Ping G400 Drivers

[VegasBrady]

I haven’t found any driver with any shaft combo to come within 3mph ball speed of my G400. And I’ve hit a bunch. FWIW, I play a 10.5 clocked down to 9.5 with the tour 65 Shaft.

[swizbeatz]

It's all good, I'm not offended. It was the same launch monitor at both places - the Foresight GC2. I don't know what to tell you. I have emails with all the data from both places and these are the averages.

 

Edit: Having done a 'static' fitting before when I bought that JPX 850 when I replaced my G20, I was also a low spin and high launch. I only tested those two drivers and that was 3 years ago. I specifically remember getting spin around 1,800 with the JPX and I was over 2,500 with the G20. Also, in general, I have a very high ball flight and my ball does tend to run out.

 

Something is off. Try putting those figures into https://flightscope....tory-optimizer/ It's more about making sure you are getting accurate info to make your decisions. There's just no way that the ball is going 290ish with a sub 150 ball speed

 

I'm always around 275-290 with the driver. So while I understand that you think something may be off, the results are similar to what I get on the course. The readings were from two different places and they both measured very similarly. I don't know what else to say.

 

There’s absolutely no way, no offense. GC2 is what they use at big box stores right?

[groach]

Again, I don't know what you guys are looking for. I'm not offended, but I also don't know how I'm supposed to argue with the data. Are both stores GC2's broken? Need to be re-calibrated? I have no idea. All I know is the data I was given. Also, if this matters, I have a major upward angle of attack. I don't hit down or even square on my driver. I'm hitting that bad boy coming up, and I tee it up a little higher than most, which is why I think I get such a high ball flight, low spin, and a lot of roll. In fact, the fitter at my second fitting said 'Man, you have a wicked angle of attack'. To which I asked 'is that bad?' And he said 'no, don't change a thing. you're like a machine with the consistent launch angle and ball speed, so it's working for you'.

[Armour248]

Again, I don't know what you guys are looking for. I'm not offended, but I also don't know how I'm supposed to argue with the data. Are both stores GC2's broken? Need to be re-calibrated? I have no idea. All I know is the data I was given. Also, if this matters, I have a major upward angle of attack. I don't hit down or even square on my driver. I'm hitting that bad boy coming up, and I tee it up a little higher than most, which is why I think I get such a high ball flight, low spin, and a lot of roll. In fact, the fitter at my second fitting said 'Man, you have a wicked angle of attack'. To which I asked 'is that bad?' And he said 'no, don't change a thing. you're like a machine with the consistent launch angle and ball speed, so it's working for you'.

 

From what I know, the results are physically impossible...so yeah, either both stores have bad GC2's, the balls you were using were jacked up, the low spin is creating bad results, etc. It's just a matter of making sure people are getting accurate information. Otherwise you're using bad data to make decisions, that's all. My guess is that the ball speed readings are jacked up, the GC2's have the elevation set at like 3000 feet, or they have the range blowing dead downwind in the settings

[swizbeatz]

Again, I don't know what you guys are looking for. I'm not offended, but I also don't know how I'm supposed to argue with the data. Are both stores GC2's broken? Need to be re-calibrated? I have no idea. All I know is the data I was given. Also, if this matters, I have a major upward angle of attack. I don't hit down or even square on my driver. I'm hitting that bad boy coming up, and I tee it up a little higher than most, which is why I think I get such a high ball flight, low spin, and a lot of roll. In fact, the fitter at my second fitting said 'Man, you have a wicked angle of attack'. To which I asked 'is that bad?' And he said 'no, don't change a thing. you're like a machine with the consistent launch angle and ball speed, so it's working for you'.

 

 

We’re not really looking for anything, just trying to help you. If your comfortable with your results, you do you. Or listen to those of us saying those numbers are whack and go somewhere else before buying a driver. Totally up to you. I wouldn’t put any stock in those spin numbers knowing other numbers are obviously incorrect.

[chrisgilly09]

Yes on a GC2 you can hit a 1500rpm knuckleball and carry it 20 yards farther out of nowhere, not to mention flatter landing angle and more roll. Something to do with over-valuing spin reduction or something. Probably best to find a tm or flightscope to double check

[Armour248]

Yes on a GC2 you can hit a 1500rpm knuckleball and carry it 20 yards farther out of nowhere, not to mention flatter landing angle and more roll. Something to do with over-valuing spin reduction or something. Probably best to find a tm or flightscope to double check

 

Interesting and good to know. I've never seen that, but I'm also not hitting 1500 rpm shots. I'm assuming that issue was addressed with the GCQuad?

[Nixhex524]

Yes on a GC2 you can hit a 1500rpm knuckleball and carry it 20 yards farther out of nowhere, not to mention flatter landing angle and more roll. Something to do with over-valuing spin reduction or something. Probably best to find a tm or flightscope to double check

 

Interesting and good to know. I've never seen that, but I'm also not hitting 1500 rpm shots. I'm assuming that issue was addressed with the GCQuad?

 

This is what I was told at my shop... but Armour, your ball speed and other numbers seem to line up better and make sense. If I remember yours were in the high 150s with similar carry to what was previously posted with ball speed in the high 140s. That doesn't make sense... I was in the high 140s about a year ago on trackman and the MOST carry I could muster was 250 yds with a Ping G. Could just be a setting issue on that particular GC2.

[Armour248]

This is what I was told at my shop... but Armour, your ball speed and other numbers seem to line up better and make sense. If I remember yours were in the high 150s with similar carry to what was previously posted with ball speed in the high 140s. That doesn't make sense... I was in the high 140s about a year ago on trackman and the MOST carry I could muster was 250 yds with a Ping G. Could just be a setting issue on that particular GC2.

 

Yeah I was also using a GC2 but the numbers make sense. Makes sense that it's only an issue for really low spin shots.

[B-Nads]

I tried the standard G400 today with the stock shaft - I was very impressed. It seemed like as long as you square up at impact, the ball soars off of any part of the face. I have a monstrous hook when I really go after the ball, and I had very few with this club. I did find that I got a little erratic with it when my swing speed got up closer to my typical, but I think it was due tot he swing weight. I was doing fine with it, then I switched tot he Epic and it took a while to get my swing speed and contact back with the Ping after. Had I not touched another driver, I could be there pumping them straight down the line yet with the Ping - it was a very tough choice to take the Epic over it, but I'm more consistent and longer with the Cally.

[mason82]

I hit one today at PGASS. I love my 917 D3, but this club was effortless. The easier I swing, the better the results. I bought one. Feel and sound was perfect. And I need the compact head.

D

[Nixhex524]

I hit one today at PGASS. I love my 917 D3, but this club was effortless. The easier I swing, the better the results. I bought one. Feel and sound was perfect. And I need the compact head.

D

 

Ooooooooooooo.... interesting. I just bought a 917 D3 (KK TiNi DC 60s), LOL. It was the only other driver that came close to the G400 in terms of ball speed and distance. Also, it seems just as easy to hit in play but I haven't had it on the course yet. I love the looks of the 917 D3, just so classic, but you are right, the G400 can be effortless. I was hitting the G400 to places I have never seen on my home course, but damn WRX, I can't stop trying other drivers!!

[PrettyGood]

Merry Christmas, friends:

 

 

 

 

[sleezyt]

Just ordered a aldila tour blue 75 x for my g400 lstec. Anyone have experience with this shaft? I currently play the tour 65 x shaft and its nice but feel it could be smoother.

[ace036]

What’s the story with the G400 “Max” version above?

[PrettyGood]

What’s the story with the G400 “Max” version above?

 

SFAIK, it's all the G400 tech in a 460cc package.

[Kenny Lee Puckett]

What’s the story with the G400 “Max” version above?

 

SFAIK, it's all the G400 tech in a 460cc package.

correction: not "all".

 

it'll be available in only two lofts. and there are no SF Tec and no LS Tec designated heads.

[PrettyGood]

it'll be available in only two lofts...

 

KLP — will there be a low loft option?

[Kenny Lee Puckett]

it'll be available in only two lofts...

 

KLP — will there be a low loft option?

there's a pretty good chance ;)

[PrettyGood]

there's a pretty good chance ;)

 

LOL — left myself open for that!

 

Hoping for 8.5°/ 10°, and not 10°/12°.

[Kenny Lee Puckett]

there's a pretty good chance ;)

 

LOL — left myself open for that!

 

Hoping for 8.5°/ 10°, and not 10°/12°.

oh believe me, I know the answer of which two it will be. but fwiw clearly you aren't very observant of the photos you like to keep leaking :rolleyes: .

[PrettyGood]

fwiw clearly you aren't very observant of the photos you like to keep leaking :rolleyes:

 

LOL — you win, Kenny!

[smvolkma]

The g400 is a good driver but nothing that is better than anything else. I still think the 16 m2 with the right shaft is as good as anything. I will probably sell my ping.

[Nixhex524]

Just ordered a aldila tour blue 75 x for my g400 lstec. Anyone have experience with this shaft? I currently play the tour 65 x shaft and its nice but feel it could be smoother.

 

I played the Tour Blue stiff in a Fly Z+ a couple years ago and remember LOVING how smooth that shaft was. I would love to hear your opinions once combined with the G400. My Evo 661 is also pretty smooth feeling, terrific combo.

 

The Ping Tour shaft is pretty smooth but from what I remember the Tour Blue will feel smooth and more stable.

[sleezyt]

Just ordered a aldila tour blue 75 x for my g400 lstec. Anyone have experience with this shaft? I currently play the tour 65 x shaft and its nice but feel it could be smoother.

 

I played the Tour Blue stiff in a Fly Z+ a couple years ago and remember LOVING how smooth that shaft was. I would love to hear your opinions once combined with the G400. My Evo 661 is also pretty smooth feeling, terrific combo.

 

The Ping Tour shaft is pretty smooth but from what I remember the Tour Blue will feel smooth and more stable.

 

I will report back with my results and get on a launch monitor for numbers to compare. Ive always got along with aldila shafts. Worth a shot for $60.

[matchavez]

fwiw clearly you aren't very observant of the photos you like to keep leaking :rolleyes:

 

LOL — you win, Kenny!

 

Do the math... it's going to (probably) be the 9 & 10.5...

[DNice26]

Curious what everyone’s head weights are?

 

 

[LoveSick666]

Like weight if the head itself or the small weight in sole or overall swing weight?

[ex0dus]

I think launch monitors are useful when comparing one driver to another on the same monitor but I never take the actual numbers as absolute. I have seen my swing speed show up as 115 on some monitors and I know I am not close to that.

[DNice26]

Like weight if the head itself or the small weight in sole or overall swing weight?

The weight of the head itself. No shaft. Simply take. Off the shaft and weighed in grams.

 

A buddy of mine sent me his and it was 203g.