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... "Hook machine" with woods and "20yd flyers" with irons are the stock and trade of many WRX members. Index is irrelevant and as a + index I find the F9 pretty neutral. Perhaps a hair of a draw with my 18gm weight back and a hair of a fade with it forward, but all in all pretty neutral for me. Ymmv of course.

 

Thank you - I was just about to cancel my order...I don't need a "hook machine"! :)

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Playing this masterpiece Th. 75 degrees in January in the Blue Ridge Moutains of VA?? Are you kidding me. Water on 14 of the 18 holes so the F9 better fly true tomorrow as it's a firm test of good driving and putting if you're ever in the area this is a hidden gem!

 

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Just hit the driver. Not sure about it yet. Feel is muted. Gotta admit it looks a little shallower faced than I’d like but it was a good showing. 9 deg turned down to 8, heavy weight front, Atmos Black 6x And was getting 156-158 ball speeds, launch 15 deg, but still like 2900 spin average of about 30 swings.

Obviously I can work on my path but it’s spinning a bit more than I’d like and I don’t usually go up to the 70g weight class.

 

What's your club head speed? I have similar ball speed numbers and slightly lower launch angle (14.2) but was in the Atmos Black 7X. Just had my shop order the Atmos Black 6X and the Smoke. Have a feeling one of those 2 shafts will work a little better.

High 100s, but on GC2 today pretty sure calculated and only measuring ball flight. On TM usually 107-108. Averaged 110 at a fitting for M1 440 2 years ago and that’s pretty much my max. Wouldn’t be swinging harder on a course.

I could definely work on my path to bring my spin down.

 

The 6.0 smoke was spinning over 3000 for me. Felt less predictable than the Atmos 6x and they didn’t have a 6.5 to try apples to apples. A couple with the smoke were bombed but dispersion was left/right/left/right. Atmos kept me left of midline pretty consistently.

 

That’s how I felt with the Blue in 6s. Hit a few bombs, but kept losing it right for me (lefty). I have the Black in 6.5 in my 3W so anxious to see how the Smoke in 6.5 compares. Really need to find a shaft that turns this driver into a fairway finder.

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Ordered mine at standard and it’s actually a little under 45.5 with the arccos sensor which is great. Should be very close to 45 when I remove that or I may trim down a little more. SW is a little over D3. They are sending me an 18g weight so will be interesting to see if 18/2 makes a difference from the 14/6 setup that comes in the tour length drivers. Cobra customer service is some of the best in the biz.

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Ordered mine at standard and it's actually a little under 45.5 with the arccos sensor which is great. Should be very close to 45 when I remove that or I may trim down a little more. SW is a little over D3. They are sending me an 18g weight so will be interesting to see if 18/2 makes a difference from the 14/6 setup that comes in the tour length drivers. Cobra customer service is some of the best in the biz.

 

Tour length comes with 18/6 weights, not 14/6.

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What is the head weight of the standard F9 with the stock 14/2 weights installed ?

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What is the head weight of the standard F9 with the stock 14/2 weights installed ?

The head weight without weights or adapter is 180-183g.

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Ordered mine at standard and it's actually a little under 45.5 with the arccos sensor which is great. Should be very close to 45 when I remove that or I may trim down a little more. SW is a little over D3. They are sending me an 18g weight so will be interesting to see if 18/2 makes a difference from the 14/6 setup that comes in the tour length drivers. Cobra customer service is some of the best in the biz.

 

Tour length comes with 18/6 weights, not 14/6.

 

Ok cool, even better. Will have to grab a 6 at some point as cobra mentioned they were out of them currently.

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So I am interested in moving the heavy weight forward as that seems to be 'slightly' helping with some fade bias from what I am reading. Problem is I order the 9 degree head as I was told it is more fade biased than the 10.5. Concerned with moving the weight forward that I'll lose some launch angle and need to loft up.

 

Is it really true that there is a difference in bias in the heads? And is the Cobra, like others have mentioned other manufacturers do, actually just playing with lie angle as you go up and down? Basically I am STD setting on the 9 with the weight back. Want to try it forward and likely loft up .5 to 1 degree (dependent on numbers of course).

 

Trying it either way but hoping to gain some knowledge on what I am trying here.

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So I am interested in moving the heavy weight forward as that seems to be 'slightly' helping with some fade bias from what I am reading. Problem is I order the 9 degree head as I was told it is more fade biased than the 10.5. Concerned with moving the weight forward that I'll lose some launch angle and need to loft up.

 

Is it really true that there is a difference in bias in the heads? And is the Cobra, like others have mentioned other manufacturers do, actually just playing with lie angle as you go up and down? Basically I am STD setting on the 9 with the weight back. Want to try it forward and likely loft up .5 to 1 degree (dependent on numbers of course).

 

Trying it either way but hoping to gain some knowledge on what I am trying here.

 

In order to alter loft, manufacturers play with face angle and not lie angle as you stated. I never understood why not just design adapter to have setting to simply "bend" club strong or open without adjusting face angle, while adjusting "bounce" angle instead.

 

I don't know how Cobra does things.

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What is the head weight of the standard F9 with the stock 14/2 weights installed ?

The head weight without weights or adapter is 180-183g.

Any thoughts on F9 vs M3? I think you've had more drivers then me to try out

I really liked the m3 with its adjustability. I just couldn’t keep a head long enough after getting it dialed in before it cracked on me. Went through 3 in a matter of months.

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So I am interested in moving the heavy weight forward as that seems to be 'slightly' helping with some fade bias from what I am reading. Problem is I order the 9 degree head as I was told it is more fade biased than the 10.5. Concerned with moving the weight forward that I'll lose some launch angle and need to loft up.

 

Is it really true that there is a difference in bias in the heads? And is the Cobra, like others have mentioned other manufacturers do, actually just playing with lie angle as you go up and down? Basically I am STD setting on the 9 with the weight back. Want to try it forward and likely loft up .5 to 1 degree (dependent on numbers of course).

 

Trying it either way but hoping to gain some knowledge on what I am trying here.

 

I fight right to left ball flight. My grip is pretty strong. I play the 10.5, weight forward, and this thing is straight, as in straighter than my G400 MAX (which is straight, just favors left side). I would buy the specs you want and trust and tweak from there as you need.

 

I don't take as strong a stance as others do here - it may have been a hook machine for someone, for reasons specific to the head, the shaft, their wife yelling at them in the morning, who knows. I'm glad they posted the concern. More education is never bad - at the end of the day we all need to try stuff and see if we like it. I hate the feel of the Epic Flash. I hate the feel of the M3/4/5/6 - I adore the Cobra. Right now it's spinning about 300 higher than I'd like but going dead straight for me. I'm going to tweak the weight a little, and if necessary loft, but that's what we all have to do. I wouldn't panic about it - this is a very good driver - as are about 7 others.

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Welp the wife just told my my F9 arrived this morning.

Bad thing is that in true Texas fashion, it went from 72 yesterday to 42 today! Damn the bad luck!

 

 

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I fight right to left ball flight. My grip is pretty strong. I play the 10.5, weight forward, and this thing is straight, as in straighter than my G400 MAX (which is straight, just favors left side). I would buy the specs you want and trust and tweak from there as you need.

 

I don't take as strong a stance as others do here - it may have been a hook machine for someone, for reasons specific to the head, the shaft, their wife yelling at them in the morning, who knows. I'm glad they posted the concern. More education is never bad - at the end of the day we all need to try stuff and see if we like it. I hate the feel of the Epic Flash. I hate the feel of the M3/4/5/6 - I adore the Cobra. Right now it's spinning about 300 higher than I'd like but going dead straight for me. I'm going to tweak the weight a little, and if necessary loft, but that's what we all have to do. I wouldn't panic about it - this is a very good driver - as are about 7 others.

 

 

... Unless you are hitting an anti slice head like some of the OEM offers with extreme weighting in the heel and a closed face angle, there is no such thing as a "hook machine". There are "hook machine" golfers, but not "hook machine" heads. I used to fight a hook many years ago and there were heads I could hook off the golf course. But I could also hit them straight as an arrow. I find it a disservice to other forum members to claim a head produces 20 yard hooks or irons produce 20 yd flyers from clean lies. Iron Byron would certainly not find those attributes. While I have no doubt any individual may experience results like that, it is the golfer not the equipment. As always with a new club that is getting rave reviews, we have seen players in this thread say the F9 is draw biased and others say it is fade biased. That of course means the head is probably relatively neutral and it is the golfers that are fade or draw biased.

 

... What we can find out in threads like this is how does it sound and feel, and even then those that say the head produces a solid thwack not too dense or too explosive sounding, some will even still find either extreme because of their personal preference. We can find out of the head is a low/medium/high spin head for most as well as finding many think it is longer than average or produces a slightly higher head speed. What we won't find relative to our own individual swing, is whether or not the head is a hook machine or a slice producer.

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Well said Sam. I find this same spewed nonsense in the driversfittings I do, usually 60-75 per year. The bad results are always excused with:

 

"Have not got my swing today."

 

" My back is constrictng my turn."

 

"I can't play a Cobra or whatever". No reason given.

 

"The grip is too small" After hitting a monumental push slice.

 

It's never the player's fault.

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Any “bias” on the 9 vs the 10.5 will be due to the lie angle being flatter on the 9. Why this is, I don’t know, as I can’t remember another head with different lofts that also had different lie angles as well. If the LH adapter or some other adapter method to flatten the lie is available, I would love to incorporate some fade bias that way.

 

Edit: As was mentioned above, I find my 10.5 to be about as neutral as you can get.

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According to FedEx, my hybrid will be delivered to me tomorrow...which is when the estimated SHIP date was!

 

Anyone else have hands-on use with the hybrid?

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My fairway arrives tomorrow, prelim ship date was 2/12. Cobra is pumpin em out

 

Gotta get them before the shafts get backordered lol.

 

I'm also waiting to see if they accomodated my request for a 19g weight instead of the 15g. Hoping to have the hybrid with a swing weight closer to my irons.

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According to FedEx, my hybrid will be delivered to me tomorrow...which is when the estimated SHIP date was!

 

Anyone else have hands-on use with the hybrid?

 

I hit the hybrid yesterday. Loved it. Love the finish, sound and shape. Has me thinking of moving the trusty f7. Really want to try the fairway too but my f8 has been amazing.

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My fairway arrives tomorrow, prelim ship date was 2/12. Cobra is pumpin em out

 

Gotta get them before the shafts get backordered lol.

 

I'm also waiting to see if they accomodated my request for a 19g weight instead of the 15g. Hoping to have the hybrid with a swing weight closer to my irons.

 

I requested mine 43" and D3, so I am guessing they will add some weight given the stock SW and length

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Welp the wife just told my my F9 arrived this morning.

Bad thing is that in true Texas fashion, it went from 72 yesterday to 42 today! Damn the bad luck!

 

 

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When your wife told you did she say, “Honey, your new Cobra F9 Driver was delivered. I can’t wait for you to try it out” or did she do like my wife and say “Another $&);!? golf club arrived”?

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From reading this thread, it seems as if many of you that have ordered,are choosing the the atmos black. Is there a reason for this shaft over the tensei pro orange besides up charge price?

 

I’m debating to order one with tensei pro orange,but just was wondering if the atmos black is like the tensei, without the high up charge. But,to me 250 for the orange is pretty decent. If the shaft is as a good as everyone says that has played it.

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