New Cameron putters(including Matsuyama's) - 2019 PGA Championship

[TinkerGolfMan]

That Scotty is fuego!

[nickc445]

I like where this appears to be headed --- pivoting to a cleaner, more classic look.

[mizunoMX25]

> @noodle3872 said:

> > @mizunoMX25 said:

> > Will never see a clean soled full milled putter like this on the rack. Too much money to be had selling tour only versions which Cameron keeps the profits from. May get the shape, but likely with the aluminum insert to cut cost.

>

> Yet the Phantom X line that are on Tour are the same as retail without the Tour engraving. Even the current retail Select line is identical as Tour except the Tour gets GSS and aluminium face insert options on top of Tour engraving. For $2K less, keep your CT engraving on the head and sole weights!

>

 

I wasnt talking about "Tour" OTR's. Those have never made sense to me. What I was referring to was more like the 009/Cameron&Co/Timeless market.

[GeorgeHWB]

> @nsxguy said:

> > @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > @AG12 said:

> > > > it would be nice if this style could come to retail.....sigh

> > >

> > > Come to retail ?

> > >

> > > They've been out in many forms for many years. Newport and Newport 2.

> > Not the same.

> >

>

> Literally not the same maybe, but still the "same".

 

I would not expect someone who uses a Taylormade Spider to appreciate the differences between the various Newport 2 and Newport iterations.

[joedalton5]

> @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > @nsxguy said:

> > > @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > > @AG12 said:

> > > > > it would be nice if this style could come to retail.....sigh

> > > >

> > > > Come to retail ?

> > > >

> > > > They've been out in many forms for many years. Newport and Newport 2.

> > > Not the same.

> > >

> >

> > Literally not the same maybe, but still the "same".

>

> I would not expect someone who uses a Taylormade Spider to appreciate the differences between the various Newport 2 and Newport iterations.

 

??

 

Best comment ever!!

 

 

[nsxguy]

> @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > @nsxguy said:

> > > @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > > @AG12 said:

> > > > > it would be nice if this style could come to retail.....sigh

> > > >

> > > > Come to retail ?

> > > >

> > > > They've been out in many forms for many years. Newport and Newport 2.

> > > Not the same.

> > >

> >

> > Literally not the same maybe, but still the "same".

>

> I would not expect someone who uses a Taylormade Spider to appreciate the differences between the various Newport 2 and Newport iterations.

 

Yeah, I'm sure Dustin, Jason and Rory can't appreciate the differences either. LOL

 

See it all the time. When ya got no argument you fall back on snark.

 

Good one !!!

[kiwii]

Holy cleanness. Really hoping the 2020 select line will resemble these.

Any one else think these are more original Ping anser 2 like? Thin top line, more rounded bumper shape and even the neck shape.

 

[GeorgeHWB]

> @nsxguy said:

> > @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > > > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > > > @AG12 said:

> > > > > > it would be nice if this style could come to retail.....sigh

> > > > >

> > > > > Come to retail ?

> > > > >

> > > > > They've been out in many forms for many years. Newport and Newport 2.

> > > > Not the same.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Literally not the same maybe, but still the "same".

> >

> > I would not expect someone who uses a Taylormade Spider to appreciate the differences between the various Newport 2 and Newport iterations.

>

> Yeah, I'm sure Dustin, Jason and Rory can't appreciate the differences either. LOL

>

> See it all the time. When ya got no argument you fall back on snark.

>

> Good one !!!

 

It was an honest observation dude. You clearly don't appreciate the differences. I do--as do many others as evidenced in this thread. There's only one Scotty Cameron NP2 head style that fits my eye. I posted a photo earlier in this thread. All others have something about them that are different and, in my opinion, worse. Flange width, face height, offset, bumper slope, topline thickness, face milling, feel off the face, material, color--you name it. But they all look pretty much the same to you. Nothing wrong with that.

 

I'm not a wine guy. I could drink a $10 bottle of Cabernet or a $100 bottle and could not tell you why, or if, one was better than the other. Nothing wrong with that either. The nuances of Scotty Cameron NP2's and Newports (and 009's) is like the nuances of Scotch, wine, cigars, cars and the like. Some get it, some don't. And that's OK.

[Rig14Port]

> @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > @nsxguy said:

> > > @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > > @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > > > > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > > > > @AG12 said:

> > > > > > > it would be nice if this style could come to retail.....sigh

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Come to retail ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They've been out in many forms for many years. Newport and Newport 2.

> > > > > Not the same.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Literally not the same maybe, but still the "same".

> > >

> > > I would not expect someone who uses a Taylormade Spider to appreciate the differences between the various Newport 2 and Newport iterations.

> >

> > Yeah, I'm sure Dustin, Jason and Rory can't appreciate the differences either. LOL

> >

> > See it all the time. When ya got no argument you fall back on snark.

> >

> > Good one !!!

>

> It was an honest observation dude. You clearly don't appreciate the differences. I do--as do many others as evidenced in this thread. There's only one Scotty Cameron NP2 head style that fits my eye. I posted a photo earlier in this thread. All others have something about them that are different and, in my opinion, worse. Flange width, face height, offset, bumper slope, topline thickness, face milling, feel off the face, material, color--you name it. But they all look pretty much the same to you. Nothing wrong with that.

>

> I'm not a wine guy. I could drink a $10 bottle of Cabernet or a $100 bottle and could not tell you why, or if, one was better than the other. Nothing wrong with that either. The nuances of Scotty Cameron NP2's and Newports (and 009's) is like the nuances of Scotch, wine, cigars, cars and the like. Some get it, some don't. And that's OK.

 

you're wasting your breath with this guy... anyone that would argue these putters are comparable to what Cameron has been producing for the last 10 years obviously has no idea what they're talking about.

[mBiden2]

> @cota0429 said:

> I don’t understand why other manufacturers just don’t copy this and make a retail version. So many ugly retail putters out there in the stores these days. Love the simplicity of these

 

I couldn’t agree more!

[nsxguy]

> @Rig14Port said:

> > @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > > > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > > > @"Mr. Hogan" said:

> > > > > > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > > > > > @AG12 said:

> > > > > > > > it would be nice if this style could come to retail.....sigh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Come to retail ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > They've been out in many forms for many years. Newport and Newport 2.

> > > > > > Not the same.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Literally not the same maybe, but still the "same".

> > > >

> > > > I would not expect someone who uses a Taylormade Spider to appreciate the differences between the various Newport 2 and Newport iterations.

> > >

> > > Yeah, I'm sure Dustin, Jason and Rory can't appreciate the differences either. LOL

> > >

> > > See it all the time. When ya got no argument you fall back on snark.

> > >

> > > Good one !!!

> >

> > It was an honest observation dude. You clearly don't appreciate the differences. I do--as do many others as evidenced in this thread. There's only one Scotty Cameron NP2 head style that fits my eye. I posted a photo earlier in this thread. All others have something about them that are different and, in my opinion, worse. Flange width, face height, offset, bumper slope, topline thickness, face milling, feel off the face, material, color--you name it. But they all look pretty much the same to you. Nothing wrong with that.

> >

> > I'm not a wine guy. I could drink a $10 bottle of Cabernet or a $100 bottle and could not tell you why, or if, one was better than the other. Nothing wrong with that either. The nuances of Scotty Cameron NP2's and Newports (and 009's) is like the nuances of Scotch, wine, cigars, cars and the like. Some get it, some don't. And that's OK.

>

> you're wasting your breath with this guy... anyone that would argue these putters are comparable to what Cameron has been producing for the last 10 years obviously has no idea what they're talking about.

 

If you don't see the typical snark in Mr Hogan's reply I don't know what to tell you.

 

If you don't see the obvious similarities in the models I don't know what to tell you.

 

"Subtle" differences ? I'm sure there are. Enjoy. Vive la différence.

 

 

[Thats two thus far Shooter]

My god, I just went from 6 to 12. If these happen to make it to retail, I would buy one of each, and soil myself each time in the checkout line.

[Scotty1140]

If this is what the next Select line looks like take my money now

[Divdevil]

Now we are talking. Those look great!

[bladehunter]

Guys. Don’t fall for Lucy holding the football again. No chance anything remotely close to those hits retail. The otr putters and tour versions haven’t been close since around 2004ish. Gradually farther gap since then.

[Ivyguy]

Scotty or someone in his camp, read this thread.

 

If I want an insert I'll go to odyssey or ping (smh).

 

I want you to be "players classic". Meaning: when I'm done looking for a micro second truer roll or straighter impact... I look for a scotty.

 

I just want a Milled clean look at address without determining what 3M tape u used on your sticky notes to attach it.

 

Well balanced and clean, with no inserts. I guess Cleveland is the only one that can do it... huge milling in the faces which robs from feel.

 

Stop creating putters that give the average guy no feel....

 

We always complain about the weekend hack with nothing other than massive junk putters. Give us something close to the real deal. Put your 500 dollar price tag on it and it will move.

[TurboFade]

I really hope these are the next line of Cameron Selects, these look amazing and just might get me to sideline my Studio Stainless Newport 2.

[TurboFade]

> @cota0429 said:

> I don’t understand why other manufacturers just don’t copy this and make a retail version. So many ugly retail putters out there in the stores these days. Love the simplicity of these

 

I totally agree.

[MillerLowLife]

I just realized these all have some pretty heavy weights in them that would probably push them over 350g. I doubt they are under 34' which usually have 20g weights? I don't quite remember. Is it purely a feel thing or would a little extra weight help with control/touch here?

[Carson33]

Does anyone have any further insight on these? Are these going to be the new Tour milling like the “Masterful”?

 

On a side note, it looks like Kaymer is gaming one this week at the Memorial.

[nickilii]

yeah saw a few close ups. looked good

[scratchswinger]

Too bad he doesn’t make a solid milled line with some nice mallets likes the Toulon Memphis and Las Vegas.

[drbonesvt]

Everyone needs to bang this thread to get don’s attention

[FOOTJOY16]

I'll take the Newport, no sight line, in black please...

[Medson]

Man, I'm late to the bandwagon.

 

It has been hard to spend money on Scotty OTR in the last several years. My last OTR purchase was the 2012 Select line ... If this shape comes without inserts and excessive dots (9 dots, anyone?), I'm seriously debating to purchase one. Scotty even will have a nice story "simple minimalist design ...". On the other hand, I'm sure many of you have seen what Toulon has come up with Santa Monica (basically, Anser 2 shape). If the revised Santa Monica will come to retail, it'll seriously give this NP2 run for the money.

 

2020 is going to be an interesting (and expensive) year.

[Rig14Port]

Looks like Tiger has one of these (a version of) protos in his bag during the practice rounds this week for The Open. If the plan is to release these to retail end of year Tiger swapping out his old trusty NP2 would certainly be a boost to sales!!! No way Don misses that kind of opportunity right?

[mjbaker80]

> @Rig14Port said:

> Looks like Tiger has one of these (a version of) protos in his bag during the practice rounds this week for The Open. If the plan is to release these to retail end of year Tiger swapping out his old trusty NP2 would certainly be a boost to sales!!! No way Don misses that kind of opportunity right?

 

BINGO! Just posted this in another thread, Rig!

[barksdal87]

Deer lowered if they could offer the NP2 without the flange line so we could play it clean or with a topline or dot, i would love to try this...

They should offer the NP and NP2 with or without the flange line so people can do as they please

[rightslice]

The Anser's err Newport has been done to death. Maybe, just maybe Scotty has decided to go simplistict? Has'nt really been done yet. I used to buy everytinhg he put out till around 2004. I'd buy one of these. He's either on to something or laughing at us. Who knows.

[Medson]

Could this be the new 2020 Select line? I have not followed putter release for a while, so I'm a little bit rusty on which year Scotty releases what. My vague memory says he releases updated Select Newport/Newport 2 during the even years.