Ping Blueprint forged irons- New photos added page 27

[fore_life]

3d printed foam acoustic control molds inside hollow forged heads?

 

If not boom you’re welcome ha

[bladehunter]

It’s a semi hollow head for sure. Maybe their own brand of speed foam ? But no way that toe screw dead heads into a forged wall. Would be pointless. You can swing weight with tip weights or lead tape. Just like any other blade if it’s solid.

 

Watching Louie swing these at the ned bank this weekend , they sound very much like the i500 with hot melt.

[alecfeltman]

These look super good.

[gbartko]

Spoke to guy in the know. Identical design to i500, hollow unfilled just blade size, smaller than iblade by a "C.H". Cavity will be behind the muscle so sound will be a bit better than i500. Blueprint is ping prototype name so expect i100 or something similar i110, etc. Wasn't a fan of i500 as a set, flew high with low spin and sound was mehh but they definitely looked sweet. I play Rapture DI which sounds awful but the performance is other worldly so i can accept the trade off if these are what Bubba claims them to be. Hit the P760 which at adress looks awesome, cavity not so much and the feel/sound was superb, just can't have a taylormade product in my bag. Sounds like we'll see the Ping in Spring.

 

Ah, the “ch” - my favorite unit of measure!

[Big Ben]

If these have the toe weights that are removable. Having a set built with hotmelt could be very sweet!

 

If they have a small hollow body with customizable toe weights I will have a set of these 100%!

 

Please release them in BLACK!

 

Right! I can't believe that all the manufacturers don't offer an option for black finish

 

I can. The satisfaction rate is always low with first time black iron purchasers. They don't expect the discolouration. Sweeping generalisation, but you don't want your brand perceived poorly.

 

(Edited to not sound racist out of context.)

 

Same reason it's hard to buy a raw wedge on the rack. Idiots. People actually complain that a raw wedge rusts.

 

Same for black finishes people gripe that they wear. Like they think the black is magic coating or something. People who like the black actually like that it wears.

 

To be fair, most silver-y irons don't change colour over time. As such, they have that as an expectation. Of course, that's not fair, and the only way "black" doesn't wear is if the colour is not a coating, but throughout. You're right, but those expectations come from somewhere. And like you said, raw wedges are the same.

 

Every contact is a small sandblasting, which is why a coating is always temporary, as you know. That's why they should be special order. What I'd really like to see is that there's a disclaimer sheet you have to sign, but that you can get raw or black or whatever by signing away your understanding about the characteristics.

They are producing a far more durable finish like the one Cobra is using called Diamond Black Metal. It’s about as good as you can find in a dark finish and far superior to PVD. It’s actually more durable than most platings meaning it’s not just cosmetic. The oxide finishes are defintely not going to make it very far and that should be expected. BB

[teezoid]

It's a semi hollow head for sure. Maybe their own brand of speed foam ? But no way that toe screw dead heads into a forged wall. Would be pointless. You can swing weight with tip weights or lead tape. Just like any other blade if it's solid.

 

Watching Louie swing these at the ned bank this weekend , they sound very much like the i500 with hot melt.

 

Just imagine the additional hype that would had been generated if Louie had won the tournament playing these bad boys last week! A couple bad holes or Louie would had won the tournament.

I am extremely excited to hear more about these irons and their make up. They look awesome, but the whole story is yet to be told; are they hollow? how do they feel, sound? How forgiving are they for a blade?

I love my iblades because they feel great, look great and for a blade like club, they are very forgiving. If these are anything like the iblade, I will be happy for sure.

[bunta]

It's a semi hollow head for sure. Maybe their own brand of speed foam ? But no way that toe screw dead heads into a forged wall. Would be pointless. You can swing weight with tip weights or lead tape. Just like any other blade if it's solid.

 

Watching Louie swing these at the ned bank this weekend , they sound very much like the i500 with hot melt.

 

Just imagine the additional hype that would had been generated if Louie had won the tournament playing these bad boys last week! A couple bad holes or Louie would had won the tournament.

I am extremely excited to hear more about these irons and their make up. They look awesome, but the whole story is yet to be told; are they hollow? how do they feel, sound? How forgiving are they for a blade?

I love my iblades because they feel great, look great and for a blade like club, they are very forgiving. If these are anything like the iblade, I will be happy for sure.

 

 

Wouldve been much better if Westwood switched to these and won.

 

marketing woulda been along the lines of went from better player irons to players blade with similar forgiveness to i210. And won!

[dpb5031]

I play i200s and they feel/sound really good for a cavity back. I've tried the i210s, and the feel/sound is even better...maybe even the best feeling cavity back out there. Ping (along with other OEMs) just keeps getting better at sound tuning with their elastomer inserts behind the sweetspot. Heck, even Mizuno has to go this route with their cavity designs even though they'reforged (see 900/919f).

 

This leads me to speculate that the Blueprints are hollow, but filled with Ping's latest & greatest elastomer for sound, feel, and vibration dampening. (That said, not sure why they left the 500s hollow)

[matchavez]

I play i200s and they feel/sound really good for a cavity back. I've tried the i210s, and the feel/sound is even better...maybe even the best feeling cavity back out there. Ping (along with other OEMs) just keeps getting better at sound tuning with their elastomer inserts behind the sweetspot. Heck, even Mizuno has to go this route with their cavity designs even though they'reforged (see 900/919f).

 

This leads me to speculate that the Blueprints are hollow, but filled with Ping's latest & greatest elastomer for sound, feel, and vibration dampening. (That said, not sure why they left the 500s hollow)

 

If you fill the cavity, you get less “spring”.

[dpb5031]

I play i200s and they feel/sound really good for a cavity back. I've tried the i210s, and the feel/sound is even better...maybe even the best feeling cavity back out there. Ping (along with other OEMs) just keeps getting better at sound tuning with their elastomer inserts behind the sweetspot. Heck, even Mizuno has to go this route with their cavity designs even though they'reforged (see 900/919f).

 

This leads me to speculate that the Blueprints are hollow, but filled with Ping's latest & greatest elastomer for sound, feel, and vibration dampening. (That said, not sure why they left the 500s hollow)

 

If you fill the cavity, you get less "spring".

 

I suppose that's theoretically true, but then again TM's 790s have speed foam and they're pretty hot despite not being hollow cavities. One might further imagine that distance/ball speed is not the primary objective in a design this compact.

 

Also, assuming the elastomer material is significantly lighter in weight than the steel, this would allow them to build in some significant forgiveness whilst still keeping the overall footprint quite small. It also wouldn't surprise me if they were to tell us that they're filled with their latest and greatest goop that is springier and more resilient than anything ever developed thus making them even hotter than a hollow design...lol!

[rbilramz]

I’m guessing they are only hollow enough for the screw st the end to fit inside. That gives Ping the ability to adjust swing weight in a much better location than the hosel, without producing a spring-like face.

[Zach Heusser]

And I just started to love my Tmb’s...?

[Jordan Speeth]

Doubt they are hollow other than maybe a drilled cavity for swingweighting.

 

I'm with Nesseism on this one. Weighting in the tip of the toe will have a

larger influence on swing weighting. Less weight needed to achieve greater values.

 

No way they could glue their standard weighted badge to this iron , and not

taken away from the classic aesthetics in this design.

 

I hope your right but something tells me swingweighting won't be an option on these like it has in the past. The i500's and their new forged wedges didn't allow for swingweight changes. I am still holding out hope though!

 

I’m not sure where you heard this but it’s 100% not true with the i500’s. The screw in the toe is made in various weights SPECIFICALLY for swingweighting purposes and the hollow cavity is filled with hot melt if the heavier screws alone are not sufficient to get the SW to the desired target weight.

 

I am absolutely certain these new clubs will utilize these differently weighted screws for swingweighting as well.

 

It's an odd duck I've got: I have i500s +1" w/hot melt from the factory and they came in at D7. I had spec'd D2 and, before they were built, they got back to me and said that the best they'd be able to do was D9! I gave them the go-ahead anyway because I choke up most of the time and I was eager to get them for a number of "good" reasons. My confusion comes with the hot melt. If they were trying to keep the weight down, why add hotmelt? Were they in that much of a rush that they couldn't have gone back to the bin and chosen another head? (yes, probably). I also wonder why they don't sort the heads by weight (at least light, heavy) for longer, heavier builds. So, there's one or two heads in there that throw the entire SW of the set off, requiring hot melt to balance them out. I'm hot to order these Blueprints at D0...hoping the heads are light on this one! I've discovered an affinity for lighter SW'd clubs all of a sudden. I'd never considered anything lower than D3 until recently, by accident and the results have been incredible.

[Jordan Speeth]

<<<I don’t see how you could add weight way out at the toe without changing the balance at least some.>>>

 

On the i500 the overall diameter of the hosel is larger and acts as a weight to balance the toe weight. I thought the same thing at first. It was a very resourceful move, IMO. It also serves to make the clubhead look smaller in comparison....always a good thing.

[Jordan Speeth]

I think that there's some confusion about the hot melt or goo on the interior of the i500 (I'm confused too). I'm guessing that it's only used in some cases. My i500s have it and they sound and feel pretty darned good to me for a "hollow" iron. In fact, everyone I know who's checked, also has at least some goo in the cavity. Has anyone on this thread checked the interior and found it to be hollow? I'm expecting that to be the same with these....whatever they'll be called.

 

Also, my bet is that it will be a forged body, forged face, welded together (of course) and goo if necessary for weighting. Maybe they ditched the notched hosel because they needed the extra weight. That usual notch is a pretty good sized chunk of metal missing.

[bladehunter]

My 500s are filled with hot melt too. Not empty or hollow feeling at all.

 

Going to be interesting to see what the blueprint specs are. I just can’t imagine the screw is just swing weight. Completely odd place to put it for just that. You’d think a flush mounted weight center back down low would make more sense.

[Drudersh]

I just searched the RSM Classic pics from all 3 days and didn't find a single Blueprint iron in anyone's bag with quite a few Ping staffers and independent pros playing. Theories on this? Ping playing their cards close to the vest? Very limited availability on prototype sets? Elaborate ruse?

[nfmoto]

<<<I don’t see how you could add weight way out at the toe without changing the balance at least some.>>>

 

On the i500 the overall diameter of the hosel is larger and acts as a weight to balance the toe weight. I thought the same thing at first. It was a very resourceful move, IMO. It also serves to make the clubhead look smaller in comparison....always a good thing.

 

The diameter is also larger because there is tip weight plugged in the hosel below the shaft bore. They use both that and the toe screw for SW.

[mmack067]

I just searched the RSM Classic pics from all 3 days and didn't find a single Blueprint iron in anyone's bag with quite a few Ping staffers and independent pros playing. Theories on this? Ping playing their cards close to the vest? Very limited availability on prototype sets? Elaborate ruse?

 

Very limited availability is what I've heard. I know of one player that tested them, loved them, but can't get a set to put in play.

[nfmoto]

My 500s are filled with hot melt too. Not empty or hollow feeling at all.

 

Going to be interesting to see what the blueprint specs are. I just can't imagine the screw is just swing weight. Completely odd place to put it for just that. You'd think a flush mounted weight center back down low would make more sense.

 

It's not odd if there is a weight plug in the hosel below the shaft bore (ala G700 and i500).

[braincramp52]

You gotta love the guessing game that goes on around here about new clubs coming out. I was getting a haircut the other day and the guy next to me said his uncle knew a guy who's son goes with a girl who's dad works for Ping and he said they are going to be solid forged blades. The only reason there are screws in the pics is to mess with everybody's head. :)

[bladehunter]

I just searched the RSM Classic pics from all 3 days and didn't find a single Blueprint iron in anyone's bag with quite a few Ping staffers and independent pros playing. Theories on this? Ping playing their cards close to the vest? Very limited availability on prototype sets? Elaborate ruse?

 

Very limited availability is what I've heard. I know of one player that tested them, loved them, but can't get a set to put in play.

 

Exactly true. There are a couple sets in private hands testing now. And 1-2 tour guys. That’s about it.

[beluga99]

Brandon Stone has a set in play at the Race to Dubai finale. 5-W. Looks like he kept his iBlade 3 and 4 iron.

[matchavez]

Brandon Stone has a set in play at the Race to Dubai finale. 5-W. Looks like he kept his iBlade 3 and 4 iron.

 

That looks more like retail. The numbers are corrected for even font size.

 

I think realistically, these will almost always be combo'd at the long-iron level. It's going to be a matter of cutoff.

 

Also, does that 9-iron look intentionally blurred?

[braincramp52]

Kenny Puckett usually is a wealth of information on Ping stuff. I'm surprised he hasn't chimed in.

[Circaflex]

Originally, I was extremely pleased by the details that were leaked, shortly after I was a little disappointed with the screw on the toe. However, seeing them in Stone's bag they look really slick. I am back on-board with these and if they end up coming out by summer, I'll go by Ping for a fitting and snag a set. I was dead set on going with a forged JDM, but I just like Ping as a company that much more than the rest.

 

Also, does that 9-iron look intentionally blurred?

 

It sure does, how strange. Maybe it has a toe weight, rather than the screw?!

[Hedgehog]

Just to clarify, these are not hollow.

 

Guys here who think ping would adjust SW in these new gorgeous blades with led tape are out of bounds.

[Hedgehog]

Also, does that 9-iron look intentionally blurred?

 

It sure does, how strange. Maybe it has a toe weight, rather than the screw?!

 

It's because someone took the picture with portrait mode, the camera blurred the 9i accidentally. Nothing else.

 

"Portrait mode uses the dual cameras on your iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X to create a depth-of-field effect. This lets you compose a photo that keeps your subject sharp while creating a beautifully blurred background."

[bladehunter]

Just to clarify, these are not hollow.

 

Guys here who think ping would adjust SW in these new gorgeous blades with led tape are out of bounds.

 

Not saying you’re wrong. But. Source ?

[dmarvaso]

Leadtape........I put that *%#@ on everything.