VOTE: What's the Best Driver of 2017?

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  • NutinpaNutinpa Members  2WRX Points: 40Posts: 2 Starters
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    Coppy wrote:


    It's not the club head, they're all pretty good. It's the shaft.



    Oban purple for me.


    Awesome shaft company.....but as I recall it, a super high premium,mini-mortgage for the upgrade. I just don't play enough to justify it.
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  • meyerssrmeyerssr Members  46WRX Points: 60Posts: 46 Bunkers
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    I have also Hit nearly all of these drivers. I am biased towards the Callaways, but having sold golf equipment for 13 years now, I saw the biggest technology boost this year in the last couple. Everyone has a different swing and those different clubs will balance better too them. realistically almost any of these drivers could be comparable if they are custom fit properly. I have an EPIC Sub Zero that blew all of these other clubs out of the water when fit. Spin rate is still high, but that is my swing unfortunately. The Sub-Zero was on average 12.2 yards longer than the best fitting M1 I tried. I have also converted 2 of my 3 friends who bought M1s this year to already replace them, the other, the M1 just fit better. If there was one driver that was truelly better than all the others out there, the market would go lopsided and companies would stop making drivers (obviously exaggerated but you catch the point).



    Driver Sound (Feel):

    In all my years of custom fitting, I have always explained to players that sound is feel, and it is also variable. When you swap out shafts in a golf club you essentially re-tune the vibration from impact through a new channel of carbon weaving in the shaft, altering the sound. This is a constant battle for fitting, as you can fit someone to the right shaft, but then they don't like the feel of the club, when in reality their launching specs are spot on. I have also seen it the other way... a gentlemen hit one ball with a driver I gave him, turned around and shook his head; Said he hated the way it sounded. I swapped out the shaft for something that fit him better after a quick analysis on one swing (yeah sometimes that's all you get), and gave him the same driver. He didn't even look at what I gave him, just swung it, loved it, and wanted to buy it on the spot. When I told him it was the same driver he hit the first time, he didn't really have words to explain it, but loved the club and bought it.



    This is why I selected the Callaway EPIC Sub-Zero as my favorite driver. You hit this club with a variety of shafts and while the sound changes it still feels very rock solid and firm at impact. I was worried that this "Players" version would sacrifice forgiveness, but in the short sample size I have so far, it sacrifices nothing over the standard EPIC in forgiveness.



    Overall:

    Go get custom fit, it makes a difference, and try everything!
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  • meyerssrmeyerssr Members  46WRX Points: 60Posts: 46 Bunkers
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    Oh but some drivers you just can't save the sound... Thank you Nike for the Sasquatch, a sound that is not salvageable but we all know!
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  • misplacedtexan83misplacedtexan83 Members  15696WRX Points: 639Posts: 15,696 Titanium Tees
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    Chose all of the Callaway drivers...



    1/2. EPIC GBB/Sub Zero pushed the envelop in design and materials to produce increased ball speed and gains. For once a driver did what a company said it would do.



    3. Uber forgiving but this started the ability for us mere mortals to get a sub 45 driver (44.5) stock from factory. Callaway listen and carried it over to the EPIC line... bravo!
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    Callaway Mavrik SZ *9.0 w/ UST Attas 11
    Callaway Mavrik *15 w/ UST Attas 11
    Callaway Mavrik *18 w/ UST Attas 11
    Callaway 19' Apex Pros 4-Pw/ UST Recoil 125 Protos F4 
    Callaway MD5 50W & 54W & 58X w/ UST Recoil 125
    protos F4

    Tyson Lamb Customed Allendale
    #lookatthebaby #teamcallaway
  • plusforeplusfore Members  235WRX Points: 50Handicap: 11Posts: 235 Fairways
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    1- Titleist 910D2

    2- Titleist 910D2

    3- Titleist 910D2



    this will still be your best choice for 2017....
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    Titleist TS2 Graphite Design Tour AD 60
    Titleist 910F 15* Diamana Kai'li 75
    Cobra Fly-Z 5W stock shaft
    Titleist 913H 24* Diamana Kai'li 82HY
    Ben Hogan Apex Edge 5i-E graphite #4 shafts
    Titleist SM7 50*  54*  58*
    PING Ally3 / Odyssey 1W putter
    PRO V1x - Wilson DUO
    Sun Mountain C-130 bag
  • JwowzerJwowzer Members  319WRX Points: 30Posts: 319 Greens
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    swizbeatz wrote:



    is this not a bit daft? Unless you have tested all of the above drivers how can you make an informed choice?



    Surely this should be a poll of the most popular driver rather than the best. WRX will be giving out gold, silver and bronze medals next.




    Yep. Fun little poll but really doesn't mean anything. Better off doing what Wrx has done in the past and giving this poll to professional club fitters.




    I volunteer!
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    917D3 8.5* Atmos Blue 6X
    917F2 15* Motore Speeder 7.2 X
    915Hd 20.5* Rogue Black 85 S
    716 AP2 4-PW Project X LZ 5.5 tipped .5"
    Vokey SM6 50.12* F, TVD 54* K 58* K
    Bettinardi Kuchar Model 2 KBS Tour Custom Black/Blue 34"
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  • hamish2hamish2 Members  4WRX Points: 25Handicap: 6Posts: 4 Starters
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    Didnt vote for any of them.



    Best of this lot are M1 and Cally Epic I suspect, but I have tried both and they cant "hold a candle" to my Cally V series 9.5 with Speeder 565 stiff for a 95 MPH swing speed.



    My thoughts on the new tech? If Callaway made a proper titanium crown in the first place, they wouldnt get "Crown distortion" at impact and the jailbreak bars would be redundant. Its a case of; fix a weak crown with an otherwise unnecessary feature which probably creates other imbalances!



    Bet you all two bob that this feature will quietly disappear within two club cycles! image/derisive.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':derisive:' />
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  • mwmgolfxmwmgolfx Members  459WRX Points: 62Handicap: 6Posts: 459 Greens
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    I have tried several of these drivers and so far none of them exceed the distance and accuracy of my TM r7-425. But I liked the feel and shot pattern of the new TM M1 and M2 drivers a lot. I tested both Callaway drivers and the launch was way way way lower and the overall flight characteristics were lousy. Would have needed to go to a 11.5 or even higher degree driver to get even a reasonable distance loss of about 15-20%. And considering i don't hit it that far any way (under 200 usually), that's totally unacceptable.



    Bridgestone drivers all felt tinny. Cobra and titleist just don't have the distance needed. All way less than current.



    I really would switch as soon as I find one that consistently is longer than my current one. I want more than 180 yard average. But todays just don't provide that.
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  • MSchadMSchad Members  299WRX Points: 50Posts: 299 Greens
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    Seriously! Season just starting and picking best driver of the year?? Ask it after everyone has used their choices all year.
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    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Taylormade M2[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Nike Sumo 3w, 5w[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Nike CPR 26*[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Mizuno JPX-EZ Forged, 5-PW[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Cleveland 588 RTX 50,54,58[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Scotty Futura X7M DB[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Precision Pro NX7 Pro[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Arccos Game Tracker[/font]
  • Mwiseley10Mwiseley10 Members  10WRX Points: 30Handicap: 2.9Posts: 10 Bunkers
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    I tested both epics, both new M1 and M2, titleist 917, cobra f7+.... I got the best ball speeds from the taylormade drivers, love the sound of the epics but couldn't get the same ball speeds. The cobra and titleist were just behind the epic for me.



    However, my 2016 M1 produced exactly the same ball speed as this years M1. (160). The spin rate on the 2017 averaged about -10 rpm and sounds noticeably better but I couldn't justify replacing my gamer at $500 for -10 and better sound.
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    Taylormade M1- diamana whiteboard x-stiff set at 6.5*
    Titleist 915 13.5*- diamana whiteboard x-stiff
    Callaway apex/pro combo set- project x 6.5
    Callaway Mack daddy 50, 54, 58
    Odyssey works versa
  • slackorslackor Members  4WRX Points: 0Posts: 4
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    I wanted to vote but I didn't see the Taylor Made R7. I would have voted for 3 different models, since I have 3 different models.
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    Wilson triton with 10 votes huh? Looks like all the Wilson office staff was forced to vote on lunch this week. Haha
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  • jacot23jacot23 Members  1317WRX Points: 0Posts: 1,317 Bunkers
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    Since I HAD to pick 3.



    1. Mizuno JPX 900

    2. Mizuno JPX 900

    3. Mizuno JPX 900



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    But I couldn't do that so I picked:



    1. Mizuno JPX 900

    2. M1 460

    3. M1 440



    The M1 sounds better and is basically the same length for me (250ish total). The Mizuno has the edge in looks and forgiveness.



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    Mizuno JPX-900 Driver Graphite Design Nano Reloaded S flex 44.75"
    Callaway X2Hot 17* fairway
    Adams Tight Lies 3&4 hybrid
    Cobra King F7 irons 4-PW
    Vokey SM6 50*& 56*(raw) wedges
    34" Machine M2 Converter Aluminum Bronze w/center shaft hosel,
    Steelfiber i110 S flex tipped 2.5",
    Winn mid size pistol grip.

    WITB
  • dcorundcorun Members  371WRX Points: 60Handicap: 13Posts: 371 Greens
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    I voted for the F7, Z565 and M2-D. The reason I did is because they are the 3 I will test my R15/Accra F150 M3 against. Nothing last year beat it bad enough to buy a new one so, I'll see if these three can. I may also give the Epic a try but, it seems all drivers now have some internal something or other so, I'll see how the jailbreak does against my current driver.
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    Driver - Cleveland Launcher Turbo 10.5* Miyazaki 5R
    Hybrid - Cleveland Halo #2 16* Miyazaki 6R
    Irons - Cleveland CBX 4-PW Miyazaki 6R
    Wedges - Cleveland CBX 50* & 54* Rotex
    Putter - Cleveland Frontline Elevado
    Ball - Srixon Z-Star
  • jtmagicjtmagic TexasMembers  913WRX Points: 93Posts: 913 Golden Tee
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    TM M2.
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    shame no love for the Srixon 565
    I feel the same way. If Srixon would get into the US market more, I feel golfers would find out what outstanding golf clubs they make.
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    Driver - Cleveland Launcher Turbo 10.5* Miyazaki 5R
    Hybrid - Cleveland Halo #2 16* Miyazaki 6R
    Irons - Cleveland CBX 4-PW Miyazaki 6R
    Wedges - Cleveland CBX 50* & 54* Rotex
    Putter - Cleveland Frontline Elevado
    Ball - Srixon Z-Star
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  • ZBigStickZBigStick Practice Perfect Form Members  5315WRX Points: 76Posts: 5,315 Titanium Tees
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    M1 460 gave me the best results. Was able to increase launch without much added spin with the T slide weight. Feel is good and felt forgiving, dispersion results backing that up.

    Epic SZ is solid, but feels harsher and was not as forgiving or optimized.

    M2 feels great, can hit it all over the face, was not able to dial in as well as the M1, feels light.
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    M5 9˚ GD IZ-6
    BB Alpha 816 16˚(15˚) Rogue I/O 70
    Apex 20˚ Kuro Kage Black 80
    Z U45 23˚ Steelfiber i95
    Z 745 5-PW Steelfiber i110 cw
    RTX-4 50˚M, 56˚F (55˚), 60˚F S400 TI
    O-Works V-Line Fang
    Pro V1x
    Oakley Targetline Prizm Golf Dark
  • HotdoctaHotdocta Members  294WRX Points: 83Handicap: -8.3Posts: 294 Greens
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    I hit m1 460 and sub zero almost identical. I thought the m1 looks nicer while the sub zero has a slightly better feel. After hitting both drivers over hundreds of shots, I could not decide so I win with the one that looked better - m1 460.

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  • 2Down2Down Members  267WRX Points: 117Handicap: 4.2Posts: 267 Greens
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    Ping g lst as it is in the bag. It has been as long as my old driver but I'm playing in winter conditions.



    As others mention though it is a shaft that you hold and I like holding the Alta 55 stiff. No idea who makes it but it works great for me.
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    Ping G410+ tensi orange s
    Cobra F8+ 3-4 15°  Aldila NV 2KXV 75 Green w/Cobra smart grip
    Adams 9031 18° Mitsubishi diamana
    Adams 9031 23° Mitsubishi diamana 
    Ping Ie1 5-U DG S300
    Mizuno T7 54° 12°b
    Ping glide 2 58°. ES
    Futura 5.5
  • bopper53bopper53 Members  593WRX Points: 97Posts: 593 Golden Tee
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    Ping G hands down. Great distance and the most forgiving.



    What has the Epic done for Phil's accuracy or for that matter any Cally Staffer ?



    I would never vote for a TM product since in six months they will bring out another "Me Too" driver and DE-Value the one you just bought.
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    Ping G 410, 10.5, Tensi Blue
    Ping G410, 3 Wood  Tensi Orange
    Ping G410, 5 wood, Tensi Orange 
    Ping G410 Hybrid 20
    Ping G410, 6-GW, Awt 2.0
    Ping Tyne , flow neck
    Ping 3.0  Wedges, 56 / 58 DG AWT Wedge shafts
  • Mtngolfer1Mtngolfer1 Lefty Boomers  1723WRX Points: 149Handicap: 12Posts: 1,723 Platinum Tees
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    . I am not sure that I would consider this a 2017 Driver, but my vote went to the Ping G LS tec. The fact that my G is still holding its own against the latest 2017 releases has me very excited to see what Ping will release later this year. I was excited to demo the Callaway Epic, it not only looks very appealing, but it does perform very well. It is the first driver since the G30 from a manufacture other than Ping that I felt offered a full combination of distance and forgiveness. The reason I ranked my Ping G over the Callaway epic was the epic was equal but not better, so the tie goes to the reigning champ.
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  • platgofplatgof platgof ClubWRX  1996WRX Points: 278Handicap: 17Posts: 1,996 ClubWRX
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    The M1/M2 drivers have really raised the mark for everyone else to follow. My friend seen how well I hit the 16 M2 and he picked up a 17 M1. That club is something else. He was already hard to beat....
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    Ping GMax 10.5
    Cobra F9 5 & 7 Wd
    Callaway OS 5 ,6 Hybrid
    Cobra F9 6-Pw Irons
    Ping Glide 50,54 Wedges
    SM7 58* D
    TM Pro Spyder Mid Putter
    ERC
    Garmin S20

  • johnnythundersjohnnythunders ClubWRX  1758WRX Points: 164Posts: 1,758 Platinum Tees
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    The order from pre-season testing us mizuno jpx 900 then Epic then ping g from last year.



    Jpx goes straight, best real deal shaft and is long and very adjustable.
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    2020 Big Bertha Fusion with FuJi 661 stiff evo 3, Mizuno ST200 with Fuji 661 Evo 3 stiffMavrik 5/7 Helium 5 regular, Big Bertha 6 and 7 hybrid recoil esx 460 regular, Cobra T-rail 7-gw, with Mitsubishi OTi75 regular, Mizuno s18 56 aeroteck 125 regular, Toulon Austin, Ball  undecided.
  • ZipinZZipinZ Sylvan Lake, Alberta & Palm Springs Ca.Members  1043WRX Points: 225Handicap: 11Posts: 1,043 Platinum Tees
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    Ping LST .... #1.
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    Ping G400 Driver - Tensei Pro Orange 60 or Tour Ad Di6 Stiff
    Ping G400 14.5* 3 Wood - Tour Ad Di8-S
    Ping G410 4/22* HYB -Tensei Pro Orange 80S Hybrid
    Ping G410 3/19* HYB -Tour AD Di-85S Hybrid
    Titleist 718 AP2 5-9i - Steelfiber i95S
    Titleist SM6 Steelfiber i110S - 46-50-56-60
    Scotty Cameron Studio Select Laguna
    Ping DLX Cart Bag -  V1 Sport Push Cart
    Garmin Approach G80


  • nitramnitram WestOK, on the South Canadian Riviera Members  5668WRX Points: 380Handicap: -.6Posts: 5,668 Titanium Tees
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    I have hit three 2017 drivers on indoor launchmonitors: the Epic, the new M1 and the new M2...none of them are better than the best ones produced between 2015 and 2016.




    Helluva first post Jon and welcome to WRX
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    Epic Flash SZ 3D 10.5* Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60
    Exotics CBX 119 13.5* & 18* Accra TourZ 382
    Exotics CBX 22* Accra TZ5-95H
    PING S55 5-9 Mitsubishi MMT-125TX
    Callaway MD5 JAWS 46S, 50S, 54W, 58C  Mitsubishi MMT-125 TX (9-iron)
    Cameron 009 Prototype (A010656)
  • RCorsaRCorsa Members  84WRX Points: 0Posts: 84
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    MWB wrote:


    I voted for the Epic Sub Zero - Titleist 917 D3 - Taylormade M1. Long time Titleist user and always loved the D3 head. It would be nice to compare all drivers to the same 45" spec & same shaft to see how each perform. It seemed that the TM & SZ were too long for me to hit consistantly
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  • RCorsaRCorsa Members  84WRX Points: 0Posts: 84
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    I have both. Cut the epic down to 45 and using the tensai pro blue in both. The 917 is typically 10 yards shorter but sounds and feels better. I haven talked decided which I willl game this year as 10 yards is easily made up with my iron game.
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  • mbbrewermbbrewer Members  1062WRX Points: 166Posts: 1,062 Platinum Tees
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    Tried them all and for me EPIC was the one. Fastest ball speed lowest spin and tightest dispersion.
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  • EreimEreim In Hoc Signo Vinces Members  560WRX Points: 101Handicap: 9.1Posts: 560 Golden Tee
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    I haven't found a driver to oust my 913 d2 until this year.



    It boiled down to the Epic and the M1.



    Both gave me better numbers than my 913.



    Epic:

    Felt great, looked great, numbers were basically 99.9% optimized for my swing.



    M1:

    Much of the same from above. Optimal spin, launch, smash factor...







    I ended up going with the M1. It gave me a slightly tighter dispersion, and I liked looking down at it slightly more.



    That being said, I gave 1 vote to each for this poll.
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    Taylormade M1 9.5 Project X T1100 6.0<br /><br /> Callaway Rogue 15° Project X EvenFlow Blue 75 <br /><br /> Callaway Rogue 19°, 24° Project X EvenFlow Blue 85 <br /><br /> Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli-Hi 5-6 & MMC 7-9 True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT X100 <br /><br /> SM7 Vokey 46.10F, 50.12F, 54.14F, 58.12D Tour White AMT S400 & Bettinardi Inovai 3.0
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  • Tigermatt31Tigermatt31 Members  103WRX Points: 15Handicap: +1Posts: 103 Fairways
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    M1 440 best driver I've had ever.
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    TM 2017 Tour Issue M1 440 - Tour AD-DI 7X
    Titleist 915 F - Tour AD-DI 7X
    Adams Pro Mini 18* - Aldila Green Tour X
    Tileist 716 T-MB 3-P - Project X 6.5
    Vokey SM6 53*, 58* - Project X 6.0
    Futura X5 35"
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