Tiger vs. Phil in "The Match." **MERGED**

[Holy Moses]

This was about as much trash talking as Phil did all day

[ForeIron]

Shameless exhibition of two cheapskates promoting corporate greed. Next time play with your own $.

 

Wouldn't that describe any modern sporting event? There are a lot of corporate sponsor dollars involved in the weekly PGA tournaments.

 

Yup. The whole "play for your own money" comment is asinine at best. Why would they play for their own money on TV so that others could profit from it? They're bringing the talent and the viewers and they should put up all of the money too? They put in hundreds of thousands to charity as is.

 

I suppose NFL players should pay their own salaries too. I'm yet to hear any rational support for the "Put up your own money" argument. They keep repeating it nonetheless.

 

Many recreational golfers bet with their own money...for once, many would like to see how the pros act when their own money is on the line. Anyone who plays golf (and bets) knows there is a massive difference between playing for someone else's money (ie. member/guest, charity event) and your own wallet.

 

Golfers don't want bifurcation because we want to play the same "game" as the pros (silly, imho, as they play a completely different game!)...so for a change, we would like the see the pros play the same game as us.

 

PS. Give me a rational reason why I'm not paid to volunteer at Riviera every year...what other business gets free labor! They could easily cut the purse by 20% and pay the volunteers - and the golfers would still make plenty of money.

 

Because you keep volunteering to do it for free every year! :D

[fairways4life]

The whole mic'd up thing just never delivers in any sport. We've seen it in football, hockey, and baseball and you rarely hear anything that's even remotely entertaining. It's a shame, because you know there is some good stuff being said out there. Maybe players are a little more reserved when they know they're mic'd up or maybe the networks can't air 95% of what is said because it isn't PG. But in any case, it always seems to be a flop.

[Holy Moses]

The whole mic'd up thing just never delivers in any sport. We've seen it in football, hockey, and baseball and you rarely hear anything that's even remotely entertaining. It's a shame, because you know there is some good stuff being said out there. Maybe players are a little more reserved when they know they're mic'd up or maybe the networks can't air 95% of what is said because it isn't PG. But in any case, it always seems to be a flop.

 

It was PPV so you’d think they could have said anything on the live mics but I guess they were told not to

[doublehans]

Given the fact that the PPV aspect of this match was a disaster with refunds being offered, and the fact that a lot of the match was shown for free on a fairly obscure streaming site, we'll probably never know the actual viewing audience. In any case, the financial bottom line must have been poor. If anyone sees a cogent analysis of this aspect, please post a link.

 

So, today we're seeing that they needed 700,000 or so PPV customers to break even, and everyone is getting their money back. Somebody took a bath on this thing.

 

Likely, but maybe not that bad. The audience was invite only - in Vegas - no doubt the casinos made those invites stategic and very profitable, what a perk to dangle at your high rollers. The corporate sponsor would of course love having Tiger & Phil around too (how much would you have to pay for both Tiger and Phil to show up and do a show for your company). Maybe there are other things associated with this for Phil/Tiger. At the least, a lot of the costs were already covered.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

I didn't watch but from what I've seen here on wrx and from the few friends that watched, it was generally lackluster.

 

The hype to hear trash talk and banter was a big fail. I was hoping see some great and funny commentary during the round from the wrx gang and that was also lackluster...likely because there wasn't much of anything exciting or funny to discuss. It also sounds like the number of bets was limited so another miss.

 

Then the BR fail on ppv. I knew it would be a failure but not in the epic way it failed. I'm guessing some people will be losing their jobs. Wouldn't surprise me if there are some lawsuits. Who ever ran the payment experience failed.

 

[mukster]

This "Match" just cannot go away fast enough.

[manku]

Shameless exhibition of two cheapskates promoting corporate greed. Next time play with your own $.

 

Wouldn't that describe any modern sporting event? There are a lot of corporate sponsor dollars involved in the weekly PGA tournaments.

 

Yup. The whole "play for your own money" comment is asinine at best. Why would they play for their own money on TV so that others could profit from it? They're bringing the talent and the viewers and they should put up all of the money too? They put in hundreds of thousands to charity as is.

 

I suppose NFL players should pay their own salaries too. I'm yet to hear any rational support for the "Put up your own money" argument. They keep repeating it nonetheless.

 

Many recreational golfers bet with their own money...for once, many would like to see how the pros act when their own money is on the line. Anyone who plays golf (and bets) knows there is a massive difference between playing for someone else's money (ie. member/guest, charity event) and your own wallet.

 

Golfers don't want bifurcation because we want to play the same "game" as the pros (silly, imho, as they play a completely different game!)...so for a change, we would like the see the pros play the same game as us.

 

PS. Give me a rational reason why I'm not paid to volunteer at Riviera every year...what other business gets free labor! They could easily cut the purse by 20% and pay the volunteers - and the golfers would still make plenty of money.

 

Because you keep volunteering to do it for free every year! :D

 

And I pay for the privelege! :swoon:

[gatorpedsMD]

when's the next MATCH??

[Holy Moses]

when's the next MATCH??

 

Maybe same time next year with 4 players. Maybe this summer. All depends what the fallout of losing out on the PPV is. We saw what this event could be and the weaknesses. Get 4 interesting players on a slow sports week (right after baseball All Star game), play fourball, have the right announcers, and have actual some trash talk and this event could be pretty interesting. It was a decent start and I’d give this format another chance.

[2putttom]

Shameless exhibition of two cheapskates promoting corporate greed. Next time play with your own $.

There’s always one...

and hopefully this "one" didn't join this site with that agenda.

[ssfranny]

I think its funny that for all the hate on WRX over this "matcch" were now at 50 pages of posts. I knew most on here would likely buy it. Epic fail with PPV cost someone a ton of $$ I had issues with BR Live getting on the pre game and with screen freezing during match. Hope I can get a portion of money back but if not oh well...

[Pleasedwith3putts]

If there is a next time how about turn it into a better ball match and throw Perez and maybe JD into the mix for some proper trash talk.

 

Chuck B doing a roving commentary and some more interesting challenges on the way around. All proceeds to charity.

 

Different kind of event but will still generate large gambling receipts to get a sponsor to put up the charity money and better entertainment value to encourage PPV subscribers.

[TorreyPines]

Lotta words.

 

Bottom line.

 

Couldnt walk in 2018.

 

Ranked #1199

 

Months later. Beats the crap out of everybody and wins the Tour Champ. To the cheers of the masses unseen in memory.

 

Current rank. #13

 

And as a "big TW fan" youre "frustrated"?

 

Lol, have a nice drink and enjoy ; )

 

Well yeah, in terms of the quality of golf this year he's been terrific given all he's gone through, and I've certainly been happy with that. It's the mental part of his game that I'm criticising, as it's undeniable that this has been terrible for a large majority of the last 9 years, and one of the weakest on tour.

 

Performing well in the most clutch situations is pretty much the defining aspect of any athlete I could consider as the GOAT or one of the GOATs in their sport, and post-2009 Tiger is definitely not in this conversation given how dreadfully he's performed in 90% of these big moments (final 1 or 2 rounds of regular tournaments, major weekends etc). Plus the general lack of wins on top of this obviously.

 

I would say that the final round of the Tour Championship was one of his best post '09 efforts in terms of performing under the heat though - he shot 71 but actually struck the ball much better than the score indicated.

 

I'm certainly a big TW fan, but not a TW cheerleader. I love Manchester United too, but I've criticised them heavily over the last 5 years as they've been awful, and this saddens me. I'm generally actually more critical of sportsmen or sports teams that I love because of my desire for them to perform at the best level they're capable of.

[Johnnypenso]

The whole mic'd up thing just never delivers in any sport. We've seen it in football, hockey, and baseball and you rarely hear anything that's even remotely entertaining. It's a shame, because you know there is some good stuff being said out there. Maybe players are a little more reserved when they know they're mic'd up or maybe the networks can't air 95% of what is said because it isn't PG. But in any case, it always seems to be a flop.

I remember the first time I saw a player mic'd up in sports. It was the mid-70's in hockey. Of all the guys you could choose to mic up at that time the NHL chooses Bobby Clarke :stop: of the Philadelphia Flyers. I don't remember how long it took but sooner or later out came an f-bomb and that was the end of the mic'd up experiment in the NHL for quite some time

[2putttom]

The whole mic'd up thing just never delivers in any sport. We've seen it in football, hockey, and baseball and you rarely hear anything that's even remotely entertaining. It's a shame, because you know there is some good stuff being said out there. Maybe players are a little more reserved when they know they're mic'd up or maybe the networks can't air 95% of what is said because it isn't PG. But in any case, it always seems to be a flop.

"mic'ed up " at the World Cup, seems to be well received. Must be a pseudo American thing

[bscinstnct]

Lotta words.

 

Bottom line.

 

Couldnt walk in 2018.

 

Ranked #1199

 

Months later. Beats the crap out of everybody and wins the Tour Champ. To the cheers of the masses unseen in memory.

 

Current rank. #13

 

And as a "big TW fan" youre "frustrated"?

 

Lol, have a nice drink and enjoy ; )

 

Well yeah, in terms of the quality of golf this year he's been terrific given all he's gone through, and I've certainly been happy with that. It's the mental part of his game that I'm criticising, as it's undeniable that this has been terrible for a large majority of the last 9 years, and one of the weakest on tour.

 

Performing well in the most clutch situations is pretty much the defining aspect of any athlete I could consider as the GOAT or one of the GOATs in their sport, and post-2009 Tiger is definitely not in this conversation given how dreadfully he's performed in 90% of these big moments (final 1 or 2 rounds of regular tournaments, major weekends etc). Plus the general lack of wins on top of this obviously.

 

I would say that the final round of the Tour Championship was one of his best post '09 efforts in terms of performing under the heat though - he shot 71 but actually struck the ball much better than the score indicated.

 

I'm certainly a big TW fan, but not a TW cheerleader. I love Manchester United too, but I've criticised them heavily over the last 5 years as they've been awful, and this saddens me. I'm generally actually more critical of sportsmen or sports teams that I love because of my desire for them to perform at the best level they're capable of.

 

Im a fan and cheerleader.

 

But dont think that you or cr have some exclusive insight into TWs faults and declining skills.

 

Maybe you shelter yourself by not "cheerleading" so you arent let down when he does not perform. But, I can assure you that I am fully cognizant of his weaknesses and frustrated when we see...he just aint "that guy" anymore.

 

As are the rest of us 'cheerleaders'

 

Bottom line,

 

TW kicked @ss this year.

 

Hope you enjoyed it ; )

[IVM]

Lotta words.

 

Bottom line.

 

Couldnt walk in 2018.

 

Ranked #1199

 

Months later. Beats the crap out of everybody and wins the Tour Champ. To the cheers of the masses unseen in memory.

 

Current rank. #13

 

And as a "big TW fan" youre "frustrated"?

 

Lol, have a nice drink and enjoy ; )

 

Well yeah, in terms of the quality of golf this year he's been terrific given all he's gone through, and I've certainly been happy with that. It's the mental part of his game that I'm criticising, as it's undeniable that this has been terrible for a large majority of the last 9 years, and one of the weakest on tour.

 

Performing well in the most clutch situations is pretty much the defining aspect of any athlete I could consider as the GOAT or one of the GOATs in their sport, and post-2009 Tiger is definitely not in this conversation given how dreadfully he's performed in 90% of these big moments (final 1 or 2 rounds of regular tournaments, major weekends etc). Plus the general lack of wins on top of this obviously.

 

I would say that the final round of the Tour Championship was one of his best post '09 efforts in terms of performing under the heat though - he shot 71 but actually struck the ball much better than the score indicated.

 

I'm certainly a big TW fan, but not a TW cheerleader. I love Manchester United too, but I've criticised them heavily over the last 5 years as they've been awful, and this saddens me. I'm generally actually more critical of sportsmen or sports teams that I love because of my desire for them to perform at the best level they're capable of.

 

Im a fan and cheerleader.

 

But dont think that you or cr have some exclusive insight into TWs faults and declining skills.

 

Maybe you shelter yourself by not "cheerleading" so you arent let down when he does not perform. But, I can assure you that I am fully cognizant of his weaknesses and frustrated when we see...he just aint "that guy" anymore.

 

As are the rest of us 'cheerleaders'

 

Bottom line,

 

TW kicked @ss this year.

 

Hope you enjoyed it ; )

 

Well said and absolutely true .....

[youdamantiger]

Given the fact that the PPV aspect of this match was a disaster with refunds being offered, and the fact that a lot of the match was shown for free on a fairly obscure streaming site, we'll probably never know the actual viewing audience. In any case, the financial bottom line must have been poor. If anyone sees a cogent analysis of this aspect, please post a link.

 

So, today we're seeing that they needed 700,000 or so PPV customers to break even, and everyone is getting their money back. Somebody took a bath on this thing.

 

Likely, but maybe not that bad. The audience was invite only - in Vegas - no doubt the casinos made those invites stategic and very profitable, what a perk to dangle at your high rollers. The corporate sponsor would of course love having Tiger & Phil around too (how much would you have to pay for both Tiger and Phil to show up and do a show for your company). Maybe there are other things associated with this for Phil/Tiger. At the least, a lot of the costs were already covered.

 

I read that the MGM Grand fronted most of the money for the match to happen. $9 Mil purse, logistics, course prep, etc. And you know they recouped every penny of what they spent on folks making wagers. The only cost the major cable and satellite providers have to eat is whatever they paid the MGM for broadcast rights which, considering the content was not exclusive, probably wasn't all that much.

[dciccoritti]

Well yeah, in terms of the quality of golf this year he's been terrific given all he's gone through, and I've certainly been happy with that. It's the mental part of his game that I'm criticising, as it's undeniable that this has been terrible for a large majority of the last 9 years, and one of the weakest on tour.

 

Performing well in the most clutch situations is pretty much the defining aspect of any athlete I could consider as the GOAT or one of the GOATs in their sport, and post-2009 Tiger is definitely not in this conversation given how dreadfully he's performed in 90% of these big moments (final 1 or 2 rounds of regular tournaments, major weekends etc). Plus the general lack of wins on top of this obviously.

 

I would say that the final round of the Tour Championship was one of his best post '09 efforts in terms of performing under the heat though - he shot 71 but actually struck the ball much better than the score indicated.

 

I'm certainly a big TW fan, but not a TW cheerleader. I love Manchester United too, but I've criticised them heavily over the last 5 years as they've been awful, and this saddens me. I'm generally actually more critical of sportsmen or sports teams that I love because of my desire for them to perform at the best level they're capable of.

 

This post would have been so Cool in standard Helvetica font.

[bladehunter]

Lotta words.

 

Bottom line.

 

Couldnt walk in 2018.

 

Ranked #1199

 

Months later. Beats the crap out of everybody and wins the Tour Champ. To the cheers of the masses unseen in memory.

 

Current rank. #13

 

And as a "big TW fan" youre "frustrated"?

 

Lol, have a nice drink and enjoy ; )

 

Well yeah, in terms of the quality of golf this year he's been terrific given all he's gone through, and I've certainly been happy with that. It's the mental part of his game that I'm criticising, as it's undeniable that this has been terrible for a large majority of the last 9 years, and one of the weakest on tour.

 

Performing well in the most clutch situations is pretty much the defining aspect of any athlete I could consider as the GOAT or one of the GOATs in their sport, and post-2009 Tiger is definitely not in this conversation given how dreadfully he's performed in 90% of these big moments (final 1 or 2 rounds of regular tournaments, major weekends etc). Plus the general lack of wins on top of this obviously.

 

I would say that the final round of the Tour Championship was one of his best post '09 efforts in terms of performing under the heat though - he shot 71 but actually struck the ball much better than the score indicated.

 

I'm certainly a big TW fan, but not a TW cheerleader. I love Manchester United too, but I've criticised them heavily over the last 5 years as they've been awful, and this saddens me. I'm generally actually more critical of sportsmen or sports teams that I love because of my desire for them to perform at the best level they're capable of.

 

Im a fan and cheerleader.

 

But dont think that you or cr have some exclusive insight into TWs faults and declining skills.

 

Maybe you shelter yourself by not "cheerleading" so you arent let down when he does not perform. But, I can assure you that I am fully cognizant of his weaknesses and frustrated when we see...he just aint "that guy" anymore.

 

As are the rest of us 'cheerleaders'

 

Bottom line,

 

TW kicked @ss this year.

 

Hope you enjoyed it ; )

 

1000 % my thoughts ^^.

 

Being a fan but not cheering has to be a diagnosable disorder . To each their own. But just seems quite strange to claim to be a fan of anything. And yet not be a supporter. I get it if its the Cleveland Browns. At some point you have to go nuts and rebuild . But I see it in college football a lot. Tennessee and Florida fans are prime examples. Don’t contend for an sec title. You’re fired. Let’s not think about the fact that the revolving coach door is what kills recruiting. And recruiting is what wins championships.

 

Point being. If this year wasn’t an amazing success for a 40 something coming off back fusion I don’t know what could be. Pointing out rough edges or inconsistencies compared to the success of this year is a bit like complaining that the 4 ct diamond you just found in the couch cushions “ Isn’t quite clear “. For Pete’s sakes. At some point you’re either a fan or you’re not. If this year wasn’t a success in your mind , you can’t really call yourself “ fan “ anymore. You’re downgraded to “ pessimistic former fan “.

 

That’s not saying we can’t discuss things that. An be improved. But while doing that the present success must be celebrated as well. That’s something I’ve yet to hear from any of the pseudo fans . Mysteriously quiet they were during Eastlake. Only to reappear after the Ryder cup. Coincidence? Nope.

[farmer]

I've been on the sidelines for football games. Having a player with a live mic, no tape delay, would cause tv sets to melt. Might be the same thing for Phil and Tiger.

[Holy Moses]

So the B-N servers couldn't keep up with all the demand for The Match and that's why there were issues getting the feed. At least that shows that The Match was pretty popular.

[bscinstnct]

Lotta words.

 

Bottom line.

 

Couldnt walk in 2018.

 

Ranked #1199

 

Months later. Beats the crap out of everybody and wins the Tour Champ. To the cheers of the masses unseen in memory.

 

Current rank. #13

 

And as a "big TW fan" youre "frustrated"?

 

Lol, have a nice drink and enjoy ; )

 

Well yeah, in terms of the quality of golf this year he's been terrific given all he's gone through, and I've certainly been happy with that. It's the mental part of his game that I'm criticising, as it's undeniable that this has been terrible for a large majority of the last 9 years, and one of the weakest on tour.

 

Performing well in the most clutch situations is pretty much the defining aspect of any athlete I could consider as the GOAT or one of the GOATs in their sport, and post-2009 Tiger is definitely not in this conversation given how dreadfully he's performed in 90% of these big moments (final 1 or 2 rounds of regular tournaments, major weekends etc). Plus the general lack of wins on top of this obviously.

 

I would say that the final round of the Tour Championship was one of his best post '09 efforts in terms of performing under the heat though - he shot 71 but actually struck the ball much better than the score indicated.

 

I'm certainly a big TW fan, but not a TW cheerleader. I love Manchester United too, but I've criticised them heavily over the last 5 years as they've been awful, and this saddens me. I'm generally actually more critical of sportsmen or sports teams that I love because of my desire for them to perform at the best level they're capable of.

 

Im a fan and cheerleader.

 

But dont think that you or cr have some exclusive insight into TWs faults and declining skills.

 

Maybe you shelter yourself by not "cheerleading" so you arent let down when he does not perform. But, I can assure you that I am fully cognizant of his weaknesses and frustrated when we see...he just aint "that guy" anymore.

 

As are the rest of us 'cheerleaders'

 

Bottom line,

 

TW kicked @ss this year.

 

Hope you enjoyed it ; )

 

1000 % my thoughts ^^.

 

Being a fan but not cheering has to be a diagnosable disorder . To each their own. But just seems quite strange to claim to be a fan of anything. And yet not be a supporter. I get it if its the Cleveland Browns. At some point you have to go nuts and rebuild . But I see it in college football a lot. Tennessee and Florida fans are prime examples. Don’t contend for an sec title. You’re fired. Let’s not think about the fact that the revolving coach door is what kills recruiting. And recruiting is what wins championships.

 

Point being. If this year wasn’t an amazing success for a 40 something coming off back fusion I don’t know what could be. Pointing out rough edges or inconsistencies compared to the success of this year is a bit like complaining that the 4 ct diamond you just found in the couch cushions “ Isn’t quite clear “. For Pete’s sakes. At some point you’re either a fan or you’re not. If this year wasn’t a success in your mind , you can’t really call yourself “ fan “ anymore. You’re downgraded to “ pessimistic former fan “.

 

That’s not saying we can’t discuss things that. An be improved. But while doing that the present success must be celebrated as well. That’s something I’ve yet to hear from any of the pseudo fans . Mysteriously quiet they were during Eastlake. Only to reappear after the Ryder cup. Coincidence? Nope.

 

Is like this,

 

TW cant beat the young guns. His time is passed

 

Oh, well, he came in 20th. Folded on Saturday as I thought he would.

 

Yes, well, he came in 2nd, but his mental state is weak. He folded on Sunday, just as I thought he would.

 

<TW wins>

 

I have to go fishing in Madagascar.

 

; )

[bladehunter]

Bingo ^

;)

[new2g0lf]

The whole mic'd up thing just never delivers in any sport. We've seen it in football, hockey, and baseball and you rarely hear anything that's even remotely entertaining. It's a shame, because you know there is some good stuff being said out there. Maybe players are a little more reserved when they know they're mic'd up or maybe the networks can't air 95% of what is said because it isn't PG. But in any case, it always seems to be a flop.

 

I agree, in football you at least get some moments where the guy gets caught up in the heat of the moment and says something without realizing he's mic'd, those moments are less frequent in golf except for the occasional f bomb. For some reason they were very reserved during the Match, Phil's brother even joked that he was whispering profanities so they didn't get picked up on mic and that he wanted to use profanity once, he didn't seem to understand why they weren't since it was PPV, Phil told him not to. .

[new2g0lf]

Lotta words.

 

Bottom line.

 

Couldnt walk in 2018.

 

Ranked #1199

 

Months later. Beats the crap out of everybody and wins the Tour Champ. To the cheers of the masses unseen in memory.

 

Current rank. #13

 

And as a "big TW fan" youre "frustrated"?

 

Lol, have a nice drink and enjoy ; )

 

Well yeah, in terms of the quality of golf this year he's been terrific given all he's gone through, and I've certainly been happy with that. It's the mental part of his game that I'm criticising, as it's undeniable that this has been terrible for a large majority of the last 9 years, and one of the weakest on tour.

 

Performing well in the most clutch situations is pretty much the defining aspect of any athlete I could consider as the GOAT or one of the GOATs in their sport, and post-2009 Tiger is definitely not in this conversation given how dreadfully he's performed in 90% of these big moments (final 1 or 2 rounds of regular tournaments, major weekends etc). Plus the general lack of wins on top of this obviously.

 

I would say that the final round of the Tour Championship was one of his best post '09 efforts in terms of performing under the heat though - he shot 71 but actually struck the ball much better than the score indicated.

 

I'm certainly a big TW fan, but not a TW cheerleader. I love Manchester United too, but I've criticised them heavily over the last 5 years as they've been awful, and this saddens me. I'm generally actually more critical of sportsmen or sports teams that I love because of my desire for them to perform at the best level they're capable of.

 

Im a fan and cheerleader.

 

But dont think that you or cr have some exclusive insight into TWs faults and declining skills.

 

Maybe you shelter yourself by not "cheerleading" so you arent let down when he does not perform. But, I can assure you that I am fully cognizant of his weaknesses and frustrated when we see...he just aint "that guy" anymore.

 

As are the rest of us 'cheerleaders'

 

Bottom line,

 

TW kicked @ss this year.

 

Hope you enjoyed it ; )

 

1000 % my thoughts ^^.

 

Being a fan but not cheering has to be a diagnosable disorder . To each their own. But just seems quite strange to claim to be a fan of anything. And yet not be a supporter. I get it if its the Cleveland Browns. At some point you have to go nuts and rebuild . But I see it in college football a lot. Tennessee and Florida fans are prime examples. Don't contend for an sec title. You're fired. Let's not think about the fact that the revolving coach door is what kills recruiting. And recruiting is what wins championships.

 

Point being. If this year wasn't an amazing success for a 40 something coming off back fusion I don't know what could be. Pointing out rough edges or inconsistencies compared to the success of this year is a bit like complaining that the 4 ct diamond you just found in the couch cushions " Isn't quite clear ". For Pete's sakes. At some point you're either a fan or you're not. If this year wasn't a success in your mind , you can't really call yourself " fan " anymore. You're downgraded to " pessimistic former fan ".

 

That's not saying we can't discuss things that. An be improved. But while doing that the present success must be celebrated as well. That's something I've yet to hear from any of the pseudo fans . Mysteriously quiet they were during Eastlake. Only to reappear after the Ryder cup. Coincidence? Nope.

 

Great post, many people don't realize how difficult it is to win on the PGA Tour. It's no small feat to beat one of the top 150 golfers in the world on any given day, no less being 40 and coming back from numerous back surgeries. A lot of guys I know that hate Tiger are Phil fans, they resent Tiger stole numerous wins, especially Majors from him and prevented him from ever reaching #1 in world rankings. I am a big fan of Tiger and Phil, both were great for golf but unfortunately for Phil, Tiger was just better.

 

Jack was great for golf, especially as an ambassador but the golf world was different when he played, Tiger made golf a household discussion, he inspired people, especially minorities to watch and play golf. Today he's an inspiration for anyone who has had difficulties in life, suffered health problems and is over 40. He may not have dominated the Tour like he once did, but there's only 7 guys on Tour that had a better year, that's pretty amazing for a guy that wasn't sure he could play again.

[deadsolid...shank]

Interesting Morning Drive this morning, talking about this match, and other possible future matchups.

 

Ron Sirak had the best idea, the low handicap male golfer against an LPGA player. That would generate as much talk here as the original match did.

[bogeypro]

For everyone saying the golf wasn't that great let's give some credit to the course. That course looks very challenging and those greens were very firm and had lots of subtle breaks to them. I don't see a sub -20 total winning score there @a pga event. The course is 7560 yards too! The last shot 100% should have been 17 lit up though. That 90 yarder was dumb.

 

I think you're wrong. That course doesn't play that long thanks to the doglegs and short rough. Pros would eat it up. It's a resort course. Honestly, it looked like my home course here on RTJ trail in Alabama. Very similar style course.

 

TEE 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 OUT 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 IN TOT YDS 415 435 486 581 202 507 571 200 460 3857 437 324 405 257 493 482 622 154 529 3703 7560

 

no way in hell esp if they play 18 as a long par four at like 500 yds.

 

ur a +2, i would put 100.00 u don't break par there with the greens running as hard and fast as yesterday.

 

I guarantee that your 100 would be safe! ?? I barely break par at my home course.

[bogeypro]

Interesting Morning Drive this morning, talking about this match, and other possible future matchups.

 

Ron Sirak had the best idea, the low handicap male golfer against an LPGA player. That would generate as much talk here as the original match did.

 

I saw that too. I think it’s a great idea. Would give an idea of how good the lpga really is. I’ve been to lpga tournaments.. those women can flat play.