6.0 is effectively a dg x100 soft stepped once.

[kevnixon]

Hit a demo 7 iron with the s300 this morning . I was using range balls but peak height seemed lower than my s55 which was side by side same spec. This was a very pleasant surprise
Going to get on a monitor tomorrow

[gallas2]

I agree with Denver re our German friend. PX 6.0 and CFS reg are worlds apart. Try a different shaft (DG S300 is lower flight for me).

[Foreleft]

[quote name='denvergolf' timestamp='1441810699' post='12287426']
[quote name='DPGCidol' timestamp='1441805401' post='12286852']Hey guys,

I just got my set last week switching from G20 CFS r-flex to the new I-series with PX 6.0 shaft.
You can say that I'm still a beginner who started golf one and a half year ago but I'm kind of ambitious and play a 10 hcp right now.
I went to my local fitter to get some of the new Glide wedges and one thing led to another so I ordered them after having demoed all shaft options Ping now offers. Trackman said that I've CHS of 88 with a 7 iron. Unfortunately there was only a 7 iron club head...
After having received the new irons I went to our range to acclimate with the new irons. Right now I'm kind of gloomy because I almost lost 15-20% in lenght in average. The other thing is that I now have less mishits than with the more foregiving G20s... Almost every shot is a slight draw, though shorter. These are my numbers. Note that I'm from germany so all lenght data is in meter.


E3 170m
E4 165m (G20 185m-195m)
E5 160m (G20 175m-180m)
E6 150m (G20 165m-170m)
E7 145m (G20 150m-155m)
E8 140m (G20 145m-150m)
E9 130m (G20 130m-135m)
PW 120m (G20 120m-123m)
50° <100m
54° <80m (G20 SW 95m-100m)

The main reason for why I wanted to change my G20s was the ballooning of them. I'm 29 years old and would describe myself as athletically and flexible. The PX 6.0 now are ballooning even more... Sure my swing playes a role for sure but all friends who hit these iron/shaft combination were shorter and higher in ball flight than with their own irons. This can't be about the german air. Anyone made similar expiriences?

Best Regards from Germany

Sebastian[/quote]you made a pretty big jump in shaft imo. Also, the px is designed for a high flat ball flat. If you aren't generating enough speed/spin it's possible they are just falling out of the sky with some distance loss. I feel the biggest mistake people make with px is going too stiff. The 6.0 is effectively a dg x100 soft stepped once.
[/quote]

As noted, you made a BIG jump in stiffness- essentially going from a soft regular to a stiffer "stiff".

Not surprised that you have lost distance, as a weaker shaft will provide more distance, but also greater dispersion. How is the ball flight and dispersion compared to before? That will give you a clue as to whether you are on the right path or not.