Ping I210 irons & Glide forged wedge

[GolfMonster09]

And embargoed photos will get pulled off of here anyhow.

 

BTW, has anyone confirmed tungsten in the wedge toes? They have that framing around the loft stamp, and it's similar to when they stuffed it into the s55...

 

Yes - tungsten buried in the toe of the wedges. They're also much smaller than the Glide 2.0 wedges. And no sole grinds or custom grinds on them either. They're pretty confident it's the best wedge they've designed.

[nova6868]

Why do all manufacturers think that more forgiving irons MUST have loads of offset. Is there not a huge market for better players who want more forgiveness in the irons without the hook bias.

 

They don't make all 460cc drivers or even hybrids offset so why do it with the irons.

 

I like the slight progressive offset. Offset in the long irons helps with launching the ball and closing the face. Most players will benefit from this as the irons get longer - even many professionals.

 

I understand what you're saying. There may be a set of players who want forgiving irons with no offset whatsoever, but it's probably a very small market segment. The way PING has their iron lines arranged makes good sense.

[Pleasedwith3putts]

Why do all manufacturers think that more forgiving irons MUST have loads of offset. Is there not a huge market for better players who want more forgiveness in the irons without the hook bias.

 

They don't make all 460cc drivers or even hybrids offset so why do it with the irons.

 

I like the slight progressive offset. Offset in the long irons helps with launching the ball and closing the face. Most players will benefit from this as the irons get longer - even many professionals.

 

I understand what you're saying. There may be a set of players who want forgiving irons with no offset whatsoever, but it's probably a very small market segment. The way PING has their iron lines arranged makes good sense.

 

I would like the i200 / 210 if they had no more than 0.14" of offset in a 4 iron, the same as the P790. The i200 has 0.19" and the difference is really noticeable, a deal breaker for me. Mizuno MMC has 0.13" as another reference point, so Ping is out of line with their direct competition

[thomas55]

Cleaner and sharper than i200s these the new blades and forged wedges I have to say that Ping is making some of the best looking clubs in golf right now. I never thought I would say that about Ping clubs but I would be proud of a full bag of Ping clubs i210s or the blades with the new wedges.Great job Ping! Hey Srixon take note.

[Konklifer]

Is there an ES offering in the forged wedges? I'm not talking just a grind, but an identical profile to the current ES wedge?

[animalgolfs]

Is there an ES offering in the forged wedges? I'm not talking just a grind, but an identical profile to the current ES wedge?

 

I asked the same

[300_yard_drives]

Why do all manufacturers think that more forgiving irons MUST have loads of offset. Is there not a huge market for better players who want more forgiveness in the irons without the hook bias.

 

They don't make all 460cc drivers or even hybrids offset so why do it with the irons.

 

I like the slight progressive offset. Offset in the long irons helps with launching the ball and closing the face. Most players will benefit from this as the irons get longer - even many professionals.

 

I understand what you're saying. There may be a set of players who want forgiving irons with no offset whatsoever, but it's probably a very small market segment. The way PING has their iron lines arranged makes good sense.

Get a reverse combo. I did it with iblade and i200. Pretty darn good set up. I200 7-p and iblade 4,5&6

[2Bad4u]

Is there an ES offering in the forged wedges? I'm not talking just a grind, but an identical profile to the current ES wedge?

 

Everything so far seems to indicate that there is only one standard sole/grind offering. Perhaps that will change if the demand for these wedges justifies more consumer options.

[PBrowne3]

Why do all manufacturers think that more forgiving irons MUST have loads of offset. Is there not a huge market for better players who want more forgiveness in the irons without the hook bias.

 

They don't make all 460cc drivers or even hybrids offset so why do it with the irons.

 

I like the slight progressive offset. Offset in the long irons helps with launching the ball and closing the face. Most players will benefit from this as the irons get longer - even many professionals.

 

I understand what you're saying. There may be a set of players who want forgiving irons with no offset whatsoever, but it's probably a very small market segment. The way PING has their iron lines arranged makes good sense.

 

I would like the i200 / 210 if they had no more than 0.14" of offset in a 4 iron, the same as the P790. The i200 has 0.19" and the difference is really noticeable, a deal breaker for me. Mizuno MMC has 0.13" as another reference point, so Ping is out of line with their direct competition

For every 1 degree in loft that you bend the club, you add or decrease the offset for 0.16", so all you have to do is add 1/2* of loft to these clubs and you will decrease the offset by 0.08" and voila! you will have what you are looking for.

[Pleasedwith3putts]

Why do all manufacturers think that more forgiving irons MUST have loads of offset. Is there not a huge market for better players who want more forgiveness in the irons without the hook bias.

 

They don't make all 460cc drivers or even hybrids offset so why do it with the irons.

 

I like the slight progressive offset. Offset in the long irons helps with launching the ball and closing the face. Most players will benefit from this as the irons get longer - even many professionals.

 

I understand what you're saying. There may be a set of players who want forgiving irons with no offset whatsoever, but it's probably a very small market segment. The way PING has their iron lines arranged makes good sense.

 

I would like the i200 / 210 if they had no more than 0.14" of offset in a 4 iron, the same as the P790. The i200 has 0.19" and the difference is really noticeable, a deal breaker for me. Mizuno MMC has 0.13" as another reference point, so Ping is out of line with their direct competition

For every 1 degree in loft that you bend the club, you add or decrease the offset for 0.16", so all you have to do is add 1/2* of loft to these clubs and you will decrease the offset by 0.08" and voila! you will have what you are looking for.

 

According to Tom Wishon 2 degrees weaker = 1.5mm which is only 0.06". http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/523749-effect-of-bending-irons-weak-loft-on-offset/

 

Then see the experience of Nessism in that thread who found 2* still didn't move the dial

 

Solid suggestion, I just don't know if it would take 0.5 degrees or even more than 2 to get where I needed, but 2 would add too much bounce anyway

[PBrowne3]

Why do all manufacturers think that more forgiving irons MUST have loads of offset. Is there not a huge market for better players who want more forgiveness in the irons without the hook bias.

 

They don't make all 460cc drivers or even hybrids offset so why do it with the irons.

 

I like the slight progressive offset. Offset in the long irons helps with launching the ball and closing the face. Most players will benefit from this as the irons get longer - even many professionals.

 

I understand what you're saying. There may be a set of players who want forgiving irons with no offset whatsoever, but it's probably a very small market segment. The way PING has their iron lines arranged makes good sense.

 

I would like the i200 / 210 if they had no more than 0.14" of offset in a 4 iron, the same as the P790. The i200 has 0.19" and the difference is really noticeable, a deal breaker for me. Mizuno MMC has 0.13" as another reference point, so Ping is out of line with their direct competition

For every 1 degree in loft that you bend the club, you add or decrease the offset for 0.16", so all you have to do is add 1/2* of loft to these clubs and you will decrease the offset by 0.08" and voila! you will have what you are looking for.

 

According to Tom Wishon 2 degrees weaker = 1.5mm which is only 0.06". http://www.golfwrx.c...loft-on-offset/

 

Then see the experience of Nessism in that thread who found 2* still didn't move the dial

 

Solid suggestion, I just don't know if it would take 0.5 degrees or even more than 2 to get where I needed, but 2 would add too much bounce anyway

 

Interesting numbers. I got my figures from Chris Voshall from Mizuno. I have no idea which is correct.

[300_yard_drives]

Why do all manufacturers think that more forgiving irons MUST have loads of offset. Is there not a huge market for better players who want more forgiveness in the irons without the hook bias.

 

They don't make all 460cc drivers or even hybrids offset so why do it with the irons.

 

I like the slight progressive offset. Offset in the long irons helps with launching the ball and closing the face. Most players will benefit from this as the irons get longer - even many professionals.

 

I understand what you're saying. There may be a set of players who want forgiving irons with no offset whatsoever, but it's probably a very small market segment. The way PING has their iron lines arranged makes good sense.

 

I would like the i200 / 210 if they had no more than 0.14" of offset in a 4 iron, the same as the P790. The i200 has 0.19" and the difference is really noticeable, a deal breaker for me. Mizuno MMC has 0.13" as another reference point, so Ping is out of line with their direct competition

For every 1 degree in loft that you bend the club, you add or decrease the offset for 0.16", so all you have to do is add 1/2* of loft to these clubs and you will decrease the offset by 0.08" and voila! you will have what you are looking for.

 

According to Tom Wishon 2 degrees weaker = 1.5mm which is only 0.06". http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/523749-effect-of-bending-irons-weak-loft-on-offset/

 

Then see the experience of Nessism in that thread who found 2* still didn't move the dial

 

Solid suggestion, I just don't know if it would take 0.5 degrees or even more than 2 to get where I needed, but 2 would add too much bounce anyway

A master club builder can bend the offset out of irons that are a soft forging but I doubt a ping can be done

[Rippin6Gears]

US Open is over... I was now hoping to see more pictures and info on the i210 and i500 from Ping ughhhhhh

[matchavez]

The notch exists in some Ping irons to assist in bending. Can’t imagine bending the offset out of them would be a realistic option.

[mosesgolf]

Ping's design dept has been coming up with some real winners of late. These are mighty impressive.

[62@Oakmont]

Is there an ES offering in the forged wedges? I'm not talking just a grind, but an identical profile to the current ES wedge?

 

Everything so far seems to indicate that there is only one standard sole/grind offering. Perhaps that will change if the demand for these wedges justifies more consumer options.

 

Probably just the one off the shelf grind. I would imagine we’ll be able to order any of the custom grinds available through the Ping WRX department.

[2Bad4u]

Is there an ES offering in the forged wedges? I'm not talking just a grind, but an identical profile to the current ES wedge?

 

Everything so far seems to indicate that there is only one standard sole/grind offering. Perhaps that will change if the demand for these wedges justifies more consumer options.

 

Probably just the one off the shelf grind. I would imagine we'll be able to order any of the custom grinds available through the Ping WRX department.

 

I hope you are right about the custom grinds.

[dunn]

with i210's new CTP design the talking point is going to be about getting the elastomer even closer to the face.

 

Glide Forged the wedges all have tungsten embedded in the toe for increased MOI.

 

Dynamic Gold 105 will be stock in i210. and Dynamic Gold S300 in the Glide Forged Wedges.

 

 

So Ping has stopped using their own grips and now shafts. Any idea why ? Cheaper going with GP and TT.

true temper made alot of their steel shafts before, idk bout grips prolly GP or lamkin though

 

And yeah am nor too impressed with I210 like another poster stated...just mild tweak of I200 and not in a good way

[Sef]

I cant see any weight adjustability on the Glide forged wedge. That's probably a deal breaker for me as even the stainless Glide lob wedge with stick on weight that Ping produced for me at +0.75" came out at E1...…..it's currently back with them to consider making it less like swinging a sledgehammer

 

My Glide 2.0 Stealth wedges at +.5” came in at D5 & D6 which is perfect. Surprised to hear E1 at +.75. My biggest issue with ping has been getting the SW up in the woods.

[dlarocca1]

Absolutely love the wedges any idea on a release date?

[Geaux Gators]

I would be surprised if they didnt have custom grinds available through PingWRX

 

Im not saying they will, but I would be surprised if they didnt.

[SikhGolfer]

Wedges look sick! I think I'll stick to my i200s though, nothing about these demands an upgrade

[Bullunion]

These look yummy. Only complaint I have with ping irons is the shape. Very personal preference to me but i have never liked the shape of the club. Lots do tho. I used to hit the S56, looks like theres a bit of tech used from the S line

[CHM36]

Hunter Mahan was playing the i210 irons and Glide forged wedges at the Travelers today.

His caddie let me take a up close look into Hunter's bag at the driving range.

They look sweet!!!

[Gary Gutful]

Hunter Mahan was playing the i210 irons and Glide forged wedges at the Travelers today.

His caddie let me take a up close look into Hunter's bag at the driving range.

They look sweet!!!

Hunter who?

[Glaze22]

Nicest looking wedges I have ever seen!!!!!! I dont care if they are $250 a pop, I will get a 50, 56, and 60 right away.

[smeal818]

My local GG has a note on the entry easel saying that these clubs along with the new Titleist drivers are 'coming soon'; me thinks within a month or so.

[JourdanM]

Order date is 7/16

[Pleasedwith3putts]

I cant see any weight adjustability on the Glide forged wedge. That's probably a deal breaker for me as even the stainless Glide lob wedge with stick on weight that Ping produced for me at +0.75" came out at E1...…..it's currently back with them to consider making it less like swinging a sledgehammer

 

My Glide 2.0 Stealth wedges at +.5” came in at D5 & D6 which is perfect. Surprised to hear E1 at +.75. My biggest issue with ping has been getting the SW up in the woods.

 

Well I'm now on the verge of ditching Ping period after 30 years of loyal custom. I actually sent 11 irons back to them as nothing had been built within 4 sw of what they told me was deliverable at the point of order. Because it took me a while to get the swingweights checked (no need right? - Ping know what they're doing....) they "agreed" to do the set for $75 equivalent as a gesture of goodwill. Now two weeks later they come back and every one is still way off and the guy in customer services virtually accused me of lying when I told him they had come back bad.

 

As a cross check I measured a load of Ping clubs in my local retailer which all came out similar to the quoted spec on the same machine. Same with non-Ping clubs too, but they still don't get that either my clubs are 4+ sw heavier than the agreed target, or every club I checked in the retail store (including theirs) is 4+ sw lighter than the spec each OEM gives out.

 

I should add this is Ping in the UK. When I have bought clubs and had dealings with Ping when I was in US they were first class in all respects.

[cccdad]

Great looking sticks! I really like the wedges. Very clean look.

Brian