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Based upon Rick Shiels's Review...not looking good for the P760's...

 

 

 

 

Would be interesting to see a review of a P750/P730 combo set vs. P760's. Taylormade seems to be pricing themselves out of the market with premium pricing for average performance when compared to the likes of Mizuno, Cobra, Srixon for forged player irons.

 

I would argue that the P series of irons P770 & P750 lack the premium feel which you can find in irons from Mizuno & Cobra to justify the higher and premium prices that TaylorMade is charging. Can't compare the P760's, yet; however Shields eluded to liking hitting the non-speedfoam 8-PW more???

Yeah I do find it odd how they priced the black P790s. I can hear it in the board room now...

 

"We'll paint them black and charge $300 more per set, but change nothing else!!"

 

".... ..... GENIUS!!!!"

 

I think it's more of a jerk reaction to Callaway, and how they went after PXG sales with the Rogue irons. Make something "cool" looking, market the crap out of it and charge a premium price to convince people it's better.

 

 

Just throwing it out there but every company that has offered black irons charge more for them.

 

 

Do your homework...

 

My arguement is that companies such as Callaway, TaylorMade and Titleist charge a “premium” for their products for various business and marketing reasons. Premium, luxury brand could be one of them as an example.

 

Cobra does not.

 

The cost of their black finish is the same as their chrome finish. A complete set of the current model/configuration of 3-PW CB/MB (8 Irons) can be had for full retail of $1099.

 

 

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I got to hit them today and they were nice, not great but nice. The topline was a good thickness. It was really easy to hit the high shots but flighting the ball down was a bit trickier. I honestly couldn't tell if the speed foam did anything. I didn't have a Trackman with me so I can't speak to the numbers. The lines on the back are less notable then the pictures lead on. Overall they felt good with a decent amount of forgiveness.

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Based upon Rick Shiels's Review...not looking good for the P760's...

 

 

 

 

Would be interesting to see a review of a P750/P730 combo set vs. P760's. Taylormade seems to be pricing themselves out of the market with premium pricing for average performance when compared to the likes of Mizuno, Cobra, Srixon for forged player irons.

 

I would argue that the P series of irons P770 & P750 lack the premium feel which you can find in irons from Mizuno & Cobra to justify the higher and premium prices that TaylorMade is charging. Can't compare the P760's, yet; however Shields eluded to liking hitting the non-speedfoam 8-PW more???

Yeah I do find it odd how they priced the black P790s. I can hear it in the board room now...

 

"We'll paint them black and charge $300 more per set, but change nothing else!!"

 

".... ..... GENIUS!!!!"

 

I think it's more of a jerk reaction to Callaway, and how they went after PXG sales with the Rogue irons. Make something "cool" looking, market the crap out of it and charge a premium price to convince people it's better.

 

 

Just throwing it out there but every company that has offered black irons charge more for them.

 

 

Do your homework...

 

My arguement is that companies such as Callaway, TaylorMade and Titleist charge a “premium” for their products for various business and marketing reasons. Premium, luxury brand could be one of them as an example.

 

Cobra does not.

 

The cost of their black finish is the same as their chrome finish. A complete set of the current model/configuration of 3-PW CB/MB (8 Irons) can be had for full retail of $1099.

 

 

If you look at Cobra then it’s easy to realize they do this to try and stay competitive with other OEMs. They make fine clubs and I’ve gamed many and still have a couple in my bag. That said they’re looked down on by many purists and others for whatever reason. They do what they do to try and get a piece of the pie. The top tier OEMs do it because they know they can.

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Anyone who has been within the golf industry knows that manufacturers “pay-to-play” and/or “tee-up” money based upon clubs that players put into play.

 

So, the counter-arguement to you would be...why does Rory only play TaylorMade? Is it because he thinks they give him the “best” chance at winning? Or, is it because he is contractually obligated and/or gets paid a lot more from TaylorMade, if he does?

 

Anyone who has ties to the industry knows that tee up money has dried up significantly in recent years. It's nowhere close to the way it was a few years ago, and in many cases it's gone completely. Past arguments related to paying for driver counts (as an example) do not hold any longer.

 

Rory plays TaylorMade because he's contractually obligated to play TaylorMade. Why is that? Because he signed an endorsement deal with them; he chose them. Why? Presumably a combination of the equipment being good and he was well compensated for the use of his name/likeness. He certainly wasn't about to pick a company that made equipment he didn't like.

 

So yeah, he's paid to play TaylorMade, but that's where it ends. TaylorMade is not going to force Rory or another player on staff to play the P760, which is what you were implying earlier. If the irons fit they'll play them, and you can be sure that they put them in the bag because they believe they're better for their game than what they had before. I'm sure TaylorMade would love for their entire staff to put the P760 in play, but they know that's literally impossible.

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Interesting just how different Rick Shiels' reviews are of Taylormade clubs these days. Used to be one of the more sycophantic TM fanboys out there but since the P750/770s came out he's not been so positive.

 

"Another club from Taylormade..."

 

Obviously he's forgotten how many clubs Callaway, Titleist and Ping have released in the last 12 months.

 

What are people's thoughts on the non-speedfoam heads? Do they feel better than the mid/long irons? How bad is the offset on the 3&4 irons for a players club. Are they legitimate comments?

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So after watching all of the reviews, hi-res photos, YouTube videos, etc so far, I have to say the look is definitely growing on me. Personal opinion, they definitely look better to me than the P750s and P770s, no question. And when those are the 2 iron sets that you're replacing with this one, it's a net *win* for TaylorMade in my mind on looks alone. It doesn't look as good as the P790s, since for me those are the best looking irons in recent memory, but it's all relative. There's probably some room for improvement in the looks department, but hey you could say that about any supermodel out there too, lol. That's all personal preference, and it's not as important as performance IMO. One of the TM staffers will probably put these in the bag in some form - my money is on Rahm.

 

These seem like a pretty good candidate to replace my PSi's, but will definitely hit these soon and test the distance/dispersion/feel against my gamers. I'll only need them in 6-PW, so I don't have to worry about any offset issues in the long irons that Shiels mentioned (although if the offset is MORE in the 790s, I'm not sure I'd notice anyway). The 760s may be intended to eliminate the need to have a combo set, but I'll find a way to combine sets either way!

 

Side note: Shiels is probably my favorite of the YouTube reviewers, and I thought his assessment was fair, and overall very positive despite the slightly misleading title.

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I was very happy with my 770's when I first saw these online, but the more I watch the videos, the more solid these are looking. I feel like I was focused on the 'Foreman Grill' factor in the cavity but looking on the videos, and zooming out, they seem much more solid and I would be very interested to see them in person.

 

All the reviews from people who have hit them seem positive, so I take more from that than people who have seen images and immediately disregard them. I know there needs to be an element of confidence at least in the look, and my experience with the 770s is enough to keep these in the conversation.

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Yeah not gonna lie I ripped these apart when they were first uncovered but as other people are saying they’re really really really growing on me... not good for my 785 combo set....or my bank account...

 

Doesn’t help that Hollywood McShiels made these look like sex on a stick with his hi res camera

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Interesting just how different Rick Shiels' reviews are of Taylormade clubs these days. Used to be one of the more sycophantic TM fanboys out there but since the P750/770s came out he's not been so positive.

 

"Another club from Taylormade..."

 

Obviously he's forgotten how many clubs Callaway, Titleist and Ping have released in the last 12 months.

 

What are people's thoughts on the non-speedfoam heads? Do they feel better than the mid/long irons? How bad is the offset on the 3&4 irons for a players club. Are they legitimate comments?

 

The P760 has slightly more offset in the 3 and 4 than the P750, but slightly less than the P770. I don't recall hearing a single complaint about the P770 offset in the long irons, so I don't think the offset in the P760 long irons is a legitimate concern.

 

That said, I'll reserve the right to change my mind once I've seen them in person. It's possible there's something about the shaping of the head that could make the offset stand out more at address, but I have my doubts that's the case.

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Interesting just how different Rick Shiels' reviews are of Taylormade clubs these days. Used to be one of the more sycophantic TM fanboys out there but since the P750/770s came out he's not been so positive.

 

"Another club from Taylormade..."

 

Obviously he's forgotten how many clubs Callaway, Titleist and Ping have released in the last 12 months.

 

What are people's thoughts on the non-speedfoam heads? Do they feel better than the mid/long irons? How bad is the offset on the 3&4 irons for a players club. Are they legitimate comments?

 

Let's disagree, Titleist hasn't released near as many as TM.

They are firm on their release cycle which is every two years.

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Interesting just how different Rick Shiels' reviews are of Taylormade clubs these days. Used to be one of the more sycophantic TM fanboys out there but since the P750/770s came out he's not been so positive.

 

"Another club from Taylormade..."

 

Obviously he's forgotten how many clubs Callaway, Titleist and Ping have released in the last 12 months.

 

What are people's thoughts on the non-speedfoam heads? Do they feel better than the mid/long irons? How bad is the offset on the 3&4 irons for a players club. Are they legitimate comments?

 

The P760 has slightly more offset in the 3 and 4 than the P750, but slightly less than the P770. I don't recall hearing a single complaint about the P770 offset in the long irons, so I don't think the offset in the P760 long irons is a legitimate concern.

 

That said, I'll reserve the right to change my mind once I've seen them in person. It's possible there's something about the shaping of the head that could make the offset stand out more at address, but I have my doubts that's the case.

 

Yeah I didn't think the offset was severe but it was an odd thing to pick up in the review, especially when he raved about the 790's which have a bit more throughout the set.

 

Will give them a hit and see what they're like.

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Interesting just how different Rick Shiels' reviews are of Taylormade clubs these days. Used to be one of the more sycophantic TM fanboys out there but since the P750/770s came out he's not been so positive.

 

"Another club from Taylormade..."

 

Obviously he's forgotten how many clubs Callaway, Titleist and Ping have released in the last 12 months.

 

What are people's thoughts on the non-speedfoam heads? Do they feel better than the mid/long irons? How bad is the offset on the 3&4 irons for a players club. Are they legitimate comments?

 

Let's disagree, Titleist hasn't released near as many as TM.

They are firm on their release cycle which is every two years.

 

Aye 6 models at a time is much better.

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These are great irons for low caps, however I do want to warn guys that they don't feel quite as muted as the 790's and they are FAR less forgiving. Good looking iron, although with the traditional lofts I did expect less offset. If you need to bend them strong to match gaps, they start looking "off" pretty quickly. Basically they are just a really nice players cavity for good ball strikers.

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These are great irons for low caps, however I do want to warn guys that they don't feel quite as muted as the 790's and they are FAR less forgiving. Good looking iron, although with the traditional lofts I did expect less offset. If you need to bend them strong to match gaps, they start looking "off" pretty quickly. Basically they are just a really nice players cavity for good ball strikers.

 

Why on earth would you make a players iron with offset. Like making a corvette with 600hp and auto trans and 13 inch wheels . ( yes 13. So the brakes are what ?,....10 inch rotors. Lol same as ez-go).

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Does anyone know if the the P770 and 750s will be discounted when the 760s come out?

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Interesting just how different Rick Shiels' reviews are of Taylormade clubs these days. Used to be one of the more sycophantic TM fanboys out there but since the P750/770s came out he's not been so positive.

 

"Another club from Taylormade..."

 

Obviously he's forgotten how many clubs Callaway, Titleist and Ping have released in the last 12 months.

 

What are people's thoughts on the non-speedfoam heads? Do they feel better than the mid/long irons? How bad is the offset on the 3&4 irons for a players club. Are they legitimate comments?

 

The P760 has slightly more offset in the 3 and 4 than the P750, but slightly less than the P770. I don't recall hearing a single complaint about the P770 offset in the long irons, so I don't think the offset in the P760 long irons is a legitimate concern.

 

That said, I'll reserve the right to change my mind once I've seen them in person. It's possible there's something about the shaping of the head that could make the offset stand out more at address, but I have my doubts that's the case.

 

You're correct - head shape, hosel to leading edge transition, belly or no belly on the leading edge all impact the measurement of offset. You can have two players irons look the same and have the same transition from hosel to the leading edge at the heel and have totally different offsets purely because one iron has a straight leading edge and the other has a more rounded belly. Take a look at the address views of the leading players irons across the brands and then look at their offset measurements on the spec pages of their websites.

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These are great irons for low caps, however I do want to warn guys that they don't feel quite as muted as the 790's and they are FAR less forgiving. Good looking iron, although with the traditional lofts I did expect less offset. If you need to bend them strong to match gaps, they start looking "off" pretty quickly. Basically they are just a really nice players cavity for good ball strikers.

 

Why on earth would you make a players iron with offset. Like making a corvette with 600hp and auto trans and 13 inch wheels . ( yes 13. So the brakes are what ?,....10 inch rotors. Lol same as ez-go).

 

It's not a lot in the short irons at all, but say you wanted a 44 degree PW, well then it starts to become more noticeable. I personally needed to bend them 2 degrees stronger on some irons to fit my gaps and it left me some irons that didn't really suit what a I wanted to see. I personally wish they would do a true ZERO offset iron at traditional lofts.

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Toll how would you compare the 760 to the 770 for forgiveness? I think that's the real question - if you like the 790 you're probably sticking there....

 

I love the 790's and see no reason to change. Now answering your question I would say that the 760 are slightly more forgiving overall than the 770 high low, but about the same heel/toe. They are unquestionably better than the 750 for most players, which are truly an iron for the best ball strikers. The 760 however, does feel the best, excluding the 790 set.

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Toll how would you compare the 760 to the 770 for forgiveness? I think that's the real question - if you like the 790 you're probably sticking there....

 

I love the 790's and see no reason to change. Now answering your question I would say that the 760 are slightly more forgiving overall than the 770 high low, but about the same heel/toe. They are unquestionably better than the 750 for most players, which are truly an iron for the best ball strikers. The 760 however, does feel the best, excluding the 790 set.

did you tweak your 790 lofts at all?
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Toll how would you compare the 760 to the 770 for forgiveness? I think that's the real question - if you like the 790 you're probably sticking there....

 

I love the 790's and see no reason to change. Now answering your question I would say that the 760 are slightly more forgiving overall than the 770 high low, but about the same heel/toe. They are unquestionably better than the 750 for most players, which are truly an iron for the best ball strikers. The 760 however, does feel the best, excluding the 790 set.

 

I’m glad to hear that someone else really likes the 790s. I love mine as well. Not quite sure I got the right shafts but the heads have always felt amazing. I thought about mixing in the 760s 8-pw

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So after watching all of the reviews, hi-res photos, YouTube videos, etc so far, I have to say the look is definitely growing on me. Personal opinion, they definitely look better to me than the P750s and P770s, no question. And when those are the 2 iron sets that you're replacing with this one, it's a net *win* for TaylorMade in my mind on looks alone. It doesn't look as good as the P790s, since for me those are the best looking irons in recent memory, but it's all relative. There's probably some room for improvement in the looks department, but hey you could say that about any supermodel out there too, lol. That's all personal preference, and it's not as important as performance IMO. One of the TM staffers will probably put these in the bag in some form - my money is on Rahm.

 

These seem like a pretty good candidate to replace my PSi's, but will definitely hit these soon and test the distance/dispersion/feel against my gamers. I'll only need them in 6-PW, so I don't have to worry about any offset issues in the long irons that Shiels mentioned (although if the offset is MORE in the 790s, I'm not sure I'd notice anyway). The 760s may be intended to eliminate the need to have a combo set, but I'll find a way to combine sets either way!

 

Side note: Shiels is probably my favorite of the YouTube reviewers, and I thought his assessment was fair, and overall very positive despite the slightly misleading title.

 

 

I'd have to agree about the look. Initial pictures looked horrible but the more videos I have seen the better they look. Price tag is the big thing now. If TM didn't pump out new irons every year I could justify the price more.

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I dont think they look all that bad. Especially after seeing Shiels close up shots. I do however think it is odd that these would replace both the P750 and P770 but who knows what Taylormade has in the works for future releases. I was hoping to pick up a P750 4 iron, I guess I will wait until these become available before I make a decision.

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The 760 is a serious contender for my next iron set if I ever pull the plug to spend money on new irons. It’s a combo set on its own so there’s no need to combo it on your own.....less hassle I think

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Toll how would you compare the 760 to the 770 for forgiveness? I think that's the real question - if you like the 790 you're probably sticking there....

 

I love the 790's and see no reason to change. Now answering your question I would say that the 760 are slightly more forgiving overall than the 770 high low, but about the same heel/toe. They are unquestionably better than the 750 for most players, which are truly an iron for the best ball strikers. The 760 however, does feel the best, excluding the 790 set.

did you tweak your 790 lofts at all?

 

Yes. I had to go weaker in the long irons since they hit too far.

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