G400 Max...Holy Cow!!!

[jumpalot]

Which has the deeper face, the G400 or G4oo Max?

[Argonne69]

Which has the deeper face, the G400 or G4oo Max?

 

I'd say it's a wash.

 

[J9293]

Which has the deeper face, the G400 or G4oo Max?

 

I'd say it's a wash.

 

 

The G400 Max face looks wider but the G400 looks taller/deeper.

[Argonne69]

Both faces measure 68 mm on the photo, and 76 mm from the top of the club to the bottom of the sole. If there is any difference, it's minimal.

[J9293]

Both faces measure 68 mm on the photo, and 76 mm from the top of the club to the bottom of the sole. If there is any difference, it's minimal.

 

 

Fair enough. I guess the lighter color on the Max makes it look different.

[Titleist_PT23]

I played with a G400 Max this past weekend (10.5*, stock Alta CB shaft). I definitely liked the club, but not overwhelmed to the point where I feel I need to buy one today because it's a "game changer." Main points worth highlighting:

 

-I caught 7 drives pretty well. On 5 of the 7, I was no farther down the fairway than where I've been with my Titleist 910 D2 (taking rough average of well struck drives from many prior rounds in comparable wind direction/speed). 1 of the 7 was actually shorter, and the last of the 7 was probably 10-15 yards longer than comparable drives with the Titleist.

 

-I do feel like the G400 Max had a bit flatter trajectory, and the ball seemed a bit more stable into the wind or in a crosswind (guessing spin may be lower although the G400 Max also had slightly less (stamped) loft). Unfortunately, the turf where I play is very soft, and you aren't going to get any roll regardless (beyond a yard or two). Maybe the Ping would seem a lot better on firmer fairways where the ball can run-out a bit.

 

-The Ping did seem to retain a bit more distance on a few bad swings (10 yards maybe). However, I was in the rough and a ways back from a well-struck drive (i.e. reasonably bad mishit), so not sure how much this will really change things (i.e. probably the same reason some people don't feel like blades vs. CBs/GI do anything to really change their score).

 

Again, I liked the club, and will probably look to pick one up later this year if the price ever drops. But the variance in my swing is probably responsible for more than any difference in clubs...

[norge5]

I am a long time Ping fan but I agree with your assessment. I don't find it long or that more forgiving than other drivers. We are definitely in the minority it appears though.

[HackerDave]

I don't think it is longer. I personally hit the F8 longer, but I do think it is more forgiving, at least for my swing/lunge :-)

[nsxguy]

I played with a G400 Max this past weekend (10.5*, stock Alta CB shaft). I definitely liked the club, but not overwhelmed to the point where I feel I need to buy one today because it's a "game changer." Main points worth highlighting:

 

-I caught 7 drives pretty well. On 5 of the 7, I was no farther down the fairway than where I've been with my Titleist 910 D2 (taking rough average of well struck drives from many prior rounds in comparable wind direction/speed). 1 of the 7 was actually shorter, and the last of the 7 was probably 10-15 yards longer than comparable drives with the Titleist.

 

-I do feel like the G400 Max had a bit flatter trajectory, and the ball seemed a bit more stable into the wind or in a crosswind (guessing spin may be lower although the G400 Max also had slightly less (stamped) loft). Unfortunately, the turf where I play is very soft, and you aren't going to get any roll regardless (beyond a yard or two). Maybe the Ping would seem a lot better on firmer fairways where the ball can run-out a bit.

 

-The Ping did seem to retain a bit more distance on a few bad swings (10 yards maybe). However, I was in the rough and a ways back from a well-struck drive (i.e. reasonably bad mishit), so not sure how much this will really change things (i.e. probably the same reason some people don't feel like blades vs. CBs/GI do anything to really change their score).

 

Again, I liked the club, and will probably look to pick one up later this year if the price ever drops. But the variance in my swing is probably responsible for more than any difference in clubs...

 

THANK YOU !!!

 

And the difference in the CLUB, if any, is the SHAFT.

 

NO driver HEAD hits it any further than any other driver HEAD for over 10 YEARS; ever since they've all "maxed out" the COR/CT in their driver heads.

 

You MIGHT, due to manufacturing variance get a slightly hotter head that'll give you an extra TWO yards. Good luck finding it.

 

The rest is getting fit for the right shaft for YOUR swing. The shaft makes at least as much difference as the head, possibly more.

 

The MAX is a "higher" spinning and more forgiving head. "Too much" spin equals LESS distance. The fact that it's "higher spinning" means you need(?) a lower launching and/or spinning shaft to get the spin down to get your MAX distance.

 

:hi:

[Hacq]

The MAX is a "higher" spinning and more forgiving head. "Too much" spin equals LESS distance. The fact that it's "higher spinning" means you need(?) a lower launching and/or spinning shaft to get the spin down to get your MAX distance.

I have a 10.5* Max and that is what I am trying. Currently have Tour Green, Rogue Silver and AD-BB7 to try this spring.

[Wooderson]

While the max might spin a bit more than some drivers. It's not by much. I recently picked up a cheap SLDR S off the bay to test low spin vs the max and I can say it wasn't close. The max was consistently longer, much more playable, and even felt better.

 

The max is a really special golf club.

[sleezyt]

The MAX is a "higher" spinning and more forgiving head. "Too much" spin equals LESS distance. The fact that it's "higher spinning" means you need(?) a lower launching and/or spinning shaft to get the spin down to get your MAX distance.

I have a 10.5* Max and that is what I am trying. Currently have Tour Green, Rogue Silver and AD-BB7 to try this spring.

 

Just bought a tour green 75x and played it in my standard g400 9 degree head and it seems to have brought spin down more than the atmos black 7x i had before.

Will get some launch monitor numbers comparing the tour green and atmos in both my head and a 9 degree max.

[gabeebe]

The G400 is the easiest driver to hit straight that I have ever swung! Can't say enough good things about mine.

[3_Putt_Par]

Can't believe it's taken me almost a year to dial in the Max, but I finally put a Tour AD GP shaft in it and IT'S ALIVE!!!!!

[sneaky_pete]

Going to the Max I didn't find any distance, probably lost a little bit. What I do find is that I hit more fairways than I have ever hit before because on my bad strikes the result is nowhere near as bad as I would get with my previous drivers. I know by feel when I have "missed" the middle of the club and I will instinctively look way right because that is where my s*** shots go - continually amazed in that whilst the shot is still going right it is only marginally offline with the Max. not a massive block or a slice. that is the difference I find in this club - bad shots are less "bad"

[braveheart]

Anybody here want to sell there gmax with Alta or tour 65 stiff or regular, please let me know.

[OspreyCI]

Anybody here want to sell there gmax with Alta or tour 65 stiff or regular, please let me know.

Not sure you could pry my Max/Tour65 from my cold dead hands.

 

Sorry...

[sleezyt]

The MAX is a "higher" spinning and more forgiving head. "Too much" spin equals LESS distance. The fact that it's "higher spinning" means you need(?) a lower launching and/or spinning shaft to get the spin down to get your MAX distance.

I have a 10.5* Max and that is what I am trying. Currently have Tour Green, Rogue Silver and AD-BB7 to try this spring.

 

Just bought a tour green 75x and played it in my standard g400 9 degree head and it seems to have brought spin down more than the atmos black 7x i had before.

Will get some launch monitor numbers comparing the tour green and atmos in both my head and a 9 degree max.

Did not have my atmos with me but i hit the tour green in both 9 degree heads. And the max was roughly 10 yards shy of the standard head. I was consistently 280 carry at 2600 spin with my g400 and max was like 267-270 spinning at 3000 sometimes more. I had similar low misses on both and the standard head shot up to maybe 3000 spin where the max would go up to 3500 at times . Think ill go with an lst. Didnt see much in forgiveness difference. Sound/feel is awesome with standard head too.

[GolfTurkey]

I finally figured out how to hit the G400Max properly...just order a TS2 to replace it. Today was supposed to be the final round with it before the TS2 arrived and naturally I had the best driving round of my life.

[Bill Guy]

I finally figured out how to hit the G400Max properly...just order a TS2 to replace it. Today was supposed to be the final round with it before the TS2 arrived and naturally I had the best driving round of my life.

Hold on to the Max even if it is in the backup bag and let us know how you get on with the TS2 and how it compares

[Norboo]

Looking toward to G410 Plus...Holy Cow!!! Thread

[calfan36]

2 questions: In YouTube reviews I've seen with this driver, it seems like the testers get less ball speed with the head compared to most on the market. Have you guys found that to be true?

 

And second, how much spin have you been able to cut with aftermarket shafts relative to the stock Tour shaft?

[ewe8523]

I’ve been wanting to try this for a while, but hate the stock Ping shafts. Tonight there was a used Max at my GG with a Tensei Pro White shaft. This was a game changer. The Max is definitely the most forgiving head I’ve hit. The combo with the Tensei Pro White was getting me better results than the Rogue with Even Flow or Synergy or the Epic with Hzrdus Yellow.

[MtlJeff]

2 questions: In YouTube reviews I've seen with this driver, it seems like the testers get less ball speed with the head compared to most on the market. Have you guys found that to be true?

 

And second, how much spin have you been able to cut with aftermarket shafts relative to the stock Tour shaft?

 

I keep feeling like i'll death threats for saying this, but i honestly think it's an overrated driver. Certainly nothing wrong with it, it's very very forgiving, one of the most forgiving drivers on the market. But i don't get great ball speed or distance with it. My Epic SZ is longer, my Cobra F8+ is longer, and not by a small amount, maybe 10yds on an LM (i hit it far so 10yds is only about 3% or total distance but still)

 

I don't think it's worth of a 100 page thread. The G LS i used last season is every bit as good. I mentioned it earlier but i spin this club more with a 80g black tie than my F8+ with a 65 gram NV 2kxv. And by 300-400rpm

 

Again, it's not a bad driver, it's just not a ground breaking one for me

[The Full Monte]

I’m curious how opinions on the Max vary based on Handicap.

 

My guess is they are directly correlated

[The Full Monte]

I’m curious how opinions on the Max vary based on Handicap.

 

My guess is they are directly correlated

[The Full Monte]

I’m curious how opinions on the Max vary based on Handicap.

 

My guess is they are directly correlated

[GolfTurkey]

2 questions: In YouTube reviews I've seen with this driver, it seems like the testers get less ball speed with the head compared to most on the market. Have you guys found that to be true?

 

And second, how much spin have you been able to cut with aftermarket shafts relative to the stock Tour shaft?

 

I keep feeling like i'll death threats for saying this, but i honestly think it's an overrated driver. Certainly nothing wrong with it, it's very very forgiving, one of the most forgiving drivers on the market. But i don't get great ball speed or distance with it. My Epic SZ is longer, my Cobra F8+ is longer, and not by a small amount, maybe 10yds on an LM (i hit it far so 10yds is only about 3% or total distance but still)

 

I don't think it's worth of a 100 page thread. The G LS i used last season is every bit as good. I mentioned it earlier but i spin this club more with a 80g black tie than my F8+ with a 65 gram NV 2kxv. And by 300-400rpm

 

Again, it's not a bad driver, it's just not a ground breaking one for me

 

I also feel like it's overrated but for a totally different reason. I have hit my longest ever drives with it but it's the small number of lofts and lack of adjustability that makes it unsuitable for me.

 

I'm a low launcher and spinner whose miss is a hook so I need loft and an open clubface. If PING had made a 12 degree Max it would probably have been perfect for me. The G410 addresses the adjustability but sacrifices some forgiveness. The TS2 in 11.5 gives me what I need with more MOI than G410.

[nsxguy]

I'm curious how opinions on the Max vary based on Handicap.

 

My guess is they are directly correlated

I'm curious how opinions on the Max vary based on Handicap.

 

My guess is they are directly correlated

I'm curious how opinions on the Max vary based on Handicap.

 

My guess is they are directly correlated

 

Shazam !!!

 

You really ARE curious, aren't ya ? :cheesy:

 

 

[Ghostwedge]

I’m curious how opinions on the Max vary based on Handicap.

 

My guess is they are directly correlated

Ya.... not really, bunch of guys on the Tour use it and they arenʻt with Ping.