2019 Ping Blueprint Irons - New in hand photos

bladehunter · April 22, 2019

> @"Seth Pistol" said:

> easyyy wrote:

>

> I am thinking 4-6 i500 retro lofts and then 7-pw Blueprint. Might do the 6 iron in Blueprint.

>

> thinking the same exact thing

Having played i500 for months now , Easyyy is dead on. These will combo perfectly with i500.

towncryer · April 22, 2019

> @bladehunter said:

> > @"Seth Pistol" said:

> > easyyy wrote:

> >

> > I am thinking 4-6 i500 retro lofts and then 7-pw Blueprint. Might do the 6 iron in Blueprint.

> >

> > thinking the same exact thing

>

> Having played i500 for months now , Easyyy is dead on. These will combo perfectly with i500.

First...I am NOT starting a "who should play blades" digression in this thread. But...

To me, the drop off in tech and forgiveness from i500 to Blueprint is extreme to the point where I would feel uncomfortable with it. Beyond that, retro lofting i500s (to me) doesn't get them in line with a blade. The launch and spin characteristics of a retro lofted i500 6 iron are just higher launching and a little higher spinning. This kind of iron has strong lofts to get trajectory down to help with distance...retro specs won't just change carry distance. You're also adding 2 degrees of bounce to reto spec irons.

Again, these are just my opinions and I'm not saying people should do what I think, but the fitter in me scratches his head at just mixing i500 and Blueprint. I can see doing long irons in i500..3-4 irons (for most golfers not on tour) do not need to be distance control clubs. You're typically hitting these clubs from a distance where you're going to accept anything marginally close to your target being a good or great shot. Then iBlade in middle irons...definitely going to be more forgiving than Blueprint, but you're going to have way more control of distance in the 5-6 or even 5-7 iron range. On a par 3 or an approach shot in the 5-7 iron range, most of us are aiming for the fat part of the green and we're going to be very happy with putting after that shot. Then 7 or 8-PW in Blueprint...scoring clubs need to be more about precision and accuracy than distance and forgiveness for the caliber of player who is looking at Blueprint. With these clubs, you're aiming at particular portions of greens and maybe even playing shots where you knock down spin, or are trying to shape it against the wind or what have you.

Again...just my opinions. I'm not trying to burst bubbles or say people shouldn't figure out their sets for themselves. I think that when we get demos, if you put down an i500 6 iron next to a Blueprint 7i, you're going to see MASSIVE differences. I'd want to do a more progressive blending if it were me or if I were fitting someone who was looking to blend these two sets together.

matchavez · April 22, 2019

A lot of assessment on real world forgiveness prior to public availability seems...early.

bladehunter · April 22, 2019

> @towncryer said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @"Seth Pistol" said:

> > > easyyy wrote:

> > >

> > > I am thinking 4-6 i500 retro lofts and then 7-pw Blueprint. Might do the 6 iron in Blueprint.

> > >

> > > thinking the same exact thing

> >

> > Having played i500 for months now , Easyyy is dead on. These will combo perfectly with i500.

>

> First...I am NOT starting a "who should play blades" digression in this thread. But...

> To me, the drop off in tech and forgiveness from i500 to Blueprint is extreme to the point where I would feel uncomfortable with it. Beyond that, retro lofting i500s (to me) doesn't get them in line with a blade. The launch and spin characteristics of a retro lofted i500 6 iron are just higher launching and a little higher spinning. This kind of iron has strong lofts to get trajectory down to help with distance...retro specs won't just change carry distance. You're also adding 2 degrees of bounce to reto spec irons.

>

> Again, these are just my opinions and I'm not saying people should do what I think, but the fitter in me scratches his head at just mixing i500 and Blueprint. I can see doing long irons in i500..3-4 irons (for most golfers not on tour) do not need to be distance control clubs. You're typically hitting these clubs from a distance where you're going to accept anything marginally close to your target being a good or great shot. Then iBlade in middle irons...definitely going to be more forgiving than Blueprint, but you're going to have way more control of distance in the 5-6 or even 5-7 iron range. On a par 3 or an approach shot in the 5-7 iron range, most of us are aiming for the fat part of the green and we're going to be very happy with putting after that shot. Then 7 or 8-PW in Blueprint...scoring clubs need to be more about precision and accuracy than distance and forgiveness for the caliber of player who is looking at Blueprint. With these clubs, you're aiming at particular portions of greens and maybe even playing shots where you knock down spin, or are trying to shape it against the wind or what have you.

>

> Again...just my opinions. I'm not trying to burst bubbles or say people shouldn't figure out their sets for themselves. I think that when we get demos, if you put down an i500 6 iron next to a Blueprint 7i, you're going to see MASSIVE differences. I'd want to do a more progressive blending if it were me or if I were fitting someone who was looking to blend these two sets together.

>

Having played retro lofted i500 for 6 months I can tell you. They play closer to my MB sets than any non mb iron ive ever hit. The i500 has a very high vertical cog. Higher than most mbs. And they are not very forgiving toe side. They are in effect a slightly forgiving mb. The faces aren’t “ hot” like say the 790 iron. And they would pair very well in my opinion. I’d go 3-4 iron I500 and 5-Pw blue print.

towncryer · April 22, 2019

> @matchavez said:

> A lot of assessment on real world forgiveness prior to public availability seems...early.

Of course everything is subject to actually hitting the demo and seeing what's what. But a solid head with a toe weight and slug in the hosel can only be so forgiving on mishits, no?

towncryer · April 22, 2019

> @bladehunter said:

> > @towncryer said:

> > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > @"Seth Pistol" said:

> > > > easyyy wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I am thinking 4-6 i500 retro lofts and then 7-pw Blueprint. Might do the 6 iron in Blueprint.

> > > >

> > > > thinking the same exact thing

> > >

> > > Having played i500 for months now , Easyyy is dead on. These will combo perfectly with i500.

> >

> > First...I am NOT starting a "who should play blades" digression in this thread. But...

> > To me, the drop off in tech and forgiveness from i500 to Blueprint is extreme to the point where I would feel uncomfortable with it. Beyond that, retro lofting i500s (to me) doesn't get them in line with a blade. The launch and spin characteristics of a retro lofted i500 6 iron are just higher launching and a little higher spinning. This kind of iron has strong lofts to get trajectory down to help with distance...retro specs won't just change carry distance. You're also adding 2 degrees of bounce to reto spec irons.

> >

> > Again, these are just my opinions and I'm not saying people should do what I think, but the fitter in me scratches his head at just mixing i500 and Blueprint. I can see doing long irons in i500..3-4 irons (for most golfers not on tour) do not need to be distance control clubs. You're typically hitting these clubs from a distance where you're going to accept anything marginally close to your target being a good or great shot. Then iBlade in middle irons...definitely going to be more forgiving than Blueprint, but you're going to have way more control of distance in the 5-6 or even 5-7 iron range. On a par 3 or an approach shot in the 5-7 iron range, most of us are aiming for the fat part of the green and we're going to be very happy with putting after that shot. Then 7 or 8-PW in Blueprint...scoring clubs need to be more about precision and accuracy than distance and forgiveness for the caliber of player who is looking at Blueprint. With these clubs, you're aiming at particular portions of greens and maybe even playing shots where you knock down spin, or are trying to shape it against the wind or what have you.

> >

> > Again...just my opinions. I'm not trying to burst bubbles or say people shouldn't figure out their sets for themselves. I think that when we get demos, if you put down an i500 6 iron next to a Blueprint 7i, you're going to see MASSIVE differences. I'd want to do a more progressive blending if it were me or if I were fitting someone who was looking to blend these two sets together.

> >

>

> Having played retro lofted i500 for 6 months I can tell you. They play closer to my MB sets than any non mb iron ive ever hit. The i500 has a very high vertical cog. Higher than most mbs. And they are not very forgiving toe side. They are in effect a slightly forgiving mb. The faces aren’t “ hot” like say the 790 iron. And they would pair very well in my opinion. I’d go 3-4 iron I500 and 5-Pw blue print.

Well, I'll certainly defer to your experience when it comes to ordering your clubs. :)

bladehunter · April 22, 2019

> @towncryer said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @towncryer said:

> > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > @"Seth Pistol" said:

> > > > > easyyy wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I am thinking 4-6 i500 retro lofts and then 7-pw Blueprint. Might do the 6 iron in Blueprint.

> > > > >

> > > > > thinking the same exact thing

> > > >

> > > > Having played i500 for months now , Easyyy is dead on. These will combo perfectly with i500.

> > >

> > > First...I am NOT starting a "who should play blades" digression in this thread. But...

> > > To me, the drop off in tech and forgiveness from i500 to Blueprint is extreme to the point where I would feel uncomfortable with it. Beyond that, retro lofting i500s (to me) doesn't get them in line with a blade. The launch and spin characteristics of a retro lofted i500 6 iron are just higher launching and a little higher spinning. This kind of iron has strong lofts to get trajectory down to help with distance...retro specs won't just change carry distance. You're also adding 2 degrees of bounce to reto spec irons.

> > >

> > > Again, these are just my opinions and I'm not saying people should do what I think, but the fitter in me scratches his head at just mixing i500 and Blueprint. I can see doing long irons in i500..3-4 irons (for most golfers not on tour) do not need to be distance control clubs. You're typically hitting these clubs from a distance where you're going to accept anything marginally close to your target being a good or great shot. Then iBlade in middle irons...definitely going to be more forgiving than Blueprint, but you're going to have way more control of distance in the 5-6 or even 5-7 iron range. On a par 3 or an approach shot in the 5-7 iron range, most of us are aiming for the fat part of the green and we're going to be very happy with putting after that shot. Then 7 or 8-PW in Blueprint...scoring clubs need to be more about precision and accuracy than distance and forgiveness for the caliber of player who is looking at Blueprint. With these clubs, you're aiming at particular portions of greens and maybe even playing shots where you knock down spin, or are trying to shape it against the wind or what have you.

> > >

> > > Again...just my opinions. I'm not trying to burst bubbles or say people shouldn't figure out their sets for themselves. I think that when we get demos, if you put down an i500 6 iron next to a Blueprint 7i, you're going to see MASSIVE differences. I'd want to do a more progressive blending if it were me or if I were fitting someone who was looking to blend these two sets together.

> > >

> >

> > Having played retro lofted i500 for 6 months I can tell you. They play closer to my MB sets than any non mb iron ive ever hit. The i500 has a very high vertical cog. Higher than most mbs. And they are not very forgiving toe side. They are in effect a slightly forgiving mb. The faces aren’t “ hot” like say the 790 iron. And they would pair very well in my opinion. I’d go 3-4 iron I500 and 5-Pw blue print.

>

> Well, I'll certainly defer to your experience when it comes to ordering your clubs. :)

meant to add that id likely order 2-pw set of blue prints and test... better than 50% chance id just play the whole blue print set as well . I just dont find that much real help from the i500...and in fact the turf interaction for all but sloppy days is tough to get along with.

towncryer · April 22, 2019

> @towncryer said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @towncryer said:

> > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > @"Seth Pistol" said:

> > > > > easyyy wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I am thinking 4-6 i500 retro lofts and then 7-pw Blueprint. Might do the 6 iron in Blueprint.

> > > > >

> > > > > thinking the same exact thing

> > > >

> > > > Having played i500 for months now , Easyyy is dead on. These will combo perfectly with i500.

> > >

> > > First...I am NOT starting a "who should play blades" digression in this thread. But...

> > > To me, the drop off in tech and forgiveness from i500 to Blueprint is extreme to the point where I would feel uncomfortable with it. Beyond that, retro lofting i500s (to me) doesn't get them in line with a blade. The launch and spin characteristics of a retro lofted i500 6 iron are just higher launching and a little higher spinning. This kind of iron has strong lofts to get trajectory down to help with distance...retro specs won't just change carry distance. You're also adding 2 degrees of bounce to reto spec irons.

> > >

> > > Again, these are just my opinions and I'm not saying people should do what I think, but the fitter in me scratches his head at just mixing i500 and Blueprint. I can see doing long irons in i500..3-4 irons (for most golfers not on tour) do not need to be distance control clubs. You're typically hitting these clubs from a distance where you're going to accept anything marginally close to your target being a good or great shot. Then iBlade in middle irons...definitely going to be more forgiving than Blueprint, but you're going to have way more control of distance in the 5-6 or even 5-7 iron range. On a par 3 or an approach shot in the 5-7 iron range, most of us are aiming for the fat part of the green and we're going to be very happy with putting after that shot. Then 7 or 8-PW in Blueprint...scoring clubs need to be more about precision and accuracy than distance and forgiveness for the caliber of player who is looking at Blueprint. With these clubs, you're aiming at particular portions of greens and maybe even playing shots where you knock down spin, or are trying to shape it against the wind or what have you.

> > >

> > > Again...just my opinions. I'm not trying to burst bubbles or say people shouldn't figure out their sets for themselves. I think that when we get demos, if you put down an i500 6 iron next to a Blueprint 7i, you're going to see MASSIVE differences. I'd want to do a more progressive blending if it were me or if I were fitting someone who was looking to blend these two sets together.

> > >

> >

> > Having played retro lofted i500 for 6 months I can tell you. They play closer to my MB sets than any non mb iron ive ever hit. The i500 has a very high vertical cog. Higher than most mbs. And they are not very forgiving toe side. They are in effect a slightly forgiving mb. The faces aren’t “ hot” like say the 790 iron. And they would pair very well in my opinion. I’d go 3-4 iron I500 and 5-Pw blue print.

>

> Well, I'll certainly defer to your experience when it comes to ordering your clubs. :)

> @bladehunter said:

> > @towncryer said:

> > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > @towncryer said:

> > > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > > @"Seth Pistol" said:

> > > > > > easyyy wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am thinking 4-6 i500 retro lofts and then 7-pw Blueprint. Might do the 6 iron in Blueprint.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thinking the same exact thing

> > > > >

> > > > > Having played i500 for months now , Easyyy is dead on. These will combo perfectly with i500.

> > > >

> > > > First...I am NOT starting a "who should play blades" digression in this thread. But...

> > > > To me, the drop off in tech and forgiveness from i500 to Blueprint is extreme to the point where I would feel uncomfortable with it. Beyond that, retro lofting i500s (to me) doesn't get them in line with a blade. The launch and spin characteristics of a retro lofted i500 6 iron are just higher launching and a little higher spinning. This kind of iron has strong lofts to get trajectory down to help with distance...retro specs won't just change carry distance. You're also adding 2 degrees of bounce to reto spec irons.

> > > >

> > > > Again, these are just my opinions and I'm not saying people should do what I think, but the fitter in me scratches his head at just mixing i500 and Blueprint. I can see doing long irons in i500..3-4 irons (for most golfers not on tour) do not need to be distance control clubs. You're typically hitting these clubs from a distance where you're going to accept anything marginally close to your target being a good or great shot. Then iBlade in middle irons...definitely going to be more forgiving than Blueprint, but you're going to have way more control of distance in the 5-6 or even 5-7 iron range. On a par 3 or an approach shot in the 5-7 iron range, most of us are aiming for the fat part of the green and we're going to be very happy with putting after that shot. Then 7 or 8-PW in Blueprint...scoring clubs need to be more about precision and accuracy than distance and forgiveness for the caliber of player who is looking at Blueprint. With these clubs, you're aiming at particular portions of greens and maybe even playing shots where you knock down spin, or are trying to shape it against the wind or what have you.

> > > >

> > > > Again...just my opinions. I'm not trying to burst bubbles or say people shouldn't figure out their sets for themselves. I think that when we get demos, if you put down an i500 6 iron next to a Blueprint 7i, you're going to see MASSIVE differences. I'd want to do a more progressive blending if it were me or if I were fitting someone who was looking to blend these two sets together.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Having played retro lofted i500 for 6 months I can tell you. They play closer to my MB sets than any non mb iron ive ever hit. The i500 has a very high vertical cog. Higher than most mbs. And they are not very forgiving toe side. They are in effect a slightly forgiving mb. The faces aren’t “ hot” like say the 790 iron. And they would pair very well in my opinion. I’d go 3-4 iron I500 and 5-Pw blue print.

> >

> > Well, I'll certainly defer to your experience when it comes to ordering your clubs. :)

>

> meant to add that id likely order 2-pw set of blue prints and test... better than 50% chance id just play the whole blue print set as well . I just dont find that much real help from the i500...and in fact the turf interaction for all but sloppy days is tough to get along with.

That's super interesting on i500 and it not being that helpful. Good insights...I've hit the demo and I'm a club longer than in iBlade with it, but I didn't like hitting it...could be the turf interaction off an indoor mat that gave me bad vibes.

I think ordering the full set and then figuring out where (or even if) to blend is the smart play. I hate to be "that guy," but pricing will drive how much of the set I order if I order anything (hitting the demo will tell the tale for me). If I can't get PUD pricing and have to pay cost (still a great deal), I'll likely just get scoring irons. If I can get PUD pricing, I'll go down to 5i. No desire to kick out the 3-4 irons of iBlade that I have already...but it'd be nice to have the option to play around with set composition in the 5-7 iron to see where the best split would be for me.

Joelsim · April 22, 2019

You could serve a piece of cake on one of those.

RH82 · April 23, 2019

Anyone know what the price point will be?

TheMoneyShot · April 23, 2019

> @RH82 said:

> Anyone know what the price point will be?

>

$1912.50 for 2-PW.

matchavez · April 23, 2019

Or for anyone who doesn't want to do math, that's US$212.5/iron stock.

Big Ben · April 23, 2019

Boy has PXG changed the market for high end offerings.

matchavez · April 24, 2019

You misspelled inflation.

airjammer · April 24, 2019

Eagerly waiting for next spring for someone with Ti x100’s to decide they can’t hit them for less than $1000

towncryer · April 24, 2019

> @airjammer said:

> Eagerly waiting for next spring for someone with Ti x100’s to decide they can’t hit them for less than $1000

Oh boy! Hot take! Think I've only seen this twelve or thirteen times in this thread.

cardoustie · April 24, 2019

I put my order on hold until I can hit one

Want to make sure they don't feel like i500

airjammer · April 24, 2019

> @towncryer said:

> > @airjammer said:

> > Eagerly waiting for next spring for someone with Ti x100’s to decide they can’t hit them for less than $1000

>

> Oh boy! Hot take! Think I've only seen this twelve or thirteen times in this thread.

Great! Maybe the Tix100 part will get stuck subliminally in people’s minds so there will a be ample supply ?

TLUBulldogGolf · April 24, 2019

> @TheMoneyShot said:

> > @RH82 said:

> > Anyone know what the price point will be?

> >

>

> $1912.50 for 2-PW.

And for that reason I'm out.

TheMoneyShot · April 24, 2019

> @TLUBulldogGolf said:

> > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > @RH82 said:

> > > Anyone know what the price point will be?

> > >

> >

> > $1912.50 for 2-PW.

>

> And for that reason I'm out.

Pricey indeed...

bladehunter · April 24, 2019

Not really. 1 more club than the TW irons. And likely a better club. At least equal to.

ZAP · April 24, 2019

Still on my radar. Probably going 5-PW or 4-PW anyways. Still need to save up in case Ping knocked it out of the park.

Pinging77 · April 25, 2019

Still have an order in but cannot find out whether they are truly forged from 1025 carbon steel, or one die press on an 8620 precast head followed by lots of machining, like the Ansers were and probably the Glide Forged Wedges (which they do admit is 8620). I suppose they could even be Forged 431 SS as well.. Anymore it seems like companies really stretch the use of Forged on irons, particularly the distance improvement models..

beluga99 · April 25, 2019

Was Andy Sullivan using his Blueprint 8 iron to make a hole in one on the European Tour 500 ball challenge? 270 shots before he nailed one?? Pfftt... That's a hard 'no' from me. ;)

T.B. · April 25, 2019

> @20six said:

> If I had the skill to hit that 2 iron, you people would be in your shanties watching me on TV today. I'd eat pieces of **** like you for breakfast!

Instead,,, your in your shanty while people like me are eating pos like for breakfast

chazpet · April 25, 2019

With these being similar in shape to the Vapor Pros and Vapor Pro Combos, is anyone thinking about a combo set with these and the combos in the longer irons? May have to test them when demos are out, but that price tag is killer!

ex0dus · April 25, 2019

I could definitely see myself gaming these but i wouldn't buy them new. It seems like a lot of mbs that come out now have a cg that is higher and more heel biased than i would like.

I see a lot of comments about the 2 iron. It is actually a great club to practice with. I have an old one in my practice bag.

xGameOver · April 26, 2019

I think the new mizuno will beat this one out and will literally cost half the price. Guess we’ll find out!

bladehunter · April 26, 2019

Wish these released today. Ugh I’m so impatient

towncryer · April 26, 2019

> @SuperBombin said:

> I think the new mizuno will beat this one out and will literally cost half the price. Guess we’ll find out!

Yeah...you mean "figuratively", though. Many people on this thread are saying $212.50 per stick for the Blueprint. So that's $1700 for a set of eight. If that's the price, then these new Mizunos would have to be $850. Even if the Blueprint is $2000 for eight clubs, that would mean that to be "literally half the price" the Mizunos would have to be $1000. If the new Mizuno blades are $1000 or less for eight clubs when they come out, I'll happily retract my objection. :)

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