Random Bandon Thread

[deadsolid...shank]

7 minutes ago, 2bGood said:

I would not jump to that conclusion too fast. Yes if you want a planned out trip with several other golfers you need to book well in advance, but your booking is 100% refundable 30 days before the booking. 

 

Then as if by magic 50 - 30 days before the time you want to play booking open as people cancel their long ago booked trips for various reasons.  Call in a few times per week during this time period and you will end up getting rooms/times.

 

The third option is if you are a twosome or single you can walk on without much effort or book with short notice given the number of courses they have. I have done this several times when I was passing through  the area.

 

I don't have any hacks for the cost though- other than going in the winter. 

 

Going single probably would work. But a trip of that magnitude I would most likely want to go with one of my regular groups and have at least four. And I just don’t see a scenario where I would be traveling alone in that area (since I’ve never been in the NW) where I could add a few days to play. The cost factor is just my cheapness coming out😀 

[2bGood]

4 minutes ago, deadsolid...shank said:

Going single probably would work. But a trip of that magnitude I would most likely want to go with one of my regular groups and have at least four. And I just don’t see a scenario where I would be traveling alone in that area (since I’ve never been in the NW) where I could add a few days to play. The cost factor is just my cheapness coming out😀 

Yes, the cost is what it is. IF you are willing to play in the low season you could pay as little $75 per round for 36 hole day. Given that you are playing some of the best courses in the world that is a steal of a deal. Even the shoulder season rates aren't too bad at $125ish per round. Of course it is pretty far out of the way with its own set of costs associated. 

 

If you do plan in advance the deposit is around $250 per guy (refundable up to 30 days out) If you want to be a bit more spontaneous historically I have not had trouble getting times and rooms for a 4some a few weeks before the cancellation deadline is coming up. 

 

 

[deadsolid...shank]

3 hours ago, 2bGood said:

Yes, the cost is what it is. IF you are willing to play in the low season you could pay as little $75 per round for 36 hole day. Given that you are playing some of the best courses in the world that is a steal of a deal. Even the shoulder season rates aren't too bad at $125ish per round. Of course it is pretty far out of the way with its own set of costs associated. 

 

If you do plan in advance the deposit is around $250 per guy (refundable up to 30 days out) If you want to be a bit more spontaneous historically I have not had trouble getting times and rooms for a 4some a few weeks before the cancellation deadline is coming up. 

 

 

Those rates are very reasonable, especially for the quality. But......if I were to plan a trip out there, especially considering it would likely be a one time thing, I would want to go in a season when good weather is fairly certain. As well as ample daylight to get that minimum of 36 a day. And I do realize that when you have a half price replay it does help tremendously (what is a regular high season rate, $250 ish?) with the cost. 
 

I know it probably is a case of you do get your monie’s worth there because of the quality, it’s just really a case of me not wanting to spend $2,500-3,000.  

[Abh159]

40 minutes ago, deadsolid...shank said:

Those rates are very reasonable, especially for the quality. But......if I were to plan a trip out there, especially considering it would likely be a one time thing, I would want to go in a season when good weather is fairly certain. As well as ample daylight to get that minimum of 36 a day. And I do realize that when you have a half price replay it does help tremendously (what is a regular high season rate, $250 ish?) with the cost. 
 

I know it probably is a case of you do get your monie’s worth there because of the quality, it’s just really a case of me not wanting to spend $2,500-3,000.  

I’ve always felt the same way about BD. I’ve always wanted to go, but if I did I would want to do it with at least 3 friends (going as a single just seems odd to me), and I would definitely want to go during the summer / fall. If I’m spending $3000+ to fly across the country and play golf I wouldn’t want to chance it with the winter or springtime weather. 
 

Then again after reading the last few pages of this thread it seems like it would be easier to plan a trip to St Andrew’s than it would be to Oregon. 

[Edaw68]

I don't want people that haven't gone before to get the impression it's hard to plan a Bandon trip.  It's an issue of overcrowding in the shoulder season.  February, March, and April are extremely popular due to the cheaper rates versus the chance of good weather.  You can get awful weather in those months or amazing weather, but the odds are better than in winter.  If you want the best chance of good weather, summer is the time to go, there's a reason it's more expensive.  Those of you who are willing to pay the premium, summer is likely going to be easier to plan given there's fewer of us doing our annual trips looking for specific dates.  

 

The planning is super simple due to the Reservations staff being great at their jobs.  Just pick your preferred dates, call reservations, and say you want to play all 5 courses over X dates for X number of people.  They'll help with what to do as long as dates are available.

[mallrat]

I was a big part of the last couple pages and my apologies. I in NO way want to discourage anyone from going or take any shine off what I believe is the best collection of courses in 1 place in North America. 
 

For the most part it is not as difficult as it seems. Fly into Portland and drive or fly into Eugene and drive a little under 1/2 the time. Once at the resort life could not be easier. You can save money in the off/shoulder seasons you are chancing the weather. 
 

Do not hesitate to go as a single. It opens a LOT in terms of tee times and course rotation and you will meet quite a few enjoyable people. Out of 7 or 8 trips as a single there has only been 1 pairing I didn’t enjoy. 

[deadsolid...shank]

I’ve read these threads over the years and have always been amazed at how unanimous the love for Bandon is. It seems to be the ONE thing all wWRX’ers actually agree on!😀

 

I actually enjoy trip planning (not that I’ve done a lot), it just floors me that now you have to book more than a year out. Just amazes me. But the trip doesn’t appear to be too overwhelming, we’ve normally had a three hour drive to the airport to start our trips if we were flying.  
 

I think I would enjoy playing as a single. It’s just that after a trip like this, I want to be able to share the memories and stories with my buddies. While I “play along” vicariously with everyone in all the threads here, none of my buddies are WRX’ers, so most of them really don’t have an idea of the scope of the trip. 

[2bGood]

3 hours ago, Edaw68 said:

 

 

The planning is super simple due to the Reservations staff being great at their jobs.  Just pick your preferred dates, call reservations, and say you want to play all 5 courses over X dates for X number of people.  They'll help with what to do as long as dates are available.

 I second that. The entire property and staff is first class operation. There is good reason why we all keep going back.

 

Bandon is the best golf experience I have had and if you really love golf, it is must make trip at some point.

Edited January 4, 2021 by 2bGood

[mallrat]

30 minutes ago, 2bGood said:

 I second that. The entire property and staff is first class operation. There is good reason why we all keep going back.

 

Bandon is the best golf experience I have had and you really love golf, it is must make trip at some point.

That reminds me of the only argument I’ve ever been a part of at Bandon. Let me preface this by saying that the guy I got in the argument with was a jerk and a last minute add to my friends group due to a dropout. 
 

A really good friend had an opening as they were on a 5 day trip and someone had to bail after day 2. So I drove down from Portland. My buddy is a smart guy and these were his buddies from grad school, except the jerk, he was a member at the same club as a couple of the guys. Now I’m a lowly greenskeeper at the time and these guys are all involved in hedge funds, venture capital or cfo’s of start ups. Any way the jerk starts talking about how his company might buy some golf resorts and how he would turn them around and what changes he would make and blah blah blah. So I start laughing because I have a resort background but mainly food & bev. Basically I tell him he’s full of crap and has no idea what he’s talking about. Now everybody else starts laughing because “I knew someone would call you on your bs, just didn’t think it would be the new guy.” He looks at me and says ok genius what would you do? My honest answer was if I needed to turn a golf resort around I would fly to Bandon and not leave until the GM came to work for my resort. 
 

I have honestly had better hospitality experiences at Bandon than some 5 star resorts in Hawaii. 

Edited January 4, 2021 by mallrat

[spud3]

Nah, the place is a dump... nobody goes there anymore.....

😆

 

Seriously, the last several pages have mostly been those of us who live within driving range gnashing our teeth because the window of weather/price value is getting smaller and smaller.  And it's getting more competitive to reserve the slots that used to be fairly easy to get, lodging-wise.

 

Winter/Shoulder season used to be the time for the local/regional/hardcore/Gore Tex stockholders to be able to easily score a weekend or two without having to take out a second mortgage or have to deal with the circus of the Preserve on Friday night.

 

I miss that Bandon. 

 

And I don't want it to become either a smaller version of Myrtle Beach, where the "Groups Rool!", or a bigger version of Pebble Beach, which is now so expensive you can only play it once to check it off the bucket list.

 

I don't know if it's possible to serve all those markets and still welcome the single player or the three-ball group.  I still think that it is not, and by trying to do that (or doing nothing and letting the free market determine the fate), Mike Keiser is risking the very principle on which the resort was founded. 

 

But that's all 40,000 ft-level stuff.  The reality of the experience there is (still) unmatched anywhere in the world.

[philsRHman]

I only made the trip once, as a single in March of 2019 and had very little trouble getting rooms or 36 hole tee times.
 

I get that booking 12 months (in reality I guess you’re booking up to 23 months in advance) is crazy, but it’s also the price of accessibility. It’s priced in a way that’s not Pebble Beach (or even Pinehurst, I believe), the lodging is fair, etc. Do you guys sense that a ton of that Jan. 1 booking is placeholders? Guys booking up on the hopes of finding a trip? Even if it means booking 4-5 dates, if there’s no cancelation penalty then there’s no harm. 

 

I remain astounded that so many people are willing to make the trip though, 95%+ of golfers I talk to in NJ have zero interest in the distance, the walking, the lack of anything else to do (no casino, bars, tail chasing). Maybe I’m underestimating how many casual golfers go there, or underestimate how many hardcore golfers there are in the country, but to fill up the place 52 weeks a year just seems incredible. 
 

As for you local guys, trust me, I get it. This weekend I played on Friday when it was 37 degrees out because I knew Saturday would be a mobscene when it was 55. If I got used to an accessible Bandon a few hours away and could play it cheap on the offseason I’d be pretty distraught by it filling up, too. Since you guys are in state, don’t you get the same price if you stay on site or off? Is it just for the convenience/experience even on an impromptu trip? Or is it literally difficult to find a time even in Feb or March etc?

[philsRHman]

Also, would it make things more transparent if they started listing tee times and accommodations online instead of having to call? I suppose at some point you might be looking at a lottery situation like St Andrew’s. Or a rolling 12 month advance window. 

[mallrat]

For me, I’ve never had issues time wise as a single. When I went in Dec I was in the first 3 groups out both days and had my choice of guaranteed to finish times on Trails, OM, or Bandon the 1st day. Actually on the 1st day I was scheduled at 11:50, and they were wide open for the 3 tee times before that. They sent me out as a single, said play 2 balls and enjoy yourself as it’s mostly 4somes in front of me. I saw the 1st group in front of me on 4 when 1 guy dropped his jacket and forgot. I walked it out to him and told him, to not worry about feeling pushed by me being a single as I knew I couldn’t go anywhere and was just enjoying the day. 
 

Most times now in the offseason I stay in town and take advantage of my industry rate, replay rate for all rounds. I actually like some of the food in town better and it’s fun to grab a beer at The Arcade which is owned by a caddie and his dad and chat and hear some stories. But with Covid I just wanted to stay on site and not deal with all that. 

[Chanceman]

1 hour ago, spud3 said:

Nah, the place is a dump... nobody goes there anymore.....

😆

 

Seriously, the last several pages have mostly been those of us who live within driving range gnashing our teeth because the window of weather/price value is getting smaller and smaller.  And it's getting more competitive to reserve the slots that used to be fairly easy to get, lodging-wise.

 

Winter/Shoulder season used to be the time for the local/regional/hardcore/Gore Tex stockholders to be able to easily score a weekend or two without having to take out a second mortgage or have to deal with the circus of the Preserve on Friday night.

 

I miss that Bandon. 

 

And I don't want it to become either a smaller version of Myrtle Beach, where the "Groups Rool!", or a bigger version of Pebble Beach, which is now so expensive you can only play it once to check it off the bucket list.

 

I don't know if it's possible to serve all those markets and still welcome the single player or the three-ball group.  I still think that it is not, and by trying to do that (or doing nothing and letting the free market determine the fate), Mike Keiser is risking the very principle on which the resort was founded. 

 

But that's all 40,000 ft-level stuff.  The reality of the experience there is (still) unmatched anywhere in the world.

 

Ha Ha yeah - I think it was Yogi Berra who said "No-one goes there anymore, it's too crowded"

 

Anyway, we are going to BD in 2022 as a group of 12 and now booked into Round Lake without much detail on that place, but knowing Bandon I am totally confident it will be excellent. We have 6 double rooms so we'll put the snorers together. Being all 70+ we take the 10 am tee times and play our second round at the Preserve or even 9 holes on one of the main courses. Whatever you do at Bandon is just awesome fun. Can't wait. Especially to play the Sheep Ranch as we played the old paddock last time.

Also thinking of a late round at Bandon Crossings one day - anyone comment on that?

 

 

[2bGood]

1 hour ago, philsRHman said:

I only made the trip once, as a single in March of 2019 and had very little trouble getting rooms or 36 hole tee times.
 

I get that booking 12 months (in reality I guess you’re booking up to 23 months in advance) is crazy, but it’s also the price of accessibility. It’s priced in a way that’s not Pebble Beach (or even Pinehurst, I believe), the lodging is fair, etc. Do you guys sense that a ton of that Jan. 1 booking is placeholders? Guys booking up on the hopes of finding a trip? Even if it means booking 4-5 dates, if there’s no cancelation penalty then there’s no harm. 

 

I remain astounded that so many people are willing to make the trip though, 95%+ of golfers I talk to in NJ have zero interest in the distance, the walking, the lack of anything else to do (no casino, bars, tail chasing). Maybe I’m underestimating how many casual golfers go there, or underestimate how many hardcore golfers there are in the country, but to fill up the place 52 weeks a year just seems incredible. 
 

As for you local guys, trust me, I get it. This weekend I played on Friday when it was 37 degrees out because I knew Saturday would be a mobscene when it was 55. If I got used to an accessible Bandon a few hours away and could play it cheap on the offseason I’d be pretty distraught by it filling up, too. Since you guys are in state, don’t you get the same price if you stay on site or off? Is it just for the convenience/experience even on an impromptu trip? Or is it literally difficult to find a time even in Feb or March etc?

Yes MANY are place holders. This is why calling 4-6 weeks before you find plenty of times open.

 

When we do our bookings everyone intends to go, but a year+ later things change and I don't think we have ever had a trip where the same guys that book, end up coming and different guys take their spot or we have had to cancel spots before. Heck I organised a trip that I could not go on due to knee surgery. We had a guy lose his job, guys get new job and can't get the time off any more - you name it - allot can change in a year.

 

I am sure there just speculators booking as well and reserving more spots than they need to leave their options open.

Edited January 4, 2021 by 2bGood

[spud3]

I prefer to stay onsite, just because everything is right there.  While a good place in town is only ten minutes drive away (and about the same price in the winter), it's still nice to be on site.  That's just me.

 

And I had a tough time getting tee time bookings this past December, even as a single.  I wasn't able to play PD at all, managed one slot on SR just before the end of guaranteed times and only able to get on BD with a very late start.  I was able to improvise a bit due to the weather being worse than forecast, which opened up an opportunity to play the front 11 of SR by myself, but that was in a pretty stout squall.  It was by far the most difficulty that I have had getting tee times on an impromptu trip. 

 

Couple that with only getting a room onsite for one night, which is just annoying, and that'll get me crying in my Pilsner.  Yes, Oregon residents pay the same greens fees as resort guests, but no one staying off-site gets to make tee times farther out than 21 days.  And it's getting harder to be able to find near-term openings that aren't either piecemeal lodgings, tee times or both. 

 

Such first-world problems...

[2bGood]

1 hour ago, philsRHman said:

Also, would it make things more transparent if they started listing tee times and accommodations online instead of having to call? I suppose at some point you might be looking at a lottery situation like St Andrew’s. Or a rolling 12 month advance window. 

It used to be a rolling 12month window. Not sure why they changed it. It was nice as you could book your next years trip the day you arrive.

 

Not sure we will get to a lottery any time soon. Bandon has a more limited market than the Old Course. Bandon is great and all, but there is not allot golfer from Europe coming there to play compared to how many Americans head to the UK. There are loads of courses as good/better than Bandon in the UK. After all Bandon set out to emulate UK golf. And of course the Old Course is the Old Course.

 

Bandon will also *likely* never host a Major or PGA event given it's location, so it will never have the same prestige as other places. From what I have seen that kind of prestige draws in causal golfer with money looking to say they played x or y course.  

 

*I say likely as if the current situation of no fans at golf events carry on into the future I suppose it could happen. If that is the case we all have bigger problems than tee times though.*

Edited January 4, 2021 by 2bGood

[dcmidnight]

I dont see BD being any sort of mecca for large boozy group trips like Myrtle...ever, really. For all the reasons talked about. Most people just arent going to book 15+ months out, put down deposits, commit to dates etc. Myrtle has 100+ courses and a ton of other stuff, BD has...nothing like that. So dont go walking off the cliff just yet, I think these large groups going to BD are the exception rather than the rule.

 

One change I would like to see made is BD having "busy dates" marked off on a calendar like the Old Course - actually all the StA courses. So you know, OK this weekend the NCGA is here, this weekend we have two groups of 20, this weekend PD/BT are being worked on etc. That way at least during the initial planning you can know what dates to avoid.

 

I said it in my trip report from October but when I was there Kemper had people from all over the country learning customer service and how their systems/procedures work. Think about how big a company Kemper Sports is and how inconvenient BD is to get to - yet they chose BD as the place to send people to learn about customer service. That should tell you something.

[Abh159]

Yeah I guess the big difference is for those of you who live somewhat near the area. It's more practical for you to be able to call a month or two ahead of time and see if hey had any cancellations. I'd love to be in that sort of position and envy those of you who can do it. 

 

For the rest of us who don't live the the PNW it's an expensive, multi-day, multi-flight type of trip that most likely can't be planned last minute. I have not doubt that once you are there the experience is top-notch and something you'll never forget, but I have a hard time rationalizing the fact that I'd have to plan a golf trip (especially within the continental US) up to two years before I can actually take it.

 

All that being said I do hope to get to go one day. Maybe the shine will wear off in a few years and it will be something that can be planned in the winter and taken the next summer.

[buzlin]

Just caught up on the last few pages.  All good discussions, and as Spud mentioned, these are the details that get obsessed over by regulars, and shouldn't discourage anyone from planning a trip.  

 

I think the last days of each month (or first in the fall) book really quickly.  I was on hold for 45 minutes on NYD, gave up and left a message and filled out their online reservation form.  I got called back yesterday afternoon.  The very last days of April were basically booked up, only CL lofts available, so I had to move us back a few days.  Even then, the most affordable rooms were Golf Doubles at the Inn.  

 

I wonder what the secrets are for booking February for instance.  Email, call, fill out their form before the end of the year?  We have February for this year, but seems impossible to get it moving forward (especially the very end of Feb when 36 is easier to get in), unless you know some secret.

 

I take it our west coast governors are still allowing travelers to the resort?  Here in Ca, we're not "allowed" to even make hotel reservations outside our county (or something like that).

 

 

[Slippin_Jimmy]

16 hours ago, Chanceman said:

Also thinking of a late round at Bandon Crossings one day - anyone comment on that?

 

Hey Chanceman, Crossings is worth a trip if your legs need a breather.  It's a nice course, but definitely not the same caliber as any of the Bandon Dunes courses.  The major benefit is that you can take a cart.  There's some similarity to Trails, but IMO Trails is a significantly better experience.  If you have played either Langdon Farms or Florence Golf Links on the way down to Bandon, I would say that both of those are comparable courses to Crossings.  It will be less expensive, but not by too much if you are playing Crossings instead of an afternoon replay round.

[schneidm10]

One question I would pose is if people have more issues booking tee times or getting lodging? Reason why I ask is I wonder if the bottleneck is lodging, given that they opened a new course and only opened a small portion of new lodging. I’ve talked with some others on this and personally, I think they need open another hotel style option to help with the additional rounds at Sheep Ranch. I may be off here but was just curious what others thought. 

[buzlin]

Sheep Ranch, the US Am, hopeful end of the quarantine and cancelled trips, and increased interest in golf in general are all leading to the increase imo.  

 

From a business standpoint, additional lodging may make financial sense at first, but I'm wondering if having more people will take away some of the magic.  I've never been in the high season, so maybe it's more hectic already, but part of appeal for me is how chill is seems.

[dcmidnight]

When I was there in October their tee sheets at all 5 courses were full, even when we asked about a swap for weather - no dice, completely full.

 

I know they are already building a handful of rooms at Round Lake. But if their tee sheets are completely full with the current lodging setup, doesn't seem to me that adding more rooms to the mix makes sense for them - or for the guests already there. They seem to have reached a balance point where their lodging will accommodate a full tee sheet.

 

Now maybe the RL rooms allow a few people staying in town to stay onsite. But it doesnt seem like there is a need for a large scale solution - IE another 50+ rooms.

[ALTSean]

I have not been to Bandon yet, but am scheduled to go with a group this November.  Do you guys know or have the sense that they plan to limit on site lodging in order to allow folks to play 36 a day?  It seems like that is the goal now and it would be unfortunate if they built up lodging so much that it limited folks to only 18 a day.  

[mci711]

14 minutes ago, ALTSean said:

I have not been to Bandon yet, but am scheduled to go with a group this November.  Do you guys know or have the sense that they plan to limit on site lodging in order to allow folks to play 36 a day?  It seems like that is the goal now and it would be unfortunate if they built up lodging so much that it limited folks to only 18 a day.  

 

I have never had or never heard of anyone having issues getting 36 in during the spring/summer. Plenty of daylight and course, no matter the lodging situation. 36 in winter you basically need the first tee time in the morning and the last guaranteed 18 tee time in the afternoon (around noon probably). Packed lodging or not it doesn't really matter. 

Edited January 5, 2021 by mci711

[mallrat]

8 minutes ago, ALTSean said:

I have not been to Bandon yet, but am scheduled to go with a group this November.  Do you guys know or have the sense that they plan to limit on site lodging in order to allow folks to play 36 a day?  It seems like that is the goal now and it would be unfortunate if they built up lodging so much that it limited folks to only 18 a day.  

I don’t think they would ever want to limit their guests ability to golf. Playing 36 or 54 is all $ to them. That’s why they have discounted replay rates. 
 

Bandon will always have 2 groups I guess you could call it. There are the hardcore golfers who want to play as much as physically possible and there are the buddies who want to hang out with the golfers or the group. These guys generally play 18 and then join back up with the hardcore golfers on PunchBowl after they have already had a few. It seems like they are more common on the weekends when they can sit at the bar after their round. 
 

The biggest limit on 36 is daylight. Right now there are only 2 or 3 groups a day that get afternoon guaranteed to finish times. In Dec I was the 3rd group off on Sheep Ranch. We finished in just under 4 hours. I hustled over to Bandon Dunes and walked right on as a single. Played the front in like an hour and a half or so. Now it’s 2:30ish. I caught a group on 7 and they were not moving fast at all and there were groups in front of them so I decided to call it. 

[VNutz]

33 minutes ago, mci711 said:

 

I have never had or never heard of anyone having issues getting 36 in during the spring/summer. Plenty of daylight and course, no matter the lodging situation. 36 in winter you basically need the first tee time in the morning and the last guaranteed 18 tee time in the afternoon (around noon probably). Packed lodging or not it doesn't really matter. 

 

They won't let people out just to see if they can make it. They've got their set cutoffs times and usually don't budge. The bigger issue is that without carts they don't want people stuck out there in the dark trying to find their way in. I've definitely seen people finishing in the dark to the point that I was on the Bandon porch and could only hear people coming up 18.

 

Last trip was in November 2019 and we had 4 times starting at 8 am on Pacific. I don't remember if those were the first times off but I think I remember groups going off ahead of us. We had no problem when we finished calling around for what was available and finishing 18 on Old Mac. We even sat around a bit at Old Mac eating before and after before daylight faded. There were people out behind us too, so while things do have to line up right it's not impossible to do 36 in a day in the winter if things line up right. Closer to December might be more of an issue.

[ALTSean]

38 minutes ago, mallrat said:

I don’t think they would ever want to limit their guests ability to golf. Playing 36 or 54 is all $ to them. That’s why they have discounted replay rates. 
 

Bandon will always have 2 groups I guess you could call it. There are the hardcore golfers who want to play as much as physically possible and there are the buddies who want to hang out with the golfers or the group. These guys generally play 18 and then join back up with the hardcore golfers on PunchBowl after they have already had a few. It seems like they are more common on the weekends when they can sit at the bar after their round. 
 

The biggest limit on 36 is daylight. Right now there are only 2 or 3 groups a day that get afternoon guaranteed to finish times. In Dec I was the 3rd group off on Sheep Ranch. We finished in just under 4 hours. I hustled over to Bandon Dunes and walked right on as a single. Played the front in like an hour and a half or so. Now it’s 2:30ish. I caught a group on 7 and they were not moving fast at all and there were groups in front of them so I decided to call it. 

 

I hope that is the case that they don't ever limit the ability for folks to play 36+, but I don't think it is because of money.  Assuming strong demand, they could make the most money by building additional lodging, fully booking the lodging and filling the tee sheets at all 5 courses.  Arbitrary numbers for argument's sake, but 100 people are going to spend more total dollars per day for a room and 1 round of golf than 50 people are going to spend on a room, a round of golf and then a replay rate.  Packing the resort like that would change the character of the place and hopefully it does not happen, but I was just curious if they have stated that they want the goal to continue to be that guys can play 36+.  

[buzlin]

Can anyone confirm what happens when you choose not to play a round during your stay?  I know you can cancel the replay rounds without penalty.  But what about the first round of the day?  We're debating playing the morning of departure, which will include an 8 hr drive home.  If we choose not to play, what's the deal?  Credit for future trips?  Proshop credit for that day and beyond?  etc.....

 

While I'm at it, what is the policy on The Preserve as a third round of the day?

Edited January 5, 2021 by buzlin