New Wilson CorTex driver

[QuigleyDU]

i said this yesterday. Rick Sheils should have dropped his review of the club the instant it hit the shelves. i feel he being a judge, he has a bit of personal accountability (maybe not the right word) to this driver. if it fails he fails in a sense. again, i hit this driver side by side against the TS3, rogue and Ping G400 max and found it lacking.

 

I am going to work again tomorrow and i am going to fiddle with it some more and see if i can find something that works.

[Golfer from MO]

You know what, this thing looks good as mentioned before. It also as mentioned is pricey for perception...and dollar for dollar has a higher relative depreciation rate, which for this community is a factor. Logic dictates we wait a few winter months to buy low on secondary markets. If this qaulity keeps up, we will shift to primary market early adapters as we do.

 

Its reminded me tho of how well the c300 did and perhaps a mess around club

[Golfer from MO]

i said this yesterday. Rick Sheils should have dropped his review of the club the instant it hit the shelves. i feel he being a judge, he has a bit of personal accountability (maybe not the right word) to this driver. if it fails he fails in a sense. again, i hit this driver side by side against the TS3, rogue and Ping G400 max and found it lacking.

 

I am going to work again tomorrow and i am going to fiddle with it some more and see if i can find something that works.

 

Lacking how? Poor words to use without qauntification

[coreyl]

If you're someone who thinks Wilson doesn't make good golf products - you haven't been paying attention. The one place IMO that they have really been lagging behind is their woods/drivers so IMO this show/informercial is a way to keep trying to pump up their brand.

 

IMO the best thing Wilson could do would be to immediately get this driver in the hands of some forum moderators/members testers, get some product into the field, like right now. Dont let it sit on the shelves. And yes, its the reason Rick Shiels was on the show IMO. But find the top five forums, send them each a dozen drivers. Send the top five YouTube reviewers the driver. Today. Get practical, real person reviews of this product online, right now.

 

But - if I had to guess, this probably wont happen. What would...50-60 drivers cost Wilson, actual cost to them? Nothing. But you get your product in the field immediately. For a company that needs all the real world press they can get - especially at this price point - this seems like a no brainer to me.

 

Its also maybe the reason I dont work for a golf OEM lol.

 

I think you just laid out Srixon's marketing plan for the 585/785 driver this season. They did everything you just mentioned, plus they offered awesome no-upcharge shafts for the first month and offered a ridiculous deal to program partners to get the driver out there.

[QuigleyDU]

i said this yesterday. Rick Sheils should have dropped his review of the club the instant it hit the shelves. i feel he being a judge, he has a bit of personal accountability (maybe not the right word) to this driver. if it fails he fails in a sense. again, i hit this driver side by side against the TS3, rogue and Ping G400 max and found it lacking.

 

I am going to work again tomorrow and i am going to fiddle with it some more and see if i can find something that works.

 

Lacking how? Poor words to use without qauntification

 

lacking feel, lacking distance, lacking over all performance compared to top shelf drivers.

[realitycheck]

i said this yesterday. Rick Sheils should have dropped his review of the club the instant it hit the shelves. i feel he being a judge, he has a bit of personal accountability (maybe not the right word) to this driver. if it fails he fails in a sense. again, i hit this driver side by side against the TS3, rogue and Ping G400 max and found it lacking.

 

I am going to work again tomorrow and i am going to fiddle with it some more and see if i can find something that works.

 

Fiddle with it. I tried it against the aforementioned also, and found it to be CRAZY good. Great directional control, and exceptional feel.

Your mileage may vary

[QuigleyDU]

i said this yesterday. Rick Sheils should have dropped his review of the club the instant it hit the shelves. i feel he being a judge, he has a bit of personal accountability (maybe not the right word) to this driver. if it fails he fails in a sense. again, i hit this driver side by side against the TS3, rogue and Ping G400 max and found it lacking.

 

I am going to work again tomorrow and i am going to fiddle with it some more and see if i can find something that works.

 

Fiddle with it. I tried it against the aforementioned also, and found it to be CRAZY good. Great directional control, and exceptional feel.

Your mileage may vary

 

did you buy it?

[ajs72287]

If you're someone who thinks Wilson doesn't make good golf products - you haven't been paying attention. The one place IMO that they have really been lagging behind is their woods/drivers so IMO this show/informercial is a way to keep trying to pump up their brand.

 

IMO the best thing Wilson could do would be to immediately get this driver in the hands of some forum moderators/members testers, get some product into the field, like right now. Dont let it sit on the shelves. And yes, its the reason Rick Shiels was on the show IMO. But find the top five forums, send them each a dozen drivers. Send the top five YouTube reviewers the driver. Today. Get practical, real person reviews of this product online, right now.

 

But - if I had to guess, this probably wont happen. What would...50-60 drivers cost Wilson, actual cost to them? Nothing. But you get your product in the field immediately. For a company that needs all the real world press they can get - especially at this price point - this seems like a no brainer to me.

 

Its also maybe the reason I dont work for a golf OEM lol.

I echo this statement ten fold. It's a great looking driving with a premium shaft and it's generated 7+ weeks of buzz via the show. BUT at the end of the day, it still says Wilson on it. Now Wilson makes some top notch stuff...don't get me wrong. I'm a die hard golf junkie and buying something Wilson would never cross my mind UNLESS it's been raved about on this site, youtube, etc. and I'd say the same goes for an equipment novice who probably buys based on tour player usage or extreme marketing hype. What better way to get some solid on and of course comparisons to market/hype product that will get blasted across the web?! Worst case scenario...it costs Wilson a few thousand dollars, slightly under performs compared to competitors, and still gets tons of buzz via discussion. Sounds like a win/win to me!

[GoGoErky]

Looks ok. Would never pick this over Ping/Cally/TMAG at that price point, tho.

here are your options and their price point:

M3 $499.99

M4 $429.99

M5 $549.99

M6 $499.99

G400 $299

G400 MAX $399

G410 $499

ROGUE $399.99

EPIC FLASH $529.99

WILSON C300 $399

WILSON CORTEX $499

COBRA F8 $299

COBRA F9 not sure on retail $$

TS2/3 $499.99

By making the stock shaft the ATMOS tour spec shaft makes it a better value than some of these other drivers. most of these drivers with the Atmos tour spec shafts are a minimum of a $100 upcharge.

 

Most of those companies are offering real deal aftermarket shafts as stock including the newly released ef white and hzrdus smoke

yes they are but the 2 you mentioned are not the handcrafted shafts which would be the better deal if they would offer those at no up charge. Srixon offer HC HZRDUS at no up charge.

 

They aren’t handcrafted because PX isn’t making them in handcrafted due to demand. They’ve also moved their handcrafted dept to China. HC versions are no different than the mass produced versions. Same design and same specs.

[Rig14Port]

i said this yesterday. Rick Sheils should have dropped his review of the club the instant it hit the shelves. i feel he being a judge, he has a bit of personal accountability (maybe not the right word) to this driver. if it fails he fails in a sense. again, i hit this driver side by side against the TS3, rogue and Ping G400 max and found it lacking.

 

I am going to work again tomorrow and i am going to fiddle with it some more and see if i can find something that works.

 

I've been checking youtube every few hours to see if this review has dropped. We may need to consider that everyone that follows RS knows his numbers with other major OEM's equipment and we can easily compare performance between recent drivers he's tested. Maybe this thing isn't anywhere close in performance and they don't want us to see it.

[Rig14Port]

Looks ok. Would never pick this over Ping/Cally/TMAG at that price point, tho.

here are your options and their price point:

M3 $499.99

M4 $429.99

M5 $549.99

M6 $499.99

G400 $299

G400 MAX $399

G410 $499

ROGUE $399.99

EPIC FLASH $529.99

WILSON C300 $399

WILSON CORTEX $499

COBRA F8 $299

COBRA F9 not sure on retail $$

TS2/3 $499.99

By making the stock shaft the ATMOS tour spec shaft makes it a better value than some of these other drivers. most of these drivers with the Atmos tour spec shafts are a minimum of a $100 upcharge.

 

Most of those companies are offering real deal aftermarket shafts as stock including the newly released ef white and hzrdus smoke

yes they are but the 2 you mentioned are not the handcrafted shafts which would be the better deal if they would offer those at no up charge. Srixon offer HC HZRDUS at no up charge.

 

They aren't handcrafted because PX isn't making them in handcrafted due to demand. They've also moved their handcrafted dept to China. HC versions are no different than the mass produced versions. Same design and same specs.

 

PX gonna have to start stamping TX on their premium shafts if they want top dollar now that handcrafted is history

[GoGoErky]

Based on what i am reading in this thread it is impossible for Wilson to build a good driver and the price point is way off lol.

 

The Atmos Tour spec shaft that i have in my Rogue was a 350 dollar up-charge in Canada. If this is in fact a real deal tour spec Fujikura and it retails in the 600 dollar cdn range then the price comparisons in this thread are slightly misleading. My Rogue in Canada with the Atmos shaft was 1K plus tax. (stock is about 650 cdn)

So the price point seems right based on the value of the shaft. Without the high end shaft then i would agree that 399 cdn would be more reasonable... then again everything up here seems to be 600 plus. If it performs i will take a serious look at it.

 

Wilson or any other brand doesn’t pay what we pay for aftermarket shafts when they order in bulk especially if it’s going to be a stock offering. That $300 US drops plenty when being ordered in the thousands

[QuigleyDU]

Based on what i am reading in this thread it is impossible for Wilson to build a good driver and the price point is way off lol.

 

The Atmos Tour spec shaft that i have in my Rogue was a 350 dollar up-charge in Canada. If this is in fact a real deal tour spec Fujikura and it retails in the 600 dollar cdn range then the price comparisons in this thread are slightly misleading. My Rogue in Canada with the Atmos shaft was 1K plus tax. (stock is about 650 cdn)

So the price point seems right based on the value of the shaft. Without the high end shaft then i would agree that 399 cdn would be more reasonable... then again everything up here seems to be 600 plus. If it performs i will take a serious look at it.

 

Wilson or any other brand doesn't pay what we pay for aftermarket shafts when they order in bulk especially if it's going to be a stock offering. That $300 US drops plenty when being ordered in the thousands

 

after hitting the cortex yesterday i am not sure that i am a fan of the atmos shaft.. i am going to give it another go tomorrow, take some notes and launch monitor picture and report back. i said it sucked out load after my initial trial but want to give it a fair go. Maybe i was just off.

 

my only problem is today is leg day at the gym... cant skip leg day...

[Holy Moses]

Looks ok. Would never pick this over Ping/Cally/TMAG at that price point, tho.

here are your options and their price point:

M3 $499.99

M4 $429.99

M5 $549.99

M6 $499.99

G400 $299

G400 MAX $399

G410 $499

ROGUE $399.99

EPIC FLASH $529.99

WILSON C300 $399

WILSON CORTEX $499

COBRA F8 $299

COBRA F9 not sure on retail $$

TS2/3 $499.99

By making the stock shaft the ATMOS tour spec shaft makes it a better value than some of these other drivers. most of these drivers with the Atmos tour spec shafts are a minimum of a $100 upcharge.

 

Most of those companies are offering real deal aftermarket shafts as stock including the newly released ef white and hzrdus smoke

yes they are but the 2 you mentioned are not the handcrafted shafts which would be the better deal if they would offer those at no up charge. Srixon offer HC HZRDUS at no up charge.

 

They aren’t handcrafted because PX isn’t making them in handcrafted due to demand. They’ve also moved their handcrafted dept to China. HC versions are no different than the mass produced versions. Same design and same specs.

 

Not true. Listen to the recent WRX podcast.

[Steve o]

only lefty option is 10.5°........and $499.........no thanks

 

Cradd-

 

After what Wilson did in 2014 in regards to NO LH FG Tour 100 Forged irons, lets just say am no longer a fan.

 

..no "Centennial" models?

 

Wow, 2014. Long time to hold a grudge.

[Steve o]

Based on what i am reading in this thread it is impossible for Wilson to build a good driver and the price point is way off lol.

 

The Atmos Tour spec shaft that i have in my Rogue was a 350 dollar up-charge in Canada. If this is in fact a real deal tour spec Fujikura and it retails in the 600 dollar cdn range then the price comparisons in this thread are slightly misleading. My Rogue in Canada with the Atmos shaft was 1K plus tax. (stock is about 650 cdn)

So the price point seems right based on the value of the shaft. Without the high end shaft then i would agree that 399 cdn would be more reasonable... then again everything up here seems to be 600 plus. If it performs i will take a serious look at it.

 

Wilson or any other brand doesn't pay what we pay for aftermarket shafts when they order in bulk especially if it's going to be a stock offering. That $300 US drops plenty when being ordered in the thousands

 

after hitting the cortex yesterday i am not sure that i am a fan of the atmos shaft.. i am going to give it another go tomorrow, take some notes and launch monitor picture and report back. i said it sucked out load after my initial trial but want to give it a fair go. Maybe i was just off.

 

my only problem is today is leg day at the gym... cant skip leg day...

So you go from shredding this driver several times in this thread to now deciding it might be you. Not every club or shaft is for everyone. Its ok to like it or not like it. Enjoy leg day.

[reqq]

I hit this driver at work. It is straight trash.... it is 30 yard shorter than the ts3. These are not going to sell at all.. I feel kinda bad for Wilson.

 

Sorry no new driver is that bad. Wilsons engineers isnt some random hobos they picked up on the street mate. Mishit, bad fitting, etc :)

[cz13X4]

i'd be more than happy to bang this around for wilson....my fg59's could use some company

[QuigleyDU]

Based on what i am reading in this thread it is impossible for Wilson to build a good driver and the price point is way off lol.

 

The Atmos Tour spec shaft that i have in my Rogue was a 350 dollar up-charge in Canada. If this is in fact a real deal tour spec Fujikura and it retails in the 600 dollar cdn range then the price comparisons in this thread are slightly misleading. My Rogue in Canada with the Atmos shaft was 1K plus tax. (stock is about 650 cdn)

So the price point seems right based on the value of the shaft. Without the high end shaft then i would agree that 399 cdn would be more reasonable... then again everything up here seems to be 600 plus. If it performs i will take a serious look at it.

 

Wilson or any other brand doesn't pay what we pay for aftermarket shafts when they order in bulk especially if it's going to be a stock offering. That $300 US drops plenty when being ordered in the thousands

 

after hitting the cortex yesterday i am not sure that i am a fan of the atmos shaft.. i am going to give it another go tomorrow, take some notes and launch monitor picture and report back. i said it sucked out load after my initial trial but want to give it a fair go. Maybe i was just off.

 

my only problem is today is leg day at the gym... cant skip leg day...

So you go from shredding this driver several times in this thread to now deciding it might be you. Not every club or shaft is for everyone. Its ok to like it or not like it. Enjoy leg day.

 

oh no, i think it is the driver. that is the honest truth. i am just going to give it one more try. i hit the rogue, and Ts3 just fine yesterday. i am going to do it and post all the numbers to either validate or discredit myself i guess. regardless of all those like you that will stand here and say that it is me and not the driver i doubt any of you will be pulling out your wallet on this one. so dont feign disgust when i give my honest initial opinion.

[QuigleyDU]

I hit this driver at work. It is straight trash.... it is 30 yard shorter than the ts3. These are not going to sell at all.. I feel kinda bad for Wilson.

 

Sorry no new driver is that bad. Wilsons engineers isnt some random hobos they picked up on the street mate. Mishit, bad fitting, etc :)

 

meh, we shall see... i was not the only one hitting it and no one was impressed. as i said the store only ordered 6, we have 40 rogues on the rack right now. so you do the math and see where the owner is putting his money on what will sell.

[roadtrippin4550]

This thing actually looks much better than the renderings they released earlier, and I liked it then. Will I spend $500 on a Wilson driver that will depreciate faster than my car? No way. Would I give it a serious consideration if it were $400 vs The Epic Flash at $530? You bet. Like the deep face, the overall shape, and color though.

 

If it works the best why does it matter that it is $499 vs the Epic Flash at $499? So far, I've heard some good things as far as performance.

[Rig14Port]

They aren't handcrafted because PX isn't making them in handcrafted due to demand. They've also moved their handcrafted dept to China. HC versions are no different than the mass produced versions. Same design and same specs.

 

Not true. Listen to the recent WRX podcast.

 

Haven't listened but after the TS2/ TS3 podcast can we really trust these guys?

 

There was a quote in a forum recently from a PX rep that the "handcrafted production" could not keep up with demand and, therefore, PX would be moving all production to China. The San Diego facility would be used strictly for R&D and Prototyping.

[AzSuperHack76]

They aren't handcrafted because PX isn't making them in handcrafted due to demand. They've also moved their handcrafted dept to China. HC versions are no different than the mass produced versions. Same design and same specs.

 

Not true. Listen to the recent WRX podcast.

 

Haven't listened but after the TS2/ TS3 podcast can we really trust these guys?

 

There was a quote in a forum recently from a PX rep that the "handcrafted production" could not keep up with demand and, therefore, PX would be moving all production to China. The San Diego facility would be used strictly for R&D and Prototyping.

 

What happened with the TS2/TS3 podcast? Thanks.

[GoGoErky]

 

Haven't listened but after the TS2/ TS3 podcast can we really trust these guys?

 

There was a quote in a forum recently from a PX rep that the "handcrafted production" could not keep up with demand and, therefore, PX would be moving all production to China. The San Diego facility would be used strictly for R&D and Prototyping.

 

It was don brown from px who state that as well as the smoke and white not being offered in hc versions. He posted it on a couple forums the same day and I have a pm from him wuthbthe same info. There were hc versions of the white on tour but that’s it

[Holy Moses]

 

Haven't listened but after the TS2/ TS3 podcast can we really trust these guys?

 

There was a quote in a forum recently from a PX rep that the "handcrafted production" could not keep up with demand and, therefore, PX would be moving all production to China. The San Diego facility would be used strictly for R&D and Prototyping.

 

It was don brown from px who state that as well as the smoke and white not being offered in hc versions. He posted it on a couple forums the same day and I have a pm from him wuthbthe same info. There were hc versions of the white on tour but that’s it

 

I misunderstood. I thought the poster was talking about and PX handcrafted model.

[radiman]

This thing actually looks much better than the renderings they released earlier, and I liked it then. Will I spend $500 on a Wilson driver that will depreciate faster than my car? No way. Would I give it a serious consideration if it were $400 vs The Epic Flash at $530? You bet. Like the deep face, the overall shape, and color though.

 

If it works the best why does it matter that it is $499 vs the Epic Flash at $499? So far, I've heard some good things as far as performance.

 

The only review I have seen here has been someone claiming that it felt bad and was significantly shorter than other models. Also, as I mentioned in a previous post. I won't have a real idea how a driver will work for me until a purchase has been made and I have it on the course. If I am going to drop $500 on a club, I have to have some sort of resale value to recoup as much of my cost as I can. I just don't see Cortex retaining that value.

 

I hope I am wrong. I hope it sells well. I want as much top tier competition out there as possible. I just think they should have taken a similar stance as Tour Edge did. They are trying to gain market share. They are doing that by offering drivers with all of the newest "tech" at a lower price point. I personally think this iteration could have been introduced at a lower price point to "re-introduce" the brand. Get people on board, gain some momentum before you go top tier pricing.

[Joker91]

Based on what i am reading in this thread it is impossible for Wilson to build a good driver and the price point is way off lol.

 

The Atmos Tour spec shaft that i have in my Rogue was a 350 dollar up-charge in Canada. If this is in fact a real deal tour spec Fujikura and it retails in the 600 dollar cdn range then the price comparisons in this thread are slightly misleading. My Rogue in Canada with the Atmos shaft was 1K plus tax. (stock is about 650 cdn)

So the price point seems right based on the value of the shaft. Without the high end shaft then i would agree that 399 cdn would be more reasonable... then again everything up here seems to be 600 plus. If it performs i will take a serious look at it.

 

Wilson or any other brand doesn't pay what we pay for aftermarket shafts when they order in bulk especially if it's going to be a stock offering. That $300 US drops plenty when being ordered in the thousands

 

after hitting the cortex yesterday i am not sure that i am a fan of the atmos shaft.. i am going to give it another go tomorrow, take some notes and launch monitor picture and report back. i said it sucked out load after my initial trial but want to give it a fair go. Maybe i was just off.

 

my only problem is today is leg day at the gym... cant skip leg day...

So you go from shredding this driver several times in this thread to now deciding it might be you. Not every club or shaft is for everyone. Its ok to like it or not like it. Enjoy leg day.

 

oh no, i think it is the driver. that is the honest truth. i am just going to give it one more try. i hit the rogue, and Ts3 just fine yesterday. i am going to do it and post all the numbers to either validate or discredit myself i guess. regardless of all those like you that will stand here and say that it is me and not the driver i doubt any of you will be pulling out your wallet on this one. so dont fain disgust when i give my honest initial opinion.

You haven't pulled out your wallet either

[Joker91]

Got a chance to hit it at Golf Town during lunch hour. Sound is amazing. Feel is amazing. The head at address is beautiful.

 

Since it was a driver for a sale, and not a demo head, I didn't adjust it a lot not to damage anything, so it was not optimized for me (spin was too high), but it was already going farther than my M2.

 

With the right adjustments, that thing will be a really great driver for anyone who decide to give it a shot.

 

The only review I have seen here has been someone claiming that it felt bad and was significantly shorter than other models. Also, as I mentioned in a previous post. I won't have a real idea how a driver will work for me until a purchase has been made and I have it on the course. If I am going to drop $500 on a club, I have to have some sort of resale value to recoup as much of my cost as I can. I just don't see Cortex retaining that value.

 

I hope I am wrong. I hope it sells well. I want as much top tier competition out there as possible. I just think they should have taken a similar stance as Tour Edge did. They are trying to gain market share. They are doing that by offering drivers with all of the newest "tech" at a lower price point. I personally think this iteration could have been introduced at a lower price point to "re-introduce" the brand. Get people on board, gain some momentum before you go top tier pricing.

 

Look harder

[nsxguy]

 

Wilson or any other brand doesn't pay what we pay for aftermarket shafts when they order in bulk especially if it's going to be a stock offering. That $300 US drops plenty when being ordered in the thousands

 

after hitting the cortex yesterday i am not sure that i am a fan of the atmos shaft.. i am going to give it another go tomorrow, take some notes and launch monitor picture and report back. i said it sucked out load after my initial trial but want to give it a fair go. Maybe i was just off.

 

my only problem is today is leg day at the gym... cant skip leg day...

So you go from shredding this driver several times in this thread to now deciding it might be you. Not every club or shaft is for everyone. Its ok to like it or not like it. Enjoy leg day.

 

oh no, i think it is the driver. that is the honest truth. i am just going to give it one more try. i hit the rogue, and Ts3 just fine yesterday. i am going to do it and post all the numbers to either validate or discredit myself i guess. regardless of all those like you that will stand here and say that it is me and not the driver i doubt any of you will be pulling out your wallet on this one. so dont fain disgust when i give my honest initial opinion.

You haven't pulled out your wallet either

 

He doesn't like it thus far. Why would he pull out his wallet ?

[radiman]

Got a chance to hit it at Golf Town during lunch hour. Sound is amazing. Feel is amazing. The head at address is beautiful.

 

Since it was a driver for a sale, and not a demo head, I didn't adjust it a lot not to damage anything, so it was not optimized for me (spin was too high), but it was already going farther than my M2.

 

With the right adjustments, that thing will be a really great driver for anyone who decide to give it a shot.

 

The only review I have seen here has been someone claiming that it felt bad and was significantly shorter than other models. Also, as I mentioned in a previous post. I won't have a real idea how a driver will work for me until a purchase has been made and I have it on the course. If I am going to drop $500 on a club, I have to have some sort of resale value to recoup as much of my cost as I can. I just don't see Cortex retaining that value.

 

I hope I am wrong. I hope it sells well. I want as much top tier competition out there as possible. I just think they should have taken a similar stance as Tour Edge did. They are trying to gain market share. They are doing that by offering drivers with all of the newest "tech" at a lower price point. I personally think this iteration could have been introduced at a lower price point to "re-introduce" the brand. Get people on board, gain some momentum before you go top tier pricing.

 

Look harder

 

Lol, alright man. Thanks, so it's 50/50. Is this Tim Clarke??