Tiger's clubs for Safeway (Photo added page 19)

[Shilgy]

The way things are shaping up, he better be getting some Big Berthas and a Spin Dr wedge. Hell, might as well sign to play the Hammer X. Pains me to think this way, but dude is 100% done. He has been done mentally since he got busted, literally and figuratively. Tiger is officially a head case.

 

I think Tiger should bring back his clubs from his 1997 Masters win... Cobra driver, Cleveland Wedges, and Mizuno Irons. Man were those good looking irons, haha

 

 

He's been done since 2009 then? Well in 2012 and 2013 he was 2nd and 1st on the money list with a combined 8 wins. The 2 yrs before that he had swing changes and in 2014 his injuries started. I wouldn't say he's 100% done. Assuming the reports are true that this isn't health related, then it's the smart move. The guy gets critiqued like no one else in the world. If he doesn't believe the intricacies of his game aren't up to par yet then he's smart to wait. There's gonna be enough pressure on him when he returns...needs to make sure it's right.

 

So after the last debacle, he was 245 in the world golf rankings. 8 wins followed by a few years of not good golf doesn't equal stellar success. You don't drop to 245 overnight with 8 wins. He is a shell of what he was and unfortunately will never be close to that player again. For most pro golfers, that stretch would be a successful career, but we expect more from Eldrick. If he had been terrible then worked his way up to greatness, the masses would be less relentless, but when you start amazing and continue that for years, then you mentally fall off the wagon, it is much easier for everyone to pile on. He expects more of himself than 245 in the world and I'm sure he will be better, may even crack the top 50, but I would stake anything I own on a world number 1 not happening again, Put a house up a few years ago in a Duval comeback thread but no one took me up on it!

The beginning of 2014 he was #1 in the world. Not number 245. You do drop quite quickly when events are dropping off and you do not play at all so no points added. There is still the minimum divisor of 40.

[Bdmac79]

"Tiger has been hitting an M1"..."Tiger is going to buy TM"..."My friend's counsin's daughter's therapist's dog-walker's mom saw Tiger hitting a Bridgestone ball"...

[bladehunter]

"Tiger has been hitting an M1"..."Tiger is going to buy TM"..."My friend's counsin's daughter's therapist's dog-walker's mom saw Tiger hitting a Bridgestone ball"...

 

 

right up there with some "self appointed" soothsayer on twitter calling the witb early and stating FACT.... what a load of shat

[justwellsy]

Would still be interested to know what's under the headcovers.... I bet they are not Nike clubs or at least not all of them

[cardoza]

"Tiger has been hitting an M1"..."Tiger is going to buy TM"..."My friend's counsin's daughter's therapist's dog-walker's mom saw Tiger hitting a Bridgestone ball"...

 

 

right up there with some "self appointed" soothsayer on twitter calling the witb early and stating FACT.... what a load of shat

 

Agreed... Like I said previously in this thread, I enjoy following the NLU twitter, but I think they need to stay in their lane and keep producing entertaining golf takes as opposed to trying to speculate based on whatever sources they may possess.

[cardia10]

The way things are shaping up, he better be getting some Big Berthas and a Spin Dr wedge. Hell, might as well sign to play the Hammer X. Pains me to think this way, but dude is 100% done. He has been done mentally since he got busted, literally and figuratively. Tiger is officially a head case.

 

I think Tiger should bring back his clubs from his 1997 Masters win... Cobra driver, Cleveland Wedges, and Mizuno Irons. Man were those good looking irons, haha

 

 

He's been done since 2009 then? Well in 2012 and 2013 he was 2nd and 1st on the money list with a combined 8 wins. The 2 yrs before that he had swing changes and in 2014 his injuries started. I wouldn't say he's 100% done. Assuming the reports are true that this isn't health related, then it's the smart move. The guy gets critiqued like no one else in the world. If he doesn't believe the intricacies of his game aren't up to par yet then he's smart to wait. There's gonna be enough pressure on him when he returns...needs to make sure it's right.

 

So after the last debacle, he was 245 in the world golf rankings. 8 wins followed by a few years of not good golf doesn't equal stellar success. You don't drop to 245 overnight with 8 wins. He is a shell of what he was and unfortunately will never be close to that player again. For most pro golfers, that stretch would be a successful career, but we expect more from Eldrick. If he had been terrible then worked his way up to greatness, the masses would be less relentless, but when you start amazing and continue that for years, then you mentally fall off the wagon, it is much easier for everyone to pile on. He expects more of himself than 245 in the world and I'm sure he will be better, may even crack the top 50, but I would stake anything I own on a world number 1 not happening again, Put a house up a few years ago in a Duval comeback thread but no one took me up on it!

The beginning of 2014 he was #1 in the world. Not number 245. You do drop quite quickly when events are dropping off and you do not play at all so no points added. There is still the minimum divisor of 40.

 

Here is the link to all the stats http://www.pgatour.com/players/player.08793.tiger-woods.html/statistics

In 2013, his last year ranked #1 he couldn't get off the tee and his proximity from the rough was terrible on top of that. If you now add chipping woes, other than putting, which is also questionable, what will he succeed with in the future? Obviously his proximity from the fairway WAS solid when he hit fairways, but his ranking was 127 there. I'm more of a stats guy obviously. If I always went for the sob story or my heart, I'd still think Daly could win another British. Tiger's game doesn't stack up post Thanksgiving other than 1 statistically special year. A back surgery seems to be substantially more difficult to recover from than a 9 iron to the front teeth, so I'm still saying top 50 will be his ceiling. I hope I'm wrong as it makes it more fun at Augusta when he is playing, but less fun when buying tickets.

[Shilgy]

 

Here is the link to all the stats http://www.pgatour.c...html/statistics

In 2013, his last year ranked #1 he couldn't get off the tee and his proximity from the rough was terrible on top of that. If you now add chipping woes, other than putting, which is also questionable, what will he succeed with in the future? Obviously his proximity from the fairway WAS solid when he hit fairways, but his ranking was 127 there. I'm more of a stats guy obviously. If I always went for the sob story or my heart, I'd still think Daly could win another British. Tiger's game doesn't stack up post Thanksgiving other than 1 statistically special year. A back surgery seems to be substantially more difficult to recover from than a 9 iron to the front teeth, so I'm still saying top 50 will be his ceiling. I hope I'm wrong as it makes it more fun at Augusta when he is playing, but less fun when buying tickets.

Ok stats. In 2013, the year you referenced, he was 2nd in SG tee to green and 2nd in SG total. The bold will of course depend totally on health.

[twfan23]

Here is the link to all the stats http://www.pgatour.c...html/statistics

In 2013, his last year ranked #1 he couldn't get off the tee and his proximity from the rough was terrible on top of that. If you now add chipping woes, other than putting, which is also questionable, what will he succeed with in the future? Obviously his proximity from the fairway WAS solid when he hit fairways, but his ranking was 127 there. I'm more of a stats guy obviously. If I always went for the sob story or my heart, I'd still think Daly could win another British. Tiger's game doesn't stack up post Thanksgiving other than 1 statistically special year. A back surgery seems to be substantially more difficult to recover from than a 9 iron to the front teeth, so I'm still saying top 50 will be his ceiling. I hope I'm wrong as it makes it more fun at Augusta when he is playing, but less fun when buying tickets.

Ok stats. In 2013, the year you referenced, he was 2nd in SG tee to green and 2nd in SG total. The bold will of course depend totally on health.

 

 

You're a stats guy....well in 2013, he was 17th in total driving (pretty good) and 69th in accuracy which isn't great but certainly isn't "couldn't get off the tee." My college coach had two sayings: 1 - There's no pictures on a scorecard. 2 - Doesn't matter how it looked, it's about results. Meaning you could hit it off the map all day and if you shoot 68 or win a tournament, who cares if you didn't hit 12 fairways and 15 greens per round.

 

All the stats they keep track of are nice and fun to see where your favorite player sits, but in the end, don't usually tell the whole story.

 

Here's the stats that count:

Approach to green - #1

Fed Ex cup pts - #1

Money leader - #1

Tee to green - #2

Scoring avg - #2

Birdie avg - #3

Total putting - #9

Best iron player from 150 - >200 (up to 275)

[cota0429]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let the haters hate...

[scratchswinger]

Best line of irons and wedges that Nike made..... Glad he put those back into the bag.

[cvhookem63]

I spy a Vapor Fly Pro 2 iron...

[Bdmac79]

No visible boxes of Kick-X's, though. Damn.

[cardia10]

Here is the link to all the stats http://www.pgatour.c...html/statistics

In 2013, his last year ranked #1 he couldn't get off the tee and his proximity from the rough was terrible on top of that. If you now add chipping woes, other than putting, which is also questionable, what will he succeed with in the future? Obviously his proximity from the fairway WAS solid when he hit fairways, but his ranking was 127 there. I'm more of a stats guy obviously. If I always went for the sob story or my heart, I'd still think Daly could win another British. Tiger's game doesn't stack up post Thanksgiving other than 1 statistically special year. A back surgery seems to be substantially more difficult to recover from than a 9 iron to the front teeth, so I'm still saying top 50 will be his ceiling. I hope I'm wrong as it makes it more fun at Augusta when he is playing, but less fun when buying tickets.

Ok stats. In 2013, the year you referenced, he was 2nd in SG tee to green and 2nd in SG total. The bold will of course depend totally on health.

 

 

You're a stats guy....well in 2013, he was 17th in total driving (pretty good) and 69th in accuracy which isn't great but certainly isn't "couldn't get off the tee." My college coach had two sayings: 1 - There's no pictures on a scorecard. 2 - Doesn't matter how it looked, it's about results. Meaning you could hit it off the map all day and if you shoot 68 or win a tournament, who cares if you didn't hit 12 fairways and 15 greens per round.

 

All the stats they keep track of are nice and fun to see where your favorite player sits, but in the end, don't usually tell the whole story.

 

Here's the stats that count:

Approach to green - #1

Fed Ex cup pts - #1

Money leader - #1

Tee to green - #2

Scoring avg - #2

Birdie avg - #3

Total putting - #9

Best iron player from 150 - >200 (up to 275)

 

I never said he didn't have a good year, actually I said that was his best year since the Turkey incident. Here is his driving ranking. SG: OFF-THE-TEE -.142 127

 

 

Pretty clear, off the tee, he was 127, just like I said.

 

He also hit it miles off line. DISTANCE FROM EDGE OF FAIRWAY 30' 2"

155

 

155 on tour there.

 

He also hit it terrible out of the rough once he was there

ROUGH PROXIMITY 47' 6"

166

 

 

I also have never seen a picture on a scorecard, but your stats are typically a good indication of what is going wrong with your game. Obviously he scored, so his short game was solid....nope APPROACHES FROM INSIDE 100 YARDS (RGH) 32' 7" 174

 

 

I'll give up with the stats, but he was #1 from the fringe. I can post as many terrible stats as anyone can post good, but he had a good year in 2013. My concern is going forward, now that nothing has been proven to be corrected and we know of his chipping woes, where does the potential success come from in the future. With a bad back, he won't be able to grind like he used to so like I have said all along, top 50 will be the best I see him doing.

[alittleoverpar]

Seriously Tiger just get a chipper already

 

I hear from unconfirmed sources that Scotty Cameron is coming out with a TW chipper!

[cardia10]

Just saw the replays again of those last few chips he hit on tour, he better get the spin dr to spin that mess back in the direction of the hole

[eddie_max]

Putter?

[J13]

I think he's enjoying the M1/M2 a lot or so I hear ;)

[Marco]

Putter?

 

SCOTTY WILL BE BACK

 

[Shilgy]

Here is the link to all the stats http://www.pgatour.c...html/statistics

In 2013, his last year ranked #1 he couldn't get off the tee and his proximity from the rough was terrible on top of that. If you now add chipping woes, other than putting, which is also questionable, what will he succeed with in the future? Obviously his proximity from the fairway WAS solid when he hit fairways, but his ranking was 127 there. I'm more of a stats guy obviously. If I always went for the sob story or my heart, I'd still think Daly could win another British. Tiger's game doesn't stack up post Thanksgiving other than 1 statistically special year. A back surgery seems to be substantially more difficult to recover from than a 9 iron to the front teeth, so I'm still saying top 50 will be his ceiling. I hope I'm wrong as it makes it more fun at Augusta when he is playing, but less fun when buying tickets.

Ok stats. In 2013, the year you referenced, he was 2nd in SG tee to green and 2nd in SG total. The bold will of course depend totally on health.

 

 

You're a stats guy....well in 2013, he was 17th in total driving (pretty good) and 69th in accuracy which isn't great but certainly isn't "couldn't get off the tee." My college coach had two sayings: 1 - There's no pictures on a scorecard. 2 - Doesn't matter how it looked, it's about results. Meaning you could hit it off the map all day and if you shoot 68 or win a tournament, who cares if you didn't hit 12 fairways and 15 greens per round.

 

All the stats they keep track of are nice and fun to see where your favorite player sits, but in the end, don't usually tell the whole story.

 

Here's the stats that count:

Approach to green - #1

Fed Ex cup pts - #1

Money leader - #1

Tee to green - #2

Scoring avg - #2

Birdie avg - #3

Total putting - #9

Best iron player from 150 - >200 (up to 275)

 

I never said he didn't have a good year, actually I said that was his best year since the Turkey incident. Here is his driving ranking. SG: OFF-THE-TEE -.142 127

 

 

Pretty clear, off the tee, he was 127, just like I said.

 

He also hit it miles off line. DISTANCE FROM EDGE OF FAIRWAY 30' 2"

155

 

155 on tour there.

 

He also hit it terrible out of the rough once he was there

ROUGH PROXIMITY 47' 6"

166

 

 

I also have never seen a picture on a scorecard, but your stats are typically a good indication of what is going wrong with your game. Obviously he scored, so his short game was solid....nope APPROACHES FROM INSIDE 100 YARDS (RGH) 32' 7" 174

 

 

I'll give up with the stats, but he was #1 from the fringe. I can post as many terrible stats as anyone can post good, but he had a good year in 2013. My concern is going forward, now that nothing has been proven to be corrected and we know of his chipping woes, where does the potential success come from in the future. With a bad back, he won't be able to grind like he used to so like I have said all along, top 50 will be the best I see him doing.

luckily he was "only" in the rough 25% of the time. Bottom line he was not driving it well on average. When he was he won, when he was so so he was very god and in contention, and when he was not he was outside the top 25. He did not miss a cut so it never killed him.

[BlackM00Nlight]

Awful lot of swooshes in that bag.. man

 

Come on haters, let's hear it

[getitclose]

His Nike drivers were there so he could compare to what's under the Tiger headcover. THat was his primary and backup glued Nike drivers. I know the Nike guys want to believe that he will stay with their gear but he's not going to. Everyone is ignoring the obvious and that's the other driver under the headcover which is his new gamer.

I think you might be ignoring the obvious For him to have a "gamer" he'd have to be someone who plays golf. He's not. He's retired his ego just won't let him admit it.

He's got more left in him I'd say about 5-10 years worth.

 

What has happened in the last 2 years that makes you think that? Last shot I saw him hit he couldn't clear a 100 yard water hazard. How would broken and defeated compete with a field full of people who aren't? Because he's Tiger Woods? That guy died on Thanksgiving.

 

Tiger may or may not make a comeback, but I pray he does so every TW lover can put you on blast. Why hope someone does bad? Don't get people like this..

[GolfSINC]

Please merge in case i missed a thread. didn't see it.

 

Taylor Made Driver

Mizuno Irons

Scotty Putter

Bridgestone ball

 

source @nolayingup on Twitter.

 

Interesting.

 

It's 100% true this setup. Watch.

 

Good try you two.

 

:rofl: :cheesy:

[mgholda]

Those Miuras in his bag look sweeeeet!

[Holy Moses]

Great work on Katrek and Maginness Zak!

[HennyBogan67]

Unfortunately we may have to wait until January to find out as Tiger's back is so bad, he can't hit an 8 iron 145 yards. I can't imagine him playing a split bag as the big boys will write giant checks to have him on board. The Taylormade MB is nothing more than a MP 33/29 ripoff that feels like a cast club next to a Mizuno blade. He can go back and forth between the M1/M2 and play whatever ball he wants. In a perfect world the guy would play a Titleist driver, MP 5's, Vokeys and his old Scotty Newport but that ain't gonna happen. Even guys with a net worth over $600 mil like to get paid. Maybe Titleist will empty the bank account and get him back.

[cray159]

Why is he so married to the bonded driver?

[mgholda]

Why is he so married to the bonded driver?

He's been more faithful to a bonded driver than most of his other relationships.

[IcemanYVR]

Tiger said today at the clinic that he'd be using he putter that he won 13 majors with. I'm assuming that was his Scotty Cameron Newport GSS?

[Holy Moses]

Unfortunately we may have to wait until January to find out as Tiger's back is so bad, he can't hit an 8 iron 145 yards. I can't imagine him playing a split bag as the big boys will write giant checks to have him on board. The Taylormade MB is nothing more than a MP 33/29 ripoff that feels like a cast club next to a Mizuno blade. He can go back and forth between the M1/M2 and play whatever ball he wants. In a perfect world the guy would play a Titleist driver, MP 5's, Vokeys and his old Scotty Newport but that ain't gonna happen. Even guys with a net worth over $600 mil like to get paid. Maybe Titleist will empty the bank account and get him back.

 

Won't happen. No one is emptying the bank for a guy who may or may not play much at all again. Nike folded partly because Tiger has been virtually non-existent the last few years. He's not worth the risk. Someone will sign him, but I think Rory or Day will earn more for their club deals.

[MCoz]

Unfortunately we may have to wait until January to find out as Tiger's back is so bad, he can't hit an 8 iron 145 yards. I can't imagine him playing a split bag as the big boys will write giant checks to have him on board. The Taylormade MB is nothing more than a MP 33/29 ripoff that feels like a cast club next to a Mizuno blade. He can go back and forth between the M1/M2 and play whatever ball he wants. In a perfect world the guy would play a Titleist driver, MP 5's, Vokeys and his old Scotty Newport but that ain't gonna happen. Even guys with a net worth over $600 mil like to get paid. Maybe Titleist will empty the bank account and get him back.

 

Won't happen. No one is emptying the bank for a guy who may or may not play much at all again. Nike folded partly because Tiger has been virtually non-existent the last few years. He's not worth the risk. Someone will sign him, but I think Rory or Day will earn more for their club deals.

It is true that is isn't likely to sign a big club deal. TM has spent their money already for their big names and a house full of fringe players. But they have been making some woods to test. He may have some other trials from others, but I don't know who. Probably the one company that might be willing to spent a little more than others, could be Parsons. He has a huge ego and he really isn't making any money on his club biz yet, so he may want a "trophy" although he likely couldn't get close to all of the bag if any. At this point I would expect a mixed bag with some small money for tee up money kind of a deal. Should be interesting, but everyone here in Napa is sad that he isn't here. He was supposedly playing very early Sat morning before he went to the Stanford game that evening. It is likely that something here told him his game wasn't going to make it. Steph Curry was disappointed also because he was to be TW's Pro-Am partner Wednesday.