Does anybody miss the old Be Better Golf Youtube Show?

[gspmjp]

I wonder what all his Teachers must think. Jumping from one to the other as a student and then selling videos and now running clinics and doing swing evals. I know they're all too professional to comment publicly but if you got them all together wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall

[PowderedToastMan]

I wonder what all his Teachers must think. Jumping from one to the other as a student and then selling videos and now running clinics and doing swing evals. I know they're all too professional to comment publicly but if you got them all together wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall

Nobody likes their generosity being taken advantage of.

[RichieHunt]

I wonder what all his Teachers must think. Jumping from one to the other as a student and then selling videos and now running clinics and doing swing evals. I know they're all too professional to comment publicly but if you got them all together wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall

 

Only an insecure teacher would be upset with him jumping from one coach to the other and running a clinic with Tony Luczak and Tim Yelverton.

 

 

 

 

 

RH

[Petunia Sprinkle]

The videos he makes with top teachers are, in a sense, ads for those teachers, so they probably don’t have too much of an issue with him. They’ve probably all seen various characters of dubious abilities trying to scramble together some kind of career before.

[RichieHunt]

The videos he makes with top teachers are, in a sense, ads for those teachers, so they probably don't have too much of an issue with him. They've probably all seen various characters of dubious abilities trying to scramble together some kind of career before.

 

If somebody is a good enough teacher and Brendan is supposed to be incompetent, then that teacher surely has nothing to worry about. I know Brendan has paid for lessons with some of the teachers and he has 28,000 YouTube subscribers which is good exposure for those teachers.

 

I can understand being upset with him if I were a teacher that gave him free time and information and then he goes and badmouths me and my work.

 

But if a teacher is upset that he jumps to different teachers, even if they did not charge him for the lesson, they really have nobody to blame but themselves and it's still incredibly insecure. There's competition in golf instruction. Those golf coaches with different philosophies will always exist. Your job is to focus on yourself and do the best coaching you can possibly do and things will work out for you in the end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

[Petunia Sprinkle]

The videos he makes with top teachers are, in a sense, ads for those teachers, so they probably don't have too much of an issue with him. They've probably all seen various characters of dubious abilities trying to scramble together some kind of career before.

 

If somebody is a good enough teacher and Brendan is supposed to be incompetent, then that teacher surely has nothing to worry about. I know Brendan has paid for lessons with some of the teachers and he has 28,000 YouTube subscribers which is good exposure for those teachers.

 

I can understand being upset with him if I were a teacher that gave him free time and information and then he goes and badmouths me and my work.

 

But if a teacher is upset that he jumps to different teachers, even if they did not charge him for the lesson, they really have nobody to blame but themselves and it's still incredibly insecure. There's competition in golf instruction. Those golf coaches with different philosophies will always exist. Your job is to focus on yourself and do the best coaching you can possibly do and things will work out for you in the end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

 

Also, I think everyone views Brendan’s work as an exposition of various teaching approaches, so his ‘flitting from flower to flower’ (King & I reference) is probably seen as a given rather than an infidelity.

[oikos1]

Isn't this the very reason that O'Grady will banish from the kingdom those who speak of it's ways and reveal it's secrets.

[RichieHunt]

Isn't this the very reason that O'Grady will banish from the kingdom those who speak of it's ways and reveal it's secrets.

 

It's not the very reason. Can be one of them. Although he does tell them to not talk about certain stuff ahead of time. Big difference from that and getting a lesson from somebody that they know is being videotaped and being broadcasted on YouTube and by all appearances they have given consent to do so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

[oikos1]

Isn't this the very reason that O'Grady will banish from the kingdom those who speak of it's ways and reveal it's secrets.

 

It's not the very reason. Can be one of them. Although he does tell them to not talk about certain stuff ahead of time. Big difference from that and getting a lesson from somebody that they know is being videotaped and being broadcasted on YouTube and by all appearances they have given consent to do so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

 

That's exactly the point. Pretty tough to have "proprietary" information in regards to the golf swing. Mac thinks he does, therefore the hush-hush. Anyone making a video with Be Better Golf would have to have at least considered the various outcomes and possibilities of such a venture. In fact, I would bet they knew his intentions prior to allowing him to film. I doubt he is viewed as a threat in the eyes of quality instructors.

[chrisgilly09]

^ Good point, lets ask that my swing evolution fella to find out

[PowderedToastMan]

I wonder what all his Teachers must think. Jumping from one to the other as a student and then selling videos and now running clinics and doing swing evals. I know they're all too professional to comment publicly but if you got them all together wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall

 

Only an insecure teacher would be upset with him jumping from one coach to the other and running a clinic with Tony Luczak and Tim Yelverton.

 

 

 

 

 

RH

I think you are missing the point. Jumping from teacher to teacher doesn’t matter. Profiting from instructors generosity, then using their good name to promote his channel and keep the profits, that’s where the problem lies.

[oikos1]

^ Good point, lets ask that my swing evolution fella to find out

 

Lol

[RichieHunt]

 

I think you are missing the point. Jumping from teacher to teacher doesn't matter. Profiting from instructors generosity, then using their good name to promote his channel and keep the profits, that's where the problem lies.

 

That's part of the deal. He created a channel that drew in subscribers. The instructors knew he was filming them and going to put it on his channel. The instructors got paid for their services and got basically advertising of their services in the process. None of those instructors have 28,000 subscribers to their channel. In fact, they don't have 28,000 subscribers combined.

 

I don't believe any single one of the instructors has complaints about him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

[Krt22]

I wonder what all his Teachers must think. Jumping from one to the other as a student and then selling videos and now running clinics and doing swing evals. I know they're all too professional to comment publicly but if you got them all together wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall

 

Only an insecure teacher would be upset with him jumping from one coach to the other and running a clinic with Tony Luczak and Tim Yelverton.

 

 

 

 

 

RH

I think you are missing the point. Jumping from teacher to teacher doesn't matter. Profiting from instructors generosity, then using their good name to promote his channel and keep the profits, that's where the problem lies.

 

Indeed.

[farva]

 

 

I think you are missing the point. Jumping from teacher to teacher doesn't matter. Profiting from instructors generosity, then using their good name to promote his channel and keep the profits, that's where the problem lies.

 

That's part of the deal. He created a channel that drew in subscribers. The instructors knew he was filming them and going to put it on his channel. The instructors got paid for their services and got basically advertising of their services in the process. None of those instructors have 28,000 subscribers to their channel. In fact, they don't have 28,000 subscribers combined.

 

I don't believe any single one of the instructors has complaints about him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

 

Not trying to be a smart a**, but in regards to YouTube #'s, a quick search of 3 teachers off top of my head- Bobby Lopez, GG, and Monte have over 30k subscribers combined. Carry on...

[ddetts]

I think you are missing the point. Jumping from teacher to teacher doesn't matter. Profiting from instructors generosity, then using their good name to promote his channel and keep the profits, that's where the problem lies.

 

That's part of the deal. He created a channel that drew in subscribers. The instructors knew he was filming them and going to put it on his channel. The instructors got paid for their services and got basically advertising of their services in the process. None of those instructors have 28,000 subscribers to their channel. In fact, they don't have 28,000 subscribers combined.

 

I don't believe any single one of the instructors has complaints about him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

 

Not trying to be a smart a**, but in regards to YouTube #'s, a quick search of 3 teachers off top of my head- Bobby Lopez, GG, and Monte have over 30k subscribers combined. Carry on...

 

Malaska Golf has 18K as of writing this and Monte is sitting at 15K, so agree with farva here.

[RichieHunt]

I think you are missing the point. Jumping from teacher to teacher doesn't matter. Profiting from instructors generosity, then using their good name to promote his channel and keep the profits, that's where the problem lies.

 

That's part of the deal. He created a channel that drew in subscribers. The instructors knew he was filming them and going to put it on his channel. The instructors got paid for their services and got basically advertising of their services in the process. None of those instructors have 28,000 subscribers to their channel. In fact, they don't have 28,000 subscribers combined.

 

I don't believe any single one of the instructors has complaints about him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

 

Not trying to be a smart a**, but in regards to YouTube #'s, a quick search of 3 teachers off top of my head- Bobby Lopez, GG, and Monte have over 30k subscribers combined. Carry on...

 

Malaska Golf has 18K as of writing this and Monte is sitting at 15K, so agree with farva here.

 

Okay, you got me.

 

Combined they have more than 28K subscribers.

 

But they are still far short of 28K alone which is what Brendon has.

 

Are any of the teachers disgusted by Brendan? I'd like to hear it. Otherwise the arguments against him are basically built on a house of cards.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

[Z1ggy16]

Only ever starting watched his channel because of his collaboration with Monte. I watched a few of his Malaska vids recently... Meh. Kind of an odd guy, not my favorite golf channel. If I want instruction or vlog, there's about 10 other places I'd go first.

[pappaf2]

I don't really have an issue with Brendan posting the videos of the instructors. They all know he is filming and I am sure he lets them know he will be posting them on a youtube channel. If he can make a little money off that and the instructors don't mind being affiliated with that then more power to him.

 

The trying to charge people to play with him a some serious cow dung though. Sure he's entitled to ask, but it's a major D-bag move.

[Circaflex]

I think you are missing the point. Jumping from teacher to teacher doesn't matter. Profiting from instructors generosity, then using their good name to promote his channel and keep the profits, that's where the problem lies.

 

That's part of the deal. He created a channel that drew in subscribers. The instructors knew he was filming them and going to put it on his channel. The instructors got paid for their services and got basically advertising of their services in the process. None of those instructors have 28,000 subscribers to their channel. In fact, they don't have 28,000 subscribers combined.

 

I don't believe any single one of the instructors has complaints about him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

 

Not trying to be a smart a**, but in regards to YouTube #'s, a quick search of 3 teachers off top of my head- Bobby Lopez, GG, and Monte have over 30k subscribers combined. Carry on...

 

Malaska Golf has 18K as of writing this and Monte is sitting at 15K, so agree with farva here.

 

Okay, you got me.

 

Combined they have more than 28K subscribers.

 

But they are still far short of 28K alone which is what Brendon has.

 

Are any of the teachers disgusted by Brendan? I'd like to hear it. Otherwise the arguments against him are basically built on a house of cards.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

 

To be fair, GG is more of a instagram guy and not necessarily youtube videos. I know that wasn't the original comparison, but his has a much larger following on social media.

[Circaflex]

The trying to charge people to play with him a some serious cow dung though.

 

That is pretty low, I had no idea he did that and finding this out is disappointing. I find it strange, he often says during videos people can come out and play with him, he will even throw tee times out there and say to come out if you're free to play. I wonder if then he will charge you. Wonder if he tries to charge the random people he gets paired up with? I know Golfholics said they wont ever do another video with him.

[Z1ggy16]

The trying to charge people to play with him a some serious cow dung though.

 

That is pretty low, I had no idea he did that and finding this out is disappointing. I find it strange, he often says during videos people can come out and play with him, he will even throw tee times out there and say to come out if you're free to play. I wonder if then he will charge you. Wonder if he tries to charge the random people he gets paired up with? I know Golfholics said they wont ever do another video with him.

If anything they should be charging him. He's getting to use their name and anything they do or say to profit... and they get nothing out of it.

[oikos1]

The trying to charge people to play with him a some serious cow dung though.

 

That is pretty low, I had no idea he did that and finding this out is disappointing. I find it strange, he often says during videos people can come out and play with him, he will even throw tee times out there and say to come out if you're free to play. I wonder if then he will charge you. Wonder if he tries to charge the random people he gets paired up with? I know Golfholics said they wont ever do another video with him.

If anything they should be charging him. He's getting to use their name and anything they do or say to profit... and they get nothing out of it.

That's what lawyers are for. I'd be more concerned about the quality of his instruction if I was a paying customer.

[Schnee]

The trying to charge people to play with him a some serious cow dung though.

 

That is pretty low, I had no idea he did that and finding this out is disappointing. I find it strange, he often says during videos people can come out and play with him, he will even throw tee times out there and say to come out if you're free to play. I wonder if then he will charge you. Wonder if he tries to charge the random people he gets paired up with? I know Golfholics said they wont ever do another video with him.

 

Why’d Golfholics say that?

[Z1ggy16]

The trying to charge people to play with him a some serious cow dung though.

 

That is pretty low, I had no idea he did that and finding this out is disappointing. I find it strange, he often says during videos people can come out and play with him, he will even throw tee times out there and say to come out if you're free to play. I wonder if then he will charge you. Wonder if he tries to charge the random people he gets paired up with? I know Golfholics said they wont ever do another video with him.

 

Why'd Golfholics say that?

I can see it now... Brandon invites coach and Marko out to play 18... At the end Brandon goes, "Hey guys that was really cool.... Also, that'll be $150 each."

 

Edit: Here's part 2 of their vlog

 

Oddly enough, the hyperlink to Part 1 is "currently unavailable".

[Circaflex]

The trying to charge people to play with him a some serious cow dung though.

 

That is pretty low, I had no idea he did that and finding this out is disappointing. I find it strange, he often says during videos people can come out and play with him, he will even throw tee times out there and say to come out if you're free to play. I wonder if then he will charge you. Wonder if he tries to charge the random people he gets paired up with? I know Golfholics said they wont ever do another video with him.

 

Why'd Golfholics say that?

 

I guess when Golfholics play, they are out there for fun. They give each other gimmes, and are out there to have a good time. I guess BBG is just super competitive and very serious. He didn't want to give gimmes and just played as if it were a super intense money match. I guess just different personalities and reasons to play the game. They have been asked in the YT comments to do another video with him, but it has always been a firm no, or absolutely not.

[NotForeLong]

I think you are missing the point. Jumping from teacher to teacher doesn't matter. Profiting from instructors generosity, then using their good name to promote his channel and keep the profits, that's where the problem lies.

 

That's part of the deal. He created a channel that drew in subscribers. The instructors knew he was filming them and going to put it on his channel. The instructors got paid for their services and got basically advertising of their services in the process. None of those instructors have 28,000 subscribers to their channel. In fact, they don't have 28,000 subscribers combined.

 

I don't believe any single one of the instructors has complaints about him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

 

Not trying to be a smart a**, but in regards to YouTube #'s, a quick search of 3 teachers off top of my head- Bobby Lopez, GG, and Monte have over 30k subscribers combined. Carry on...

 

Malaska Golf has 18K as of writing this and Monte is sitting at 15K, so agree with farva here.

 

Okay, you got me.

 

Combined they have more than 28K subscribers.

 

But they are still far short of 28K alone which is what Brendon has.

 

Are any of the teachers disgusted by Brendan? I'd like to hear it. Otherwise the arguments against him are basically built on a house of cards.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

 

IMO him charging people to play with him is certainly an argument against him. I don’t care about jumping from teacher to teacher but that he thinks so much of himself that he charges people to play with him is just so lol. It’s harmless I suppose but it does make him a clown. Possibly a harmless clown, but a clown nonetheless. I also think the video he did with Christo was perhaps the best piece of unintentional comedy that the golf world has ever seen. The two top armchair instructors hacking it around a dog track and playing bogey golf will never get old.

[Petunia Sprinkle]

I can’t imagine why anyone would want to pay to play with someone that none of these great teachers have been able to help. ?

[Krt22]

I can't imagine why anyone would want to pay to play with someone that none of these great teachers have been able to help.

 

He may view your swing and give you the same advice to fix your swing as if your swing flaw was the same as his own! Talk about bonus multiplier

[Schnee]

 

I think you are missing the point. Jumping from teacher to teacher doesn't matter. Profiting from instructors generosity, then using their good name to promote his channel and keep the profits, that's where the problem lies.

 

That's part of the deal. He created a channel that drew in subscribers. The instructors knew he was filming them and going to put it on his channel. The instructors got paid for their services and got basically advertising of their services in the process. None of those instructors have 28,000 subscribers to their channel. In fact, they don't have 28,000 subscribers combined.

 

I don't believe any single one of the instructors has complaints about him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RH

 

He also didn’t have 28,000 subscribers when those instructors were featured to be fair. He had a few (2-3000) thousand subs before going to George , Dana, and Monte. No doubt those instructors benefitted from that promotion, but Brendon’s channel grew exponentially from featuring those instructors. Funny enough, if you look at the videos with those instructors, the view counts are the highest on his channel.