Fade bias driver discussion

[raine72]

Curious what you all think is most fade bias driver out there now.  I am down to callaway max ls, ping lst and tsi3 or your recommendation.  Our state open is at a course with huge dogleg rights and am trying to find a driver I can just hit silly fades/slices with.  I play epic flash sub zero with ventus blue 6x right now but have very hard time moving it left to right.  

[craz-e]

Probably the original SIM driver set open and weight in the toe 

You could modify your driver with a bit of lead tape towards the toe and even changing to a thicker grip 

Edited June 20, 2021 by craz-e

[phizzy30]

Add TSi4 to that list.  One of the more fade biased modern drivers I have tested.

[goheels11]

I have the original SIM Max set to a bit lower and agree with @craz-e   Easy to move left to right and the sound is great to my ears. 

[fujiman.757]

Callaway Max LS most fade biased driver ive played ever 

[hagimihale]

2 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

Add TSi4 to that list.  One of the more fade biased modern drivers I have tested.

 

TS4 before it was also fade-biased.  Most courses near me favor fades over draws off the tee.  I gamed a TS4 + HZRDUS Smoke Black combo for most of 2020 with good results.  

[Righty to Lefty]

It depends on your release pattern. For instance if you toe weight a club that can be used to hit high draws or high fades because it will help to keep the face open adding loft to the shot. Conversely heel weighting a club can help to hit lower draws or lower fades because the toe of the club will close at a faster rate. That being said it is more about understanding your own release pattern and setting up your equipment to suit that release pattern.  

[Phabs]

Orig Sim… by far. 

[getitdaily]

OG sim.

 

But why not just deloft that ef sz and put the weight in the toe.

[MPAndreassi]

I’ve been playing the TSi3 all season and I wouldn’t really call it fade biased, it’s very neutral. I played G410 LST last season (same shaft as my Titleist now) and the was definitely more fade biased. The OG SIM, as the others have mentioned, is definitely the most fade biased I’ve hit in the last two years though. 

[raine72]

Thanks everyone for the input.  Looks like orig sim is the way to go appreciate the input.  

[ak90]

I like the TSI3 as a fade biased setup... turn the weight all the way to the toe and open the face angle with surefit. I have played one in 9 and 8* with various shafts since they were released and have been very pleased.

 

 

[ak90]

Would NOT opt for tsi4 over the 3 for any reason. Sound is worse, less forgiving, and spin is basically the same. Looks worse to my eye as well

[Mookieb10]

It seems like you have quite a few votes for the og sim, but I thought the g400lst was quite fade bised. 8.5* lofted down to 7.5* with a Ventus Black 7x, tipped 1.5” and 1/2” shorter than you usually play your driver, switch the back weight for a 3g lighter weight then put 5.5grams of hot melt into the toe. 

[Potch]

Probably way too old to be considered, but if you want an inexpensive experiment the Burner Superfast 2.0 TP is legendarily fade-biased (and the old threads on here about it are fantastic).

[adamnbomb]

I recently set up a G410 LST with a Diamana D+ Plus Limited TX. Extremely consistent and does not go left. I think the trick to making it truly fade biased is matching it with a slightly stiffer or heavier shaft to really take out the left side

[Rosco1216]

most fade biased I have hit is the Cobra LTD Pro.

[gjunky]

PXG Proto +

 

Even with the weights in the neutral setting but you always have the option to move the heavy weight to the toe.