Firmer forged irons

[bbspeer]

Looking for recommendations for forged irons to try, as I’ve realized that I prefer “firm” feeling over “soft”. To me, I describe firm as (heavy, solid, pure, dense) as opposed to soft which feels (light, hollow, mushy). Think T100 vs ZX7.

 

Preferably players CB or MB with a touch of forgiveness.

Edited February 9, 2022 by bbspeer

[gripandrip]

You consider ZX7 to be "light, hollow, mushy"?

 

[bbspeer]

Just now, gripandrip said:

You consider ZX7 to be "light, hollow, mushy"?

 

I do

[Kmagnuss]

Grip has A LOT to do with how a club feels.  For instance... Winn Dri-Tac feels SUPER soft on my irons.  When I had some more standard type grips (can't remember the type now) the same clubs felt much firmer.  You probably already know that but threw it out there anyway.

 

-Mag

[PEI_Golfer]

Although you said you want to move away from Titleist, have you hit the 620s as they pretty much fit the bill for newer released irons (beautiful looking clubs).  Personal opinion, but I've usually found TM CB's to be on the 'firmer' side as well, but haven't played a set since the '14s and only tested some out.

[rainkingjr]

Get a set of Maltby TE forged or DBMs. Forged out of 1035. Plenty of forgiveness  and they fit the bill as far as the feel you are after. Price is amazing as well. 

[bbspeer]

Forgot to quote, disregard

Edited February 9, 2022 by bbspeer

[Cruisin1966]

If I had a recommendation to make, it would be the P7TW's, or something Miura (TC201,MB101)

[bbspeer]

10 minutes ago, PEI_Golfer said:

Although you said you want to move away from Titleist, have you hit the 620s as they pretty much fit the bill for newer released irons (beautiful looking clubs).  Personal opinion, but I've usually found TM CB's to be on the 'firmer' side as well, but haven't played a set since the '14s and only tested some out.

I have and like you said they do fit the bill pretty well. If they weren’t Titleist. Nothing against them I’m just wanting to branch out and try some other OEM’s

[bbspeer]

3 minutes ago, rainkingjr said:

Get a set of Maltby TE forged or DBMs. Forged out of 1035. Plenty of forgiveness  and they fit the bill as far as the feel you are after. Price is amazing as well. 

 

1 minute ago, Cruisin1966 said:

If I had a recommendation to make, it would be the P7TW's, or something Miura (TC201,MB101)

I forgot to add the caveat that I’m a lefty 😂 thank you for the suggestions though! 

[KingTitus]

Miura offers the CB-801 or TB-901 for lefties. Went from Srixon to Miura myself and have become obsessed with the dense feeling. 

[Cruisin1966]

23 minutes ago, bbspeer said:

 

I forgot to add the caveat that I’m a lefty 😂 thank you for the suggestions though! 

Sure, make it more difficult.  lol

[DFS PFD]

Pretty much anything Miura fits the bill for firm and forged

[Pepperturbo]

2 hours ago, bbspeer said:

Looking for recommendations for forged irons to try, as I’ve realized that I prefer “firm” feeling over “soft”. To me, I describe firm as (heavy, solid, pure, dense) as opposed to soft which feels (light, hollow, mushy). Think T100 vs ZX7.

 

Preferably players CB or MB with a touch of forgiveness.

IMO what you're talking about is how the ball feels and sounds at impact.  First, feel and sound depend on the ball profile.  I am 100% feel player that focuses on ball striking.  I like firm impact cause impact vibrations feed up the shaft to my hands, telling me what happened at impact and what the ball is going to do down range.  I don't have to look up to know.  My chosen irons are 620 MB which talk to me.  

 

It sounds like a heavier weighted forged type head is what you want.  However, a touch of forgiveness is a subjective variable.  I leaned golf with older forged MB heads.  If I compare older to newer CAD designed MB heads, my current MB heads are a tad more forgiving, because CAD allowed the designer to create a different internal design.

 

PS; forgot to mention I have set of 620 CBs that essentially feel and play like 620 MBs, as they were designed to blend with MBs.  They may be worth looking into.

 

 

Edited February 9, 2022 by Pepperturbo

[m_w]

T100, i59, 620 CB

Edited February 9, 2022 by m_w

[jomatty]

Miura or Ping i59 but feel/sound is so subjective.  Many describe Miura as sof but to me they feel dense.  Wonderfully dense and not super soft.  Ymmv

[Pepperturbo]

1 minute ago, jomatty said:

Miura or Ping i59 but feel/sound is so subjective.  Many describe Miura as sof but to me they feel dense.  Wonderfully dense and not super soft.  Ymmv

Agree with that assessment.  They B dense. 😛

 

[DFS PFD]

1 minute ago, jomatty said:

Miura or Ping i59 but feel/sound is so subjective.  Many describe Miura as sof but to me they feel dense.  Wonderfully dense and not super soft.  Ymmv

I've not seen many people describe Miura as "soft", I think the best way to describe them would be "solid". Obviously everyone is different, but soft would not be in the conversation of Miura typically. 

[BraxtonFullerton]

W/S. Blades or the CBs.

[Pepperturbo]

3 minutes ago, DFS PFD said:

I've not seen many people describe Miura as "soft", I think the best way to describe them would be "solid". Obviously everyone is different, but soft would not be in the conversation of Miura typically. 

They are solid, actually heavier than other heads.

[Notashank]

Ping blueprint. Anything ping. 

[spartyjeff]

IMO shaft plays a role in this as well. The stiffer more boards shaft is going to make you feel it in your hands a bit more. 

 

BUT I loved my Bridgestone J33's that were forged. A little bit firmer but man did they feel good. Soun makes no difference to me it's all about feel

[bbspeer]

1 hour ago, DFS PFD said:

Pretty much anything Miura fits the bill for firm and forged

 

1 hour ago, m_w said:

T100, i59, 620 CB

 

19 minutes ago, jomatty said:

Miura or Ping i59 but feel/sound is so subjective.  Many describe Miura as sof but to me they feel dense.  Wonderfully dense and not super soft.  Ymmv

 

13 minutes ago, BraxtonFullerton said:

W/S. Blades or the CBs.

Thanks everyone, the i59 and Miura will definitely be added to the top of the demo list. Speaking of which, does anyone know which fitters carry Miura?

[rainkingjr]

If you are a lefty, then I second the Wilson offerings. Finds some FG tour V6. Best CB ever in my opinion

[Cruisin1966]

9 minutes ago, rainkingjr said:

If you are a lefty, then I second the Wilson offerings. Finds some FG tour V6. Best CB ever in my opinion

Enjoying my FG Tour v6 raw irons now

[aenemated]

I've always found Titleist irons overall to be pretty firm. Which is largely why despite loving the look, I've never been able to game them. And this goes back to the like OG DCI days. 

[Barracuda]

Miura

[JahSteve]

Miura and hogans are the only forged  irons i have really used. I also use a mizuno JPX 919 F GW but not sure it fits your bill. 

Hogan is very budget friendly.

Edited February 9, 2022 by JahSteve

[BraxtonFullerton]

36 minutes ago, rainkingjr said:

If you are a lefty, then I second the Wilson offerings. Finds some FG tour V6. Best CB ever in my opinion

 

That's what I thought too. I love the CBs even more, just slightly thicker top-line gives me more confidence with the 4 & 5 irons.

[SwingBlade]

So many adjectives and descriptors that could easily mean different things to each player.  Started out years ago with Titleist MB blades and CBs which I personally would have described describe as slightly harsh because of the vibration transmitted whether using Project X of TT shafts.  After that phase moved to mostly Mizuno blades and CBs and occasionally Miura CBs.

 

The Miuras in particular are often more described as “sweet” which many interpret as vibrationless.  When nutted, It’s often like the club head embraces the ball and sends it down range without any harshness being transmitted through the shaft and grip to your hands.   But, different types of shafts and grips will definitely impact such feelings in a significant way, so with both Miuras and Mizunos, shaft selection is critical to achieve the desired feel each of us seeks.   
 

Edited February 9, 2022 by SwingBlade