Rahm pulls out of TGL indoor

[Wasted_Talent]

Didn't they offer Tiger $750M?  No way Rahm is worth $600 in value.  Dude is going to look like Darren Clark within 6 months of signing.

[Tiptx1122]

On 11/2/2023 at 12:58 PM, DRex said:

Just one more small reason to add to my dislike of Rahm.

why he has good reason not to play, TGL is just another exhibition like LIV. The PGA tour should have just allowed their players to play where they want. 

[aus10KC]

All he does is whine and complain. Go to LIV and shut up!

[Tiptx1122]

Just now, Wasted_Talent said:

Didn't they offer Tiger $750M?  No way Rahm is worth $600 in value.  Dude is going to look like Darren Clark within 6 months of signing.

Well Tiger isn't worth $750M he is pretty much done as all he can do is exhibition golf now, why do you think he is behind this TGL. The Golf scene is getting to be nothing but a joke as the Greed continues to grow here in the States. 

[Tiptx1122]

1 minute ago, aus10KC said:

All he does is whine and complain. Go to LIV and shut up!

Oh and he is the only one who has been complaining lately right. 

[Wasted_Talent]

1 minute ago, Tiptx1122 said:

Well Tiger isn't worth $750M he is pretty much done as all he can do is exhibition golf now, why do you think he is behind this TGL. The Golf scene is getting to be nothing but a joke as the Greed continues to grow here in the States. 

 

Having access to Tiger's brand may have been worth it to them.  

[js707]

Rahm might not be worth 600 million in the traditional sense, but in terms of timing the impact would be large. It feels like LIV needs to make a big splash to continue to stay relevant. 

[Soloman1]

9 minutes ago, MaineMariner said:

Jon Rahm’s children’s children’s children’s children’s children are set for life.

 

Most wealth is peed away when the grandkids have finished flushing it away.

[Tiptx1122]

1 minute ago, Wasted_Talent said:

 

Having access to Tiger's brand may have been worth it to them.  

Well we all just need to wait and see how this all unfolds as far as Rahm joining LIV that too is what we need to do is wait and see as Phil is a BS artist 

[khalespace]

14 minutes ago, Wasted_Talent said:

Didn't they offer Tiger $750M?  No way Rahm is worth $600 in value.  Dude is going to look like Darren Clark within 6 months of signing.

I have never tuned in to watch Rahm. Of course, PGA Tour losing a #2 player is not good but many will not seek out a LIV broadcast to watch Rahm.

[Wasted_Talent]

2 minutes ago, khalespace said:

I have never tuned in to watch Rahm. Of course, PGA Tour losing a #2 player is not good but many will not seek out a LIV broadcast to watch Rahm.

 

Agreed.  Xander and Cantlay also fall into this category for me.

[Tiptx1122]

1 hour ago, Titleist99 said:

While I whole heartedly agree with you, here's the problem:

 

they take the money, but they don't run. They continue to come back and trash the PGAT. Nothing wrong with taking the bag, but please, please go away.

 

Most LIV golfers feel it's their duty to convince the rest of the public how great the other tour is, maybe they're contractually obligated to do so, but I find those efforts more like snake oil salesmen.😀

Isn't this similar to what we do when certain fan boys want to brag on a certain OEM that they play and try to convince people how much better their brand is better than anyone else. Now the only exception is now you're dealing with millionaires bragging on their tour over the PGA. Tell me this if it's not true, hasn't certain players on LIV already made much more money than they have in all the years they played on the PGA tour.  All thanks to GREED This country has become so divided among itself and other countries that the only opinion that will matter is the one who is making the most money  

[Titleist99]

4 minutes ago, Tiptx1122 said:

Isn't this similar to what we do when certain fan boys want to brag on a certain OEM that they play and try to convince people how much better their brand is better than anyone else. Now the only exception is now you're dealing with millionaires bragging on their tour over the PGA. Tell me this if it's not true, hasn't certain players on LIV already made much more money than they have in all the years they played on the PGA tour.  All thanks to GREED This country has become so divided among itself and other countries that the only opinion that will matter is the one who is making the most money  

Is it really Greed or is it opportunity? You have a rogue nation of bad actors😆 trying to buy your sport whether you want to sell it or not. The PGAT will be fine, once they figure out a way to retain its talent the other tour will perish because poaching is the only way they can survive. 

[MaineMariner]

1 hour ago, Soloman1 said:

 

Most wealth is peed away when the grandkids have finished flushing it away.

Heh, I thought about adding the caveat “assuming they act remotely reasonable”. Which probably doesn’t happen when you’re several generations deep and have lost all concept of the meaning of having and not having money.

[Tiptx1122]

1 hour ago, Titleist99 said:

Is it really Greed or is it opportunity? You have a rogue nation of bad actors😆 trying to buy your sport whether you want to sell it or not. The PGAT will be fine, once they figure out a way to retain its talent the other tour will perish because poaching is the only way they can survive. 

I'm not sure if the other Tour will perish as we will have to wait and see. The way I see it is the only way the PGAT can retain its talent is by dangling the carrot/money or as you called it poaching as Money talks and BS walks. It's getting to be a circus out there in the Golfing World that only the rich are going to survive all because of GREED 

[Soloman1]

People come and go in everything - sports, business, entertainment, politics, everything.

 

And things roll along with a new batch of people and new customers.

 

The PGA Tour is in the entertainment business more than sports.

 

Too many businesses now try to give the customer what they think the customers wants, instead of giving them what they want.

 

If you build it, they will come.

 

Just get on with it. Everyone is expendable.

[Titleist99]

8 minutes ago, Tiptx1122 said:

I'm not sure if the other Tour will perish as we will have to wait and see. The way I see it is the only way the PGAT can retain its talent is by dangling the carrot/money or as you called it poaching as Money talks and BS walks. It's getting to be a circus out there in the Golfing World that only the rich are going to survive all because of GREED 

I believe LIV golf was on the ropes before the Alliance agreement. No viewership, No sponsors, No new signings, an embarrassing agreement with the CW, and the scorn of the golf world with Greg N. circling the drain.

 

At that point, the PGAT was operating from a position of strength. They were able to get rid of the lawsuits and have access to new revenue. Perfect!

 

All they had to do was endure being called a Hypocrite.😆

 

Now guess what? The membership is voting on whether to take the money or not (which they will)

[fixyurdivot]

Rumor has it Jon has already called Pat about interest in joining team "Money for Nuttin".

 

[Mtn_Mikey]

Personally, if he decides to go to LIV, which for his golf legacy I hope he doesn't--fine.

 

The talent pool coming in from the Korn Ferry Tour and PGA University is immense. 

[TiScape]

1 hour ago, fixyurdivot said:

Rumor has it Jon has already called Pat about interest in joining team "Money for Nuttin”.

 

But their chicks sure aren’t free! 

[Duct Tape]

Cue Knopfler singing, “I want my LIV”. 

[Shilgy]

9 hours ago, js707 said:

Rahm might not be worth 600 million in the traditional sense, but in terms of timing the impact would be large. It feels like LIV needs to make a big splash to continue to stay relevant. 

How do you stay something you’ve never been?  Some may still care about some of the players but how many really care about LIV as a whole or their “favorite “ team?

[Fairways_and_Greens]

59 minutes ago, Duct Tape said:

Cue Knopfler singing, “I want my LIV”. 

Queue?

[BlackDiamondPar5]

1 hour ago, Duct Tape said:

Cue Knopfler singing, “I want my LIV”. 

But unlike LIV people actual watched MTV😂😂

[leezer99]

9 hours ago, Fairways_and_Greens said:

Queue?

This is a reference to Mark Knopfler, the lead singer from Dire Straits who sang Money For Nothing, which I'm assuming was a reply to @fixyurdivot

 

And if you neglect to put him in your top ten guitarists of all time then we're going to have a problem. 

[Soloman1]

10 hours ago, Fairways_and_Greens said:

Queue?

 

No, cue. Unless people are lining up for a Dire Straits concert.

[Holy Moses]

On 11/23/2023 at 10:06 AM, Wasted_Talent said:

Didn't they offer Tiger $750M?  No way Rahm is worth $600 in value.  Dude is going to look like Darren Clark within 6 months of signing.

None of the players they got will bring them any a net profit, which is why LIV is trying to force the PGA Tour to bail them out

Edited November 24, 2023 by Holy Moses

[st1800e]

On 11/23/2023 at 9:10 AM, Tiptx1122 said:

Well Tiger isn't worth $750M he is pretty much done as all he can do is exhibition golf now, why do you think he is behind this TGL. The Golf scene is getting to be nothing but a joke as the Greed continues to grow here in the States. 

I recall that the offer to Tiger was to be the commissioner.  They also made an offer to Jack for the same position.  

[leezer99]

1 hour ago, st1800e said:

I recall that the offer to Tiger was to be the commissioner.  They also made an offer to Jack for the same position.  

 

And it would have been accepted right off the bat had either been the commish... further proves Sharky and his vendetta is the problem. 

[golfheaven69]

Rahm said he loved playing for championships. Good luck disappearing.