AT&T Pebble Beach

[rawdog]

Scott Piercy's three putt from 15 feet in the dark put Max Homa and Michael Thompson into the top 10 and a spot at Riviera.

 

They should engrave a flashlight and give it to him as a thank-you.

[BMC]

Of course you will, and some of will be unfounded, there are always a few just plain old sore losers, but to lump everyone (especially many of those speaking here, ie Obee and Blade) as a loser because they’re talking about it......

 

Maybe you misread it, but wasn't implying that posters here were losers.

[DrivingChamp]

Wonder if stallings will Just leave like tiger did

[bladehunter]

I’d like to give the local guy a shout out. DJ Trahan went -5 today to finish 18th. Always good to see .

[mukster]

Man, Phil is a beacon of light for us older codgers! I really like Casey, but here's hoping Phil walks away with the trophy.

[GeorgeHWB]

Man, Phil is a beacon of light for us older codgers! I really like Casey, but here's hoping Phil walks away with the trophy.

 

Phil is one month older than me.

 

Gives me hope.

[Darth Putter]

Phil has to pull this off ... 29 years between wins is Nicklaus level. .. mindbowing

 

So many guys are awesome for a handful of years .... but 3 decades is next level talent

 

Jack's back at 25 years between first and last wins.

 

Davis Love is 3rd overall at 29 years.

 

Sam Snead and Ray Floyd are the leaders at 30 years.

[new2g0lf]

I think any time someone loses to a guy that shoots lower than his index there's whispers of him being a sandbagger. I attribute it more to people not understanding what handicap index represents because there's a much higher percentage of vanity cappers than sandbaggers.

[deadsolid...shank]

Of course you will, and some of will be unfounded, there are always a few just plain old sore losers, but to lump everyone (especially many of those speaking here, ie Obee and Blade) as a loser because they’re talking about it......

 

Maybe you misread it, but wasn't implying that posters here were losers.

 

I’m sure you weren’t meaning to, but right after a string of posts about Collamder and his handicap you say “losers complain about sandbaggers”.

 

It’s difficult to not read it that way.

[bladehunter]

I think any time someone loses to a guy that shoots lower than his index there's whispers of him being a sandbagger. I attribute it more to people not understanding what handicap index represents because there's a much higher percentage of vanity cappers than sandbaggers.

 

Where are these stats posted ?

[BMC]

Of course you will, and some of will be unfounded, there are always a few just plain old sore losers, but to lump everyone (especially many of those speaking here, ie Obee and Blade) as a loser because they’re talking about it......

 

Maybe you misread it, but wasn't implying that posters here were losers.

 

I’m sure you weren’t meaning to, but right after a string of posts about Collamder and his handicap you say “losers complain about sandbaggers”.

 

It’s difficult to not read it that way.

 

Maybe my timing was bad?

[deadsolid...shank]

I think any time someone loses to a guy that shoots lower than his index there's whispers of him being a sandbagger. I attribute it more to people not understanding what handicap index represents because there's a much higher percentage of vanity cappers than sandbaggers.

 

I think it’s the quality of shots,,and the number of them, on this stage that is brimging out so many questions. 16’s (or 13’s) just don’t hit that many really, really good shots, especially playing in the final group of a PGA tournament on national television.

 

 

[bladehunter]

I’ve come up with a bagger test.

 

 

Ask a guy how many shots he needs to play for $100 vs a scratch guy. Most honest guys will say a number greater than their cap. The bagger will think on it a moment and usually give you number slightly less than his listed cap. Why ? He knows he has padding. And he wants the bet. And he knows that a number greater than his listed isn’t going to get the bet. You won’t get many real 13 caps to take that bet for $100 with a scratch guy. Not for only 13 shots. $100 seems to be the amount that make most squirm a touch. Not really. But it hurts to lose it vs your $5 skin etc.

[deadsolid...shank]

Of course you will, and some of will be unfounded, there are always a few just plain old sore losers, but to lump everyone (especially many of those speaking here, ie Obee and Blade) as a loser because they’re talking about it......

 

Maybe you misread it, but wasn't implying that posters here were losers.

 

I’m sure you weren’t meaning to, but right after a string of posts about Collamder and his handicap you say “losers complain about sandbaggers”.

 

It’s difficult to not read it that way.

 

Maybe my timing was bad?

 

Could be. Ah well, no worries, it’s all made for a more exciting evening!

[jgrzask]

I sure wish my GHIN app was working, it would be interesting to look at his history (yes, that’s a hint for someone to do it)!

 

Got a PM from Phil. He says Hamm's for everyone in this thread in his room tonight!!!

 

I messaged back he needs to tap the brakes. He hasn't won yet.

 

:)

 

He’s over at Motel 6 right? Said he’d leave the light on.

[deadsolid...shank]

I’ve come up with a bagger test.

 

 

Ask a guy how many shots he needs to play for $100 vs a scratch guy. Most honest guys will say a number greater than their cap. The bagger will think on it a moment and usually give you number slightly less than his listed cap. Why ? He knows he has padding. And he wants the bet. And he knows that a number greater than his listed isn’t going to get the bet. You won’t get many real 13 caps to take that bet for $100 with a scratch guy. Not for only 13 shots. $100 seems to be the amount that make most squirm a touch. Not really. But it hurts to lose it vs your $5 skin etc.

 

I’m curious, what do people think he “looks”like (cap wise). Based on just today he really looks 5ish or so to me (and maybe even hits it better than that, putter looks a little shaky, but a lot of that could be the greens).

[new2g0lf]

I think any time someone loses to a guy that shoots lower than his index there's whispers of him being a sandbagger. I attribute it more to people not understanding what handicap index represents because there's a much higher percentage of vanity cappers than sandbaggers.

 

Where are these stats posted ?

 

Just go watch country club golf, unless it's a tournament or money game, guys are very generous with the rules to help lower their score. I see gimme's, improvement of lie on and off fairway, mulligans etc. Factor in misunderstanding and the generous use of ESC and you have a lot of vanity cappers out there.

[bladehunter]

I’ve come up with a bagger test.

 

 

Ask a guy how many shots he needs to play for $100 vs a scratch guy. Most honest guys will say a number greater than their cap. The bagger will think on it a moment and usually give you number slightly less than his listed cap. Why ? He knows he has padding. And he wants the bet. And he knows that a number greater than his listed isn’t going to get the bet. You won’t get many real 13 caps to take that bet for $100 with a scratch guy. Not for only 13 shots. $100 seems to be the amount that make most squirm a touch. Not really. But it hurts to lose it vs your $5 skin etc.

 

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I’m curious, what do people think he “looks”like (cap wise). Based on just today he really looks 5ish or so to me (and maybe even hits it better than that, putter looks a little shaky, but a lot of that could be the greens).

 

Playing like that on a reasonably rated course he has to be a real 5-6 at most. I mean can that guy shoot 90 regularly ? I don’t think so.

[deadsolid...shank]

I sure wish my GHIN app was working, it would be interesting to look at his history (yes, that’s a hint for someone to do it)!

 

Got a PM from Phil. He says Hamm's for everyone in this thread in his room tonight!!!

 

I messaged back he needs to tap the brakes. He hasn't won yet.

 

:)

 

He’s over at Motel 6 right? Said he’d leave the light on.

1/19 92 69.3/132 19.4 * H 12/18 90 71.1/134 15.9 H 12/18 91 69.3/132 18.6 H 12/18 93 71.1/134 18.5 H 12/18 92 71.1/134 17.6 H 12/18 94 71.1/134 19.3 * H 12/18 90 71.1/134 15.9 H 11/18 92 71.1/134 17.6 * H 11/18 90 71.1/134 15.9 * H 11/18 91 71.1/134 16.8 H 11/18 96 71.6/133 20.7 H 11/18 93 71.3/132 18.6 * H 10/18 88 71.1/134 14.3 * H 10/18 91 71.1/134 16.8 H 10/18 98 69.4/132 24.5 H 10/18 92 71.1/134 17.6 * H 10/18 91 71.1/134 16.8 * H 8/18 89 69.3/132 16.9 * A 7/18 87 71.1/134 13.4 * H 6/18 87 69.0/122 16.7

 

Thanks so much. Less than a 10shot spread (unless I missed something) for a teen handicapper. Remarkably consistent. Hmm........

[bladehunter]

I think any time someone loses to a guy that shoots lower than his index there's whispers of him being a sandbagger. I attribute it more to people not understanding what handicap index represents because there's a much higher percentage of vanity cappers than sandbaggers.

 

Where are these stats posted ?

 

Just go watch country club golf, unless it's a tournament or money game, guys are very generous with the rules to help lower their score. I see gimme's, improvement of lie on and off fairway, mulligans etc. Factor in misunderstanding and the generous use of ESC and you have a lot of vanity cappers out there.

 

That maybe true. Assuming they post rounds. Hadn’t really thought of that angle. I guess I assume they are like my members. Post 1-2 rounds every 3 months . Lol.

[deadsolid...shank]

I’ve come up with a bagger test.

 

 

Ask a guy how many shots he needs to play for $100 vs a scratch guy. Most honest guys will say a number greater than their cap. The bagger will think on it a moment and usually give you number slightly less than his listed cap. Why ? He knows he has padding. And he wants the bet. And he knows that a number greater than his listed isn’t going to get the bet. You won’t get many real 13 caps to take that bet for $100 with a scratch guy. Not for only 13 shots. $100 seems to be the amount that make most squirm a touch. Not really. But it hurts to lose it vs your $5 skin etc.

 

��

I’m curious, what do people think he “looks”like (cap wise). Based on just today he really looks 5ish or so to me (and maybe even hits it better than that, putter looks a little shaky, but a lot of that could be the greens).

 

Playing like that on a reasonably rated course he has to be a real 5-6 at most. I mean can that guy shoot 90 regularly ? I don’t think so.

 

Oh man, are you going to enjoy JG’s post!

[bladehunter]

I sure wish my GHIN app was working, it would be interesting to look at his history (yes, that’s a hint for someone to do it)!

 

Got a PM from Phil. He says Hamm's for everyone in this thread in his room tonight!!!

 

I messaged back he needs to tap the brakes. He hasn't won yet.

 

:)

 

He’s over at Motel 6 right? Said he’d leave the light on.

1/19 92 69.3/132 19.4 * H 12/18 90 71.1/134 15.9 H 12/18 91 69.3/132 18.6 H 12/18 93 71.1/134 18.5 H 12/18 92 71.1/134 17.6 H 12/18 94 71.1/134 19.3 * H 12/18 90 71.1/134 15.9 H 11/18 92 71.1/134 17.6 * H 11/18 90 71.1/134 15.9 * H 11/18 91 71.1/134 16.8 H 11/18 96 71.6/133 20.7 H 11/18 93 71.3/132 18.6 * H 10/18 88 71.1/134 14.3 * H 10/18 91 71.1/134 16.8 H 10/18 98 69.4/132 24.5 H 10/18 92 71.1/134 17.6 * H 10/18 91 71.1/134 16.8 * H 8/18 89 69.3/132 16.9 * A 7/18 87 71.1/134 13.4 * H 6/18 87 69.0/122 16.7

 

Thanks so much. Less than a 10shot spread (unless I missed something) for a teen handicapper. Remarkably consistent. Hmm........

 

Yep. That’s what I figured his scores looked like when I posted that aboit ahooting 90 regularly. No way in hell he shoots 90 on a course that’s setup for daily play every round. This guy needs hate mail. Lol. That’s how bad that is.

[deadsolid...shank]

I sure wish my GHIN app was working, it would be interesting to look at his history (yes, that’s a hint for someone to do it)!

 

Got a PM from Phil. He says Hamm's for everyone in this thread in his room tonight!!!

 

I messaged back he needs to tap the brakes. He hasn't won yet.

 

:)

 

He’s over at Motel 6 right? Said he’d leave the light on.

1/19 92 69.3/132 19.4 * H 12/18 90 71.1/134 15.9 H 12/18 91 69.3/132 18.6 H 12/18 93 71.1/134 18.5 H 12/18 92 71.1/134 17.6 H 12/18 94 71.1/134 19.3 * H 12/18 90 71.1/134 15.9 H 11/18 92 71.1/134 17.6 * H 11/18 90 71.1/134 15.9 * H 11/18 91 71.1/134 16.8 H 11/18 96 71.6/133 20.7 H 11/18 93 71.3/132 18.6 * H 10/18 88 71.1/134 14.3 * H 10/18 91 71.1/134 16.8 H 10/18 98 69.4/132 24.5 H 10/18 92 71.1/134 17.6 * H 10/18 91 71.1/134 16.8 * H 8/18 89 69.3/132 16.9 * A 7/18 87 71.1/134 13.4 * H 6/18 87 69.0/122 16.7

 

Thanks so much. Less than a 10shot spread (unless I missed something) for a teen handicapper. Remarkably consistent. Hmm........

 

Yep. That’s what I figured his scores looked like when I posted that aboit ahooting 90 regularly. No way in hell he shoots 90 on a course that’s setup for daily play every round. This guy needs hate mail. Lol. That’s how bad that is.

 

Look at that first row!

[avguy]

I'd like to give the local guy a shout out. DJ Trahan went -5 today to finish 18th. Always good to see .

 

:fan_1: I was very glad to see his name up that PGA Tour board again.....He's a 2-time Tour Winner; I've met his father, The Surge - Don, and have enjoyed that PPGS technique in my past.

[bladehunter]

He shot a 98 on a course rated 69.4/132. Was he blind folded and drugged ?

[doglegs]

Its easy to sit at home at call FedEx guy a sandbagger but obviously CBS isn't going to air his duck hooks, shanks, and chili dips. He was hitting the ball solid but hard to judge if you're not walking with his group.

[jgrzask]

sorry i tried editing the format ill just re post the screenshot

[deadsolid...shank]

Its easy to sit at home at call FedEx guy a sandbagger but obviously CBS isn't going to air his duck hooks, shanks, and chili dips. He was hitting the ball solid but hard to judge if you're not walking with his group.

 

Fair point. But seeing the quality of shots he did hit that they did show (and there were several), does it jive to you with the list of posted scores?

[bladehunter]

I'd like to give the local guy a shout out. DJ Trahan went -5 today to finish 18th. Always good to see .

 

:fan_1: I was very glad to see his name up that PGA Tour board again.....He's a 2-time Tour Winner; I've met his father, The Surge - Don, and have enjoyed that PPGS technique in my past.

 

Yep. Played many times with Don. He’s a member where I’m at. Never seen a senior stripe a set of blades like he can. Straightest ball flight I’ve ever seen. No lie. Heart surgery hampers his distance. But he still hits it so straight. For teaching pros he’s a grade A stick. His playing record isn’t rivaled by many that have worked behind the counter and on the lesson tee.

[Steele47]

sorry i tried editing the format ill just re post the screenshot

 

 

Quite consistent.