Stricter Dress Code Coming For LPGA

[bobcat]

Being a straight female, I guess I notice shoes before, ahem, anything else. ;)

 

What about these (spiked) shoes?..Did you notice those first too?... :taunt:

 

 

[Argonne69]

Digging up an old thread. I was looking the LPGA's website today, and I found it amusing/ironic that they had a third party ad on the site with a photo showing a player wearing what would be considered an illegal outfit, a racer top with a bare midriff. It's obvious why the company is going out of business. They appear to have lost any business that was coming from the players.

 

[bladehunter]

America baffles me. It really does. One minute being all puritanical and the next threatening to wipe an entire nation off the map. Who has decided on these new rules? Some 80 year old gin drinkers in a grandmothers union? Viewing figures will drop off. And I imagine the sponsors won't be too keen on Lexi and Co in beige chinos and baggy sweaters in mid summer.

 

Well some of us care about the golf. Anything that detracts from that when watching the men or women play (this includes skin tight shirts with funny collars, high top shoes, yoga pants, shorty shorts, lingerie, etc...) is inappropriate. If you want skin surf up some porn and have your fun. My apparently minority opinion.

 

I hesitate to comment as my wife usually tells me to stick to the male gender topics as I know nothing about women. ( she isn’t wrong but it isn’t for lack of trying lol).

 

But since I see a much respected Lady post in agreement with my 38 year old views I thought I might.

 

All one needs to do to see why this is an issue and why they needed to set up some guidelines is read the fashion section thread just right here. Gets pretty creepy in there pretty often. A lot like going to a Korean veterans reunion and listening to the talk about the off duty entertainment.

 

I don’t have a daughter. But if I did I would struggle mightily with this. I agree and understand the idea that women should choose and decide on Their own dress and bodies. But. What I have issue with is when they cannot cope with the consequences of these choices. In other words. You dress a certain way. Don’t be shocked when you are thought of as meat. It’s human nature. No matter how hard we try. You will not get around this.

 

Think of the legality. How long before some lpga player sues the tour for not protecting her from some stalker fan or some upskirt photographer ? The tour has to set some guidelines to protect itself. They are deciding to make the work place “ safer “ in my opinion.

 

Flame away . I’m going to walk 9.

[Nessism]

I don't have a daughter. But if I did I would struggle mightily with this. I agree and understand the idea that women should choose and decide on Their own dress and bodies. But. What I have issue with is when they cannot cope with the consequences of these choices. In other words. You dress a certain way. Don't be shocked when you are thought of as meat. It's human nature. No matter how hard we try. You will not get around this.

 

 

I think sometimes women want the attention that comes from being sexy such as what comes from wearing tight fitting clothes and showing skin (and cleavage), while at the same time they want to be respected and to be treated equally to men. Unfortunately, it's hard to have it both ways so the LPGA is making the decision for everyone.

[QuigleyDU]

Whats the LPGA??

[ThinkingPlus]

Whats the LPGA??

Try looking in a non-mysoginist dictionary.

[QuigleyDU]

Whats the LPGA??

Try looking in a non-mysoginist dictionary.

 

haha. i was joking, i actually enjoy the LPGA. sometimes more the the PGA.

[Lennac]

Digging up an old thread. I was looking the LPGA's website today, and I found it amusing/ironic that they had a third party ad on the site with a photo showing a player wearing what would be considered an illegal outfit, a racer top with a bare midriff. It's obvious why the company is going out of business. They appear to have lost any business that was coming from the players.

 

 

It might be amusing/ironic, but the LPGA site itself has very little to do with the type of ads that appear on their site. They sign up for a service (likely Google) and they automatic handle the advertising based on demographic metrics, the type of site, etc.

 

Either way, I don't understand the uproar about the dress code. I guess the problem is the LPGA didn't institute the same type of culture that has been present in the PGA from the start. It's hard to "take away" privileges from the players without getting a fair amount of pushback. But the bottom line is, the clothing options for the men are still much more restrictive than the women (still can't wear shorts as far as I'm aware - or do the players just choose to communally uphold these unwritten rules?). Basically, aside from choices regarding colour, all the men on the PGA seem to dress nearly identical: collared shirt, slacks, baseball hat.

 

I'm going to be a little cynical here (and call me whatever if you want), but one of the most vocal golfers when it comes to the dress code has been Paige Spiranac who seems to be more famous (and probably makes more money) from her instagram page than for her golfing ability - I'm not saying she's not a good golfer, she would absolutely kick my a** - it just seems that she probably sees the new dress code as limiting her ability to get noticed.

 

At the end of the day, I can't speak for the motivations of the LPGA, but I would hope (and assume) that this is about projecting the image that these are world class athletes and should be seen as professional golfers first and foremost, and not eye candy. The easiest way for that to happen is for the image of the LPGA golfers to emulate the (generally) professional attire of the PGA tour.

[Argonne69]

Yes, I understand that ad networks can dish up all type of cr*p. This site often displays ads that violate the "community standards". However, if the tour was serious about its projected image, don't you think that monitoring the ads that show up on its website would be part of the equation? I'm IT literate, but I have to imagine that the vast, vast majority of folks visiting the LPGA website have no idea how ads are served up. As far as they're concerned, the LPGA placed the ads there.

[MadGolfer76]

• Players will be required to submit to the "bottom area" test on the 1st tee. Players failing the test will be sent to the principal's office
  

 

 

Late response, but you wouldn't believe the things I have had to discuss with female students about clothing selection (always with female staff present).

 

I remember one time where a female high school student was wearing a rather thin, pink top with some kind of Chinese lettering on it. The kind you get from like a shopping mall kiosk or something. The foreign languages teacher told me the lettering said something like, "Dumb American Sk**k" on it.

 

And I don't mean skunk. Had to listen to "nuh-uh!" for the next 15 minutes.

[North Texas]

Digging up an old thread. I was looking the LPGA's website today, and I found it amusing/ironic that they had a third party ad on the site with a photo showing a player wearing what would be considered an illegal outfit, a racer top with a bare midriff. It's obvious why the company is going out of business. They appear to have lost any business that was coming from the players.

 

 

It might be amusing/ironic, but the LPGA site itself has very little to do with the type of ads that appear on their site. They sign up for a service (likely Google) and they automatic handle the advertising based on demographic metrics, the type of site, etc.

 

Either way, I don't understand the uproar about the dress code. I guess the problem is the LPGA didn't institute the same type of culture that has been present in the PGA from the start. It's hard to "take away" privileges from the players without getting a fair amount of pushback. But the bottom line is, the clothing options for the men are still much more restrictive than the women (still can't wear shorts as far as I'm aware - or do the players just choose to communally uphold these unwritten rules?). Basically, aside from choices regarding colour, all the men on the PGA seem to dress nearly identical: collared shirt, slacks, baseball hat.

 

I'm going to be a little cynical here (and call me whatever if you want), but one of the most vocal golfers when it comes to the dress code has been Paige Spiranac who seems to be more famous (and probably makes more money) from her instagram page than for her golfing ability - I'm not saying she's not a good golfer, she would absolutely kick my a** - it just seems that she probably sees the new dress code as limiting her ability to get noticed.

 

At the end of the day, I can't speak for the motivations of the LPGA, but I would hope (and assume) that this is about projecting the image that these are world class athletes and should be seen as professional golfers first and foremost, and not eye candy. The easiest way for that to happen is for the image of the LPGA golfers to emulate the (generally) professional attire of the PGA tour.

 

You do realize that there is absolutely no connection between the LPGA and Paige Spiranec, right?

[Bushwood Country Club]

Somehow, I dont think Paige is having ANY problem getting noticed....

[clemsoncowboys]

Just don't know about this...fine line I guess.

[bigchucksr]

My message to the LPGA is simple--"The more cheek I can see, or think I can see, the more I will watch your tournaments and the commercials that underwrite them!" In this day of the Tivo, pause frame, replay, the way the women golfers are dressing certainly meets my approval.

[ThinkingPlus]

My message to the LPGA is simple--"The more cheek I can see, or think I can see, the more I will watch your tournaments and the commercials that underwrite them!" In this day of the Tivo, pause frame, replay, the way the women golfers are dressing certainly meets my approval.

I suspect you are not the type of viewer that the LPGA is trying to encourage.

[North Texas]

My message to the LPGA is simple--"The more cheek I can see, or think I can see, the more I will watch your tournaments and the commercials that underwrite them!" In this day of the Tivo, pause frame, replay, the way the women golfers are dressing certainly meets my approval.

I suspect you are not the type of viewer that the LPGA is trying to encourage.

 

Not to mention that his viewer group is so small that it has absolutely no effect on anything.

[KBong]

I suspect you are not the type of viewer that the LPGA is trying to encourage.

Agree

BUT

If the LPGA truly want to stop catering to the market where guys want to see some skimpy outfits on LPGA pros, they'd initiate a policy where the LPGA pros must abide by the dress code that the host club employs.....therefore I think 30-40% of the LPGA pros would have to change their apparel.

 

Some examples of outfits that would likely not be allowed on the majority of clubs that the LPGA plays on.

 

 

[ThinkingPlus]

I suspect you are not the type of viewer that the LPGA is trying to encourage.

Agree

BUT

If the LPGA truly want to stop catering to the market where guys want to see some skin on LPGA pros, they'd initiate a policy where the LPGA pros must abide by the dress code that the host club employs.....therefore I think 30-40% of the LPGA pros would have to change their apparel.

 

Some examples of outfits that would likely not be allowed on the majority of clubs that the LPGA plays on.

 

 

OK with me.

[KBong]

I suspect you are not the type of viewer that the LPGA is trying to encourage.

Agree

BUT

If the LPGA truly want to stop catering to the market where guys want to see some skin on LPGA pros, they'd initiate a policy where the LPGA pros must abide by the dress code that the host club employs.....therefore I think 30-40% of the LPGA pros would have to change their apparel.

 

Some examples of outfits that would likely not be allowed on the majority of clubs that the LPGA plays on.

 

 

OK with me.

Really??.....do you belong to a private club that would allow MW's top and the other very short skorts or shorts above?

I deleted the MW pic from my post above as the mods might think it's too risque though acceptable by the LPGA,, host clubs, etc

[bigchucksr]

My message to the LPGA is simple--"The more cheek I can see, or think I can see, the more I will watch your tournaments and the commercials that underwrite them!" In this day of the Tivo, pause frame, replay, the way the women golfers are dressing certainly meets my approval.

I suspect you are not the type of viewer that the LPGA is trying to encourage.

 

Not to mention that his viewer group is so small that it has absolutely no effect on anything.

Uh, is there something wrong with admiring the athletic female form? I doubt that many male fans complained about the current dress on the circuit but I'm sure the feminists are probably involved. How long before these whiners have lady swimmers, divers, and volley ball players in bloomers?

[ThinkingPlus]

I suspect you are not the type of viewer that the LPGA is trying to encourage.

Agree

BUT

If the LPGA truly want to stop catering to the market where guys want to see some skin on LPGA pros, they'd initiate a policy where the LPGA pros must abide by the dress code that the host club employs.....therefore I think 30-40% of the LPGA pros would have to change their apparel.

 

Some examples of outfits that would likely not be allowed on the majority of clubs that the LPGA plays on.

 

 

OK with me.

Really??.....do you belong to a private club that would allow MW's top and the other very short skorts or shorts above?

I deleted the MW pic from my post above as the mods might think it's too risque though acceptable by the LPGA,, host clubs, etc

You misunderstand. My, albeit terse, post was trying to agree with you.

[Shilgy]

Of those three Wie is the only one with an issue at most clubs I would think. And isn't that top no longer allowable on the lpga?

[KBong]

Of those three Wie is the only one with an issue at most clubs I would think. And isn't that top no longer allowable on the lpga?

Of the private courses I've played in Canada....IK Kim, Gulbis and Minjee's shorts or skorts would be too short per the women's dress codes.

Yes...I believe under new LPGA guidelines/policies....Wie's top or lack there of .........would not be allowed and rightfully so.

[TerpFangolfer]

you had to pick that pic of IK :swoon: ...but it's all good - she finally got her major last year!

[Golf Dino]

Of those three Wie is the only one with an issue at most clubs I would think. And isn't that top no longer allowable on the lpga?

Of the private courses I've played in Canada....IK Kim, Gulbis and Minjee's shorts or skorts would be too short per the women's dress codes.

Yes...I believe under new LPGA guidelines/policies....Wie's top or lack there of .........would not be allowed and rightfully so.

 

I've grown up in private clubs and I've been a member of one for a good part of my adult life. In addition, I still play private and semi-private clubs and I don't believe that IK Kim or Minjee Lee would run afoul of the "dress codes" in the clubs. I'm sure some would grumble about it, but it would not run afoul of the dress codes. Natalie Gulbis' skort on the other hand would get some criticism and possibly not be allowed given that it is so short and a bit too revealing. The same with Wie ... that top would prevent her from playing in every single club. Now if Wie's top had a collar on it and the cut extended to the top of the shoulder & arm, it would pass muster.

[Shilgy]

IK's shorts would be fine at our club. Nat's might be a bit short. We have a lot of high school age and below students that learn at the golf academy attached to our club. Perhaps it is the LPGA "bad" influence but a lot of them wear shorts/skorts that are quite short compared to the older women members.

[lumberman2462]

Nobody at my club would say anything about the outfits of the three pictured above....Oh, a few eyebrows may be raised by some of the wives of our Elder members (I can think of two that have nothing nice to say about anyone) - but that would be it.

[MoneyPlayer33]

If we had girls like that at my club wearing outfits like that they would have no problem finding a foursome every weeK . Might have a waiting list . Lol

[KBong]

If we had girls like that at my club wearing outfits like that they would have no problem finding a foursome every weeK . Might have a waiting list . Lol

Have you ever noticed that a woman who is a "5" at the mall....suddenly becomes an "8" at the course. :taunt:

[theboypinoy]

If we had girls like that at my club wearing outfits like that they would have no problem finding a foursome every weeK . Might have a waiting list . Lol

Have you ever noticed that a woman who is a "5" at the mall....suddenly becomes an "8" at the course. :taunt:

 

Golf does do something to my eyes haha!